How Does Old Testament Theology Relate to New Testament Believers?

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network so how do we apply the Old Testament to today. Are we still under the curses of the law. If we disobey stock for the line of fire with your host activist all the international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of Ministry of the line of fire valves by calling 866-34-TRUTH's 866-34-TRUTH Bureau Jacob is Dr. Michael Brown for joining us on this really Jewish Thursday for those watching. I'll explain in a second welcome welcome to the broadcast 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 87884.

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It could be about messianic prophecy Jewish background to the Old Testament or to the New Testament interpretation of specific issues relating to the Hebrew Bible. Any question that Judaism any Jewish related question 866-34-TRUTH 87884 will get to as many as we can dive into really interesting questions about things in the Old Testament how God describes himself has applied his dealings with us in the New Testament or the way God dealt with Israel has applied to us today as new covenant believers so I want to tackle that with you and tomorrow is really special broadcast 50 years in the Lord. 50 years since the Lord set me free from drugs and and when I came to that point of surrender. I had I begun to believe there was something was going on. God can give you the exact moment of transition of my life. But what I know that I know when I became fully aware I passed from death to life when I know that I knew that I surrendered to the Lord and the guilt was gone. It was December 17, 1971. So tomorrow's broadcast. We glorify the Lord specially and I will be answering questions that have been asked about my journey and things learned and experienced over district years. Also be sure to check my website instructor Brown.org will have a special article posted there celebrating the amazing grace of my life over these 50 years and there's a request that that were putting out on everything tomorrow Facebook post things like that and is simply this, if we been a blessing to if our ministry be at this radio broadcast, be it books, articles, preaching service if we been a real blessing to over the years, some for decades, some in recent months. Would you take a moment to send us your story as it relates to us how we were helping our ministry was of help to you. You just sit right to info asked her to Brown.org info@skyourbrown.org and just to put the subject testimony and specifically as it relates to how we been a blessing to it. It'll bring great encouragement to our team is something we look back at I often pray over these things when we want to reach more people and we hear from you that we were able to help you in this way or this where this way it builds our faith to help more people so if we been a blessing.

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So we absolutely need broadcasting and and we start the new year. The first broadcast of the new year. There will be a completely different look for those who are watching and there will be some other surprises for everyone listening so that's all I can say get ready to start us and for those watching. I'll explain. I thought we had fun holiday office party yesterday when these things exchange gifts and did so anyway, I ended up with this it's it's like a neck and shoulder massage not massage like a warmer thing is pretty law slick. All very therapeutic and by God's grace I have sore muscles less. I do really really intense work. I I I don't have body ache. I am healthy and strong that no medicines some thriving, but you often just doing things the way I do, or readings certainly are writing to computer to your index. Just get a little tight so have this right on SOL. Our team said look, all of the look is can be changing in and in the days ahead. So why not just leave it on. So for those watching. Here we are all right before we take your calls list Galatians chapter 3 Galatians chapter 3 and and look at what Paul writes there and I get a read from the tree of life version for all who rely on the deeds of Torah of the stress it works of the law or under a curse for the Scripture say cursed is everyone who does not keep doing everything written in the school of the tour this from Deuteronomy 27 so there is a curse for disobedience is clear that no one is set right before God justified before God by Torah for the righteous shall live by.

And we know the righteous shall, by faith, by faithful, depending on God and in looking at him and walking with him. That's how we live so yes, as it is a Jew in the first century we do because you believe God you obey God, right but you are not saved by your obedience because everybody ultimately fall short so if you would be justified by your works. You fall short so we we become in coming to right relationship with God by faith.

And then the works are the fruit and the proof of our faith. However, Corolla is not based on trust and faithfulness.

On the contrary, the one who does these things shall live by them.

Leviticus 18. So Paul same to these Galatian Christians you've you fall into the slide that you have to be circumcised and obey the law of Moses in order to be saved, but the laws of the faith, the laws about obedience, so our obedience is the fruit of faith but just obeying is not to do it.

You will fall short. Messiah liberated us from Tauris curse, having become a curse for us, for it is written, cursed is everyone who hangs on a tree in order that through Messiah Yeshua the blessing of Abraham might come to the Gentiles, that we might receive the promise of the roof.

