Pushing Back Against Transanity

The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network from the latest example of trans-entity in America to Canada's loose attack on Luther's freedoms got you covered today for the line of fire with your host activist all the international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael grow your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown was the director of the coalition of conscience, the president of fire school of Ministry to the wider fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH your job is Dr. Michael Brown, the world is going crazy around us.

We will round our thinking. We will build our thinking on the rock of God's truth, so we will not be moved instead will renew our minds to what is true to what is right to a spirit was wholly to what is good to what is best and we will shine our light together in dark places.

Welcome friends to the line of fire. This is Michael Brown your voice for moral sanity and spiritual clarity here to refuse with faith, truth courage, so you may stand strong in the Lord 866-34-TRUTH number to call 866-348-7884 and friends really cover a lot of ground.

But I want to encourage you that the tide is turning. When encourage you that change is rising.

I would encourage you that more and more people from wider and wider different backgrounds are coming together and saying something is wrong something is wrong. We need to stand together and make things right. In fact, gobbling I'll be doing an interview with a woman who identifies as a man with sex change surgery perfectly happy with me referring to her as her really doing interview. This is if you purchase a room together and talk about the Bible talk about God talk about the six rally wheat we differ probit. Every single point and on some passionately but absolutely coming together to warn against what is being done to children. I been warning about it for years now. This individual sounding an alarm raising her voice as someone who's lived through certain things and can shout out much more loudly than I can because of personal experience wheat we are saying stop stop for a second children's lives are being destroyed. Stop for a second. Things are out of control. Now on today's broadcast where talk about the latest example transcending America then we can speak to someone in Canada about a bill that's just been passed friends you be shocked when you hear this right. I'm not doing this to be alarmist. I'm doing this is a truth teller on doing this is watchmen on the wall. I'm doing this is is your voice so helping to equip you, but also expressing what you're feeling, articulating what's in your heart with the platforms that God's given us by God's grace we will continue to do that and I want to give him a pledge with his grace and help.

I'm not backing down on that shutting down on that shutting up on the getting more quiet. I'm speaking all the more loudly, all the more clearly clearly and all the more full of grace and the help of the Holy Spirit. That's the goal that's a heart that is our intent when I say trans-entity. I'm talking about the craziness of the society. I'm talking about transgender activism in its full blown manifestation for those who struggle with their own gender identity for those who feel deeply conflicted in their own bodies. You are not my enemy.

I'm not calling you crazy. I am saying what's happening to our society is crazy and for each individual. I asked this.

Would you agree that the very best would be God helping you from the inside out. Would you agree with. You agree that that's better than a lifetime on hormone supplements that it's better than all kinds of surgeries and even with the surgeries, the hormones, you will never fully be what you want to be in the which you can never go literally from male to female female to male.

You cannot actually do that still have your DNA, you still have your thousands of genetic markers that say that you are male or female. You can go from male to female in certain ways, but you can conceive a child is a female and ontological from female to male.

You cannot impregnate someone is a male.

So wouldn't you agree that the best solution specially for children is to help them from the inside of the civil why you bring this up again okay let's look at the latest new start with the article that I posted earlier this week and my article was was simply titled why I'm not excited. No, I'm not excited to hear that a male swimmers beating female smokers. So this is the latest news will Thomas who swam for several years for an Ivy League school.

Then Colby things were shut down now has come back on the St. for the same school, but as a female swimmer so will now identifies as Leah civil does not give them an unfair advantage. What what what if he's on hormone symptoms.

The other way and it reduces testosterone Disney still have an unfair advantage. Yes, he does so, what are the results of this biological male competing with biological female. So the New York Post documented this they they just mistakenly in and I followed their coats here refer to meters, not yards. Okay because NCAA uses yards of meeting someone pointed that out to me on Facebook.

So, as documented in the New York Post enemy, including Princeton and Cornell on November 20. Thomas had a one 4347 time of the 200 m freestyle and four 3506 and the 500 m freestyle. So in these races. That only did did he come in first, but he broke the Ivy League records right had he been competing against other men on the national level. He would've been way off. The best times with the record for 200 m being one 2915.

The record for 500 m being 407 97 is for men and women nationally look at this 10 second slower and into annuities or 200 yards, 139 10 versus one 2915 and 500 m record for women 500 yards four 2406 verse four, 7.974 format right so your tormentor a big gap here it to say it's unfair is to be bigoted, now here's here's another headline. This is now the Washington times transgender swimmer Leah Thomas smashes women's records, Stokes outreach, so there are more events over the weekend I will my article. Then there were more events over the weekend that that Thomas participated right so so check check this out. This is not headline on the daily mail from the last events on Sunday.

