A Friendly Discussion About Our Differences

The following is a prerecorded program you have an honest talk about some differences today for the line of fire with your host activist all the international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown was the director of the coalition of conscience have president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH that's 866-34-TRUTH your Jim is Dr. Michael Brown friends welcome to the broadcast. A few days ago I solicited questions on Facebook and Twitter and say tell me where you have some differences with me and post on Facebook, twitter and then on the Monday show.

I'll get to as many as I canceled my can be taking calls but I think you really going to enjoy the broadcast my appreciation to all who posted if you did so in a wrong spirit. If you don't believe in God at all in and posted some challenges but I'm glad you posted so I can respond to as many as possible and up to start with one from Ross such a series of questions and any links to YouTube video it attacking me and said Roth never saw the video anyway degrees by the hand that there are nine persons in the Trinity. Of course not.

He made a ridiculous statement by the way, and repented of it immediately so he doesn't believe that, but not of course not how could you asked me a question. I've made my views clearly God had for 50 years of Jesus going to hell as many had predicted that he's going to hell and suffer become Diaz course not.

Course not denounce the teaching scores of times deleting grave, soaking the anointing is much better than he had never heard them talk about it, but there's no such thing as grave soaking as far as a practice to Bill Johnson is repudiated.

No, I don't believe in it. I'll believe you can lead by the. The.

The grave of some previous man or woman of God and and so can the anointing, of course not review about the debunked oily Bible and cirrhosis supernatural from what I understand there was a genuine miracle that was taking place of recruiter time and then the guy decided to try to enhance it and and and make it happen on his own, but the whole thing may be bogus from start don't know no connection with it whatsoever.

You leave the use of the 70s is the let's use generation before the tribulation as prophesied by Catherine Coleman ops not so if you not aware of her sender.

She said it was a wrong prophecy, false prophets, so that settles that.

Let's just move on. Let's see here and and by the way, there is somebody posted this lengthy thing attacking me. You know, for endorsing Todd Bentley for years and years and addressing always false teachings.

Of course, bogus of the been on public record and and in private confrontation for many many years. Well over a decade terms of of not endorsing Todd's ministry, praying for his repentance and and homeless in the Lord about it. In any case is been publicly clear. Well, when you stop sending out your books and retire for ministry that only your serious this with got posted so much to show you that because it's just false witness, but it is really it. It's distressing to see how people will say these things.

For example, the ridiculous statement that he had made many many years ago that that within the Trinity, the father son and Spirit reach try and so was like nine gods of immediately what I was told was confronted by elves in this church are present repented of immediately is an idiotic, ridiculous, stupid and biblical statement right but just hold said that he never held to it.

After that if you record this if that's his view, you know, so that's that's that there's among charismatics Pentecostals.

There are all kinds of abuses, mistakes and errors of written whole books dealing with that minimum.

The hyper critics. There's there's all types of unethical behavior and and both are grievous, was a grievous in God's sight.

Okay, so a bunch of people have taken issue with me for saying pharmacopeia in Revelation 1823 simply means sorcery is not a prediction about the pharmaceutical companies doing what they're doing okay so Scott Dr. Brown. What else could.

Revelation 1823, 24 possibly mean other than what it claims is a group of businessmen using Pharma to deceive the nations okay.

First, the word pharmacopeia in Greek, if you will study it out steady at its usage in the Septuagint right so in the. The Greek translation of the Hebrew Scriptures which was used as the Bible by Greek speaking Christians for centuries, if you will see it. The Old Testament right if you will, if you will look into it if you will dig into the best lexicons if you will see how it's even alluding to the Nam chapter 3 verse four which is has the picture frame, which is equivalent to two sorcery.

There's no question it should be translated sorcery. There, that's what you'll see a translate that into and virtually all English versions right well big farms doing a similar source will mess us totally separate issue, but because this is pharmacopeia people think all it's pharmaceuticals know you cannot take the word used today derived from an ancient Greek word SLS with the Greek means of explain this endlessly, but we got our dynamite from the Greek Dumas power when power went out and Jesus didn't blow people up and healed them to can't take a meaning. Centuries later, and in the language. I will that's with the original met but let's let's just take a look for a second right, let's go to to Revelation chapter 8 chapter 18 Jesus came up from from a bunch of people that took issue with me over this so I'm in a read this okay so will Babylon the great city, be thrown down with violence is a big farms that a segment doesn't have to be actual city to be metaphorical. I'm fine with that right Babylon. Conferred with system role system.