The promise of the Spirit by faith right so Paul according from Deuteronomy 21 says that massage become a curse for us because this cursed is everyone who it is hung on a tree. Okay, step back from the text. There we understand the nature of the curse that if the sum was executed. The unit leave them hanging on the tree overnight and that was a cursed state so Paul Singh hate Messiah took the curse for us. There was a curse for disobedience.

You ran a cursed state hanging on the tree. He took the curse for us now. It doesn't mean that were free to murder. Frequent adultery free steel free to worship idols that were free to serve God. We have been saved from sin to obedience.

But the curses that were there for disobedience or unknot there now, meaning that under Israelite law.

If the nation disobeyed that they would come under the horrific curses in Deuteronomy 28 versus 15 and on and then in Leviticus 2612 one I've read them going through the word read them at almost always get second to my stomach because of the devastating horrific nature of the curses. We are not under that we are under new and better covenant and and it it's said even a corporate thing with the whole church does this the whole church is blessed of the whole church, the other the whole church is cursed just because we are reasonably reschedule all around the world and the body is multifaceted the body the body and in India. Maybe in one city may be healthy in another city in America be unhealthy. So what were not under that corporate curse that Israel is on and Messiah has taken a curse for us. However, if we individually reject God's grace, scorning his grace walk away from it repudiated seller sent.

I'll do whatever the world I want to do and I've got nothing to do whatsoever with this Jesus anymore.

Heber says there's a far worse punishment, waiting for us. He was 10 says if if those who died in the Moses law were put to the truth through witnesses was worse. As can be for someone that that was washed clean by the blood of Messiah paraphrase words and now goes out continues to willfully sin and rejection and and and scores across tramples underfoot the blood of the son of God said he was 12.

If if if they were judge like this reject the earthly voice. How much more will be really rejected for we suffer for taking a heavenly force so with ultimate apostasy.

Yes, there's worse judgment, more severe judgment but for a believer seeking to follow. No we are not under the curses of law as it will Reclaim the blessings woe to the extent that they apply right through new covenant living.

Yes as many promises as God is made, they are yes and amen in the Messiah, but for us to be the head and not the tail, we may be persecuted pulse of the apostles were were put last right. We may be persecuted. Hated in this world, but will be at the highest level it in God's sight. We may not be the head in our society, but in God's I will be at the highest level and then forever be exalted in him, but we we do not live in such a way of oh no oh no longer come under the curse of disobedience. Although no Messiah took the curse for us. He took our place.

Do we reap what we sow if a site shared in an you to chat a few minutes ago. I am a a gambling heavy drinking glutton will I reap what I so yes, bring destruction on the poster ministry.

It would destroy the ministry that simply reaping what I so that is not God bringing curses for disobedience is reaping what I so but no we are not under the curse of the law and the same. We are not living by the law to seek to be justified by the law that little later in the broadcast want to revisit this question and say, well, Satan had access to Job in the Old Testament deceive access to us today as out more talk about this.

How by this Bible is our situation today; compassion father is super health care on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution of your exam is Dr. Michael Brown was in his book thoroughly Jewish Thursday, this is Michael Brown delighted to be with you so excited to be alive in the Lord so excited to be his child.

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Your support anti-Jewish related questions, 8663. Foray 7884 and we will start with gone in Germany. Thank you so much for calling the line of fire… Having me, I have a question regarding to Christians… I would like to them of vitamin E and Chris and I love that you try it so I'm not from a strange background, but I would like to ask if I don't get on Molokai Justice in Europe today, which was to be very Christian but now it totally of the Christian faith. If I do get some movement protecting so that you meant to all you silly like that state budget is among boxes and they'll not fit in a Gemini like Donald Hawkeye mullah postmodernism, like the French for the look of my lethargy was so much I have my fifth seems to me a bit that they often at present, the forefront of the very j2 mentor movement not at my fifth that I mean why have they been the case in the Old Testament, which will read and why is there something them.

The threat maybe then looking for replacement Messiah. Okay them outside income that created one of Palisade of what do you think about this is the very first question and every appropriate question. I don't believe that in most cases there is a consciousness of will. Messiah hasn't come, let's create a messianic role, but I believe it's more fundamental and subtle than that.

