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The following is a prerecorded program for the light a fire with your host scholar and cultural commentator Dr. Michael Brown your voice for more spiritual clarity 866-34-TRUTH to get him a lot of wire and now there's your host Dr. Michael Brown CAT scan Wanda Carmichael, value 30 Jewish host village to be with you now course, that everyone thinks I'm Jewish. There are those, like the Black Hebrew Israelites cult and others that say will you're not really Jewish because you're white your Caucasian your descendent of the cause our kingdom.

That kind of nonsense and then of course you have religious Jews who say well your born Jewish but no longer Jewish because you worship that idol Jesus and you converted to Christianity. Everything is Jewish and God cite the better thing is I'm in Jesus to Sheila and in him all of these other issues male-female to Gentile slave free. All of these are transcended because our ultimate identity is found in him. Alright, I'm not getting taking calls today but I've solicited a bunch of questions on social media and we got some fascinating questions were going to get into today digging into the Scriptures. Jewish tradition all kinds of things. So sit back, enjoy the broadcast don't post now because we were ready solicited the questions that will be using for today if you'd like to be in our loop on social media.

If you not connect with us on Facebook or twitter or Instagram or YouTube. Those of the principal places will repost Discover website asked Dr. Brown.org SK DR Brown.org and you see where you can connect with us on Facebook or YouTube or twitter or Instagram. All right. Let's go over to our Twitter questions first and let's see here's a question from Jim or Elohim and Adonai names that God tells us to call him or is Yahweh his name. So why H WH without without vowels as it spelled here. His name is it okay to address him by that name right Jim, thanks for the question. Let me make clear that Elohim simply means God in Hebrew, referring to idols. Dogs with a small G referring to the one true God. God with the G Adonai means Lord with a L or my Lord with a L, but God is addressed in these ways. Just as we say all God. God help all Lord I love you Lord I worship you. So when when we use God and Lord were not using them as names but as titles of this one that we worship. He is God he is Lord. So sometimes I pour my heart.

Father father.

Sometimes I referred to him as off as I'm praying.

Sometimes I refer to address him as God, sometimes as Lord in all of this is found within the Bible. For example, one of my favorite Psalm Psalm 63 starts with the words Elohim and Lee Aalto God you are my God, so he's just being addressed as God. So by all means you can address him as God as Lord. If you feel something special. Doing it in Hebrew or Greek address chemist officer Curry's that's fine we can call it to Jesus directly. And yes, we can call out to Yahweh as Yahweh. There remains debate to this moment about the proper pronunciation of the name. I reject the arguments that it would've been pronounced originally a whole wall or Jehovah. I reject those arguments, but there are academic arguments for those there are Hebrew scholars who argue for that even though there in the very small minority. That being said, we don't know with 100% certainty that Yahweh is the right pronunciation you're certain I can say all why H WH her and he reviewed hey Volpe, cry out to God using letters right but if if Yahweh is the name that in your heart helps you identify with the Lord and use that name is helpful wonderful if it's just helpful for you to say Lord God our father Abba.

Sometimes just cry out to Jesus all of those. All of the above are fine, but don't think that unless you're using the Hebrew which are not rightly connecting with God. Don't think that for a split second. Okay, Augustine asks why Elisha the prophet cursed the houses descendents with leprosy. When God says he will not punish the children for the sins of their parents. Yet I appreciate both of these questions so far as actually all the questions posted. I really appreciate. So number one.

The law is that children are not put to death the sins of the parents under the law right so if if a man is a murderer that his children are not put to death because he's being put to death as a murderer that's under the law, and that is that is God's righteous way of dealing with humanity.

Obviously so he wants to establish that at the same time the sins of the parents are visited on the next generation and the next generation of those who refused to serve the Lord so that is each generation hardens his heart.

The judgment gets more intense the punishment, the reaping and sowing gets more intense. That being said, God might do something that does affect the descendents because of a judgment on someone sent other words, what you did so bad that there's gonna be a sign of it.