I'm fine with that and the sound of harpist musicians.

If we place and trumpets will be hurting you know more aware were harpist musicians flute players trumpeters heard within big Pharma will know that me and craftsman craft will be family. The more the sound of the mill will be her new number. It really does seem to be speaking of the civilization of the city of a people, not companies in the light of a lamp will shine on you know more in the violence of bridegroom and bride will be hurting you know more for your merchants were the great ones of the earth and all nations were deceived by your sorcery look at this and in her and big Pharma. According to this interpretation was found the blood of prophets and the saints, and of all the been slain on the earth.

This talk about people being martyred for their faith being killed for their faith this to to say well it's been far you would never would've said that for a split second, if not for the Greek word pharmacopeia but the Greek word pharmacopeia doesn't mean pharmaceuticals doesn't mean drugs there. It means sorcery.

So go if you want to indict big Pharma for Griego text about greed. If you want to go somewhere else about putting people under pressure during to do certain things go there. I but this has nothing to do with it. III don't know how to make it anymore plate before you can interpret the passage you have to understand what the words mean, and this word means sorcery and and let me say one more time.

No one would've been talking about big Pharma is the Babylon of Revelation 18 and read the whole chapter does not apply reform right nobody would've been saying that if not for the Greek word pharmacopeia which is been misunderstood to mean pharmaceuticals so do you honor the word of God, you reference the word of God you believe that God knew what he was doing and speaking those words, which are also relevant to the first century Christians heard them and don't change the Bible don't change the Bible and only choose those who want to be truthful to what the text says for not being spiritual because they go about with the actual words mean, okay, let's see here yet and in another one says is your stance upon the key anomalies that were deceived in the world seems to contest drugs which the back permissions etc. goes on on on so it keeps going on with her things and global restrictions.

The fact is it that read Revelation 18 does not apply to to big Pharma.

It cannot. Many of the verses simply cannot so I'll say for the last last time in less the word pharmacopeia occurred there which people wrongly took to mean pharmaceuticals nobody would be reading big Pharma into Revelation 18 and I won't do is the people involved. Developing a vaccine are trying to save lives there may be a lot of greed at the top.

There may be others who are trying to get control over populace with them. There may be many with wrong motives along the way but I personally believe that those under Pres. Tromp, who were working hard to develop the vaccine dose trumps motivation as well were seeking to save lives, whether they did the best job or not, whether it's wisest or not to rush you through that quickly whether there's a lot of greed along the way, those are all separate questions but I do believe that there was an actual attempt and continues to be an attempt to save lives that I do believe whether you agree to vaccine or not. Okay where let's just see here I'm looking for a statement that I have at this one from Debbie I feel you defend your stance about believers looking to present encompass the Savior too many times in it; I wrote a book called Donald Trump is not my Savior. I wrote that book is a Trump voter Donald Trump is not my Savior. Subtitle evangelical leader speaks his mind about the man he supports Pres. wrote that in 2018 after voting from 2016 phone from 2020, but all the while shouting at seller Savior don't look to him as bigger than life skill be a mistake. So I'm sorry you feel of defendant my stance about that, but generally I only do when I get attacked for it and I feel it's helpful for people to understand why there was no about defending my stance said about me being eschatology just gloat now rather to help people see a particular thing in how we look to him in an idolatrous way and how I had warned about that many time along the way and once we got past the elections and and then there was that there term old of the Lexus was stolen and I saw traumatized people were in it and it was as if the Savior is gone.

Then I spoke out even more loudly, and of course got attacked forward so I'm trying to help people see that the Lord's legacy. Trump runs again. 2024. In less he was a changed man and not as destructive in his ways. This is a someone who voted for him twice right unless he was a changed man and not as destructive and in his ways, and unless we did not look to him and idolatrous way that I would have grave concerns about his presidency if if we said hey were not looking. Tim's and can Savior without looking in aware not saying without trouble member is known only Trump can save America as many have said, if were not saying that's like yeah pragmatically, Pam versus Democrat yeah if he won Republican nomination there. Pragmatically, I think you do a better job and but where I differ with him on the complaint and he himself learns exercise in humility and not be so destructive that it okay great good. Seems like a better choice. But if it was a repeat scenario of what we seen, I have grave concerns in any way I do my best to first seek the Lord and speak what what I could burn just because an imperfect right. Obviously we all your best to sort out your pastor, preaching parents restricting their kids will drive us to sort out what's important way to prioritize but I do that and then as I see things happening.