I believe there is unique calling on the Jewish people to be world changers to be a light to the world to make God known to the world and in that sense we are cultural revolutionaries either going against the idolatry of a culture and proclaiming.

There is only one true God or going against the sin of a culture and saying these are the standards of of a holy God. So in that sense would be cultural transformers and reformers.

If we are rightly plugged into God. So the words of Moses the words of the prophets, the words of the Jewish Messiah Jesus the words of the apostles. They continue to impact the world's only get things right. We have this extraordinary power.

However, because of our calling. We are called to be world changes when we get things wrong. Then we become the Carl Marxists of the world war.

In one of the most influential rich businessmen in America, George Soros or his Hungarian pronunciation sure Roche so he's a philanthropist giving masses about the money but it's almost always to cause as we consider radical left or if you look at that the most aggressive groups like the SPLC Southern poverty Law Center, which is an aggressive leftist group or the at the ACLU, which is the most active legal group advocating for causes.

They are largely led by liberal Jews and they are on the opposite of pro-life issues, profamily issues there in the exact opposite is there was a major German scientist or whatever you would be called that that has a lot of the sexual theory and and that that they pave the way for the sexual revolution even though the leaders of the sexual revolution in America were Gentiles.

Some of the ideological paving was a German Jew or Sir Sigmund Freud, how was the hat.

The scientific discoveries at Albert Einstein or if you look in Pulitzer prizes for the of excuse me Nobel Prize sorry Nobel Prize winners in chemistry and this and that breakthrough discoveries one after another disproportionately it's Jews so I've talked about this for years. As of looked at it that we are called to be world changers and we get things right. We have incredible impact. We get things wrong. We have a terrible impact and and to whom much is given much is required of you know, it's again you can have a gift and can be used for good or for bad, because proportionately were a tiny percentage of US population was at .05% of the of the world's population and often we been press down and rejected and persecuted, so we are preserved by God's grace as Jews, we can have this impact now would be re-continued to pray for them and demanded that that meant that they get it right and get connected not just being blown up, not just being reported not just being exaggerated, but really, many Christians are leaving the faith. Many are losing their faith. Many are in church questioning their faith. Others have dropped out entirely. I mean people who, according to everything we could see were believers before they were not just part of the liberal church and profess Jesus in name only, but seem to be Bible believing Christians.

Why are so many falling away. I want to address that in a comprehensive way. Today I want to be as practical as I can. We talked about the subject's a lot in recent weeks especially with my book has God failed you coming out last month but I felt was important to revisit to go a little deeper.

Here's the McCauley Lazo heavy for truth 866-34-TRUTH 807 are we having one of those situations.

Team not sure what happened but if guests are speaking.

I can hear them so all right. We lost our connection for a minute here. All right, let's it. We've had a couple of technical issues and in the last few weeks that we are really working hard on to try to find out what happened so gone. My apologies if we lost our connection there, but hopefully get to hear my whole answer. Let's try Aron again in Chicago. Welcome to the line of fire… Doing well thank you Gregory. I was an RN. All right, no problem. I had a question about the genealogy done by that record you out. The genealogy of Adam and I don't think I'm hurt and make the connections with the Hebrew, and then they try to stay like this could suggest the gospel so closely I don't like the gospel message in the genealogy to go from Adam ugly Dr. Noah Marita real quick.

In English name and then the definition of Adam that you not gaining how allowed Jared you knock Methuselah lay back.

Noah and then turn glazed and again there saw a go-ahead and read the names so you have Adam, then you have Seth than you have in those, then you have Ken on then you have hollow Lal then you have a consistent scroll through for each one.

Then you have Enoch than you have Methuselah than you have lame and then you have Noah so supposedly the gospel is being is being preached and if if it's it's it's lays out commands appointed and takes her place.and all that. Not true, not true first.

The assumption feel like you have solid answers may be a meme you saw just a little while I cut our response to that or something were confronted with on a university campus or some us come up with in your own family. Let's be as constructive as we can today.