Remember that in the generations that follow. However, I truly believe if any of those subsequent generations would turn to God in repentance, God would lift the curse.

We do have examples of that in the Bible work or the house he perhaps if he sufficiently repented God by the width that the curse of future generations.

We do have examples. Example King Jack Anaya was cursed to have no children.

It we really had seven children. While in exile in Scripture indicates doesn't say explicitly but very clearly indicates that he repented and therefore the curse was reversed. Okay peep hamster, I'm not going to try to discover how you came up with that screen name peep hamster. Some scholars say you show it could have been a stonemason rather than a carpenter because the word used in the New Testament could have meant any type of craftsman would love to know your thoughts.

Yes that is possible not before I go any further, let me say this. Whether Jesus was a carpenter as he was growing up in his father's tray whether he was a stonemason. It's immaterial in terms of his work as our Savior. Right now, which is nothing that we should lose sleep over is nothing that we should look at.

So I always thought it was a carpenter and I must say that the driving void or mockingly don't know but I mean sometimes these little things can throw us right but but but but I always thought this, but I always thought that so this is not important. This is not germane as far as our salvation.

As far as our walk with God. As far as him being the perfect sacrifice for sins as far as him being the son of God. God incarnate. None of that is germane right. The question is, should the Greek word be translated. Also there is the argument that, in the land of Israel.

What subsequently became called Palestine that you did not have a lot of trees remember the cedars of Lebanon or are imported a buy side by Solomon David Solomon through Hiram in Phoenicia. They are there. They are important because you don't have these in in the land of Israel. So there's the argument that there was not sufficient wood for carpentry work, but obviously there was carpentry work that was done I was. The wood was used when it was imported and not so that there is nothing inherent that Sissy could not have been a carpenter. The Greek word yes could refer to a builder. It could refer potentially to a stonemason that that's not just some weird wacky Internet theory. It is possible, however it does seem that when reference is made to him in the this centuries that followed the memory that was preserve the understand that was preserved was that the word meant.

Carpenter, not stonemason.

So is it possible stonemason or builder for different kind possible but from the evidence we have carpenter still seems to be the best rendering of the Greek and therefore no reason to abandon that. Let's see scrolling down here. Let's go to kill. I have seen you wearing keep sometimes is your messianic Jew but is not against for man ought not to cover his head since he is the image and glory of God.

But woman is the glory of man. First Corinthians 11 seven yes so remember the high priest himself Laura miter were a particular kind of of hat so the high priest had his head covered in some way right so obviously Paul was not saying that when God gave the Torah to Israel that he was causing the high priest at the sin in the process that he was therefore guilty of offending God every moment God put that in the law obviously not the key part does not cover the head be the key post just a small That goes on the top of the head from mind to traditional Jewish person that God is above and to always walk in the fear and honor of God. Now from what we could tell in ancient Israel. The keep was not worn even in the days of Jesus it does not seem to be the norm as it became the norm in the centuries that followed. And and and not even through all of the world. It was it was it customary Jewish practice among traditional Jews course has been for some time now, but a covering the head with would be something different.

The bigger question would be if someone puts a prayer shawl on them and covers their head with a prayer shawl that's now covering your head is that somehow dishonoring that's a separate question entirely, but to keep know is not actually covering the head, it is a sign on the head to remind the man that he is walking before the Lord in heaven again to walk in the fear of God to keep his commandments. Also the question of hair length comes into play, which is another subject entirely and not one that we just focusing on their leaders Thursday, but in short note when you keep is not a violation of first Corinthians 11 and the high priest himself, wore a keep friends.

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The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown calls but trust that these answers to these questions will be edify uplifting and encouraging all right. Let's go to poss shalom were still on twitter will go over Facebook little while. Again, these are questions that were previously posted, so no need to depose the questions now. Have you read, studied the books removed by Martin Luther.

For example, Enoch Borough jubilees or the church do away with the appointed time to start mixing with pagan holidays. Are you basing a three separate issues here 1 Martin Luther did not remove these books, Martin Luther did not remove Enoch. Enoch was not part of the canon of Scripture, even in the Catholic Church.

