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The following program is recorded content created by the Truth Network. A lot of people today seem to have a real problem with the God of the Old Testament is the same as the God of the New Testament stage for the line of fire with your host activist all the international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience have president of fire school of ministry get into the line of fire valves like always 866-34-TRUTH that's 866-34-TRUTH your Jim is Dr. Michael Brown digging to the Scriptures today to tackle some tough questions and is conjunction with my newest book coming out.

It is actually a new addition revised and updated edition of the book that I wrote my first book actually in 1985, and it's going to be printed very soon a beautiful new hardcover edition and up to you more about that as we go on the title of the new book, or the old book made new updated for our contemporary audience is compassionate father consuming fire, engaging the God of the Old Testament.

Now, if you have a specific question today, in particular about the God of the Old Testament things about the God of the Old Testament that seemed different than the God of the New Testament or things that people shared with you. Maybe your kids or others coworkers are not believers and say I like the God of the Old Testament. For this reason or that reason, he seems different than Jesus.

Give me a call.

What do my best to answer as many of your questions as possible. If you have general questions, that's fine. 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 87884 general questions about the Old Testament, that's fine, but specifically some of these challenging issues. Some of these places where it seems as if the God of the Old Testament is different than Jesus, the God of the Old Testament is somehow petty or vindictive genocidal as some would claim again 866-34-TRUTH they can be your own questions or questions that you've heard from others. Maybe used to be a follower of Jesus in your listening or watching now and you no longer are. And this is one of the things you struggle with the God of the Old Testament maybe never believed and this is why your issues. Why would I want to follow God like that.

By all means give us a call okay let me start again with the famous quote from atheist Richard Dawkins. It was part of his mega best selling book the God delusion. Let's look at what Dawkins said again, this is this is a well-known quote and it's been posted over and over again."

It over and over again. He said the God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction so there in his judgment the Bible is fiction God. The Old Testament is hardly the most unpleasant character in all fiction jealous and proud of it, a petty, unjust, unforgiving control freak vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser, misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal philia Seidel pestilential megalomania megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully now.

On the one hand, rhetoric like that is so over the top that disqualifies itself to many others however think is accurate. I recently debated atheist former evangelical now for many years.

Atheist activist Dan Barker and we talked about does the God of the Bible exist. So of course he was going to launch an attack on the God of the Bible whom course he does not believe exists. That debate will be airing should be next week on the awakening TV network a WK and G brand you can get a trial run on it and check it out for yourself but Dan Barker took the Dawkins statement and then wrote a book where he put together verse after verse that in his mind supported it. Each of these claims supported this malevolent ugly picture of God, read through Psalm 103.

I want to present a very different picture and I want to read through this Psalm and and say this is another portrait of the God of the Old Testament. This is another picture of the God of the Old Testament. How do we reconcile these or could be that Dawkins is massively misjudging the God of the Old Testament before we get to Psalm 13, I remember being unsafe teenager and going to the high holy services with my parents. This would be the time when we would go to the synagogue as a family and I remember reading through the prayer book.

If you've never been to a synagogue of service. It's it's liturgical and there's a lot of reading where okay everyone I read this together. All read the silently pray this prayer out loud, responsive reading civil read people respond and there were times okay now the read these these prayers or read these pages in the prayer book and enter or that the pages that they're all filled with praises to God and and and God speaking. All these things about himself and I remember as a lost kid is a rebel as a nonbeliever victim of this God is really on an ego trip in a look at what he says about himself this time that I'm good. I'm holy and compassionate unrighteous.

And then we're supposed so you will praise you praising so understand. Looking from the outside. How can simplicity it's almost 373101 read this through out loud. Bless the Lord all my soul and all that is within me, bless his holy name. Bless the Lord all my soul and forget not all his benefits, who forgives all your iniquity, who heals all your diseases redeems your life from the pit, who crowns you with steadfast love and mercy, who satisfies you with good so that your use is renewed like the Eagles, the Lord works righteousness and justice for all who are oppressed.

He made known his ways to Moses is asked to the people of Israel, the Lord is merciful and gracious, slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love. You will not always try, nor will he keep his anger forever. He does not deal with us according to our sins. The repass according to our iniquities. For as high as the heavens are above the earth, so great is his steadfast love toward those who fear him his first the east is from the west, so far this, he removed our transgressions from us as a father shows compassion to his children, so the Lord shows compassion to those who fear him, for he knows our frame, he remembers that we are dust. This remands days like grassy first, like a flower the field for the wind passes over and gone, and displays knows no more.

