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Is the Biden Vaccine Mandate Constitutionally Legal?

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September 13, 2021 4:30 pm

Is the Biden Vaccine Mandate Constitutionally Legal?

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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network vaccine mandate from Pres. Biden. Is it legal is a constitutional stage for the line of fire with your host activist all the international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH that's 866-34-TRUTH euro. Jim is Dr. Michael Brown welcome welcome friends to the line of fire. This is Michael Brown and we have a very important broadcast. Today we welcome your calls. I'm going to be talking with the top Christian attorney to get wisdom on the question are the vaccine mandates legal are they constitutional and legal did Pres. Biden have the right to make this decision.

How should we respond later in the week I'm going to have on a very strong committed follower of Jesus, a strong Bible believer who is pro-vaccine. He's a PhD in chemistry who explained why he agrees with the vaccine slow. He differs with the government mandate. We speak with him about the vaccines themselves doubling on Wednesday. Today were going to focus on the question of the mandate, the legality of the mandate. If you have any questions on the legal issues. Any questions on what happens to you as an individual and you are told you must be vaccinated. Here's number to call 866-34-TRUTH 866-348-7884 before I get into any of that, and even play some clips from Pres. Biden in the recent past and now in the present before we do that out of got a big announcement and exciting announcement I I have been really looking forward to this day I am charged and excited about this announcement okay. We have been on daily live talk radio more than 13 years now, more than 13 years and we broadcast in different stations all over America.

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Again, this is not to determine truth I'm asking what you think that's what you poll what you think that your view but I said if you've not yet been vaccinated against covert was the single biggest thing that is stopping you as a concerns about the long-term safety of the vaccines or you resisting government overreach do not feel the need for vaccine because of your overall health sold 17% that I'll think it's safe. 13.5% said government overreach 19.5% said oh think I needed than 50% said all of the above. Equally so factor that in to those other answers so there are many questions about the vaccine will will talk about the vaccine itself or the vaccines themselves on Wednesday with Dr. Jonathan Saar, foxy young earth creationist PhD in chemistry against the mandates but pro-vaccine. So, talk vaccine questions and if you have issues. If you have concerns about the vaccine itself. It's not really vaccine or long-term health issues or other things than Wednesday is a data call and he is welcoming your questions and research.

If you have serious concerns. That's the data: today's data call and legal issues or or mandates or the employer says you have to do, but one of the biggest issues that people are having the other vaccines is member they started under Pres. Trump and he held this is one of the great things this administration did needed a big rally recently in Alabama. He said hey, I've been vaccinated myself.

I encourage you to get some booze over your statements or personal choice. You have your freedoms. Gotta keep your freedoms, but hey, I got the vaccine I think you should, but at and it gets gets a bruise over that, but the issue is not the vaccine itself. The issue is the mandate justice.

Listen to this little clip with a few different quotes Pres. Biden Press Secretary Jen Sasaki and others know.

I don't think it should be mandatory when the manager mandatory.

There will be no nationwide mandate I was referring to mandates by private institutions and portions of the federal government. There will be no federal mandate one that's not the role of the federal government.

I don't think you'll ever see a mandating of vaccine sickly for the general public. But you would never mandate at least I do not think you would be pretty surprised if you mandated it for any element of the general yeah so pretty surprised if you mandated for any element of the general public, Dr. Anthony Faucher so many are saying wait, wait, Pres. Biden, you said it would not be mandated, and this was emphasized by those in your administration. This is not the role of the federal government on the other hand, what if what if Ebola was ravaging the nation and people were dropping and dying like flies.

Does government have the right to mandated packs and and it was certain there was 100% certainty that this vaccine is the safe is any that we have and it's been tested for decades, etc. good government mandate that that doesn't have that role is the constitutional so rather than weigh in with my extremely limited legal knowledge to talk with someone is really well versed Constitution and related legal issues going Franco to come back to take calls at 661 filename line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the minor fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH here again is Dr. Michael Brown all to say out loud with me legal legal not medical. That's our focus today Wednesday.