Enoch is only part of the because the canon of Scripture in the Ethiopian church so and not not all of it, but in the historic Ethiopian church so Enoch was was not part of the Jewish canon or part of the Christian canon through history, Martin Luther did not remove it above her room is different than jubilees right so these are these are disparate books some Apocrypha someone called Sue So these are these are disparate books.

Not all in the same class. Martin Luther did not remove them rather the Protestant reformers went back to what they understood to be the early Jewish canon of Scripture with the Old Testament books being what we have is the Old Testament and the New Testament books being what we have is the New Testament, and no other books Catholic Church.

Other branches included the so-called apocryphal books reformers at first had them printed in the Bible in between old and New Testament, but it was understood. These are not for doctrine. These are authoritative but they're edifying and you should read them, but for example Enoch was never part of that is first. The second thing the church didn't so much. Do away with the appointed times is develop new ongoing traditions.

What I mean is that nowhere in the New Testament were Gentile Christians as a whole commanded to keep the Torah calendar. This was something that God gave to Israel.

This is something that has eternal significance in terms of the history tells and how it points to Yeshua but God did not command the first Gentile believers to keep the biblical calendar that those of them that came to faith in the synagogue, they were God.

Fear is like some of the Corinthians, they they learned about the God of Israel there but they didn't convert to Judaism and they heard the gospel, they became believers and and now they they understood the Jewish heritage better. They may have been more inclined to keep the biblical calendar, but otherwise you deal with the Gentile world in which there was no seventh day Sabbath so you were just working on on the seventh day, that was not a day of rest be like it was in the Jewish community and from what we can tell in the.

The early church documents for centuries. They were not following the biblical calendar, nor did God tell them to. They were not keeping the seventh day Sabbath. They were not following explicitly Jewish calendar. Rather, they were now celebrating the death and resurrection of Jesus around the time of the Passover that was now the new and greater emphasis. And as for those Jewish believers that were keeping the biblical calendar. They were looked at. Oddly, like what is going on here will why you doing that sometimes they were excluded.

Now I don't mean that was the right thing. Of course it was terribly wrong to exclude them and not to recognize it is Jews. There was still called to be Jews.

However there is no evidence that that the Gentile Christians were all following the biblical calendar than abandonment know they were never commanded to.

As for mixing with pagan holidays. That's really a debate. For example, Christmas is celebrated on December 25 or the birth of Jesus. Why was that done. Some argue and even in the early church that he was born December 25. Of course there are strong arguments against that but that the other argument as it was a pagan holiday was a celebration of the sun god was a pagan holiday but so many Gentile so many pagans so many idolaters were coming to faith in Jesus that now this was redeem the day. Why should belong to it everyday belongs to God. Why should that they be idolatrous.

The celebration known as celebration of some false deity. Let's make it a day to celebrate the birth of Jesus, so did things become more pagan in certain ways over the centuries, yes, was a more compromise over the centuries, yes, but the idea of the church developing traditions and seniors.

We want to celebrate the Lord. There is nothing wrong with that as long as the traditions themselves, not sinful or wrong for taking people away from the one true God. So I'd encourage you to restudy some of those issues as it seems you've taken in some information from some brought Internet arguments.

It's not really a scholastic and accurate Jason thoughts on the two powers in heaven. So this is both the concept and the title of a book by Alan Siegel. The concept is that in early Judaism, even though it was strictly monotheistic.

There was a recognition of two powers in heaven. Even if there is the greatest power. The power of God himself. There was a lesser power that was divine as well. Of course, in saying this, I'm oversimplifying things. What's my own view on it. I try to revisit that recently I tried to think about it again in light of interaction I've had with counter missionaries really seek to downplay that the question is one. To what extent was this a matter of of a wrong concept and idolatrous concept that the.

The early Jewish leaders rejected. Another question is to what extent was it a parallel that points to Jesus, Yeshua and other words that the Judaism was ready to have the concept of two powers so the father, God the Lord the Messiah that that concept could rise out of that.