The headline says fury as transgender you pension University of Pennsylvania swimmer 22 who used to compete as a man smashes to US women's records and we can competition and finishes one race. 38.

Sackett, 38 seconds ahead of her nearest rival when you hear of a contest with someone winning by 38 seconds it is not a matter of fairness, this is a matter of insanity. This this is it.

I will give you endless series of analogies as to how unfair it is but but look look at some of the details. Leah Thomas actually will, but was within Vienna Spanish to US swimming records in Akron, Ohio contest Thomas when the 1650 freestyle in a record time of 1559, 71, beating her should say his closest rival Emma Sophia con Desi by 38 seconds Anna would've won the race instead. Anna comes in a distant distant second that you realize what it was 38 second differences so over the course of 16 minutes to get that far ahead. And this person was was lower down was not on the level I swimming team as a male right so when he was on the male swimming team. He was, he was not on on the top team he was on the second string team. Now he's the world's fastest didn't get into college in America. She should say he left rivals floundering in a 500 freestyle.

This is only €500 that that will be my 14 seconds and universities is a letter that is rewarding. What nonsense it be like if Lebron James or Kevin Durant or or some other NBA star now identified as a woman and and started playing in the WNBA they would smash every record for all time. In a matter of weeks. The first game they would smash every record of what's ever been done wow is not amazing for the following is against the women sickens. This is a direct assault on women as direct assault on women's integrity and women's rights, and all the work that's been done for so many years with title IX to develop women's sports in schools all the work that's been done over the years to have equality for women, build this up now. You destroyed all and you're telling me you think used to swim so the other woman swims over 16 minutes 30 seconds. That's an exhausting long swim right kit. I'm not a swimmer, but I can imagine the shape you have to be in an obviously you need a competitive drive to push you to work harder day in day out, year in year out to get your very competitive best to be crushed by a male.

So let's just see a couple of the notes from the bullet points of the daily Mail article Thomas previously competed for the school's men's team for three years before joining the women's team harder say his vestments. Competition was November 20 19th, two years ago was racing and swimming as a male. Some have voiced their anger at her should say his swimming success claiming to be quote unfair and many refused refer to her as a woman for good reason. He is not a woman. He will never be a woman he may identifies woman may believe his will, but he is not a woman. He will never be a woman. NCAA rules dictate any transfer you lastly can take part women's events. If they've completed a year of testosterone suppression treatment. Okay, as you know, I'm a medical doctor, scientist, I don't pretend to be, but I can tell you this, there is no mystery here doesn't matter. This testosterone suppression this person the way he is built the way he is made has a biological advantage over females. And that's why he was a male swimmer but not the best not not not on the first team as a male swimmer and now he's doing things that have never been done in the Ivy League, smashing records, destroying records and this is post because the celebration wow what an accomplishment mixture on the trans community. Note, let let's think about the women from in here. Let's help will Leah Thomas find wholeness from the inside out and fulfill his destiny as a man as God created him. Let's help him there and pray for him there. But let's talk about the women here. This is all in fear. This is blatant discrimination against women. This is Fran Sanna.

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Okay I wrote an article 2019, March 2019 titled the pushback against Tran sanity is coming from the left, the pushback against Tran sanity is coming from the left, and I want to go through that article with you and some of the data that's in it, I note that we all know that the best male athletes are faster and stronger than the best female athletes is biology 101 that events rocket scientists still rocket science.

Still, it was striking for me to see the disparity between the fastest mile run by a man 343.3 by he Trammell Gallucci or Caruth excuse me this is decades back and he was a female in the fastest mile run by a woman. 412 56 by Svetlana Mr. Cove.

