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Who Is HaSatan in Judaism?

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Who Is HaSatan in Judaism?

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So what is Judaism think about Satan the devil stage for the line of fire with your host activist and author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown your voice of moral cultural and spiritual revolution Michael Brown is the director of the coalition of conscience and president of fire school of Ministry get into the line of fire now by calling 866-34-TRUTH. That's 866-34-TRUTH your again is Dr. Michael Brown (Jordan thoroughly Jewish Thursday broadcast this Michael Brown thanks for joining us. Here's a recall 866-34-TRUTH 866-34-TRUTH 8784 any Jewish related question you have of any kind in the area where you challenge me differ with me. The clarification phone lines are open. Also, we posted on our social media outlets. So on Facebook on YouTube on Instagram on twitter the latest in my series of videos demolishing the misinformation of Commissioner Rabbi Toby Singer. This one is claiming that that Paul deceptively claimed that he was trained in the godly L that he was a devout Pharisee, Rabbi Singer denies that.

So we present clear evidence of the error of Robison's position so we got our first four of those videos out. We've got a few more in the waiting and will be recording a bunch more gobbling in the days ahead summitry check that out. There's a lot of misinformation out there is a lot of material that sounds right into you dig deeper and that's our intent. Dig deeper get to the truth that some superficial snapshot.

Let's dig this fine out with the truth really says where the truth is really fouled because that's ultimately only only wants truth. What's the use of apparently being blessed by a liar, having apparently good life based on the line we want truth is one day that some offense can remain as truth, and we been standing on lies and false and deceptive son blown away either in this world of them stand before God. So I live 100% with every fiber of my being. As far as I'm conscious. I want God's truth. Wherever it leads. Whatever that means but the be your prayers. Well, something afraid of myself. Many many times the guy would give me the courage to follow him and his truth wherever it leads.

Regardless of cost or consequence and really know him and are intimate with him.

We realize that's all that matters is his favor, his blessing and his smile.

All right before I get into the subject matter that I want to talk about today in terms of God and Satan hustle Tom, the adversary, the accuser in Jewish thought forget there just one mention one thing briefly yesterday is broadcast is also about the canceled culture.

IAI made reference to life site news having all of their videos removed from YouTube.

They were just completely taken down the channel 300,000 subscribers removed, and there there are pro-life conservative Catholic pro-life new site, and there was no indication initially in their posts of what the charges were in and they were not directly notified of specifics, but ultimately it's they allegedly violated YouTube's rules about coronavirus posts, so maybe they question some of the politically correct things being said or that mainstream opinion or whatever put forth put forth alternative ideas. Don't know the details of it, but allegedly from what we could see they were not censored for being pro-life of the we shall see if there is equal treatment of them and and others.

In this regard, but Nicole did related so just wanted to mention that to you.

This just looking at see it. Let let me hate I have a question for us daily posting on the posting on Facebook once call microphone was open right now. 866-34-TRUTH 784 rather mockingly as a so-called messianic Jew Dr." this meant doctorate by the one I call you got so much that to say you you got such brilliant insights you can demolish my position scripturally.

I'm paying for the airtime you call and speak to her audience around the world. Go ahead, come on, please.

866-34-TRUTH tell me why I am so wrong. Oh by the way we give invitations.

I would say 1/1000 times. Maybe it's exaggeration when under 500 times we get people like you will into thick invitations: anyway anyway what happened today. Also in terms of the canceled culture, we have a separate video and article becoming out about that from MMA store and Hollywood TV actor, actress Gina Carano canceled fired from her role in this major TV show on the Disney Channel Amanda Lorient obviously bigamist really was, but probably very big and she had a post that was 12 cross the politically correct lines in reference Nazi Germany and things like that and it will get into that in the air now, but trust me, there is extreme hypocrisy in the canceled culture.

It basically goes one way and and ultimately it's it's it is the way of the PC leftist culture. That's the way it goes okay. What does Judaism say about Satan the devil. The devil does exist in Jewish thought, the devil is considered to be a powerful evil being in Jewish thought, but does not have the independence that you would say the devil has increased in the New Testament thought doesn't have the scope and power that Satan would seem to have in New Testament in Christian thought, so there is the existence of the devil, but he plays a different role.