And I feel this need to respond like when I saw the rise of hyper grace, wrote a book about that confusion over can you begin Christian wrote a book about that when I saw evangelicals in long relationship with Trump, but I so slick and Cimarron Weisel so I gave guidelines here. If we are past the Trump test evangelicals at the crossroads was given 2020 if it were gonna pass the Trump test and have to get these things right so I was laying out the concerns as a Trump voter laying out the warnings and and finished another book that's due out September of next year and the political seduction of the church like talk about got wrong and then reiterate what we need to do lightly for the effectively indeed God has called us to Cecil Esfahan and that they will be right back and look at more of your differences with me.

You're going to find where we will file the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the reminder file now by calling 866-34-TRUTH dear again is Dr. Michael Brown having an honest discussion about the differences you have is I solicit them them on Facebook and Twitter so we can get into these let me just remind you as we come to the end of the year that your support for us at the time like this is so helpful it really gets us moving into the new year with wind in our sales and end gives us funds to to reach out to more people because really late in our heart to get on as many radio stations as we can in the coming years and and would do that with your help with with the Lord's directive, but it's it's it's a joint thing, and often he works for you and through me right so if we been a blessing to if we helped you help us help others if you been strengthened. I will report into these many years. Or maybe you're a newer listener of your reader. If you been strengthened, then turn around and help others.

You can do it with your tax-deductible year-end gift to ask Dr. Brown.org. Click on donate. All right. So as I solicited differences from you.

This is one from W. Brett Hild and he says this taking a middle road regarding vaccines and not showing clear leadership in that area. Romans 14 premise doesn't hold up in light of Mark 715. In my opinion, and you're not showing responsible leadership regarding people's health. Pro vaccination is responsible leadership in my opinion anti-VAX is responsible sitting in the middle is liking the courage to be a true leader. So Brett I appreciate you posting I thanks for your candor. First is under with courage of risk my life, literally, literally, physically risk my life preaching the gospel with my friend Lisa Potter being with us last week from India with the sharing with our our staff. Some of the adventures experiences we had and where we willingly restore lives preaching and right preach the opposite of what I was told to preach in the politically correct warnings were given knowing it could cost the saws because of the medicine is obedience of a lost everything we had 50 acre campus in seeking to be obedient to convictions I had before the war years ago lost reputation get blackballed on various networks because of stances are taken been on hit list of major organizations. No there there list of singling you out to discriminate against you in a major organizations in America. So courage is not the issue only if you need is obedience so you can think I'm mistaken, but to apply to lack of courage serve. You don't know me.

If you say that you not only everyday of my life. I take stands that are costly and I don't calculate what is going to cost. I honestly don't calculate is simply matter for what does God want you once this ado it. The bottom line is people look to me as as a leader in the body as a father is an elder.

They respect my views and I do not know what the right position is regarding vaccinations. I am responsible to God for people's lives. If I give bad counsel and mislead someone and it hurts them spiritually on responsible right. Hebrews 1317 this is a leader in the body.

I'm accountable for people's souls, James Jacob. The third chapter that many should be teachers be because you will be held to greater accountability. The top medical people that I spoke with have real concerns about the vaccine and do not endorse at the same time there are brilliant people, Christians committed to the intimate Christians committed Christians bring people who have grave concerns about the vexing then on the other hand, there are committed Christians, brilliant people, scientifically educated, say the vaccine is saving millions of us right. I know people personally court, according to what we know.

They died as a direct result of: I mean friends of mine according to what we know. They died as a direct result of complications. Specifically, due to covert. I have other friends who give me first-hand reports of of people close and family members who are in excellent shape and within 24 hours getting vaccinated drop dead of a heart attack. I've received numerous reports like this right. I do not have the medical expertise to sort these things out. And God has not spoken to me either way.

So the only responsible thing for me to do the courageous thing for me to do is to speak the truth and end.