Our focus will be medical not legal today legal not medical reached out to my old friend going back to the 1980s on Long Island. John Franco, we have been colleagues all these decades. For years he was the lead attorney with the alliance defending freedom and we bring him on with with key social legal issues taking place. I remember when he gave a talk at our congregation years back years back and talked about the major court case that was income to the Supreme Court, and it was going to decide whether marriage would be redefined and it was going to be a five for vote in Justice Kennedy would be the deciding 1 Which Way we go to Sears before it happened years before. Over Burger fell change so many things so don't Franco's been in the know and asked him to join us today to talk about the government mandate hey Joe, thanks for taking time out of your schedule to join us today. Thanks Mike put her refusal right so broadly speaking, Joe.

How do we evaluate whether the president has the constitutional/legal authority to make a decision like this it will alert a product think it is not done in the deal. Naturally, a split of opinion, but sometimes opinion on whether you have your authority or whether it be a part of me, but I think we have to understand this three-part order and the answer may not be the same for all parts essentially of a first. He requires all federal ploy to be vaccinated. That's what he has his greatest authority, speaking to federal employees department getting the most attention is where he reaches out into private employers of 100 or more and regardless of their connection with the federal government requires that they I've been vaccinated, or undergo weekly covert to affect the part that most of jeopardy. Police authority. Lastly, in the sport stop and discussed much, but this is significant, it requires any entity that receives payments from Medicare or Medicaid work federal funding of flowing some help if there's a kind of a condition put on the spelling hey if you want the federal dollars. You have to required your healthcare workers to be vaccinated well enough that's most likely unconstitutional right so let's let's break these down then let me first backup and asked this. Is there a scenario where you can envision the government have the authority, especially that that second category just for the general public can companies of certain sizes. Is there any cement scenario with some kind of plague is going through the nation. There is a proven antidote to it. A proven vaccine something like that where the government could order something order quarantine order vaccination or is the principal the same regardless of the threat under extraordinary condition or some authority to quote Jacobson in the Supreme Court goes way back goes back to 19 075 and Jacobson the state of Massachusetts order vaccination in the middle of a smallpox epidemic, and that was upheld by the Supreme Court in elk and that was the state ordering the vaccination and they stated paint the really dire picture and the consequences of smallpox were very severe in all and all their I'll just say that that's the case, acute getting thrown out and put before the court like for you have held the couple responded to that number one that was the state which has the police power that the state ultimately affect an employee's current the federal government that actually does not have power unless they are specifically given in the Constitution, the federal government action of the limited powers so states can do more in that way, but even that decision and the line that the case of the company is very much in question now because that kind of thinking God abuse.

Probably the height of the abuse is the case. This is the sort of infant lawyers know it well.

1927 of the case quote buffer L where Oliver Wendell Holmes, Supreme Court Justice upheld essentially force sterilization of mental and competent. I'm using the language that that you expect them. In the case had something like better for the world that have been waiting to execute degenerate, you know, for the watch there imbecility is better to just take care of the spell sterilized and competent so that they cannot do no producible children, so that was kind of the height of that line of reasoning, the state could compel you to get those treatment I with a sense that there's been no rebound in the opposite direction in the Supreme Court of kefir would be moving away from saying now that you state not have the power to compel people to do certain things with their body and if you think it it doesn't take a lot of analysis to see this coming. It reaches its apex in Roe V Wade where the Supreme Court you know the size of the state does not have the power to limit what you what a woman does with her body in the choice of having an abortion to anything. The case authority is repudiated. That kind of Oliver Wendell Holmes, sort of thinking is just now looked at with great disdain. Joe wants to the main line of argumentation that's being brought by the twentysomething states that are already contesting this already, right so and verify official contact until OSHA actually passes a regulation, so let me just say this right now all we have is a by executive order that really details to what he did as he ordered OSHA, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration to enact rules which they are allowed to do and this is going to be one big source of litigation. What is OSHA left the is OSHA ever ordered vaccination. The answer is no, never. It is highly unlikely they have that authority.

If something like that if there was authority for that.