The steadfast love of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting on those who fear him as righteousness to children's children, to those who keep his covenant and remember to do his commandments. Lord has established a strong in the heavens and his kingdom rules. Overall, this the Lord will use angels, you mighty ones who do his word obeying the voice of his word. Bless Laurel his hostess ministers who do as well.

This little his works in all places of his dominion.

Bless the Lord, O my soul.

Now think of this this picture of God being long-suffering being compassionate, treating us the way.

Father treats his children understanding our weakness. Understanding our frame working righteousness on the earth and elsewhere in the Old Testament is pictured as the father of the fatherless is the husband of the widow is the one who hears the cry of the poor and the oppressed, and then he tells Israel as his people Israel came out of slavery in Egypt say now you have compassion on the foreigner you have compassion on the slave because you were slaves in your foreigners in Egypt so is it that the God of the Old Testament is somehow schizophrenic and that he smiling blessing. Happy one.

The next days just maligning people accuse them of all kinds of things and destroy none, like an alcoholic father and the kid comes home does note that the desk in a huggable puncheon hey come on over here and you know know because he's these two different people is that it and him and were the authors and editors of the Bible was to put things together in a certain order in and come and compile things of their final forms were were they so ignorant of this that they couldn't see the schizoid behavior of this deity, or these completely different pictures or could it be that people like Richard Dawkins, Dan Barker and other critics looking at things completely wrongly that they're missing the aspect of judgment coming on the wicked that they're missing the aspect on God's goodness and God's righteousness and God's faithfulness being manifest compassion and long-suffering, kindness to those who fear him and honor him and wants to live for him and he is extremely patient and long-suffering with them and at the same time, his goodness, faithfulness and righteousness require him to bring judgment on the wicked and judgment on the godless and that we do reap what we sow. Let me ask you question. Let's say you've got a dear friend of yours.

This person say it's it's a married man with three kids, and he comes home one day and to his absolute horror to his devastating heart to the point of complete physical collapse. He sees that his wife and children have been murdered in cold blood and then finds out the autopsies that they've all been sexually abused and then the man responsible for this is caught in any suicide did before I do again.

I felt like it and it felt good though was and tell me what to do. The judge sentences him to life in prison without parole is found guilty on all charges. Since the life in prison without parole. You find out. Actually, that he is been a serial rapist and killer responsible for 10 other atrocities and finally he is been caught when the judge sentences him to life in prison without parole. Are you sitting there thinking what a heartless judge with cruel judge when you read the verdict in your paper. You think about your poor friend who's lost everything and all these other families have lost so much the victims that suffered so much. His thinking. What's with this judge wisely so cruel note to the contrary, if he said look you probably have a rough upbringing. Your father was mean to you. Let's get you some counseling. You know, behind bars just for year to think about it it's not every outrage, corrupt judges that the legal system is this so we recognize the importance of judgment and justice could be just not recognizing it. When God is the judge carrying it out or using his people to carry out judgment against wicked nations friends their answers for these questions what your questions about the God of the Old Testament were just getting started, 8664 is so important to leaders and they also behind the number by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown veterans for joining us on the line of fire, 866.

Your questions about the God of Old Testament so 1985, I was finishing up my doctoral dissertation and get my PhD from New York University and near Eastern languages and literatures. My sister-in-law who'd been miraculously healed few years before that at a time when I did not believe in divine healing so I can't resist her testimony. Nancy sister didn't healed and she was now in a ministry school and getting a lot of teaching about the word lot. It was good, edifying and helpful, but there are other things that raising questions for her.

She was being taught that retelling the Old Testament were God said he would smite someone to destroy someone to put sickness and disease on them. If you understood the Hebrew you know that there is a different Hebrew sensor they call the tense tense list with time of being used and that it was a permissive sense.

So when God said, I'll put sickness on you. It meant I will permit sickness to be put on you or I will smite you with it meant.

I will let you be smitten because in their view of God was the healer than it put disease of success on anyone and she asked me about a said no that's not the process. The reset is with the mistranslation say that God said he would do it. There was a data through an angelic intermediary her or however he took responsible. He said I'm doing.

Deuteronomy 3239 were God says I am the Lord, right note. No one else but me I kill I make alive. I wound I heal someone who doesn't so she said what about the book of Job.