My own view is that certainly that there were these different exalted beings made in exalted angel or an exalted person like Mulkey said act that becomes like an exalted almost deified messianic figure. They certainly existed. To what extent were they part of what became rabbinic Judaism that can be debated, but certainly at the time of issue in these types of concepts were known and were there to what extent did that prepare the way for the coming of a divine Messiah for the Word becoming flesh, that's more debatable to me because it one way or another. These parallels only go so far that it is a complex academic discussion and again I've of gotten into it more recently with one common missionary rabbi. In particular, he's really been studying these issues, and studying with the New Testament says in challenging some of our common assumptions but I don't believe that even if the concept of two powers of heaven was more widespread than traditional Jews might want to acknowledge and in certain ways pave the way for the messianic understanding still with the New Testament teaches in my view goes beyond that, the Lord, this is a pointer in a certain direction, but Yeshua being the Word made flesh goes even further than that. So perhaps useful background, useful conceptual background but not the ultimate parallel that some would point you to say this is kind of a a forerunner of the idea of a divine Messiah. So those are my views but I'm trying to revisit this as time permits.

Let's see another for mucky okay terrible will due to from official religious Jews pray towards Jerusalem is Daniel and Solomon did in the tomahawk when we Christians follow it. Is there any command in the Bible regarding the direction of prayer for the Jewish people.

Yes, that was a directive, or at least an example that was set.

Daniel did from exile, but that would go back to Solomon's prayer in first Chronicles the eighth chapter where he speaks about praying towards this temple.

If we are in exile, so it is become Jewish tradition over the centuries that synagogues would face Jerusalem that you would turn where you were if you're in a different location that you would turn towards Jerusalem to pray. So this remains the custom among traditional Jews all around the world to this day still wanted Christians do it will because Christians are not looking at God in that localized way, we believe that Jesus will return to Jerusalem and set up his kingdom there nonetheless John for as Jesus is dealing with the Samaritan woman. He tells her that the hour is coming, that the worship is not going to be limited to Jerusalem or or this mountain where the Samaritans were shipped right, but rather the fathers looking for worshipers will worship him in spirit and in truth. So based on that we do not point in a specific direction to present us into, but there's not a need to decide a theological reason to. There's not a benefit gained by our whole idea is not next year in Jerusalem. Looking forward to being together in the land.

That's not the whole goal.

That's not the whole purpose so we don't pray towards Jerusalem is not given the command to do, especially in the New Testament Way and based on Yeshua's words in John four. There is no specific reason to do so or need to do so and let's see Mike's question. I will will get to this. On the other side of the break then will switch over to Facebook we see Dr. Brown, I'm not able to call and and I miss when you're asking for questions on on social media, but constant difficult Jewish questions on sharing the gospel with a Jewish friend, lots of questions, remember to go to real Messiah.com the a lot of answers that you can also write to us. We have a team member that works with faith and answering questions are theological questions for the scholar Tina helps with it, so feel free to contact us for a website called because of social media shows the fast background. The line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown clearly to have time now I'm answering some you really excellent questions that have been posted on our twitter and Facebook accounts are not connected to me in either those if you're on Twitter, I am at DR Michael L Brown for the two wells that are DR Michael L.

Brown it's really me on twitter. You and I don't have the blue dot or arrow or whatever Facebook asked Dr. Brown a SK DR Brown on Facebook save on YouTube as her channel a SK DR Brown Instagram Dr. Michael Brown but Noel in the middle of that right so back to twitter questions.

This is from Mike. Not sure if this quite qualifies, but only if you can give your best hypothesis about the dating of the book of Joel thanks love your work. Appreciate that Mike I don't know when Joel was written and I have remained agnostic. There are late dates for Joel and early dates for Joel Mike, as you would know by answer it by asking your question, the fact that we have in the order of the minor prophets Hosea Joel Amos Obadiah Jonah Micah goes on from there. In the new UN with Haggai, Zechariah, Malachi, so you and with postexilic prophecies Malachi being say a century after the return from exile suits is clearly getting later and later in in in dates coming closer and closer to New Testament times. You start with Hosea. Actually, Amos would would be clearly the oldest book Hosea contemporary of Isaiah knows all the contemporary of Isaiah Amos before that.