I had no idea about a mile in it that the fastest woman is is 30 seconds behind the fastest man almost 34 seconds it's is remarkable, so check this out already. 1965, 1965 Jim Ryan set a world record for high school students by running a mile in 355.3. A record that is still 17 seconds faster than the top female athlete in the world has ever run digest that 1965 in high school. Jim Ryan ran 355 three, the world's fastest woman. The top female Miler in the world is still 17 seconds behind with a high school male did in 1965 and in fact every year because it was how many hundreds thousands of of of of men young men in high school or are smashing the fastest record by the world's fastest female Miler so I asked the question what would happen if the top male runner identifies female heat. Instantly shatter all-female records that would be totally afraid of these women crying so hard and sacrificed so much for so many years. This was a surprise that female athletes including Martin and I were to roll a prominent lesbian and Sharon Davies, a British Olympic swimmer have raised their voices to cry foul. In response, never truly came under fierce attacks from others in the LGBT Q community force you to backtrack from initial comments and apologize for calling trans athletes cheats. This prompted Piers Morgan Harley defender of the right. Over the years, a steady alligator activism to come to her defense and speaking of Serena Williams Argosy the greatest women's tennis player of all time.

He wrote that is not sexist to say the top thousand men would beat Serena meaning tennis.

It's a cold heart. Statistical fact. So Morgan said imagine a scenario where €25 male player ranks a number 200 the world and earning 100,000 year so they decides he wants to identifies a female leader for genuine transgender reasons were for duplicitous fraudulent simply commercial reasons analysis to compete against women that player if he underwent hormonal treatment reduces testosterone levels to record levels and spend the next three or four years playing this woman on the women store. He now she would instantly be the best female tennis player that's ever lived. She would destroy Serena Williamson and every other women player and this is this Piers Morgan when I was on Piers Morgan years ago was to and was confronted about homosexual issues and I was able pushback with the word set, so March 10 since 2019 headline on the UK publication. Telegraph announced two thirds of British public think it's cheating for women born male to compete in women's sports will yeah the exactly and if the people are sincere and they really believe there female okay then unintentionally cheating but they haven't for event mentally so radical feminists have raised their voices to protest the idea that a biological male who identifies as woman is now legitimately female, devoting an entire book to the subject. The book is titled female erasure with a forward by feminist icon Germaine Greer, who would militantly oppose some of the things I hold to and believe Greer Roche men without femininity.

We believe that they are achieving femaleness, but femaleness is a tougher destiny than they can know or guess femaleness is demanding and painful weather at menarche. I'm mispronounce the problem with menstruation child and her menopause and born women have no choice but to deal with it.

Femininity is a D6 masquerade men can be as good at it and better than women, but that does not make them women about this lesbian feminist Julia back testified before Congress against the gender identity provisions in the violence against women act meant to protect transgender people. These provisions actually act as a misogynistic, Trojan horse, undermining key protections for women and girls in Becker self recalled facing threats of violence due to her opposition to transgender activism. She said people on the left have tried to silence me by using threats and other tactics of intimidation, a kind of hatred that most lesbians would expect to receive from people on the right. I been told to Dina fire to get raped and to choke on lady blank by members of the GPT community so none of this electronics. On the moment. One of its sacred cows is threatened. Those on the left with eyes to see have no choice but to speak out Tran sanity is unknown doing their entire movement. That's why it's not surprising that the influential gay journalist Andrew Sullivan has also raised his voice to Sullivan.

If you abandon biology in the matter of sex and gender altogether, you undermine the very meaning of homosexuality. He said if you fall the current ideology of gender is entirely fluid you actually subvert undermine core arguments in defense of gay rights seems in the transgender activism is undermining feminism, undermining the gay-rights movement and undermining common sense. The unraveling is at hand. Mother nature can be quite stubborn and dogmatic. On the other side of the break we come back in a few minutes when I'm at the break yet, but will he come back to the next segment will be speaking with gentleman from Canada was gonna tell us about something very very alarming fact is I look at the press release.

Parliament passes most extreme counseling ban anywhere in the world. What sort would you come back to that in the moment, but in 2004, 2004 when God began to lay on my heart the effects of gay activist where it was going. I saw immediately the gay activism entrance was part of it was and is prominent that the gay activism was the principal threat to freedom of religion, speech and conscience in America already. In 2004 assault a colleague of mine in 2003 formed a ministerial coalition for this very reason he saw the same thing is only recently found out that we both drove in about the same time by the calling burden of of the war and immediately is, as I really pray and thought about these things. I said okay I see the issues but what about the people I need God's heart for the people made appointments to meet with with local daily just to talk and and hear their heart. Ira read everything I could read those who said we we we try to change and couldn't go said they were gay Christians have a large library of books and gay commentaries, and above all these kinds of things to do my best to develop a heart of love and compassion for those with whom I differed in those whose agenda I so deeply resisted and reject and what godly the my heart in early 2005 was this word reach out and resist reach out to the people with compassion resist the agenda with courage that is fueled the fires of what we've done these many years in the early days, and for some years friends rock Mike what are you doing what you waste your time with this. What you getting off track. Who cares about this is not an issue in my response developed into this I feel like an umbrella salesman in the desert people are saying to me why are you manufactured so many umbrellas while you build more warehouses to store more umbrellas that's Fonseca's big storms coming and you need these now. You can't make them umbrellas fast enough because the storm has overtaken the nation and twisted every thinking right up through the White House. Members present Obama that lit the White House up rainbow colors in celebration of Supreme Court's outrageous redefinition of marriage six years ago. So friends, the wake-up call has been issued for many many years and many were issuing it.