I've heard this that Joel was smooth walking fear. That's where this happened or spoke against God.

That's why this happened to a more married the wrong woman that's in a suite house. No, no notice of Job is about so I began to write her letter, answer your questions and the letter became my first book, which you met 1995 compassion father consuming far.

Who's the God of the Old Testament was the subtitle and get that's a lot of people over students use it, helpful, and then we stopped distributing it. Quite a few years ago and and basically it's been unavailable and couple years back I started thinking about it and looking at it I thought so many these questions keep coming up so many of these issues keep coming up at an believers are struggling with the God of the Old Testament, especially younger people, maybe I should update the book make some revisions add some material to it because it's it's a short read. It's it's on the lawn every week and and then begin to work on it and then a new publisher reached out to me and said hey were interested in putting out one of your books are sublime.

Thinking of doing a new edition of this what you think this is wonderful. And when they went through it and and I'm just been candid with when their editors went through it. They started writing while all these great quote while what great insights this is so rich I thought cool site.

I wasn't expecting that enthusiastic response so we got a coming out is is not a big read in the Lewis is not hundreds and hundreds of pages but it's been put out in like a coffee table format really really nice hardcover really beautifully printed so you can preorder that but as a gift to you. When you preorder from the website it will be signed and numbered so it's kind of a collectors item when it comes off the press also were adding a DVD where I go through the origins and history of the book and then take you through each chapter in more depth. So it's an accompanying teaching video for free she can order a website ask Dr. Brown's K DR Brown.Ward, and the title of the second edition compassion father consuming far who is the God of the Old Testament.

Now in my hyper grace book I dealt with those who rejected the God of the Old Testament, or made him a lower deity or downgrade the importance of the Old Testament.

I took issue couple years ago when when Andy Stanley unwisely said we needed to unhitch from the Old Testament and and he got on the air with me and said hey wrong choice of words. I love the Old Testament support. So we talked that through the subsidy mortar to talk through is is is book came out on a similar subject in and we've we've dialogued about that since and then a lot of this goes back to the early church, leaving the Marciano died in 160 and he went heretical. He was an influential church leader who began to say, the God of the Old Testament is different than the God of the New Testament than than the God and father of the Lord Jesus.

Therefore the Old Testament should be discarded, and over the centuries, there have been various movements among scholars of Christian leaders where they have downgraded the God of the Old Testament of the Old Testament itself and the fact that this could be one more example then will go back to the Scriptures that will take your calls, 866-34-TRUTH. Look at this quote. This was, I want to mention that the gentleman's name responsible for because I don't know where he is in the Lord right now. If he's solidly walking with the Lord or not, but that this is this is what he wrote and interacted with the person said no.

I hold to the sword. We what we published in the it's and hyper grace at the risk of sounding critical is it remains a sad reality that the Bible Society chose to combine the old and new Testaments into one single book not of course, aside from it being an absolute horrific sentence. Unbelievable sentence for Christian to write ups. It was smooth very very poor foundations or already in heresy result, there is a Bible Society it's 20 chose to combine the old new Testaments at one single book but look at this this single decision has caused widespread confusion within the ranks of believers throughout the world is in many of the writings in the Bible before the cross portray God to be a harsh cool being set on destroying and punishing people if they dared to disobey the set of Boston is represented by the 10 Commandments and the other walls, saying people really struggle with this God of the Old Testament and does love damage because very different than the God of the New Testament on your talking about heretical statement.

Okay, so there are people who hold to this and if they don't articulate that that they are close to it and the fact of the matter is that that if you build a two-story house right you build a two-story house.

When you finish building it don't knock out the first story was a second-story collapses.

The New Testament is built on the old.

The old adage that that the New Testament is the Old Testament revealed the Old Testament is New Testament concealed the entirety of New Testament is built on the foundation of the Old Testament the promises to Israel. God is the creator and ruler of all things, the promised Messiah. And in fact, even the idea of Old Testament is is a misnomer.

There is an old covenant that the new covenant writings reference but you can speak of the Hebrew Scriptures and the Greek Scriptures, or you can speak about that the first estimate and the second testament and even old and new, can give you the idea that that all it's passé no with without that revelation that we have in the pages of the Hebrew Scriptures. There is no New Testament, there is no Messiah.

There is no promise to the nations. None of that whatsoever.