Let's take a look first in the book of Job, Job, chapter 1 and we read a fascinating account. There tells us there is a man in the land of which the name Job is blameless and upright for your God shunned evil had seven sons and three daughters.

The account goes on to tell us his possessions were 7000 sheep, 3000 camels, 500 oxen from CS's very large household members wealthier than anyone in the East. It was the custom of the sons told feces on his day set in his own home. They invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them around the feast days was over. Job would send word to them to sanctify themselves rise early in the morning he would make burnt offerings and one for each of them for Job's thought press my children of sin and blaspheme God in their thoughts. This is what Job always used to do that he receives what he A/V bulb in there hello hello him. He got save all deny the oval got us atop a Telcom so one day the divine beings literally the sons of God, sons of Elohim translated new JPS version that divine beings so the sons of means having this particular nature, so have that they have that the heavenly nature. The nature of Elohim so wanted to divine beings presented cells before the Lord and the adversary hustle Tom came along with so it has the definite article the adversary.

In other words, it is not the Satan Satanism is a proper name, but he reset tolerance of the means adversary, and then secondarily accuser so hustle. Tom came along with them so he's among these divine beings, but he's separate from them.

But you my denial hustle Tom and the Lord said to the adversary, may I in trouble so where have you been heavy on the syntonic denied the adversary answered the Lord.

We only shoot the bar at summa. He collectible a been going around the earth scouting things out, going back and forth now. There are some who say that that was his role that that was his divine role to go, like a spy on the earth, but because he is presented as the adversary and and was a due revolution 12. He accuses the brother before the throne of God right so this is the very thing he's doing here he spaces to him I'm I'm checking out things on the earth, and out looks good to me.

Those looks looks. That's pretty evil to me is pretty wicked to me that's what's implied here in the Lord says to him, have you noticed my servant Job, there is no one like him on the earth. The blameless and upright man fears conscience evil, so that God is drawing attention to Job, and this whole thing is a larger plan and a larger purpose to get into in depth in my commentary on Job, Job face to challenge God with extraordinary experience to write a commentary on Job and works to the text. For many many years. So though the Lord himself brings Job to Satan's attention to Satan, scream at St. hey, I got things were I want the like the way things are in the earth Yep Yep nobody is really going after God knows really serving God and God knowing what Satan is alleging the adversary Satan is alleging says what about Job budget nobody like him on the earth and and the young hustle Tom that the other night and the Lord answered, excuse me in and in the adversary answered the Lord for you. Martin said a few knobs on the radio Elohim that does Job fear God for nothing is and the reason why it's you fenced them around him is household all that he has you blessed his efforts. This possessions spread out in the land below your hand upon all that he has and he will surely blaspheme you to your face. The Lord replied to the adversary.

See all that he has is in your power.

Only do not lay a hand on the adversary departed from the presence of the Lord. Okay, so that we know what happens in the verses that follow that all of us kids are killed all of his possessions are taken. It's one calamity after another after another, but he doesn't curse God. He praises God, the Lord gives the Lord takes away. Been the name of the Lord be praised, so the charge of the adversary that no one worships God just because of God's goodness and because of who God is and serves God out of out of love and reverence that the adversary's accusation is shot down because Satan is basely say look that they serve you. People serve you for the benefits, even this superstar Job you're pointing to Peter, Sirs, you could give a good life.

Take it all away and curse you, of course, God won't do that because Job's is not deserving to be smitten judged by God so God himself won't touch him, but in his providence allows the officer to do so. There are certain restraints that are put on him or he can only go so far you can't kill Job and then the sensing repeats itself and and God says remarkably to the adversary in the second chapter you're moving me inciting me to destroy him without a cause. While what a line what God says to the adversary. The emphasis is only a skin for skin to my soul lives. Those discovers health take that from him and accursed. God allows the adversary's mind against Satan who does that Satan who carries out these ugly attacks on people he allows them to do it and then this point boils a horrific condition torturous from head to toe is now on the dung heap is nothing is nobody his wife, either out of compassion, frustration either voices enough just curse God and die. We still hold out your integrity. Everything God commended him for God said to the adversary. He's holding onto his integrity… ~You still have your integrity, curse God.