Phone lines are open 8663 for 87884 a few weeks back I did a video responding to one of the viral tick-tock videos of Abraham Piper, also known as Pastor John Piper's son look at this New York Times headline a pastor's son becomes a critic of religion on tick-tock John Piper's were the most influential theologians in America, the son Abraham calls evangelicalism a destructive, narrowminded worldview and excerpts bite some of these videos you can see from these videos. Some of you viewed hundreds and hundreds of thousands of times is questioning how always talk about experiences he had in the missions trip, etc. this is wrong. That's wrong right Samuel hang out with parents and is a great time to call in 866-34-TRUTH 87884 and whatever connection problems were having with our studio.

Boy, this is more frustrating for us than for anyone. Trust us, so we are we are working hard to figure out where the problem lies can be corrected. But others are watching online are not having any issue whatsoever. So we will continue and what what I want to do on this side of the break will get some more calls. So I asked the question you have God bringing judgment in specific ways are like tornadoes or or doesn't say transit and earthquake were some terrible type of storm and God is bringing judgment with it. Can we therefore deduce that any calamity today is literally an act of God there if there is an earthquake. If there is a hurricane. The double tornadoes that that took so many lives and devastated the entire town may feel Kentucky can we say well they ultimately set us away. Therefore, we can be sure it's this rough Satan having access. He got God's permission to bring natural disasters on Job's family can that happen today. What about authority over Satan. So I want to ask those questions which are practical questions we come back 866-34-TRUTH 87884 the number to call.

Emil will get some more of your calls and your Jewish related questions as well. Right here on the line and the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH your exam is Dr. Michael Brown delighted to be with you and usually question phones are open 866342 is the number to call. When we got a special broadcast tomorrow as we celebrate 50 years in the Laura DMI spiritual Jubilee amazing just amazing nearly in many ways because I was such a heavy drug user, then 50 years later I massively healthier now that I was then, if you think about is my body's older but massively healthier now than it was 50 years ago and of course eating healthily which wasn't back then. In any case, just another thing to thank God for spiritual transformation. Being that the massive thing that amazes me to this day that just always save me, but what he's 11 to do and be part of all these years for Don in Germany for Aron in Chicago as we had some connection issues so gone, in case you missed any part of my answer. In short, I believe God is called the Jewish people to be world changers is given a certain gifts when we use them rightly. We have this incredibly powerful impact on the world. We use them wrongly have destructive impact. Too much is given much is required in Chicago.

No there there is not a preaching of the gospel through the etymology of the names in Genesis 5.

It's reading way too much back into them and one of the links breaks decisively. The one allegedly Methuselah speak about the size death reported the deaths of that the sarong understanding of the word with you. Check the best lexical sources and sources on on the master, the, the words and the meanings in an the recurrences and things like that and I focus on that settlement in my doctoral dissertation for names with rough elements healing elements in search of the ancient near East and did my best understand how names work. Took about a whole bunch of books on on on a master covert school theater, four-color massacre, which are names that that have that have defined elements in them like LE yahoo my God is his yahoo Yahweh that you have what are called hypocrisy comes with the shortened versions were part of the elements drops out. You have to understand, so I did dig into this in first for sure, the, the understanding Methuselah is incorrect and that breaks down the whole thing okay before we we go to the phones just report a Joel Rosenberg reporting on this new book by veteran Israeli journalist Barack wrote David and it's called trumps peace in the Abraham accords so according to Ravi Trump had no idea that Netanyahu was planning to place large swaths of the West banknotes was racist today and Samaria under sovereign Israeli law, Trump felt blindsided became angry.

Netanyahu announced the so-called annexation plan during the White House ceremony unveiling the trim piece planning January 2020 SKs. If the ceremony what the H was that not I will know that this is true, but that would sound very believable. When Trump told Steve to tell him it's an honor that there is no way that the US would support immediate annexation. Netanyahu felt humiliated and angry 02 very savvy people here in Netanyahu veteran politician skull be very accurate but seem true to color. A month later, when Israeli ambassador Ron Dermer met privately at the White House with Jared Kushner, the architect of the Trump East planner conversation devolved into a shouting match Christmas through Gerard's office, Trump told Ravi that Netanyahu never really wanted to make peace with the Palestinians and this to anger Trump he says the book is getting lots of coverage in Israel but not everyone is happy with it from US Amb. David Freeman who was a senior advisor to Trump and youth involved in the drafting of the Trump plan has blasted sections of the book as false as it reveals that even interview him to get his side of the story. Dermer has not yet commented. In any case, we are where we are today with great strides that that were made under Pres. Trump with Israel and the surrounding nations with more question marks, especially if the US continues to open the door for Iran to have nuclear weapons. So the plot continues to thicken okay. Can we say that any calamity that comes as an act of God. It was the calamity in the city if the Lord hasn't done it. You have versus like an Amos three limitations. Three.