So we discard the Old Testament at at our own absolute risk and remember that Jesus says very plainly that that this is his father, the God of the Old Testament is his heavenly father, whom he dearly love will open up some Scriptures about the slaughter of the Canaanites about other ethical issues. First let's go to the phones 866-34-TRUTH starting with Nate in Greenville, South Carolina welcome Kalama higher, a Dr. Brown hater and question for you. Yeah I was wondering if you can, speak to the end there. There you passed it in the Old Testament that talk about how God would get down a judgment or he would seem to set out a plan and in come time for that plan to happen the word of God would say that you relented or repented of the of what he was about to do. Why would a God who knows everything is all-powerful decide to change his mind right so he explains that's great questions. Of course, especially when when the text will use things like God relented, or even translate with with repented that that was, that would not be the right word to use. Speaking of God, but certainly relented, so she knew it was going to happen in advance while you relent well. The simple answer that we look at what he says in Scripture, but the simple answer is that it is only by him proclaiming judgment and promising judgment that the people repented and turn from their evil which then gave him the the perfect right to say okay because you have repented and are making things right. I will not bring the judgment on you. It would be like if you told your children know they been really got little kids they been irresponsible to make a mess in the room and they haven't been cleaning up and stuff you say okay listen that's it. You don't get things in order and and you can't go over to the sleepover next weekend, whenever you know come back three minutes later they got everything cleaned in perfect shape and makes they stay like that's like okay you can go so let's look in Jeremiah chapter 18 Jeremiah chapter 18. Jeremiah goes to that the house of the Potter and he watches him ready. He makes a piece of pottery is not happy with it so destroys stress another respond in the word Lord Kingsmill house of Israel, can I not do with you as this potter has done, declares the Lord. Behold, like the clay and the potter's hand, so are you in my hand, the house of Israel. If at any time. I declare concerning a nation or kingdom that I will pluck up and break down and destroy it. And if that nation concerning which I've spoken turns from its evil. I will relent of the disaster that I intended to do it.

If at any time. I declare concerning a nation or kingdom that I will build implanted if it does evil in my sight that listening to my voice and I will relent to the good that I intended to do it now therefore say to the men of Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem, thus says the Lord.

Behold him shaping disaster against your devising a plan against you return everyone from his evil way and amend your ways and your deeds, God St. judgment is coming. You deserve it. The people repent, the turn back to God. They humble themselves, and based on that he let us know he knows is coming in advance, advanced however he will if he just knew it was coming in advance and give us give us the chance to respond with their beer response, so he knows what's coming. Advanced base with he says what we do and how he was the light a fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown get into the line of fire now by calling 86. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown there some breaking news today if not her midst of all of sexual allegations about your governor and Cuomo and Atty. Gen.'s office finding him guilty of these things were charging him with these things. He has now resigned. Pres. Biden called for his resignation. So if you haven't followed that.

That's the story of a listen.

It's easy throw stones at them. This mission of these is down, but let's first remember again victims people who were traumatized people who were hurt by him. Let's remember this is the sexual harassment victims, but the terribly misguided plan where elderly people with covert were shipped out of hospitals to nursing homes to make room for younger patients that ended up not filling the hospitals but either way, this created now up a plague of an epidemic on the worst level in the nursing homes with many many fatalities that many argue with would never have happened if not for this misguided policy in the heat of the moment people make decisions but these were horrific so there were many casualties in the midst of all this, but for Gov. Cuomo may he humble himself and rather than just fight and try to come back in the day. May he humble himself and learn a lesson for everybody is all he was flying high.

Even gets what an Emmy award for his press conference. Something like that, you know, just he was the man untouchable. His dad was governor's brothers CNN store come crashing down and be disgraced can happen to anyone. Therefore, let him let her thinks that they stand take heed lest they fall other breaking news just discovered this a moment ago. Robin is in Batman is raw and Robin comes out as bisexual latest example of moral and cultural insanity.

The war on our children what what else to expect these days.

Got transgender superheroes and although just role models. That's the liberal line armor some years ago and I'm getting back to the Old Testament get back to the God of the Old Testament in the moment.

If you have a question about the God of the Old Testament, the nature, the God of the Old Testament things that the Scripture say about another puzzling to give McCall 866-34-TRUTH.

We do this in conjunction with my new book, the revised, updated, beautifully produced addition of compassion father consuming fire, engaging the God of the Old Testament.