Then Joel is put there as if Joe's early. Joel just doesn't give us specific dates so it's it's been looked at us as preexilic as a couple centuries before the exile even even a time of the Syrian exile or postexilic and because I'm not a Joel scholar.

I've never done a commentary on Joel. I've never done extended teachings on Joel tone of the minor prophets decades ago.

Of course, taught Old Testament survey many times in the earlier days, but I've never focused on it so I don't have an opinion about the dating of Joe.

I read it in a way that is more timeless and less applicable to different situations in Israel's history. Sorry disappoint, but I do not have a viewpoint on that Scott, James, four, five, first with his 53 says according to Scriptures, but I can find is quoted and were in the Old Testament. The question is was a common trend toward Scripture without a direct quote interpret Scripture undercoat and is there a certain way the Jewsinterpret Scripture. First, prescriptions three, 415 three does not say. According to Scripture, but Scriptures that Paul is referring to several verses and concepts in the Old Testament. I have a whole video on that are rebutting County missionary Rabbi Tobia Singer.

So go to start your Brown.org or YouTube channel.*Brown and search for the word phantom was Paul quoting a phantom Scripture and you'll see the verses that he was referring to and the concepts that he was referring to about the Messiah rising on the third day is actually a rich background from the Hebrew Bible from the Old Testament to the quote is for James 45.

There is really a lot of debate about it. So if if we do is we often do on the air because this is easy to do regarding net Bible.org we go to James Jacob in the Greek right. Chapter 4 and we go to verse five. Do a reverse diversified you think the Scripture means nothing when it says the spirit of God caused God caused to live within us as an envious yearning and then of the question is what is he referring to and let's just see how much discussion there is here in any see the okay doesn't doesn't get into that as much as I thought I might hear this except to say no Old Testament versus worded exactly this way. This is either a statement about the general teaching of Scripture or quotation from an ancient translation of the Hebrew text that no longer exist today. So that's how the NET summarizes it end. In short Scriptures being quoted. The authors meant Scripture. Either it's it's a translation that we don't have a particular verse or it's a concept that they are paraphrasing, but they do mean Scripture when they do refer to it in first with his 15 is referring to multiple Scriptures doing is mines clothing of the Obadiah alliance said the Igbo are descendents of ancient Israelites are the descendents of the Igbo victims of the transatlantic slave trade Israelites also some it I believe. I believe that some of the Igbo that were were kidnapped and enslaved would have been descendents of ancient Israelites, or married into the Jewish people through conversion so that's why there are traditions that have been preserved from African slaves that just became part of the African-American population of America that their roots go back to the Asian tribes, and in some cases it seems to be accurate.

Caleb discussing philosophy and across the Moses went to the bosom of Abraham and because Moses and Elijah. Through issue on the amount of the Jewish question per say, but has the text rendered us.

The Bible doesn't tell us directly. As of this and tell us Enoch. Genesis 524 walk with God.

He was knocked out took him Elijah second Kings to sicken up to heaven in a chair to find the whirlwind.

Moses God buries in Deuteronomy 34 women aware and in then as you rightly said Moses and Elijah appear with Jesus.

The amount of transfiguration in in in Matthew 17 Mark nine and Luke nine, but it doesn't say her and was Abraham's bosom a specific place, referring to paradise before the cross and resurrection is the place where the righteous deadlines and then when the Messiah died and rose he brought them to heaven. Those are all speculative questions. We do not have specific data in the Bible to give in the definitive answer. Or were these righteous ones all immediately taken to God's heavenly presence is still waiting for a final cleansing of the heavenly's by the blood Messiah. These are debatable issues, but the Bible does not speak to directly so Iris also the really dogmatic about farm but they don't have the ability to be democratic based on Scripture right can be dogmatic trust, ma'am.