I Joseph Utah click on the food from received good things from God.

Not that that with all this Job did not attribute folly Lord.

He did not speak evil of the Lord is extraordinary passage externally to chapters spent so much time in the commentary because it's so much going on, specifically tell us about how sometimes the adversary, the Old Testament you get from there to devil New Testament talk about that `your calls. Also, 866 number plan by the Expo line of fire with your host Dr. Michael Brown of your voice and more cultural and spiritual revolution. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown and and Alyssa's son. 21 days ago had to skip thinking of the dutiful Hasidic melody singing from the Psalm he keeps is really the slumber nor sleep in the every religious and devout Jew around the world praying for God's redemption.

God's forgiveness. God's mercy individually, corporately pray for the coming of Messiah. May their eyes be open to the full truth of God's love and God's goodness so before you go to your calls 866-34-TRUTH going back to Scripture. There is a constant in the Bible, which is that God is God, that even though he allows certain freedoms for his created agents, be they angels or humans that he still got there still boundaries.

There are still restrictions that human beings can only live so long, human beings can only do so much and there is obviously evil in people's hearts that the God restraints. Otherwise we would've wiped ourselves out as a race millennia ago. In the same way. Even the devil himself has certain restraints. First Peter five tells us he goes about his wrong line, seeking whom he may devour within Paul Wrightson in prescriptions 10 that that none of us have been subject to temptation beyond the regular bearing elements, God still puts protection around so assume just wipe us out. We be hit with temptation. We couldn't bear would be wiped out. The one kind of attack or another.

So there is real warfare regional battle and it God is not just allow things to go completely chaotic now in the book of Job, we see that God has a larger purpose and even though it seems in human and inhumane to allow what he allowed in the end produces something extraordinary. Job that he would never wanted exchange the words rather go through the cell to end up with relationship with God.

He had disabled about the loss of his children. That's the terrific. That's utterly horrific in his possessions restore double glycogen 10 more children with a hint that the other 10 will meet in the world to come be with them and you notice we have replace a lost child with a new child. So that's recognized in Scripture as well, such as gets 20 children that most be crass if that's all that was as if they were just what cattle of the possessions, but ultimately what comes out of Job's life in the message of Job ministries grace to hundreds of millions of people over the years and in that sense in the overall scheme of things, something that God said this will be worth it.

The overall benefit of the human race and for the glory that comes to God's name, but I just wanted give you a glimpse of what Judaism teaches about Satan okay this is this is not for me to give extensive critique right differ, but just to give you this insight. So from the Jewish encyclopedia, by the way, which is online it's it's a century-old political old and that Priscilla classic were Jewish encyclopedia survey looking something up one understand Jewish thought Jewish literature, Jewish history up until that point.

It's a great resource of let's look at what a two of the contributors say in the Jewish encyclopedia and just waiting for that text.

We may have a screen that is frozen or something. But here we go. So in in the Bible of it says the Satan is a term used in the Bible with the general connotation of adversary being applied to the enemy in war. So is there to be a human Setanta human adversary to accuser before the judgment seat so you know you've got somebody that's coming against you legally to any opponent was likewise used to denote an antagonist who puts obstacles in the way so adversary accuser. The angel of God is described as opposing bail him in the guise of Satan or adversary that the concept of Satan is a distinct being was not then known such a view was found.