Well before I was now's the time to rise up as the pushback continues reaching out to people with the love of God with the grace of God with the goodness of God with the kindness of God with great patience assisting is very dangerous. Now you know the error on the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown. Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution.

Here again is Dr. Michael Brown is joining us years back when James Dobson was leaving Focus on the Family, he would do a broadcast in America and he would talk plainly about the Bible homosexual practice.

Maybe talk about issues that were facing in society or legislation or things like that would air all over America. But when he came to the Canadian broadcast they could not area in Canada because it would been shut down and Focus on the Family would have had trouble because of that Mildred's Canada for many many years and for decades has been more aggressive in pushing back against Christian freedoms against various moral viewpoints.

I'm to do with homosexuality and the redefining of marriage in Canada continues to be pushing in a very very dangerous way and now a bill is been pushed through a new Canadian leaders, pastors have been fighting against this for some time, but now something's happened very important development to do my best to shout it out to the world and to draw attention to it, but joining me now is JoJo Ruble or José Ruba. He is the executive director of faith be on belief and he is also a member of the equal rights Institute's board of directors. José Georgia which you prefer to find out about.

Thank you so much for letting me speak with you today yes will thank you for for coming on short notice. First, just tell us little about yourself and faith be on beliefs we get a bigger picture of who you are, who will prepare believers a Christian apologetic literature that we started hearing Canada precisely because of what you said we are much, much more I want to use were progressive much more aggressive in our revisionism of the cultural today are cultural Christian values and so we realize Christians the part of the problem is we don't have training in the church on how to engage in these tough issues that is winsome. That is an ambassador like a second ring at 520. But the ministry that I'm I'm representing here is actually free to care, which is a group we started because in an earlier this year and are late last year my own municipal government in Calgary where I'm from pastor conversion therapy by the unlike any other ban anywhere else outside of Canada so conversion therapy is one of the big political goals for the LGBT activist and one of the things that they've done is they've made it a prominent fight where they empathize with people who survived so-called conversion therapy and this is meant to be in this movie like there's a counseling where you torture someone or for someone to change from gay to straight that that that them mindset that most people have with the definition of my city used is so broad, it is actually a bylaw now that it actually bad, simply behavioral counseling.

Even if you're not trying to change your orientation. So if you were to go to get a counselor to say I have a gay porn addiction. I want to reduce that gay porn addiction because of the nonheterosexual behavior that would be captured under the bylaw varsity and when we we we pointed this out.

We were in Malawi or a copy with they have is not that was not how can it be applied that the problem is we just have to go back to the wording of the bylaw so we managed to organize the largest responsive any municipal bylaw any time across our province here in Alberta. We had several hundred people come in and fetter. They've extended the member date amount of time people could submit things because we were so well organized about the bylaw past and here's what's what's happened now. So when when someone can go to a counselor if they're seeking to reduce their sexual behavior. One of the first of the counselor have to do is ask if it's heterosexual or nonheterosexual behavior that they have to reduce because of his heterosexual behavior they can get all the support they can walk, but it is nonheterosexual behavior they can get that support any more at risk of paying a $10,000 fine for the counselor of the organization hosting I listed this scarf a few things every one of us would sign a bill in a heartbeat that prevents anyone from being forced into trying to change from gay to straight. In particular if it involved abusive practices and I know Christian counselors and secular counselors around American other countries that have been helping people with them on same-sex attractions for decades, and every one of them would say.

Of course we were in ounces but when a timeout anybody link being forced. When Otto met a parent in a kidnapping a child from somewhere and sentenced to some camp to be deprogrammed or reprogrammed would all stand against that which about someone, but let's just say you have a man right. He's 25 years old. He was sexually abused when he was a boy he found himself confused over sexuality as he grew up he ended up finding himself attracted to men live that way for some years it's radically born again reads the Bible and says you know I feel this is the way God created me.