Where there's debate and it's hard to come to a final conclusion.

I try to leave it there all right. Let's go over to Facebook start with Jeff. Here's one Genesis 12 three addressing Abraham. It says in you all the founders of the earth will be blessed. I've often heard believers use as an encouragement for world missions but I was wondering about its use as messianic prophecy, but the women pointed their with the Messiah had to come before the destruction of the second Temple. She was the likely candidate with their people from all the founders of the earth who believe in him and have a relationship with God through him, we see that is the fulfillment of the promise in Genesis 12 three Howard County missionary view that versus being fulfilled is not an issue with thanks. Yet Jeff updates is very fair question number one in of itself is not a calling to world missions because hand-in-hand with world missions because God's people take the message of Abraham see the Messiah to the entire world. That's not the primary purpose of that passage.

It is a promise to Abram it's it's reiterated subsequently through Isaac, Jacob and Balin to Israel's as a whole that the blessing would come to those that bless Israel and Chris would come to those that that revile Israel but the specific blessing, promise a traditional Jew would say yes this is happening. The Jewish influence in the world continues to be positive and is through Jewish influence and the law of Moses and the prophets that much good has come to the world is even influence world religions assert in positive ways and they would take some of the verbs in a reflexive way that all the nations would bless themselves saying old, may we be like Abraham see like the people of Israel and this will ultimately happen through the Messiah. We of course use the argument you're using. I agree with God's intention was to bless the nations of the earth through Abraham's seed ultimately meaning through the Messiah, and thus there are hundreds of millions of people around the world to worship and love and serve the God of Israel through this Jesus issue it yes this is further evidence of his messianic claim.

So I agree with where you're going with this. Let's see McKay looks like a really bright only Kylie Malik in the Shema, Deuteronomy 64 we see that there is one Yahweh, and other books above we see that there is only one who is Yahweh is God is the name of God the sociality name of the father showing that we have two Yahweh's and if the name of one of them isn't Yahweh that we have good God is and Yahweh. Thank you for a rabbinical Jew in Jerusalem. Thank you so much for asking that that great question so limit. Let me ask you this question. What do you do with Genesis 1924 where it says by the 19th. Tear off Saddam fell on Moraga Street for Ishmael Doug and I mean Hashemi that the Lord rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur's fire from the Lord out of heaven. So you have okay rained upon Sodom and Gomorrah sulfur's fire from Yahweh from you have of a out of heaven that you can see with them far she was there with the rabbinic interpreters similar energy always or is it Yahweh in heaven Yahweh on the earth because if you look at Genesis 18. Certain verse want to read to the end of into Genesis 19 one skillet. Yahweh appears with two Bala came to angels.

They all look like men and Yahweh stays and is an extended conversation with Abraham was not in heaven at the same time course he was, but is on the earth.

You talk with Abraham, what is done he leaves an image of Malik encompasses the Saddam to Sodom, so there is one Yahweh, one God who is father son and Spirit, he can be here on earth and heaven.

At the same time because he's God we say the Shema slice rail denial Heino than I thought were proclaiming that there are not multiple Yahweh's in different cities like the different ballgame the different balls but there's one Yahweh and only one we worship him alone him as Todd him alone this.

Another aspect of of Exxon right and see what I think even as a rush from Sam's Shema as well. But the point is he is and so if you close universe so you can be Yahweh on the earth.

Yahweh in heaven Yahweh father-son and Spirit because he is transcendent and infinite test site because voice is sweet here this morning that Yahweh on earth way down the slide right on something more going heaven.

Thank you for the question. I'm so glad that you are asking the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown got on the line of fire by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown. I mean maybe like the big thing with hundreds of thousands of religious Jews in Israel are secretly watching herself but a few years back in one of her Israel trips are traditional Jewish young man came up to me the old city of Jerusalem.

Dr. Brown I carefully review.