However, in the prologue to the book of Job, Satan appears, together with other celestial beings are sons of God before the DD replying to the inquiry of God is to once he had come with the words from going to and fro throughout the earth, etc. so little words this the first time now that you see clearly in the Bible Satan is this independent agent as this celestial adversary, the one that later we come to know as the devil Satan in the New Testament. Okay, let's look in that same article and see what it says about how Setanta Satan in rabbinic literature in Talmud and midrash the angelology of the Talmud proves that, according to the older view until about 200 CE punishment was inflicted by angels, not by Satan in the course of time. However, official Judaism beginning perhaps with Jonathan does to submit other sort of the popular concepts of Satan, which doubtless force their way gradually, from the lower classes to the most cultured notice the popular beliefs became the mainstream believes the later midrash collection so collection of of Jewish kind of homiletical thoughts on Scripture. The later midrash collection, the more frequent is the mention therein of Satan. And so, so, older Jewish literature not as much. Once you get into later rabbinic literature more and more the Palestinian Talmud completed about 400 is more reticent in this regard and this is the more noteworthy since it's proving its meaning work comes from is the same as that of the New Testament, Psalm L, the Lord of the Satan's was a mighty prince of angels in heaven. Satan came into the world with woman so that he was created and is not eternal, like all celestial beings. He flies through the air and consume any forms of a bird, a stag woman, a bigger young man, etc. and then interestingly, since this he Satan in Judaism is the incarnation of all evil in his thoughts and activities are devoted to the destruction of man so that Satan, the impulse to evil.

So yes or hurrah. So Judaism is believed to have a lower nature to higher nature. So the evil inclination versus the good information so Satan in the impulse to evil, and the angel of death or one of the same personality.

He descends from heaven and these astray, then ascends and brings accusations against mankind receiving the divine commission. He takes away the soul. Another with the slaves he seizes upon even a single word which may be presidential commands that no one should not open his mouth onto evil times of danger he brings accusations while he is power over all the works of man.

He cannot prevail at the same time against two individuals of different nationalities that Samuel noted astronomer and teacher of the law will start on the journey only when Gentile traveled with him and saw you can look us up online. It's free Jewish encyclopedia just look up the word Satan. There and you'll find it easily. There is that one telematics saying that Satan comes down lead someone into temptation.

Then he goes up before God and accuses them at that's is a diabolical what hey hey watch to this you think sleep at this other woman even though you marry a steel this from the job you do this the moment person does it the same one that tempted the person goes up he forgot to get them when the weather is terrible. That is really diabolical nature, is it not they say will what is what is St. doing according to the New Testament. Is this this pulls the veil back tells us more of what's actually going on will know this power has been broken by the cross and by the resurrection of Jesus and that in Jesus. In Yeshua we have authority and power over the devil we extend at the same time we understand that there is warfare and attack and that were in a fallen world and that these bodies are ultimately fallen bodies and that we will not experience complete and total victory over Satan until he is utterly vanquished and destroyed. And that's the eternal age is bound during the millennial kingdom and then cast out forever suffering and and no demon, no devil, nothing like that in the world to come to attempt to pull us away, but we do have spiritual authority over him. We are not to be subject to him. We do not need to be slaves to fear the big bad devil's coming after us there is demonic hordes are coming after us. We know the war for Israel. We know the real battles in the heavenly's we know these things are not to be taken lightly. At the same time she was says the end of Matthew's gospel all authority in heaven and earth is given to me explains to his disciples in Luke the 10th chapter that is given them authority over all the power of the evil were told in Jacob James IV chapter that if we resist the devil, he will flee, and in first Peter five were told to to stand firm against his attacks and then a Revelation 12 he still doing what he's doing is making accusation that the how does he do that. That, and one of policy or for moment in the mood to go to calls and get to dispel the rest of the rest of the show. Take your calls want to think of this saints accuses brother right.

It's one thing to constructively criticize the say hey I take issue with this is unhelpful.

Let's fix this.

Let's be better accusation is is is pointing out fault with the goal destroying and hurting and in the exaggerating and even line that's that's what accusation does Satan does it, but often where his lips were his voice were his tongue in his mouth piece. The way we speak about each other on social media the way we attack really we freely post things we give our opinions week is demonic is really demonic.

It's ugly, it's wrong.

It's destructive and it's one thing to really be burden maybe think I'm wrong and summarily earlybird Lord help help Michael Brown to seize the Lord agreements the fullness of your blessing and truth, and so on. Hey you really think I'm wrong, something you praying for me. Wonderful is nothing wrong with that right it. It's another thing really that Mike Brown and Lord, you know he's this and exists and is it and it's just opinions and bias in all that that I can never pray like that. If I think you're dead wrong on something.