It would have to come from for Congress. But this is OSHA's authority I have about their rule) of the bacon make a rule if here's the quote workers are in grave danger due to exposure to toxic substances or agents determined to be toxic or physically harmful to do hazards of fact the rule so typically will work with toxins in the works tribunal chemicals are poisonous or something like that to get from that role to compel vaccination is more than a stretch. The expert of the legal commentators were saying oh that's efficient tend to be hard-core partisans will have their spouse partyline. If you look at the more independent commentators even people on the left will more fair-minded like Alan Dershowitz, former professor at Harvard Law school, they save now. If there's nothing authority and is kind of cool so I think that OSHA's authority will be will be struck down when they conceive of such a by the there may be other details in the role that the better kind of dicey like well if if if the alternative is you get tested every week. Who pays for that. How do you administer that you know how quick that look like they would have to flush that out as well and come up with some specific, by the way the penalties are very severe and they get increasingly severe so you know that you can be fined up to nearly $14,000 per violation and there's the creation of the penalties credit as you go along. What you don't comply with F that the main 4 May litigation quickly. One OSHA doesn't have the authority to do that have number two essay. Even the president does not have the authority to number three still argue the federal courts apartment. The federal government does not have the authority to do that. And even if they do when the off chance were wrong and you think the federal government does, then it's got to be done by Congress. It cannot be done by executive order. So those would be kind of the crux of the argument with some other technical ones, but they're not addressing right so in in a minute and 1/2 less. If you can. How just on the ground for the average person. How does this play out. You just if you have issues with it and you feel this is a reach from the government. Is it safe to say okay this can be played out in the courts over period of time. There's no immediate concern. I should have risen an immediate concern. Yeah, you know, probably replayed up pretty quickly. OSHA will take 3 to 4 weeks and thought to get the regulation. Then once it's important, but may be. Reports active, but once the regulation of the lawsuits began, and probably this will be expedited would not surprise me if this gets to the Supreme Court within 4 to 6 weeks from the time the first lawsuit was filed on kind of injunction being rushed up on an accelerated basis. The average person. I hate to put this way, it depends depends who you work for.

Remember, if you work for a private employer, United Airlines, and they compel you to do this, even before there's a regulation you've got kind. The limited right that this is more like a stick and carrot kind of strategy for the administration to try and use the stick now to be the employers who are not doing that. If employees more than other employees probably covers two thirds of the American workforce.

So if you're in one of those companies now and there are not compelling you to do it. Don't worry if your company is not inclined that way. Don't worry I I think this is likely to me to be struck down, or the action on it before it actually get your company but you, even if that happens, the bite in the spacious and solace is not I jump I can find out person like you take your calls to Joan Franklin, stay right here the line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown.

Your voice is more cultural and spiritual revolution there again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks for joining us today on the line with talk about the legality of the vaccine mandate, the code vaccine mandate the presidential by my guest, Joe and Franco onetime attorney until recently with the alliance defending freedom now helping so many of the ministries organizations with key legal questions friends back since 1983 Joe, I want to grab some calls 866-34-TRUTH for those who want to get through but right before we do that, briefly, can you share what recourse someone might have even if their own company. Aside from the government says you must get vaccinated to work here so you work for government or private employer. If you have government action in some form that could involve comp additional protection. There might be somebody state constitution number of states. For example, have political religious Freedom restoration act. About two thirds of the states, roughly, have either extra protection and their law constitution. Something like that if you've got that going to protect religious protection from government action, but most people that's not the case. Most work for private employer.

If that happens is going to be a more routine nightly routine for lawyer.routine for the person relation but the more routine profit of going to your employer and saying hey, I'd like a religious exemption from the thing that you're requiring that happens in a lot of cases people were told know you have to work on your seven Bay F4 religious exemption and the employment laws to just about every state typically say something like the employer must give a reasonable accommodation so that it becomes the standard okay what are you asking for what is it require me to do other alternatives.

So there's a lot of kind of waiting for thing that happened but what people could do is one look to see if you believe you should have a religious exemption, and number two look to see if you have a health exception.

Some people don't do well of vaccination you would want a note from your doctor. You have an adverse reaction for people who were in those situations, you gotta check state-by-state. You can either contact them attorney in your state or you contact my former place of the employment alliance defending freedom of a large network of alloyed attorneys. We tend to make referrals on these to try to get you pro bono assistance for things like religious exemption, so there are options to not without options.

All right, let's let's go to some calls David in Dallas wrong with John Franklin.

Yours truly, go ahead.