By the way when I first saw your your your post about take a middle road regarding vaccines. I thought you wanted me to be anti-VAX that you want me to be pro VAX everyone of you that thinks I should be pro VAX or someone else who thinks I should be anti-VAX. Okay so the courageous thing for me to do here is to honor the Lord and to speak the truth and to encourage everyone to do the research talk to medical professionals pray for wisdom and make an informed decision. I have lots and lots and lots and lots and lots and lots of friends who were vaccinated and they had no side effects of any serious kind and are doing fine. I have other friends were vaccinated God covert. After getting vaccinated became through it fine but they did get covert. I have other friends were not vaccinated God covert, mildly, and others do not ask that if you have gotten so the responsible thing for me to do the thing that takes courage for me because I will come out decided that side is to say, I am not going to take your good faith in me you're looking to me as a leader that's respected and trash that by speaking things about your health that I don't know about all to go to vitamin mission.com and and in addition to living healthily that the supplements will find a really good I'll do that because I I believe in the product and I take these things myself. So I that I have some expertise and it's pretty generic over the Stolle. If you take this you get sick know it's it's healthy supplements right but again you have to realize when you're in a position of leadership responsibility. Marcus Lamb felt was very important to sound alarms about vaccines, etc. and and and did that died as a result of covert right people severely speak out against it. He really felt there were issues he without their consent. That being said, when I had Jonathan survived Jan with me.

Dr. Stephani strongly pro VAX is anti-mandate as I am antimandate right so I've been outspoken about that antimandate but God forbid that I speak to you in a life-and-death area where I don't have expertise that would be a serious sin against you in a serious sin against God. And if I say look.

My opinion is worth nothing here then why give it.

Why give it if it's worth nothing. So I hold that position. Sorry you're looking for something else, but I have your account to God.

They can be of trillion people saying the same thing you're saying sorry that your account to God, thank you that I asked for post like this. Thank you for posting Brett I feel your position that God exists is wrong. So Brett, thank you for posting that the first question is if you realize if you could conclude and understand that God is real, that he created to brought you into this world for purpose and that one day you stand before him, and give account and an you realize that he's full of love and truth and perfection and beauty injustice which follow him. Would you give your life to him just asking that of curiosity, but it I know these real he's worked in my life regularly for 50 years. I have a personal relationship with them. I've seen his hand over and over and over again, but intellectually, scientifically. I cannot conceive of nothing, creating everything. I cannot conceive of nothing suddenly creating matter. How could nothing, create everything you see the universe always exist. Will that that's that's more absurd the same God always existed because the universe by its very nature's's's physical substance that has to have a beginning. Same with life estimate beginning. To this day, scientists cannot explain the origin of life to the next day, scientists cannot explain the origin of matter to the stable if you believe the Big Bang like my friend Frank, Trixie, you need a big bagger because science can explain where all the energy everything comes together to make this happen in the illustrious Dr. Stephen Hawking's stable, no gravity was always zero gravity. Maybe it's supervised them aboard. We gravity come from, how is that the universe operates under find precise laws and with mathematical precision and where human DNA that the coding is is so dense that if you read basically what a letter a second would take you dozens and dozens and dozens and dozens of years to read the DNA coding that sent us.

So if if you going out for breakfast one day and and you see old may be some of your towels have been cut up into little pieces and they are now spelling out all the way down the steps and and and down the hallway and into the kitchen. I hope you're having a good day. There is a message that I want to get to you, and I wanted to make sure to get your attention goes on and it's it's actually goes through the entire house and up the walls new outside this and it's all just these following sentences that they just happen. This just happened. Obviously not someone did it while that's like a thousand of the thousands and thousands of thousands of thousands of thousands of thousands of it on the mama of the complexity of the universe of the complexity of the human being must be pointed out that that one of the. The least sophisticated creatures is a warm and yet the design of a worm is more complex than the decidable iPhone when we think the iPhone just happen.

Just happen one day. So I find it intellectually impossible to conceive of universe that was created by God to the one that by nature eternally existed and could bring these other things into being in motion. I find it intellectually utterly bankrupt even to entertain that split-second but this much I do know second intellectual argument if you will genuinely with all your heart to God, if you're really there. If you're true and you make me the know it sent off following your sincere he'll do that really will. If you are sincere. God knows your heart. If you are sincere in her prayer. I will be right back, take up more error on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown.

Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown was much as I love doing radio as I will get more people even had days to set up for critics to call in on different subjects and sometimes on whole days will ensue home from them at the same time, the post will be piling up attacking it wrong on this this this is that we tell you what this talk about on this day gone on this day thought.

I regret that I'd love to hear from more people are different type a lot of function to talk radio to get calls that they love to take calls from different so there's no end of questions that you call him without a love that Emily time a controversial subject.

Some so glad that you weigh in. But I wish for you were called to differ with me.

I love dealing with differences okay call on Facebook post that I disagree with you. You can lose your salvation. I believe this is an important issue. We should all be in agreement, especially as we witnessed to others, so Nicole I don't use the term lose your salvation is a term for figure salvation. My question is what you do with all the verses in the New Testament, and there are many which warn us about the danger of apostasy that talk to us about the danger of a brother or sister turning away from the faith even of one book I keywords you have. Warning after warning he was to Hebrews 3 before he was 10 Hebrews 12 about the severe judgment that will come on those who willfully turn away.

You symbol that makes about one insecure why you think I will force you to stay in his house using double force you to stay in his family or are you saying that the that once you save God forces you to follow him in and and when Jesus says that if you deny him.

He'll deny you the there's just empty words. The computer warns about those that once Newman and turned away be better for them if they never knew them. That release those verses out so what I'm witnessing to someone I'm telling God's saving him keep you to the end. But why on earth would I tell someone the matter what you do once you say you can you can live in adultery can be a serial killer.

This Metamucil of the heaven.

Why would ever say that it was not true. Why would a more preset message using only want to tell eternally secure. Okay, first, show me in the Bible where that was the message word that was included in the gospel message that let's start there. Show me that okay we are. There's a reference to. If you believe your eternally secure but yet he said I'm trauma in the salvation message exhibit noncomplex of the policy and correct no known complex on the farms and will force us to stay so if if you want to follow in your safe your good find another worry about if you don't want to follow him. Why would I want to give assurance to someone while earth ability assurance to someone that the matter what you do, no matter how you live your your your still in its falsehood. McKenna messages that you did not believe that I believe a summons to save the fallen will does not exist as I can selling salvation by works to some there's if you preach it like that. I preached so if you cry out to him for mercy. He'll save you.

You actually save you as long as you want to be saved or saved. But if you want to go your own way and deny him live in sin and rebellion.

Turn your back on him. He will stop you.

So the assurance is there for those who want what more could there be, let's see.

Okay I want to skip down to here we go. Dena I want clarity regarding your position concerning the rapture and the charismatic gifts deny. I imagine you are a newer participant in our Facebook page because of the clear on these issues for many many many many years. So obviously you're coming a new song very happy to take the time of the whole book with Prof. Craig Keener letter for the antichrist why we don't believe in the pre-tribulation rapture so of that will make absolutely clear view.

I am historically millennial, I believe, according to Scripture that Jesus is coming at the end of this age will set up his kingdom there will rule and reign of the earth for thousands millennial kingdom will be the final rebellion. Destruction of the wicked, and then the eternal age. I do not believe in a pretrip rapture because of what the Bible says I don't believe in it a Jubilee. The tongues were spiritual gift.

Of course if so, why because the Bible says so what purpose did tongue serve after the completion of the canon of Scripture have nothing to do with the kind of Scripture. Tongues were spiritual differ according to Paula for string since 14 we commune with God you pray in tongues. We praise and tongues speak mysteries in spirit to God. Nobody understands us reefer at once I started first of these 14 to some of the questions I file you may want to review that chapter the Scriptures make clear that tongues means language yes could be heavenly language, Paul talks about speaking tongues of angels and tongues of men for scripting 13. The gift of tongues was a supernatural ability to speak a foreign language that the tongue speakers had never learned Lapin once asked and asked to dozens it happens again. And when Paul speaks about it for scripting's 14 he refers to it that no one can understand you and you speaking mysteries in the spirit to God. There were specific rules in place with the apostle spoken, tongues were simply had to be an interpreter for this 127 and speaks in a tongue to her the most.