I don't believe this is this is right for me.

You are saying that as an adult he would not be able to go even to a secular counselor who help them sort these things out or about one of the reasons why I got acted because I was never sexual abuse, but that is my story as well.

When I was in university, I realized I was attracted to someone in my Bible study group, and it was amended Bible study group and I was thinking and on the pastor's kid.

Why would you let this happen to me God and I thankfully was part of the Christian club on campus asked for a phone number for local Christian counselor and the staff occur at the club gave me the phone number from a local Christian counselor and you know in terms of that he didn't remove all my same-sex attractions right away, but he gave really gave me an understanding that that I feel is so critical for this debate, which is let sexual attractions or something that you have the are not something that you are that I did not have to identify with those attractions I could manage them. I didn't have to behave a certain kind when I've been single and celibate.

I haven't acted on those feelings and I've never actually identified again even though I have these attractions so that's my story and I'm actually never share that publicly until this thing happened in my city. This earlier this year. My parents didn't know about it, but I realize it was such a critical debate because other young people exactly like you said Dr. Brown have the same have are losing that same opportunity for support because absolutely it is. It doesn't matter if it's a consenting or nonconsenting Attila doesn't matter if it's a consenting child encounter that you can be you can get married at 16 years old, was long as you get your parents permission. But under this law you can get counseling to reduce nonheterosexual behavior that you may want to reduce at 16 years old.

So imagine if you got it. Even if you wanted to get same-sex married you can get married at 16 to someone of the same sex. But if your pastor or your rabbi counseled you in that marriage counseling is that you can have sex outside of your marriage.

Wouldn't that be reducing nonheterosexual behavior through that counseling would technically be conversion therapy. The definition used in the city of Calgary but but what's worse of this is passion and I can tell you get because of my own personal experience I was able to call local counselors here secular counselors asking them what to do with this lot. Most of them have no idea about the breath of this law when we are able to explain it to them and we called Elise a dozen counselors here psychiatrist.

They would say something like what you can come in to help reduce your porn porn addiction but you can't mention at gay porn addiction because we can't help you without an ethical have to do you have the same kind of restrictions for people coming with straight porn addiction.

And obviously, the answer was no. And yeah think of this, and again I will mention some being abuse because you think all the more that person is a victim there's trauma back in their lives.

That's what that's what I brought that up. Even if you, in that case were psychologist or psychiatrist said let's go back and look at trauma in your life. We can't let let's put this around.

Let's say there's somebody who always thought they were straight, but now there's another one, but I've always had these feelings but not got his religious hangups and and because when I think I I think is wrong for me to act out so I want to see a counselor will help me embrace my gay identity that would be legal right you can come clearly from straight to gay theoretic. I'm right and Wheatley legal. What about someone what about a kid when adult who is struggling with with gender confusion dissent fall into this as well. Yes, confusion and particularly mentioned perspective for young people. So what happened now Dr. Brown is a were no longer looking at municipal law which the biggest fight would be a $10,000 fine. The Parliament of Canada in them has now passed the House of Commons of the path of criminal law where you could go to jail for five years for counseling a child, even if that child wants to get counseling. So imagine your seven-year-old granddaughter comes to you and she said I think I'm a boy. Can you help me get counseling when you bring that child to counseling, you could go to jail for five years for doing that even if the child requested that help so the only kind of supportive gender confused child could get is to affirm that gender confusion since let's let's lay this out your parents. You've got a daughter is nine years old. She says I really think I'm a boy I believe him.

Boy have all these discussions with okay so you can counselor the counselor can say yes we are firm. She has gender dysphoria. She's really he should now send her to school as him dressed as a boy, and in another couple years were going to put him on hormone blockers to stop the onset of puberty and then we ran a team of his talk about vasectomy in all of these things.

That's perfectly fine legal.

But if this kid saying I'm conflicting elusive. Let's try to get you counseling so your home in your own body that's illegal wording for the federal bill specifically any practice treatment or service designed to repress or reproduce nonsense, gender, gender identity or gender expression so any kind of practice to consider how vague that it denied some denominations. You have a stop treatment or practice that usually engage in service could be a prayer service right and in and in terms of all kinds of practices that we would have in the church. I would definitely include pastoral counseling, the V.