I pray redemptive prayers for I don't go before the throne of God and give a list of all the evil terrible things about you know if you're if I know for fact someone is destroying other people's lives. As a father you see you see what's happening. You see the life Lord restrain them from doing evil bring them into gusto.

Prayer prayer. That's redemptive prayer in the midst of it.

Let us not be choosers of the brethren in let's pray for relationships between United States and Israel. Pres. Biden has not yet called Prime Minister Netanyahu.

After month is not a call so we need to pray that relationship to God's purpose God's will will be right back with your calls. Here again is Dr. Michael Brown looking friends. 230 Jewish Thursday 845 minutes from now little less than that for 15 Eastern time will be continuing with our weekly exclusive YouTube Jennifer Durbin part of that or few part of it regularly. It's on the Esther to run YouTube channel. So ask a DR Brown make sure what you there. Just subscribes you don't miss any time we go live or post a new video so Esther could run YouTube and will go 45 minutes or an hour and I just respond to questions that you post right so that will be starting at 415 Eastern time or exclusive weekly YouTube chat and with that we go to the phone. Starting with Cindy in Des Moines, Iowa. Welcome to the line of fire. Thank you for taking my call. You will harm Minera Mary, I'm writing dialogue with you after I mentioned that Billy from the Godhead core doctrine became critical in the second century and he charged me saying that this was just a mom marginalized critical fact that believe that and I've been trying to find more in depth information on how or when you get the small group waited quite believe in between and discard what were the circumstances under which it actually became a heresy that okay we used it. Small group what was that it specifically that you're talking about.

Well, it's hard to believe in the Godhead during the drink, as they are meeting the Tanakh for Christ belief in the Godhead was a core belief or was it just a small heretical fact that actually right. So when you say I okay when trying to clarify music belief in the Godhead would specifically do you mean belief in the Trinity. Although break it or not right right right so that's there was no belief in a co-Trinity in in Old Testament times than explicit way. Rather, we could make strong arguments based on the Hebrew Bible that God is complex and is unity that he is ultimately try using as expressed in father-son spirit but they were definitely Jewish beliefs that looked. It will be called to powers in heaven were different aspects of manifestations of God and a good book to read on that is Alan Siegel to powers in heaven. It's it's it's well known by Jewish scholar, so that'll give you background into various Jewish beliefs that that might, you might say can build with those you can build a bridge from those beliefs to which Christians would believe and not so much the way it's fully articulated the creeds and things like that but just basic concepts do have my series on answering Jewish objections to Jesus are not.okay so volume 2 and I have some of these just individual videos that can be watched for free if you search another YouTube channel with volume 2. II devote a large section of that book to objections to the Godhead. The idea that God doesn't have a son, or the idea that God is not complex and is unity with the idea that that the rococo dish. The Holy Spirit is not a personal entity.

I devote a lot of time in volume 2 of answering Jewish objections to Jesus to demonstrate that there were Jewish concepts you mention the member so God expressed by his word or the word is a separate entity from God or the shooting, which is his manifest presence on the earth and yet is his divine yet separate from God and Jewish thought the shooting carry some of the feminine aspects of God and goes into exile with God's people and and and there are conceited you should pray for the reunification of God, meaning that Israel is fully restored from exile and then the screen was fully restored to God. Concepts like that. The sphere wrote the divine emanations of the 10 emanations which comes comes later in Jewish mystical thought but II get into all of those and and then go back into the Hebrew Bible itself, to see what it reveals and the angel of the Lord and things like that. In terms of demonstrating cots complex unity so volume 2 of my series answering Jewish objections to Jesus will give you a lot of info on that and then more specifically, just in terms of ancient Jewish beliefs. The ties with your question. Alan Siegel spoke to powers in heaven looking to those the plenty of good information for your Orthodox friend. Okay you are very welcome and again folks search my YouTube channel S. Dr. Brown got a whole series of videos there answering Jewish objections to Jesus and unify the website as well. Esther to Brown.org and then a whole class you can take a 22 hour class on counting the counter missionaries of all the info is on our website right. God bless thank you for the question, 86634 we go to Karen in Marksville, North Carolina. Thanks for calling the line of fire.