By the way I mentioned earlier in the broadcast that those pre-ordering for a website. Get a DVD exits but you get an instant video download so you have access to that of DVD player or know you get that that'll be instant so that that's being released, the book should be out sometime later this month and again you can preorder #copy with the free video in addition to that the website Esther Gibran ASKDR Brown.are always stray. Okay, it's a link to a stream. I get right I get it right eventually. This third time we get right this time. So you can link you just watch booms enough to download megabytes gigabytes whether okay got it some stuff I got that right. Please so because folks in every department contacted Noto it's X okay we get it right here. There we go, big sums of thanks thanks for compassion guys. Okay, so back to the God of the Old Testament back to the God of the Old Testament people struggle in and say look, just picture this, the slaughter of the Canaanites to just picture this, such as killing the men, men, women and children. How can you justify how could that ever be justified. Your you're one of those warriors out there. You're one of those sent out by got this.

Isn't that just like Isis. What they did and in with this be more like that the murderous all law of the radical Islamic terrorists than the God we love and worship and serve spherical a very fair question.

Slowly tackle it. Compassion father consuming far below.

We also tackle it from some other angles in the book has God failed, which cannot may so we tackle those things there right so so let's take a look in Genesis chapter 15 Genesis chapter 15 unit look@netbible.org because it's got company notes that are helpful as well.

This is the NET new English translation. Given the context God is making a promise to Abram promising the land of Canaan to him and it's a a one-way covenant on only God is active in. This will enable himself to sleep says in verse 12 when the sun went down.

Abram fell sound asleep and great terror overwhelmed. Then the Lord said to Abram know for certain that your descendents will be strangers in a foreign country. They will be enslaved and oppressed for 400 years, but I will execute judgment on the nation that they will serve in Egypt afterward. They will come out with many possessions. It is for you. You go to your ancestors in peace and be buried in the good old age. In the fourth generation which is the NET notes explain his term being used in its widest sense to refer to a full lifespan so you're talking basically 400 years of of bondage. So generation here in the sense of 100 years fourth-generation your descendents will return here for the sin of the Amorites has not yet reached its limit since he notes explain Hebrew is not yet complete, the sum of the Amorites is not yet reach this limit the justice of God is apparent he will went to the Amorites are fully deserving of judgment before he annihilates them and gives the land to Israel. Okay, let's think about what we just read. How much did the Israelites suffer in Egypt may be a senior 10 commands movie. If you're familiar with the opening chapters of Exodus they suffered. They were slaves they were in bondage they are in servitude whole families and everyone was born into slavery and this went on for generations. The Israelites went down the children of Jacob to the resume went down free of repute, of years they became slaves and they were worked hard and was torturous and it was terrible yeah drag Don on and on. Why is the promised land wasn't ready yet. Why because the people living there weren't guilty enough yet they were guilty very guilty extremely guilty horrifically guilty but not quite yet at the limit of destruction and judgment. So even though it cost Israel being enslaved. Even though God's people are to suffer, which then taught them certain lessons about God's faithfulness to deliver and then God gave gave the Lord a good reason to judge Egypt the way he judged Egypt and miraculously bring that so he worked out everything for good, but to humans living here. It such as the snap of the fingers. Anyway, didn't think of this. It was a 400 year. Each of our patients is about long-suffering that that's if if if America begins as a nation. And since 1776 I we went to 400 years old. Okay were not nearly 400 years old if you're just about that the very first pilgrims getting over it. Such a so that we just passed 400 years of that that is a long time but that's how long God waited until the sin of the Canaanites had reached a certain level and then he said now bring judgment and according to the Scriptures, the people can debate how much we archaeologically how much background there is, but what the Scriptures plainly tell us is that God did not give the land to Israel because of Israel's goodness, but because of the wickedness of the Canaanites and the peoples living there and that they were guilty of all kinds of sexual perversions, and they were guilty of all types of sins, including sacrificing their own children idols and burning them in the fire. This is according to the witness of the Hebrew Bible you will find it.

For example the end of Leviticus 18 God says that the land of Canaan vomited them out because of their guilt vomited them out because of their wickedness, so, so this is this is what's laid out plainly in exhibit iced okay. I still don't get slaughter of men, women, children are no anonymous slaughter. Many end up remaining Israel did not subdue them and they just now served Israel. Others fled Israel was called to drive them out. Others were killed. Now some of claimed that most of the cities were fortress city so the people there were many soldiers and warriors in and in the idea of men, women and children is a bit of hyperbole and overstatement and standard rhetoric from the ancient Greece.