The kind of a practice that they're trying to get go to the heart of their real goal, which is that that we cannot say that any kind of practice or any kind of sexual behavior outside of the heterosexual marriage is is wrong it if I let me just as if I could let me read you the preamble to the billability. Six.

It just I'm just a jump in his minute break coming up right of quote, we come back when you do this and then I want to talk about how this is how this affects religious freedoms in in Canada.

I mean it's it's ready, affecting someone's ability for self-determination and and Dr. client privilege of saying hey here are areas I'd like help and like to change.

I'm amended this this bill is criminal. But we come back again to dig a little deeper and find out what can be done what we done. We knew this was coming.

There's been resistance to it now. Something like a flood. The sling is gone through. I'll continue to shout and continue to draw attention right do everything I can. What else can be done if the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 86643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown business reason we have been sounding on for years. There's reason since 2004.

We have been saying those who come out of the closet want to put us in the closet. Yes, in their mind fighting for equality, tolerance, freedom ultimately so-called being inclusive means under exclusivity for those with other views.

Being tolerant means absolute intolerance receiving a direct assault on freedom of religion Greener of conscience. You have the right to self determine one's life. Direct assault in Canada right now.

So back to José, go ahead and read the preamble and that I want to ask you some very specific questions about how this will affect clergy in Canada absolute bargain. The preamble will help inform the preamble to technical event with the legal part of it, but it informs the rest of the laws of their understanding and you can see right away why this is so harmful if the where conversion therapy causes harm to society because, among other things. It is based on and propagate the myths and stereotypes about sexual orientation and gender identity and gender expression including the myth that heterosexuality is the center gender identity and gender expression that conforms to the facts assigned to a person of birth are to be preferred over exploitations, gender identity and gender expression or other gender and identity took. If you believe that, for example, God could make made male and female for marriage and that is the only place for sexuality you would be violating the preamble. That's what that's what they're trying to fake it. We cannot say that homosexuality is no wrong and you know their cases documented years, decades back with Catholic priests who were banned for life from communicating publicly because they made these very statements this this is going on and we've asked the question will Canada ban the Bible when California almost passed a similar bill. We asked the same thing will ban the Bible because if you say will just read the Bible. The Bible lays these things out so where were not. This is not to people with no knowledge of what's happening screaming the sky is falling. This is people with knowledge of what's happening say this is worse than you realize. Okay. So, by implication, let's say you are a denominational leader your bishop over your denomination and you do a series of teaching teachings on sexuality and more and and marriage and you get a number of people you church come their tithing members and and is members of the church they can get professional counseling within the church and we have pastoral counseling and and people specialize in things and they come and say okay I got convicted me. I need change here or there. I realize this this gay relationship is not right in God's sight, etc. what what happened to them. Under this bill does not fall under the heading of professional or not, yes, will be absolutely good. I should make no distinction. Dr. Brotherton professional or just pastoral counseling or even from talking because the bill also has with all the promotion and advertising clause.

And so, remember when I should start my story. I got a phone number for local Christian counseling or from) giving me that phone number is considered promotion.

So with a pastor is preaching and saying we have a prayer service tonight where we can have people who want to reduce their sexual behavior homosexual tendencies or we have a Bible study that covers this or you can come to get counseling at 6 PM tonight if you want to sign up, get counseling to help you reduce your point.

Gay porn addiction on your gender confusion that is promoting or advertising, and you can go to jail for two years since you said again this reason we have been shouting this from the rooftops. Okay, so the situation Canada is different than American a few and few ways that Americans tend to to be more feisty and fighting and you know that the independence thing and annulus is a difference in personality, but conservative Christians in America make up a larger part of the population than in Canada.

So you got a small number and and and not always the that the fighting spirit Merck which can be a good spirit or a bad spirit. What what what happens here. What can be done is if if there's a call for all pastors to stand and just preach on this on Sundays are all accounts is to refuse to me that there be a wonderful thing to see happen, but is there anything can be done legislatively in the courts will write about how to pass through this that we were actually expecting her to pack today and at night and mentioned earlier, what happened with the conservatives with a artery bypass all of the agreed with the rest of the parties in parliament to bypass public hearings and all the normal steps you would follow to pass a bill they skipped all of that offender completely tort Senate which is an unelected body like in the US and we were expecting the building to do the same thing, but it looks like or pray for as we speak.