I enjoy your programs are much Dr. Brown question, I went for a number of years is why I had to choose been hated over to century.

I don't I don't understand that our neighbor is it because they were God's chosen people and if that were the case, God could've chosen some other group of people and the hatred would be shown today.

Home. I would say correct. So II agree with with your premise that there's something about the Jewish people being chosen by God and therefore singled out, which have made them objects of satanic attack and with that human attack and that is not so much about the Jewish people themselves for better or for worse, but about the fact that they were specifically chosen by God so I get into that a lot in my poker hands are stained with blood.

A chapter called a diabolical plot right talk about Satan's effort to wipe out the Jewish people and I go through the various theories that people have given as to why Jews have been hated around the world. The one idea as well.

You always have to have a scapegoat with her suffering and society that begs the question why does the Jews while they get scapegoated then others will choose because of practicing Judaism are different and people don't like was different true. But then I'd explain say Nazi Germany were the Jews were thoroughly German were where they were, in many cases more German than Jewish thoroughly assimilated in so many ways nonreligious. Why were what were they hated so so that breaks down will Jews control the money will too much of Jewish history Jews have been impoverished and of filler on the roof, stories is very common in terms of Jewish and being of Jews being impoverished and poverty-stricken through the centuries. In a cycle through the different theories.

A second that is this really work in the universal way we can connect the dots from one culture to another to another. And then say what about Deuteronomy 28 Leviticus 26 that curses for disobedience is in some of this result of Jewish disobedience. Yes, for sure. Amos 31 God assist Israel. You only have I know that of all the families of the earth. Therefore, I will punish you for your iniquities so for sure. Some Jewish suffering is been a direct result of Jewish disobedience, but much of it can't be explained on that level and the the over intense hatred and in the horrors of what happened through history have to go beyond Jewish disobedience so for me, the bottom line is because the Jewish people have been specially chosen by God. Satan specially hates the Jewish people, and because the Jewish people must welcome the Messiah back because God's promise that the Jewish people will continue as is a distinct people. The matter what because of those things, Satan must wipe them out if you can wipe out the Jewish people. It's a direct assault on God.

It makes God's word untrue and their new Jewish people to welcome back the Messiah so there be consequences with it and I years back in the 90s I did lectures at Yale University and at Columbia University and I laid out the thesis that there is no rational explanation for anti-Semitism that ultimately it it had to be supernatural and diabolical Yale and a Columbia at the invitation of some Christian groups. After my presentation.

Going through all the arguments I didn't feel the questions and one of the cases I think for up to about two hours and nobody could come up with a better explanation than the devil that it is so in effect. I remember one gentleman believe the Swedish descent at a Columbia who posited the thesis that it it was apparently supernatural, but that was just because we we did not know Maureen's ultimate thesis was aliens were behind it is. This is one of the best answers I've heard so far because it acknowledges there is no rational explanation than II demonstrated him by the alien I didn't work either at out here. He accepted my argument so that's a serious issue it that again does not mean the Jews are not guilty of things. In other words, if someone takes issue with some of Israel's policies that doesn't make the person an anti-Semite. If if someone is working with with a Jewish businessman in an the guys dishonesty say guys dishonest physical an individual Jew. Dishonest is make an anti-Semite, but to be an anti-Semite is to demonize the Jewish people as people to falsely accuse them as a people to paint these were pictures of Jews as a people, or to demonize until delegitimize Israel as a nation that's what crosses the line and we really see Satan reaching my newest book, Christian anti-Semitism talks about this rising again in our own day right in America right within the church that so we must expose it and stuff out the false ideology and and pray for Israel's protection as well as for Israel to return to the Messiah so that's that. Your answer chosen by God and therefore especially hated all right will thank you you're welcome that you look. You know the other thing the other thing that I get into. I give these lectures are in in our hands are stained with blood. In Christian anti-Semitism. Those two books is the irrationality of the charges the irrationality of the attacks, the craziness of some of the stuff that that said about Jewish people and and we keep hearing over and over and over again and that is partly because it satanically inspired. In other words, the, the lie becomes even bigger becomes even more extreme in crazier if if you've ordered Christianity anti-Semitism you have the book you enjoy the read. Please post a review on Amazon and enter elsewhere your faxes good reads, etc. let other folks know because we will have the bashers that hasn't happened yet, but invariably will have the bashers and the attackers people and read it, but if the anti-Semites will be attacking it. So if you've been blessed by the book.