That would say that some would argue that in an and therefore if there is a tsunami if if Hurricane Katrina the recent tornadoes that those are all acts of God, that would be one view. Another view would say no. No. Got the 70s we know Jesus rebukes, he rebukes the straw in the New Testament it was he rebuking his father was he repeating what his father did, and others would say no. The sort of Satan. Satan is the one comes to steal, kill and destroy.

And he's the one that brought these natural disasters on Job with God's permission, and others would say we don't know what to make of these loose a few things.

Be careful because these are people whose lives I mean you have regions of the United States. Read the especially in Kentucky that are devastated and and whatever the future holds for the people. There will never ever be the same. The tragedy was was so great affecting so many people so close to them that it will never be the same in the name of the of the city will be remembered for the destructive tornado in the pain right now other people in agony people in shock people in hospitals of his grieving deeply so let's if you have a theology that really believes that any natural disaster is an act of God. Be very gentle and careful in sharing it.

Make sure you share with a broken heart of compassion for those hurt if you say well whatever caused it. We should all be in the state of repentance because it reminds us of human frailty and that could've been any of us, and ultimately in God's sight.

We all deserve judgment amen to that.

Luke 13 where Jesus tells some of the Jewish men talk debate these people at dive in the tower phone with a more wicked than everybody else know I must repent all parish notes, we all suffer God's mercy we should all be dead, if not for God's mercy we should all died under his judgment or natural judgment or something else. So it's a reminder for frailty that we all deserve judgment about saying those people especially guilty of the opposite the opposite Jesus is saying the opposite that all of us really go by guilt, all of us should die so is by the mercy of God that were not smitten. So, if we so I don't know why this happened but it reminds me of human frailty gets below before God for God have mercy on me and have mercy on this frail race. Amen to that response. We also by nature. Satan is the destroyer of innocent lives, and God by nature is a rescuer of innocent lives in the God cannot do evil so again we don't understand why and how. But as I break things down.

If I see in a very specific and definite way that the judgment is sending a message ties in with the prophetic warning then I would have no problem identifying it as a judgment. For example, when Lutherans in Minnesota were contemplating changing their bylaws to embrace homosexual practice among Christians and to ordain homosexual pastors at that moment a tornado sweeps through the city at a time, which are NATO's are not expected at a place were tornadoes do not come and Knox office at the steeple of the church building as the meeting is going on, next door that could get your attention and and all a lot of people were killed. Something fell in crystal these people. That's spooky. If I was one of those people voting I'd say what is going on and if I was a street preacher, Collins, repent, and I saw that I was a ghost regular attention. So if you have been warning a reach. Let's just say that there's child trafficking going on the particular city and is a hub for employees being produced the most horrific stuff you can imagine, and you are you are warning people in the city are complicit with this you know it's happening and you're not reporting and you. These people need to repent until if you don't repent within six months. Judgments come tell you if you don't repent and six-month judgments, and and and five months and 29 days to that to the moment. There's an earthquake right there and it's like a giant sinkhole sucks that region in I would say God's getting our attention, but outside of that, I would say we don't know why everything happens, they could be sovereign acts of God, they could simply be the way the world responds its the world has been messed up come under divine curse because of human sin and the whole creation is growing so it's just the system is messed up because of sin and therefore bad things happen because the system is messed up, how much access to Satan, have will we know about Satan in the way that Joe didn't.

My friend Dr. Michael Heiser and other Ceja's atomic Job 1. The adversaries, not Satan that that we know the New Testament sought I respect we differ with that. There's a debate among scholars over the understand that to be the same devil the same house of Tom the same adversary same Satan so he had to get God's permission to touch righteous.