We want your debates with my friends and I knew traditional view, the more he talks about was raised in a Christian almost every Christian. He said, but you have been sitting here in Jerusalem is ultra-Orthodox us and your friends is your ultra-Orthodox also me and we we watch your debates together. He came back later. One of the picture with me so they believe he actually was with me.

I said hey man, you keep studying, keep searching.

Keep praying, go to work in your heart so so glad to have folks that interact with us in social media who differ in economic I let me encourage you to visit our real Messiah website.

Real Messiah.com. If you haven't gone there check out a lot of the materials that are there. All right pallets Jonathan Dr. Brown what did Jesus mean when he said this did Abraham know Jesus was coming to earth does that mean Abraham knew Jesus before his incarnation with us.

Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day and he saw it and was glad Johnny 56 was a very interesting question.

It could mean that God gave Abraham a revelation of Yeshua in some way and that he foresaw aspects of the Messiah and rejoiced in it. It could mean simply that he believed the promise that was given to him as Galatians 3 indicated that through his see the whole earth would be blessed. We just talked about that in the previous segment and in seeing that in recognizing that in believing that he saw his day. Some would say it was foreshadowed in the arcade the buying of Isaac. He was given insight that this was just like the Messiah who would be given to the point of death, and delivered from death as good as dead, and yet delivered from death so it could be any of those those of the three principal possibilities that present themselves. Some outright additional revelation be almost written Scripture or the binding of Isaac and how that foreshadow the Messiah or the promise to bless the world through his see the old, was given revelation would be the Messiah. Genesis 18 the Lord coming to him is that was referring to I and I don't think I'm think that's what's in mind it's not impossible, but I think so, Sandy, the last 3 foot fall feast days yet to be fulfilled by the Messiah.

Second coming is that since his return is the feast is like the spring feast or a pattern time, unto the day and hour cannot be moved around to fit doctrine is separated by time other than was given.

So in other words, since Jesus died at the time of Passover and and rises at the time of firstfruits in the Holy Spirit is given at the time of shovel, Pentecost said indicate that Jesus will come back literally on your own true law. The day the setting of the trouble which is become Roche rush and so the first day of the seventh month, in which case we would know the day or the hour that the idea that Russian always known her or him to always known in the Jewish world is the time when no one knows the day or the hour because it was the first day of the month. He had a verify that by the moon, etc. that's it's an Internet myth is no rabbinic text entry been a text that says it was known as the time and I knew the day the hour so the fact that Jesus tells us that would tell me that he's not coming on that precise date the book 88 reasons why Jesus is coming in 1988 argue that he be coming on September 12, 1988 because that was Russia for volume true law on that year, but because it says we don't know the day the hour. I look at these as as types as patterns and of course we know is coming with the sound of the trumpet Matthew 24 verse this loan is for first Corinthians 15. Revelation 11 the seventh of seven trumpets is the kingdom of God coming on the earth but I don't look at a specific day because again, that's contrary to what he said so it's a question many master course. But I can see that it has to be on that specific day of the first day of the seventh month of the biblical calendar terms of his return Matthew. I wonder what your opinion is regarding Ezekiel's wheel. You think he saw what is its meaning. I don't know.

I don't know where where the Bible doesn't give me more information on the meaning of the wheel.

It's a glorious vision.

It's a mystical vision. There is a whole branch of rabbinic mystical literature called America of all literatures because chariot Ezekiel's chariot vision in Jewish mysticism and all kinds of interesting Christian teachings from it. But this much is that was a UFO was a UFO, but somehow was the way that the chariot moved and hence the wheels on the chariot and with these angelic beings in the midst of it, but beyond that, what's the meaning beyond the chariot wheel.