The way you talk about completely wiping people out it didn't actually mean everyone knew the Langston actually mean that let us take it literalistic that it literally meant that how could that be justified well. One answer is that there are now DNA studies that are done that claim that the children cannot only inherit the the bad physical traits from their parents and look you know for example if if a woman is is an alcoholic all through her pregnancy. Her child can be born deformed because of terrible physical suffering because the mother's alcoholism or children can be born addicted. If the mother is an addict with the mother and father have certain traits and tendencies. Those can be passed out. There are studies now that indicate that other traits moral traits and things like that could be passed down as well on that expert enough to comment on that part. But I've said, I've read studies that seem to be being discussed by recognized psychologists and an scientist sing of this is the solution we really look at if that was the case then this would be a matter of of destroying those that would've risen up with the same wickedness as their parents and not only so from a biblical point of view, these children because they had not acted these things out and live them out yet. As far as I understand Scripture would go straight to the presence of God because they were not yet accountable and therefore even though they would die in this world we live in the world to come. Others have argued that the Canaanites were descendents of the new feeling.

That's where they were large in stature that they were half breeds. Basically, that they were the result of angelic beings falling and taking on human form and having sexual relations with women and out of that produce this race of giants, many from wiped out at the flood, just six but others lived on those who believe that that this was God's way of exterminating this race of half breeds that were destructive and godless. Either way the Bible presents things and said God waited 400 years to do it until it was absolutely married Emily did it. If we were standing there.

We say this is the right thing. This is the righteous thing. How is it waited so it's the line of fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown is something really interesting about the Old Testament. It has within it its own protest has within it its own questioning skeptical torture has within it is one. Old Testament scholars said forms already filled out if you want to issue a complaint against God. In other words, God inspired his children to write certain things or you could say God allowed his children to go on certain journeys of of of skepticism of questioning of challenging in order to bring them to a place of deeper trust but not only so, but to preserve their words for you is hot on the whole it's like, it seems just like everything is his chance. You know your son loves the Lord godly and dine freak accident or some ungodly person icing. They have nine lives that just doesn't make any sense. And here you know the sweetest person I know you know they dive covert in this other person like a blast from words mean-spirited.

They get covert now they're back to find this make any sense to seems like random stall rent won't read Ecclesiastes that that's in the Bible that that time and chance happens every month.

That's that's the way it seems. Ecclesiastes basically takes on the journey of like everything's but nothing has any meaning it's it's worthless.

It's useless when generation comes alliteration goes insist the sales cycle and just work your life or something and then your kid inherits that Nick is a jerk and squanders it all.

And what's the use of anything.

Ecclesiastes takes you on that journey and then says no, actually here's here's a conclusion that afflicted the soul thing for God keep his commandments, is the whole duty, but this is the whole person we have the book of Job. Of course we talked about that much as a written commentary on and I get into Job in the new book compassion father consuming fire engaged in the God of the Old Testament again. You can preorder it with a free video stream link on Esther to Brown.org we go to be getting the books in stock over the next a few weeks getting them right out to you, you find it super eye-opening and helpful in the ties in with a lot of the content has God failed to solicit these two books would go hand-in-hand really really nicely for yourself or for others who are struggling either coming out one on the heels of the other, but Job I mean here he is the perfectly righteous God. I'm in the, the one that God says is like a mother. God says that nobody like a mother and yet he was everything. What is at work.

First he super blessed this is righteous. Now we lose everything because he is righteous in God makes an agreement with Satan to test him. What is at work. The sunglasses are, and in the end, Job is doubly blessed and knows God the way he never would have before is much as he went through living hell and suffer the loss of everything, including his 10 children. When all is said and done, in light of eternity. Job will be a look at financial subsidy worth I am. I am a far better person for closer to God and have offered far more to four more people by going through that that by not going through.

It is not often the same general loss that the worst thing ever once or the thing that you absolutely do not ever want to go through again that the thing that you you would do everything you could to avoid going through again you have to admit it's best that went through with the I would not be who I am.

If I hadn't gone through that I would. I would not be where I am today if I had not gone through. Let me go with you. First Corinthians chapter 10 first Corinthians chapter 10).