A great way to help spread the word. Tell friends a social media take a picture of it hold up Saharan reading this encourage you to read it and when I say blessed him, and its disturbing content, but it's true and does endless triumph, Jesus, Yeshua is coming back where to Jerusalem.

There's a reason for if you don't have the book yet.

It's available everywhere Christian anti-Semitism from allies to visitors to light a fire with your host activist, author, international speaker and theologian Dr. Michael Brown voice of more cultural and spiritual revolution get into the line of fire now by calling 6643 here again is Dr. Michael Brown this sounds and why have those with me decades and decades ago by Michael Brown.

Welcome to modify or 8664 truth on this Thursday through Thursday so listen half hour from now for 15 Eastern time. We continue on the*Brown SK dear brown YouTube channel. So join me for exclusive weekly chat. Every question of every kind we get asked to stack as many as we can. All right, let us go back to the phones and we go to Lauren on Long Island where LaDonna specifically Lauren donnybrook Stony Brook yet.

We lived in St. James and I taught the ministry school in Stony Brook for a few years in the 80s, while Lockyer accident.yeah I did. I long ago in the else and actually started a little when I started teaching in my late 20s and we had people from different parts of America. So just around more students and others who didn't have the having your gags and then the director was from Scotland and he would always and yeah and he would kind always make fun of my New York accent stuffing coffee is negative so I think this little by little and then living out yeah but but trust me, if you ever see my demeanor at the airport, always pushing, hustling, moving us to get the New York spirit that great. My question entry in regard to your thought on social justice: black liberation theology that prevalent in many evangelical churches today, especially in mind in a university community and how it relates to antifeminist to and my concern for dictating another cheat us and another gospel because I have heard in strict sampling a prayer meeting people pray a prayer like help Israel not to be felt self-righteous extremely burned about that and I I don't want to beat up by my body and Mike local church. It's really hurting me being the link to which that had infiltrated the local body right right.

I'm sure this is not an isolated incident. You mentioned Stony Brook in universities and liberal school in the does influence the atmosphere, but I'm sure your experiencing many others are so let's put this in three categories. Category one is where ever racial injustice remains River. This is a live issue. It's something we should look at. Consider understand and I was at a call with us with some leaders the other day and the concept of make America great came up in one of the black for this. It had made some very different in our community than yours. It did on and he was and I hate the direction things are going in America with gay activism with abortion or other things like that said, I'm conservative. The culture wars.

He said, but on the other hand, it's never been better to be a black in America but now you know so we we want to will always be sensitive to history here things through different perspectives. That's that's good I'm just my call is over the years of educated me in terms of life experience. I have never never been racially profile.

I don't know what it's like to to to grow up in certain environments and have certain viewpoints to space of the color of skin, because I did live through that myself. So even I know exist. It's just helpful to hear from others so you will react against what could be a valid cause her concerns about this treatment, police, or the justice system.

But let's look at that exam and that's one thing. Second thing is deliberation gospel which really is another gospel.

It is, it is not redemption through the cross it, it is not based on the universality of human sin and the need for Savior. It is, it is really a political pushing back against perceived injustices and somehow draping the gospel in that and and that really does get off-track very, very seriously, so we put separately, the issue of racial injustice or in an equity where it remains. Let's look at that exam and it understand it and can move forward together to fix it.

That's one thing. Second thing, a liberation gospel like liberation gospel or the the larger agenda of the Biella movement with with Marxist ideas and things.