We should speak when the time and so misinterprets become a publicly publicly if you're delivering a message in tongues privately posit I think I speak in tongues more than all of you of what languages are modern day tongue speakers communicating when they communicate the speaking indecipherable gibberish exit sounds like a disciple to restricted all the language I've preached around the world and my translators translated think that You language a serious of people heard people talking to something that can't be a language sounds are those why they keep repeating certain syllables and its actual language sounds in the several may affect.

Paul writes about times in his day that outsiders will think your speaking gibberish. That's what he writes the real tongues. The outsiders will think your speaking gibberish when he said King James will think you are barbarian wetlands and a barbarian is someone this piece of sidebar bar Barb was reviewed barbarian from suppose like to say that that those on the outside. If everyone speak in tongues at the same time, the genuine New Testament times, right which the vast majority of cases are not a foreign earthly language with a heavenly language that God understands right that someone hears it from the outside that they were crazy. That's what he said about the tongues in his day, so tongues is a wonderful gift. I pray in tongues virtually every day my life and it is wonderful communion with the Lord and an clause explicit. Don't forbid speaking in tongues, so this continues effect is explicit that this continues until Jesus returns to see him face-to-face and know him as were know so it's beautiful wonderful gift is wonderful revocation. Now I do have friends, colleagues, first hand, where the spirit came on them and they spoke and they just so there speak in tongues, but it was the language of the person or they were. I know of accounts like that to this day, and then I was just with her brother. We were checking out a place that we both been on TV and I heard them talking to the. The gallops clean rooms in Spanish. I sent someone to pick up Spanish is that I learned just a little in school but I can speak it is that I was ministering in Spanish-speaking countries a lot and just have a tremendous burden that to to be able to come to speak with people conversationally, and he said I really pray and give the gift so to this day speak Spanish. I heard him speak Spanish.

He has witnesses that know the whole story and tell what happened you gave me details when he was in the car was translated others, and so the residents don't €and then he began speaking so I'm speaking Spanish. So does happen still happens like that I've inherited from a non-charismatic friend.

He seductively will happen on the strip with my translator is not and then we talked to the head of the minister. The so you reach all these unreached people. Happens all the time, but the primary gift in the New Testament is particulates for scripting's 14 is speaking to God and praising, worshiping, praying in tongues in this beautiful, wonderful, edifying, and then my mind gets renewed in the spirit. Is this just a beautiful beautiful experience but was Cindy, thank you for taking middle road to the vexing issue appreciate not being a knee-jerk reaction or hike some stuff with another brother could tease me for lack of courage assume the appreciates by my not being knee-jerk reactionary it let me say this again many of you follow the ministry for decades.

Literally decades, and and we we built up a certain amount of credibility with you and those that are new.

Getting to know me realize that I meant is going with the tide of the society or with the right says her with this one says her my best to honor the Lord be biblical, regional, many others preaching teaching you doing the same thing right were returned to sort this out before the Lord. Whatever the issues are so honored to take unpopular stands all the time because my goals is to please God, not please people, but by pleasing God. I hope I can serve you. I may not please you initially but all I can serve you in the long term. Your essay what you said was reliable what you said was truthful when you said was helpful if I'm not sure once I am not sure if if I see could be this way could be that weight. I'll tell you in with a stent to be taken.

I'll take it regardless of cost or consequence J probably only disagree with the tone you exhibited in your post relation book and a few people thought the little bit I just don't see definite evidence that anyone's reviews roughly correct.

There's always an argument for the Right to feel quite emphatically that the pretrip rapture. Teaching is not in the Bible quite sure of it. But some of the finest people I know on the planet differ and we differ before the Lord. We love the same Lord studied the same Scriptures so I we we differ is I LL think is ambiguous, but that's fine. Others no problem we can have differences or what. What troubles me. J is the feeling that you have that that the tone that Dr. King and I wrote with was belittling if you could really help here. Please go through the book and if you spot the passage will notify router Craig Keener Road, anything that sounds belittling. I would love to know because everything in our hearts, in writing, it beginning 10 was. Not to belittle and to constantly talk about the people that love the Lord that differ with Osier and not to accuse people just having an escapist mentality fight the title but not for the antichrist was on a title and an the publisher subsequently realized how much it was our title as we talked about our title is why we believe in the pre-tribulation rapture. This subtype enumerates, it is a must apply well you're afraid antichrist.