I don't know I'm in love is the Bible tells us Andrew was pretty risen Jesus come back in A.D. 70. Everything got fulfilled in A.D. 70, printer, tourism says that all or many of the New Testament prophecies have already been fulfilled a partial credit risk, says there is still future prophecies that will be fulfilled at the end of this age and we go to the new heavens and the new earth, but that Jesus came in the year A.D. 70, and many of the major New Testament prophecy separated and felt a full printer is says we are now living in the new heavens and the earth. Yeah John, that that Jesus is a ready returned and that there is no physical resurrection, Holy Spirit resurrection, so, so full printer is it was really dangerous and some saving crosses the line of heresy because it denies the future resurrection and future second coming of partial plagiarism I believe is very wrong. Biblically and you can check out my recent mini debate with Gary tomorrow. Matthew 24. This is a regular debate, but that many debate on Matthew 24 and have all the events there already been fulfilled. It it is so clear that when Jesus comes with the sound of the trumpet, which is what spoke of in Matthew 24 that we will be caught up to meet him to get in their first facilities for as well that will be change that will receive our resurrected bodies are a much of a preacher raptor but when he appears for the world to see were caught up with them.

We dissent together with him that that he makes clear the end of the age of which he speaks in. In Matthew 24, which was in Matthew 13 Matthew 28. This is not speaking of the destruction of Jerusalem in the year 70, but rather the end of this age when he comes to the earth. Second Thessalonians 1 destroys the wicked second Thessalonians 2 destroys the Antichrist with the fire of his presence establishes his kingdom on earth.

Those things have not yet happened. No no no, Jesus did not return in the year 70.

Was it an aspect of the coming of God in judgment you had that many times in the Old Testament many times through through history. Since then God coming in judgment is that the coming of the Lord that spoke of in Matthew 24 categorically no Dell as a follower of Christ is just more of an observation and a question seems many Orthodox are practicing Jews, but this tastefully is us charismatic Christians indulge in record the scarce manifestations in the spirit in the context of the battle against the enemy or revival restoration is a real test but I find it very strange and crazy accounts of the very thing dreams reasons prophesy the shofar's proclamation singing, dancing, praising, etc. example 1st symbol 19 second Chronicles 2037, your thoughts, you Dell traditional Jews don't know much about charismatics, traditional Jews, and I think about charismatics, the ones I think I charismatics more our cessation as Christians and worldly people don't know the Lord and see some of our practices of the traditional Jews there not there not thinking much about charismatic Christians. They probably don't know much about them. Don't know much about our practices progressively right to say there are many unusual things recorded in the Hebrew Scriptures and woods should surprise us of some of those unusual things happen today. David and Moses came back to Israel city. She was the Messiah with signs and wonders like you work in each of honey think the Jews in his report response, but that's a pretty massive if right if they could know that this is actually Moses back from the dead and indisputable ways, and it was recognized by the rabbinic community amended this. There's a prophecy that can happen. Elijah be one thing.

But if it was verified by the rabbinic leaders as one that the major rabbinic leader said yes this is generally Moses that he began to work, signs and wonders and then said she was the Messiah by NAF like that would be pretty massive okay and you imagine that many would believe it. Others would just say false prophet.

Deuteronomy 13 telling us to follow other gods, but the if is is an atheist is the creation.

So we have to just go by current reality, and of §7 the Lord. The prophet Nathan advises David to build a house for us in the Lord is with you gladly reveal that they would not build it all. That's because Nathan on his own said you go do it, go for in the year were from the Lord. The Lord said no, you're not the one to do it.

Jeremiah 2230. Jeremiah prophesied that none of your hurricanes offspring would succeed in sitting on the throne of David and second Kings 24 six recoded successes as many Old Testament prophecies follow no means that he repented he repented he doesn't have a successor in and second Kings 24 six but later on his his grandsons Ruben fell becomes the, the leader in Jerusalem at the king but the governor is an indication that Jake and I repented we Jeremiah 52 from where you have anything you can buy the same same person as Tonya so re-that Jeremiah 52 and you see how he gets lifted up at the end of his life. It's an indication that he repented Reed Haggai to this another indication of similar language used Jeremiah 20 Jesus is not valid abilities this matter. The first place is so more and then causes a prophecy in Jeremiah, God repented and got the first curse.

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