Job if Job was outside of God's favor and protection.

He wouldn't need it. That, but we now have a revelation of Satan. The Job didn't and through the death and resurrection of Jesus. We have authority over Satan that Job didn't at the same time we have a revelation that he is going about trying to destroy lives right first Peter five he goes about like a roaring lion looking for people to devour and he's bringing suffering on the people of God and we know also that we are doing spiritual warfare. Ephesians 6 that our battle is not with human beings but with spiritual principalities and powers with the devil and his demonic hordes and fallen Angels and all of that with whatever goes on in the spiritual realm in an orderly way world war. So is it possible that Satan could be high be behind the natural disaster will if if he could in the Old Testament as it excluded that he could in the new know I would not exclude civil still has to be under God's permission that could be debated up. I did my best. Decades ago to work out as much as I could to put things in clear lines of demarcation which can't always do that with behind the scenes in the spectrum.

Ultimately we worship God and ultimately we acknowledge God as King and ultimately we acknowledge that the tornado couldn't happen in the Scott allowed it to happen, but much happens every day. Contrary to his will and desire because when rebellion or because were in a fallen world. Either way, let it be that you worship God who sovereign and all-powerful that you recognize any of us could have died. Human life is frail and we all deserve to die, thanking God for his mercy and then be all the more vigilant vigilant good to help those who succeed one more help this in my book authored by go back straight to the phone. It's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 86643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown saying Philomela of the Hebrew words.

I a new song as a kid but did know the words met so useless at all. That's like from the Psalms is 866-34-TRUTH welcome to thoroughly Jewish Thursday back to the phones a Daniel in the marsh Brook, Pennsylvania. Thanks much for holding welcome to the line of fire.

What banks rapidly event but little published, have go at start with first. Leviticus 26 Deuteronomy 28+1st chap, there's no chapters applied to the modern-day nation may be explaining war is happening today. This patient will be there with right so they they are not national covenants that God made with the whole world.

Those were explicit covenants, or covenant that God made with Israel and made it clear I've chosen you out so too much is given much is required Amos 31 you only have I known of all the families of the earth therefore punish you for your iniquities when you read the book of Amos, you see that God deals with other nations based on general rules of righteousness, humane treatment of others, keeping covenants and things like that with Israel is his judge for very specific sins under the of the tour under the Sinai covenant so you could say.

Broadly, there are principles by which God will judge and bless so generally speaking, if a nation practice kindness of the nation help the poor. If if if a nation kept its covenantal relations and things like that versus a nation that was tyrannical ruthless slaughtered people en masse committed genocide, then you would just say that the blessing general blessings would be on the former, and in general judgment on the latter constant. We reap what we sow.

And God still does work, but in those general ways. So even in America we have more light because of the gospel. So were more responsible than subordination that that's not how the gospel but we are still judge in a more general way than specifically based on on the Sinai covenant because America is a nation that under the Sinai covenant what that applied to the modern-day program that is ready to bake. That's about debate and, in other words, if Israel is not under the new covenant right then Israel was still under the Sinai covenant, in which case would you say that God is still dealing with them under the Sinai covenant. You could make that argument. So the question is has God shifted and he is dealing with Israel under the new covenant. Even though the nation has not come into the fullness of that by believing in the Messiah or as Jews still believing there under the Sinai covenant is God dealing with them under the Sinai covenant. My understanding would be that the new covenant is for those who have entered into it, so those of us who are believers. But, as Israel has not entered into it, Israel is still on some level under the Sinai covenant, and although he's promised to preserve the nation preserve the people and is brought us back not because of our goodness. But because of his goodness and for his namesake. I I am always concerned about Israel's well-being. When I see so much unrighteousness in the nation.

Okay, so what. Go ahead so hard to hear you the go-ahead. Probably. But it I quoted you will be my statutes and my commandments.

This will be the blessing right.

If you disobey this will be the curse right now we have to say there's something wrong America with everything. One of them fires, flooding, everything seemed to be at the following is the Jewish people.