Sibley was there, is that I do not want you to be unaware, brothers, that her fathers were all under the cloud, and all passed through the sea, and all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea, and all eat the same spiritual food all drank the same spiritual drink, for they drank from the spiritual rock that followed them the rock was Christ there actually introduce traditions a talk about rock Little Rock accompanying Israel in the wilderness and we know of this rock in certain times with miraculous water and things like that an actual rock that struck and pulsing actually the rock was beside.

Nevertheless, with most of them, God was not pleased.

For they were overthrown in the wilderness now these things took place as examples for us that we might not desire evil as they did so these accounts, these judgments are also there to teach us and doesn't Jesus.

Jesus was even more strongly in the New Testament talk about the fire of hell.

If we disobey and it says Paul continues not be idolatrous to some of the Moors. It is written, the people sit down to eat and drink, and rose up to play. We must not indulge in sexual morality as some of them did in the 23,000 fell in a single day. We must not put the sides of the test to something did and were destroyed by serpents nor grumble some of them did and were destroyed by the destroyer that these things happen to them as an example of their written down for us, upon whom the end of the ages has come, let's take a look in Romans chapter 15 verse four. Romans chapter 15 verse four. Look at what Paul says they are about the God of the Old Testament for whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction, that through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope.

God of endurance and encouragement grant you live in such harmony with one another in accord with Christ Jesus. Together you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Therefore, welcome another Christ is with me for the glory of God notices again for whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction through endurance and through the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope that the here's what's was really interesting throughout the Old Testament, God is presented as a consuming fire, and it even speaks of having Deuteronomy 424 Moses is for our God is a consuming fire a shot clock, our God is a consuming fire. What's fascinating is that Hebrews 1229 New Testament quotes that exact same verse for our God is a consuming fire whom so the God of the Hebrew Scriptures is the same as the God of the Greek Scriptures. The Old Testament, the New Testament, the first estimate the second test. Now if you want to phrase it.

Isn't that fascinating. The exact same verse quoted and then throughout the Old Testament, God is presented as a compassionate father is as a loving father is a long-suffering father is a merciful father is a tenderhearted father and throughout the New Testament. He's presented in the very same way and now is brought near to us through Jesus. Yeshua coming into the world referring to his father as Abba and outputting that same spirit in our hearts, but which we cry, Abba, father, now I've met so many believers over the years that struggle like I don't get it. How do I relate to God is looking fire when he's a consuming fire. Every picture that does just only give you some graphic image. This is blazing fire in human form setting: hold Muscat.

I'll keep my distance. Thank you.

I want be burned up as it is hot even being 1003. Throughout will be burned up.

Thanks but no thanks that that's the way some people conceive God and that's one reason that I wrote compassionate father or consuming far, engaging the God of the Old Testament was to help believers understand who this consuming fire was that he is a compassionate place okay you can tell me anything just repeat yourself will tell you everything okay.

So let's go a little deeper here when you are holy. When you have been washed with the blood of Jesus. The fire does not burn you or destroy you. You are in the presence of fire and you were untouched by the fire because you been cleansed by God.

And because the fire it doesn't burn or destroy it burns and destroys flesh. You are now not in the flesh, but in the spirit all of us who were not perfectly in the spirit and totally out of the flesh, but that is our spiritual stand that's what it says in Isaiah 33 answering the question who can dwell with the everlasting burnings is not saying Hook and Rachel Singh, who can be in the presence of God, the righteous can the righteous can so you can walk right into that and be embraced by love you see that same fire, but now it's burning love is the passion of his love. It's it's the fire of his goodness it's it's it's the blazing flames of his deep desire for you and and it it it. Look at it like this. Your your daddy are your three-year-old girl and your your daddy is a big strong football player I'm in is a monster of a man. He's 6 foot six and 330 pounds and and is is incredibly powerful and, and people in other professional football players are afraid of him because he is so strong and so tough, but he's always smiling Jill daddy's home and you come running and jumping his arms and hugs you and swings you in. Well, that's because you relate to have a certain way.

Now when you're 10 years old and he catches you in a serious line since July 2 daddy all he's very big and very strong and very imposing but see when everything is good with daddy because he's not fickle. He's consistent.

He's not the hot one day and blowing cold. The next run into his arms at an end. Then you get to note that he protects me.

My big strong daddy protects so if God is all powerful God judges the wicked is for us because of rejoicing.

That's because of security and it's a cause of holy living to say hey we love him and serve him.

We honor him but we don't play games with them.

The compassion fathers consuming fire fire have hope. Some of these things help some of you get into, but I hope you found another program powered by the Truth Network