That's a separate category met this really dangerous and then the third one is that the often with this is the demonization of Israel that the equivalent to black Americans or the equivalent to Native Americans would be the Palestinians. This the weights looked at in the equivalent of the white supremacist America is genocidal evil Israel. So everything is painted in every caricatured way. Rather than recognizing Jewish suffering through the centuries, rather than recognizing Jewish history slaves in Egypt rather than recognizing she's been expelled from country after country over the years when Jews learn American history. It's not in 1492 Columbus sailed the ocean blue when they learn their histories. In 1492 all non-baptized Jews were expelled from Spain, so this just a different perspective to out of all two out of every three Jews in Europe wipe down the Holocaust so to make the Jewish people know that the evil occupiers that the genocidal apartheid state is is of course very destructive and failing to to recognize the larger issues involved. So it's really a matter of conversation education dispelling myths, pushing past stereotypes know may be people grew up and their friends who were richer and better educated would choose, so there's kind of an unconscious bias against Jews. I remember of Lauren during an outpouring of the Spirit that took place in the early 80s that I was part of that of friends started coming to Nancy need to confess bad attitudes that they had for years and I'm number one of them told me the Jewish kids in his class really smarter is resented choosing to carry that resentment towards me. I was are shocked to hear as a brother in the Lord's. You never know what underlying things. There are as well. Do your best.

Have honest conversations and and if if you can and and there's a ability to hear each other. Great. You can move forward. If not, if it really gets extreme sometimes you just have to step back. It's unfortunate, but we are going to waive a lot of extremes these days Bancaire yeah and what one last thought Lauren if you can get if you can get your friends and folks of the church to recognize Jewish history and my poker hands were stained with blood is an eye-opener. People understand what you suffered through history knows that's just me choosing to victims but to say hey hey look, there's week we been through our share here, let's let's let's let's look at things differently together. Hey, thanks for the call 866-34-TRUTH we don't go there. Let us go to our friend Annie and Madison, Connecticut walking to the line of fire.

Dr. Brown, Mike (with Joel but we were fighting about this week while talking about the Bible's book, but I forgot about that. Your work about what God's servant of the Lord made me think that is okay, Robin, Joel. The relationship sounded strong, beautiful, go to the Torah your God thing. I will be your God will be my people, and Opera trauma June Jewish family living in the time of Jesus. And I say to my family… A little wrong. Everything was going good but knowledge. I guess we have a global later to talk about all the stuff in the past we got everything was going with us, but now it looks like real gold router so let's try to say wait a minute something wrong with that because God say I love you I love you I love your mobile really love you much anyone he likes to work this list… That's coming from different. I love the question, how could Joni be considered upright and blameless in God's sight. If that's the case what you need to save. How could Noah be considered upright and blameless. In fact, of the New Testament, Luke the first chapter it tells us about Zechariah and Elizabeth that parents of John the Mercer that they were blameless and Paul says of himself in Philippians 3 is a Pharisee. He was blameless under the law.

So what's what's the concept there.

There is a right way that people do live there are God fearing people who in response to God strong in their lives are are living lives. It would be considered outwardly righteous or living lives that that meet certain standards and that God is pleased with on a certain level. At the same time this very man Job, God exposes junk in his life.

He ends up repenting because there is not an ultimate cleanness inside of us. There is not an ultimate righteousness inside of us knows there is a righteousness under the law, and there is a good conduct that God approves their many human beings on the planet like that. If not hundreds of millions, but there are and I'm sure their devout rabbis and devout Muslims and devout people of other faiths that are living lives that are very upright and ethical in many many ways, but ultimately in the sight of God in terms of Henry by her own marriage enter into his presence us except me know know because will fall short and and notice that Job, in his system is still offering sacrifices so even under the law. There was and there was atonement that was there. It was always part of it right and it was was always part of it missing on the Bible is not perfect either but the Tolman system was part of it so you seek to live a righteous life. Please got on him, but you still need cleansing and ultimately when you see catastrophe after catastrophe happened to our people's people in exile and destruction of company risk and we need a Messiah.

We need help. So it's always going in the same direction, and so much of the Old Testament narrative is to get us to recognize we need help were not as healthy as we thought were sick need a physician and that's why the fullest of time God sends the Messiah as a reminder, the temples never been rebuilt so far in August 2000 years. A constant reminder, we fall short. The grace and need mercy and need forgiveness and need a Messiah to very, very biblical and Jewish concept pay as always talking to you) is 15 minutes from now.

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