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I got it back on deck in your yelp or good though I get the good news on the thing might be auctioning for me. I work for large employer on remote work. My home and here I thought that the extracted and even they have rule or efficacy had to be about 70% and you know this for safety. And it effectiveness. I think if proven to be neither that you take a rest. Short-term, they got no long-term risk are and many people don't have much of it ever correct, but I go people personally but for this just just just yeah so just for time sake the did you have a specific question that we could help you with.

We love to do that though, I guess if I get basically you have to take vectoring or you have to quit or you have to get Your standards. Another option to to request some kind of intervention that what I heard. Well David, good to speak with you when I put this what you're in Texas which is a very friendly faithful religious protection. By the way, what it comes down to is this if your employer mandate to get the vaccination with no other choice, then you can ask for a religious exemption if it violates your faith.

This is a tricky question that has to legitimately be an elf and active faith for you and not to something like she I don't trust the science if you rest you have a religiously informed objection to get a religious exemption you have to say yes, and there were reasons for that.

There were aborted baby fellows used in the process developed some of the breath faxing that all the various things I won't go into but if you have a religious objection. You can save your employer had like to take advantage of the employer will sometimes offer you option okay instead of the vaccination get a covert test once a week.

While that might be an okay compromise Ford with the pan I thought was going to depend through on what you do and how many people that are the courts engage in balancing.

If you are a surgeon and you're working in a hospital with thousands of employees, you're going to have a tougher time making the case if you're if you're working remotely from home and that's most of your work.

The employer is going to have a tougher time saying you should not be given a religious accommodation because you really not even a position where your infecting other people of the kind of affect sensitive inquiry. I would say you have a pretty good chance of getting a religious exemption. If you have that believe you can familiarize yourself with some of the great religious reasons against this. You know look on your Canadians website again. There were some resources on that for people sample letters talking about types of religious exemption, but you would need something more than it than simply a I don't feel like taking it because I don't want it. I don't trust right, yeah, follow Jesus. I just don't trust the stuff like that that would qualify as religious exemption so so friendless, go to the ADF last of anything website and and you can look therefore examples of legitimate religious exemptions and see if in fact you fall in those categories of this go to Sean and Sean is gone. Let's go to David and Matthews, North Carolina. Welcome to the line of fire. Thank you, how you doing fine thanks look at the work plan by their rule, they created how she created their direct there's no conspiracy theory on that he created it.

He still in charge you're talking about playing night in the sandbox and following their full what you may have an opportunity to get out of the vaccine could the debtor that we can just say no Rosa Park. It was Blodgett that she had been in the back of the pot that no because the long run night market. We are going for the sake of time-limited cutting here. I know this week was dedicated to legal questions and issues you're getting more into some of the questions I think they'll come up next week. Evaluate another interesting question which is is there a time that Christians could engage in civil disobedience, and your venue given for that sort of tricky question of balancing the sort of Romans 13 the obedient civil government versus the time that you know the government is intruding on your ability to practice your faith, the time to find in Scripture where civil disobedience is permitted, but it is there a specific legal question yeah yeah I have Joe just because of his initial statement this this last statement that Dr. found she created the virus which even if it was man-made in the lab in Wuhan to see Dr. found she created his is a sufficient overstatement that I don't want to give more airtime to that yes oh yes and just as this, though Joe in the matter of civil disobedience. Okay, it's the same as a religious exemption you have like Peter is saying in acts we must obey God rather than man in another words, this would stop me from obeying God. So you mentioned the issue say aborted fetuses used in the development of at least one or more the vaccine, so not all of them, but that issue what about the idea that my body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and I have concerns that I'm putting something unhealthy into the template with that qualifies religious exemption, potentially potentially the most common argument I hear you after the euro after the people felt if you make that argument here is where it gets tricky. Moyers say all you have to do is make it fine.

Others say that I'm probably more in this camp. Others that you open yourself up to a interesting line of question including things like older you ever get a flu vaccination as a Christian you you eat Oreo cookies yeah for you all. Do you drink alcohol right so then you're going to have to have some kind of kid.

Then framework in order to justify that.