But they're going to let witnesses come in at least some of the experts share so there's still time. If you're in Canada to write to your Sen. and ask him or her to allow for public hearings and to reconsider the awarding of this bill is that I looked at the United Nations definition of the medical Association of psychological associations of North America. No other group have this kind of definition of conversion therapy and and the key here is that this going to be a weapon. I think of the church because because of complaint based Dr. Branson.

Anyone can complain against the church, even if it's false complaints and because of the criminal law in Canada must be investigated by the RCMP. So what I'm urging pastors, church leaders to realize is if you don't take a stand now, someone will go after you if you can maintain a biblical worldview and and sadly Dr. Brown what's actually happening is pastors themselves are self censoring. Yeah, I heard I heard the other day that you I'm unsure your of your audit is familiar with Nancy Pierce. He wrote a brilliant book love by body. Apparently when she speaks that Christian churches here pastors of already been going through her speech and censoring parts of it so they don't violate the conversion therapy laws in their town that the reason I said for years that were being censored by the world is because we have been self censoring her and and and even if not as aggressively and that we just avoid certain topics because the two controversial and and is so all we do is further sink ownership further hurt her children, grandchildren and enemies. It is you're in the front lines.

You know this but when I'm asked to speak at a church a few months ago the church about 6000 had to come in to spend the weekend.

Talk about human sexuality and God's design, especially focusing on transgender issues. Obviously, with compassion for the people within dealing with the larger activist agenda.

I did a Friday night for young adults, and then to service a Sunday morning than Sunday night Q&A after every meeting. There was a line of people wanting to talk to me.

Many of them in tears every one with a personal story that touched their lives.

The church is called to serve these people when I'm semi political activism or trauma. The church called to serve and help people who are hurting and here we can't know you can't. You can't give them the best solution you can help them from the inside out. You all you all you can do is he to be silent or affirm something you know is wrong or destructive and and I think what he knew that we wanted to share my testimony publicly for the first time it we need to remember that we're the good guys we have good news to share. And we internalize the culture's hatred of oxidant hatred of the gospel to say that maybe we are the bad guys but if we could just rephrase what Augustine and and gunk on descent right when they said we have to hate the sin but love the sinner. What if rephrase it this way, we have to hate the sin because we love the sinner, and what what this really indicates to me is the church really doesn't love their LGBT Q neighbors because they're not fighting for them not fighting to give good news to them and that's why I'm doing this. That's why I shared my testimony even though this is been so really hard to publicly talk about Dr. Brown because I realized well that the whole story of the incarnation Jesus took on our identity as human beings so they can give us a new identity as a forgiven child of God and that the gospel message is not in a culture that says we are defined by who we love the gospel says were defined by who left off yes and that the message we have to keep sharing with people and every one of us even on the holiest day. Every one of us still work in progress. We have been saved. We are being saved will be finally saved and no José, I know people that dramatically, even supernaturally, were literally changed from being a straightahead supernatural express. I know others over many many years, counseling, digging deep went from homosexual relations to heterosexual relations and I know others that said hey I've I say no to these desires.

They been less than they don't define who I am and as you said, living the celibate life of the Lord know you're not not not claim to be anything other than what you are, which is a work in progress saying I agree with God. Therefore, every day I'd every one of us is called everyday to deny ourselves right and then to pursue holiness in every area of life, which we continue to grow into. So, God bless you for your for your honesty and candor here and listen you got allies here in the states more than you realize will will do our best to shout this out a plan to write on this and get it out to all of our outlets in the next 24 to 48 hours and of course we've done this broadcast your best to shout about that. But here's the deal. The church always has to go against the grain church always has to do with right it may well be that to do what's right now. This can be a penalty in prison and that may be the sin that wakes up the church to be a whole lot better if we just wake up without that having to happen. So, may God continue to give you courage, wisdom, strength, may he turn the hearts of many in Canada. He appreciate your time and effort. May God be with you. All right, well, thank you so much José much appreciated hate coming to spray for minute would strengthen our brother on the frontline.

Strengthen him with greater courage and resolve continue to work in his life would strengthen those standing with a male voice of courage, I know those have been standing within the minority male voice of courage come and spread through Canada in the mid to be awakening in the church that literally changes the laws for good Jesus name, amen. Our friends, we didn't take any calls or even attempt to get calls today, but in 15 minutes to be over and YouTube its Esther to Brown YouTube channel ASK DR Brown on you to take all your questions enjoyment there in 15 minutes to have an awesome time. Another program powered by the Truth Network