That's what you will be ruptured out. That applies to some of the supply to many others is theologically read it differently and believe he will be here and see the antichrist but it would really help if you could pull it out because overwhelmingly we get thanked by readers from FOR a gracious tone wheat we get thanked by people or even attacking us for a gracious tone so I would really want to know if if a passage came across in a way that was belittling, I would really want to know that I really want to take a look at that.

So if you could do that and and perhaps we really get euros.

I know it's not belittling at all. You just read something into it, but if there's anything belittling, we would actually want to fix that this is not a heart again.

According to we heard from an overwhelming number of readers was anything but belittling people appreciated our gracious differences with others within the body, making clear heavies or differences within the body. We don't divide them said many times literally for decades. So my own immediate team. I don't know Monday with a stand. All of them pretrip posters rapture pork citizens of our plan by Expo light a fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown. I cannot believe how time has just flown by. But I do love differing love dealing with differences look different with people but I love dealing with differences being challenged about rightly so responded to post I solicited on Facebook and Twitter a few days ago asking for is we differ with me. Chad posted free will is an illusion.

I differ with you on that, and I would say that you chose to post that I chose to differ, but you might say. Yeah, we think were making choices but really not well if you believe in biological determinism that we are just products of an evolutionary process and were just responding automatically. Certainly will not fundamentally differ because as I said God created us, not a biological determinism. But if you say God foresees for gnosis regain everything I beg to differ based on the Bible from Genesis to Revelation. Throughout the Bible recall to choose choose choose choose choose choose choose.

And then God judges us, he commands us judges us based on choices so you may think philosophically solution.

I believe the word of God plainly says it is real of Victor.

I do not like your middle road stance on biblical creationism or the creation days in Genesis 7 literal days. I don't believe they have to be literal days but I cannot say whether the earth is young or old, because I could read the text easily so when I read Genesis 1. Do I believe in reading seven literal days. No, I believe that that creation is presented in a schematic way to point to theological truths about who God is and that's what we learn from it right and that is presented in a certain way of his pointed out is free similar to the of the tabernacle building of the temple and very similar designs and divides place of sevens and things like that so to me it's there to teach us about God's that that's what is therefore do I believe that there literal 24 hour days. No, I don't. I don't believe that right. However, you could read it like that. It's legitimate.

We like that. I don't really like that but you could.

It's also legitimate to not be like that, based on the text so again there are.

I appreciate the fact you'd like me to take a different stand, one where the other, but to me the biblical evidence can go in one of two directions. The biblical evidence would lean towards younger versus older but going the direction from what it seems. The scientific evidence goes more towards older units, but I don't have sufficient scientific expertise like you could you could put your Ross and Ken Hammer or or was Ronna and Jonathan survived or just name and older scientists and the younger scientists put them in the same room and they have a debate, maybe I be able to see some assorted point here and there, but otherwise minister the more technically get the less like I don't know who's right here so I made dogmatic stands on hundreds thousands of issues in trust for high pay for every single moment of every single day. The moment that goes by that soul is not attacking me for my stance and I got enough books out tackling controversial issues, but were I have not come to a definite conclusion myself as I compromise it's honoring God it's it's being faithful to God as best as I can be in honoring his word look ready as a commentary okay so Dylan was some verses there not like massively important terms of the overall scheme of the book and history of interpretation anything like that but it's really difficult to figure out who's talking.

In this verse is a God speaking to Isaiah's. It is a speak to a disciple in the commentary sneak onto back and forth and and I spent hours and hours and hours as like and then some say it seems this of this is sometimes very difficult to land somewhere you say your interviews, I lean towards us but can be dogmatic when when I can be dogmatic. Trust me, it's my nature to be dogmatic is my nature to be black and white.

It's my nature to say this is right.

Other views around. That's my nature's first say I was dogmatic about every single point. I believe that there is no room anywhere. Now I'm dogmatic about fundamentals Hills.