I think it is possible I think you could say yes I've had other vaccinations. I won't have vaccination. Anyway, you know were contributed by the abortion industry. I think you could come up with a with an okay argument. The other path is that the lease present a cognizable legal issue, but I think you know I cam about the limits of civil disobedience. When you look at Peter and John example you cited for the fan header and you look at the end of the Israeli midwives of the Israelite midlife would not kill the newborn children. You know or three Hebrew children to think about athletic image committees are more direct right worship in a way take life or something like that. How much those get you through the 30 think the examples we hear more commonly with the vaccine is a debatable question but I'm not foreclosing there could be an argument like this. I know you got a run in a minute. Your view on if this gets to the Supreme Court, which seems very likely, just got a minute how you think it would be decided.

I think I think they strike it down.

I think that they potentially uphold the federal employees have that but this Supreme Court is strong, a very strong strong tendency to not allow the president of the executive branch to pick a shortcut, we saw that recently. If remember what the eviction moratorium by issue that Executive Order Supreme Court struck it down. You you cannot take executive orders of shortcut for legislative policies require study that require you acts of Congress. I think the Supreme Court strikes this down easily with a McCoy bear replacing you now replacing Justice Ginsburg I think usually they say no, this is something of a going to come on the federal level and what I've been saying it full out there but if it does gotta be from Congress present budget cannot take shortcuts. It implicates some of the arguments to it may force people to give up constitutional rights. You know if they received Medicare or Medicaid got a cluster of issues. I put the odds of being struck down by the Supreme Court. It 90% height as a sober mind is missing on angels. Thanks so much for helping us and God bless you for helping something is right back six more calls in your best.

It's the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 66343 here again is Dr. Michael Brown thanks friends for joining us again the Wednesday broadcast plan to have on Dr. Jonathan surf out the he is a young earth creationist so I absolutely believes the authority of Scripture may have different conclusions about the age of the earth, and he does, but that he's obsolete Bible based. He's brilliant with the chess champion of New Zealand years ago PhD in chemistry is pro-vaccine against the mandates he's going beyond the present why he believes the vaccines are safe, but to take your questions to two so this really a great data calling. If you have real issues, even if it's just for yourself.

You want air for others this many great times to welcome your calls and questions on Wednesday in the back to the phones do my best with my limited legal knowledge to talk to some of these issues with you, but I asked John Franco, because of his expertise before doing that before doing that if you missed the announcement the beginning of the broadcast.

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In terms of friendliness towards religious exemptions so unless you have a real health issue where your doctor can say you have had issues with with vaccines in the past and therefore he recommends you not get them if it's a religious exemption.

Depending on the state that you're in you going to get different results. Are they open to religious exemptions. Do you have a genuine religious exemption or suggest I will get the vaccine out of Christian science and a mythology sister.

That's not a religious exemption so go to the alliance defending freedom website ADF website alliance defending freedom and then search for info here. This also number. Call if you want to find out specifically about your own state. There's just a general intake number there.

That's the one thing. As for how long it would take what John Franco said is first OSHA has to officially implement this with the rules then the witch would take a matter of weeks, then the states will immediately fight it, and he feels it could get to the Supreme Court quickly so you're talking potentially within a couple of months.

He believes 90% that the Supreme Court will strike it down as an overreach of the president's authority.

But again the bigger question is if your own company has made a decision then that that becomes a bigger issue that you have to have to face and for subsequent risk of accident was the big deal they sitting at vaccinated.

No problem. Others would say no. I release my job again these are individual issues that have to be worked out.

Let's see, let's go to Jim in Greensboro. Time is short so dive right in sir.

Okay, one of the possibility of the United States is to defend the people of the state to get on and domestic and my question is that the president apostolic to treat the COBIT 19 pandemic at the domestic and that's a fascinating question Jim and I gladly got your client from everything I heard John Franco say earlier in the broadcast, the answer would be no that according to my understanding of what he'd said in terms of precedent, the answer would be no that that an enemy would be an actual human entity as opposed to a virus. Now what if you said, but we know the virus was manufactured in Wuhan in a lab by China and has been released as a bio weapon and are you fighting Chinese bioterrorism.

I think even with that stretch the answer is still no but again, that's a great question task could there be something to present it.

If it was a physical threat with human beings and would then be government overreaching and what would be for the good of the people. Let us pray for wisdom for everyone involved. Thank you Jim for asking. It let us pray for wisdom for everyone involved. Let us pray that those under pressure, either as an employer, for ye have wisdom this pray for God's grace is America that we fall on our knees and ask God for his mercy. That's the biggest bless what is good.

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