I don't know if they do this intentionally or not intentionally. They have themselves believing that they are the nation of Israel, but wasn't there 11 other tribes that were consisted of you, Israel right so America today is not Israel America today is not Israel said it was more America today is not Israel. All of the 12 tribes are portable and those of Jewish people today all of the 12 tribes are represented in the nation of Israel and the Jewish people worldwide. The idea that America was the the original Israel or the Mormon views. No DNAs against it. History is against it.

Scripture is against so when when Paul's talk about the 12 tribes and new Testaments because all 12 tribes were represented among the Jewish people that the Hebrew Scriptures talk several different times about after the judgment of the 10 northern tribes how they would immigrate down to the South they would come to worship Yahweh in the South, so they became part of the larger of Jewish people. So there are some scattered imports world would be lost to history and they may have. Like the posturing people so that the Taliban they may have Jewish roots. Many of the Palestinians may have Jewish roots, but they did like the American Indians have Jewish roots know know it's it's been utterly refuted through DNA and in the Mormon teaching of it is very much wrong so that's we were going of either try to leave me there or during your investigation absolutely breaks down on on every level, and if you look at the fullness of the blessings and the curses have we experienced the fullness of the curses below are snow nowhere near that another fraction of a fraction of a fraction, thankfully, were not under the Sinai covenant in America is not Israel right. Let's go over to Philadelphia. Greg walked into the line of fire. Hey Dr. Brown hey mom I was just wondering if you could help me answer question about the Hebrew in Daniel chapter 9 and the 70 weeks prophecy. Yup, Yvette basically as a futurist. I suppose you know verse about you know the Messiah coming in in the middle of the week putting an end of water take you in the middle of the lake covenant in the middle we can enter that price tag for the future.

You think he is not referring back to Messiah, but I personally kind of like the calculation of the classical historicists interpretation which has Jesus coming at the beginning of the 70 the last week and dying in the middle, putting an end to sacrifice within the middle of the last week, so if you need in verse 27 I'm wondering if the key in Daniel 927 could refer back to Messiah or does it need to refer back to the one who destroys the city and its highly labor back to Messiah.

Yeah, you can make a good case for it. It is the Hebrew is is a little bit difficult and obscure, especially as you get into verse, verse 27 so you can review or even have right so in verse 26 it's it's after the 62 weeks which follow the 70's was after 69 weeks. You create Mysia for a low so she will be cut off and and have nothing and and then then afterwords you have the the is in the oneness of the come and destroy.

It's the people of the prince to come who will destroy of the holy city, so you could historically commentaries have gone both ways they have seen the he as continuing the Messiah who puts an end to sacrifice with his death on the cross makes a firm covenant and then puts an end to sacrifice his death on the cross, or it's been read as is referring to what Titus does whatever agreement is made with the people and and then in the midst of it with the war is is cut short and and destruction comes and he makes an end of sacrifice by destroying the temple so it it is it's it's debated to this day. You might say the more natural reading. The Hebrew doesn't really have a more natural reading start it. You could say that the more natural reading is is that it's referring to the immediately prior subject, which is about the Nike the Prince that is to come.

On the other hand, because it's that the people of the prince who do this and that you have the he that that he could go back to Mysia you got like this may be yet. Her finger met personally that the main objective verse 26, one from a fire. He was like the main object of the passage while in thinking maybe at being the main objective verse 26. Maybe it would still be the main subject in verse 27 that make know it's possible but here's the thing you're dealing with as it's broken down subject in the first half of 26 of 26 a. This Mysia right traditional just doesn't understand is the Messiah.

We do right so 26 a Mysia is the main subject. 20 6B. It's the people of the prince who come there the main subject to starting 27 a could easily pick up on 26 a just as easily as 20 6B it's not like you got something for five versus earlier that you have to pick up again and insisted that the Hebrews is somewhat ambiguous… To say this, I would be the first to say Greg if something is an unfair reading of the text or just doesn't work.

Know this.

This could be written even like I am writing. Come try Zana and their these endless controversies about how to render certain typical verses and you can like it's like 6040. This way, but this is strong argument on the 40 psi. The kind of tilt the scales. This way so on the one hand, you could say the more natural flow is 20 6B goes into 2070. However, as you said, the centrality of the role of this Mysia and 26 a could easily carry into 27 I absolute it is a fair potential Douglas thanks for this.

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