I'm willing to die on a bill appreciate your funny little comment about your church in Alaska yeah okay so a few people posted about Sabbath and law. Acts 15, these were things later and and and there's nowhere in the New Testament were Gentile believers are ever corrected for them serving 77 there's a very clear precedent in Rome. We were Gentile believers and usually was. Not to divide over secretase which would include Sabbath and cautions to warns against anyone putting you under pressure, observe this evidence is that the Sabbath is the shout of the substance. The reality is found in Christ in the Messiah – the New Testament emphasis therefore I will not go beyond the word in the same logic that would get you keep the 10 Commandments underwritten stone by God. The same logic that would get you keep those would get you to keep the rest of the tour as binding and obligatory make his acts 15 lays it out. Say nobody does say that the Gentile believers will catch on later is that here not to say the catch on. Later everything else it means familiar with these things for the basic things were told differently with a heard them ready so there was an opportunity to address it. That was the moment the say the whole church must observe the 77 it didn't happen didn't happen and no one the rest of the New Testament is not okay.

So read the writings that of the disciples of the apostles did they say to the rest the church must observe as of the seventh. No they didn't. They didn't so I have to go with word says right over over on Twitter of someone posted strongly that there is no historical evidence for resurrection there for the reason for Judeo Christian what my goal is not for Jews to be Christians. My goal is reduced to follow Jesus the Messiah because often what it means to be a Christian.

This is different than what it means to follow Jesus the Messiah is a lot of baggage with the word Christian. So let's emphasize that but historical evidence for the resurrection it's it's really quite the contrary. It's very very difficult if not impossible to explain the rise of the Jesus movement without his resurrection and you you have to realize that there is strong attestation for his death. Even evening and other Roman sources in the decades that followed about his death Jewish literature in the centuries that followed talk was Ethel everyone know some of them die, but my point is going to his violent death 22 is execution that is well attested nexus within the New Testament but outside and you have to ask yourself why does New Testament paint the picture of the heroes, the leaders, Peter John Matthew the other disciples. Several Gospels, all of whom are leaders in the early church, the apostles. Those closest to the Lord, why does it paint the picture of them as cowering in fear is not believing the reports about his resurrection about try to stop him from going to the cross and and being shocked when he rose from the dead to the point that Thomas is overly enticing face-to-face and put my hands in the wings and assignments.

It was really him. So it is a fair question asked why were the New Testament.

Paint them in such negative terms as opposed to confident believing sure and then this not example of cognitive dissonance.

They were not expecting him to rise when he died. They thought it was over his resurrection shocked them to the point that they live the rest of their lives willing to die for him as it's often been said you don't die for a lot, so the exceptional growth of the affected. Not a single one of the leaders ever stop preaching his resurrection. After the and the fact that to this day in his name miracles take place is is ongoing evidence of his resurrection, but historically very very difficult to come up with another scenario. And again, especially the way the Gospels paint the leaders it's it's it is not the norm, especially when you're when you're writing some about yourself that's indicting something norm to do that you want to, cover-up the faults of the sins of release of people of confidence. What you say you represent the women as the first was to see him rise is the last argument you want to make if you try to prove this in a court of law in the ancient world because women were considered secondary witnesses and the men initially going believe them. So the way it's written, is there is an academic term called criterion of embarrassment where you ask okay what someone embarrassed themselves with with a movement embarrass its leaders of and less they were telling truthful stories and ultimately points to the greater truth of God's faithfulness unless you've read books arguing for the resurrection, or if you've watched debates about it but I decreased to know what you've actually read about the historical proof the resurrection or even the old who moved the stone type books will lay things out and as the centuries of going on, we've not seen this repeated solar movements were people still follow the deceased spiritual leader yeah but not attesting that they met with him physically after his resurrection, that this continued for weeks and weeks and weeks.

You don't have those accounts, even those that were waiting with the Lubavitcher Rebbe in documented Schneerson 1994 when he died at the age of 92 waiting by his gravesite from dries never happened. I'd encourage you to check out my book resurrection resurrection investigating a rabbi from Brooklyn preacher frugality.

In the event the Chancellor bodily last I saw was on sale in Kindle for 299, so everybody if you don't have that get it get it while you can. Resurrection is a fascinating read.

Trust me on a fascinating, ultimately edifying the resurrection is put in my name, resurrection, Amazon get Kindle for 299 and if you have a completed just download the app on your phone, your computer tablet with a tape we must remind you get my emails to my email.

If not, you take a moment to ask Dr. Brown.org boring choose one or so into the lesson of all because you so get started. Ask around.org. Got email first name last name email address if you like your physical as well. You another program powered by the Truth Network