Dan & Bill Pratt, and Tonya & Becca Hart

Kingdom pursuits where you hear from ordinary people instilled with an extraordinary passion together we explore the stories of men and women who take what they love and let God turn their passion into the kingdom pursuits now live from the truth. Your host Robbie Gilmore McCain versus Christmas eve eve believe we got before Christmas lessee Sunday then Monday than Christmas right there are three addition of kingdom pursuits are today, very exciting all the way from San Antonio, Texas. My right close enough. Bernie just a few miles north to send Bernie. I never heard of Bernie Texas, and someday Dan Pratt and his son Bill is the author of tears on the church house floor but I my father used to own it dealership in Georgetown Texas actually was part owner of it which is just north of Austin. Okay and you and Hunter that you can see San Antonio, just south of Austin so you would think of knowing of each other cities. But anyway, how did God reach out to you to say wow Bill you may not then you can write a book well. The book jerk dear soldier, just floors about very dramatic time in our lives we had lost her grandson mother and beloved pet 16-year-old Labrador all of the span exactly one year and it was a period of grief in the unexpected grief we were going through it and got reached out to me in a special way, personal way and said basically I'm not going to pass you by now. I've always been with you and he took me back to a time in my life.

It happened 50 years before, and that's where the book so takes off and starts and Joe's chose me through my story I try to let the reader know that God is always there for. That's what spurred me to write the book and struck by the way has a forward by Maxine Cano sure many people including myself on my favorite author so pretty exciting when you hear a lot more from Dan and his son Bill welcome. Wow, Bill, is this your first time out of state or did you come these often first time out of state that is wonderful and so glad that one of the places you chose to join us here at the Truth Network this Christmas season. Also, today we have Tonya and her daughter Rebecca Hart HAART.

You would think it might be HD but anyway they have true heart you allow that true hard farms at and you guys had a big Christmas event on December 8 that we originally scheduled you to do.

But then the guys got ill and so were having on now to talk about your hard farms.

Thank you so much for having us sign the kinda cool don't you think that we have tears on church house floor and true heart farms on the same show.

It just sounds like a country Christmas to you and so speaking of Christmas, which I'm guessing we don't have any missed struggle in the day with the computer, so we just can have to go without my music.

But that's okay.

Speaking of Christmas I item if you guys have heard the story, but there's this woman who had helped this homeless man she had sort of a homeless meltdown.

As you heard about this, but she said I just need to vent. I've had enough.

I'll never help anyone ever again. I'm too kindhearted or just stupid in the day. I was so cold out I it was so cold I took a man in the my home on the kindness of my heart. I felt so sorry for poor thing. Look about froze out there in the cold. He couldn't even talk or move the next morning he just vanished. Not a word. Not a good buyer, even a thank you for sheltering him the last straw was when I realize that he went all over the floor. What a vast that's the thanks I get for being good people. That's just heartbreaking. But so she put out this morning. I want to warn my friends watch out for this man. He's heavyset, wearing nothing but a scarf and hat is in those it looks a bit like a carrot and two black eyes.

His arms are so skinny that they look like sticks dumping them in your house you make a huge mess on the floor and then it'll disappear maybe figure that out maybe didn't. But here's a more Christmas riddles for you. Why was the woman visited it Christmas by a jolly bearded fellow with a big bag over his shoulder since actually sent to me. Why was the woman visited a Christmas by a jolly bearded fellow with a big bag over her shoulder over his shoulder. It was her son coming home from college with his laundry and this and Bill. How did Jesus. How did Mary and Joseph know that Jesus weighed 4.2 kg who is away in a manger. I parlay in the next galaxies. That said, we actually have a riddle we don't have music but we have a rental and so here's our who attend the first Christmas staff meeting, you can save these guys were all outstanding in their field who attended the first Christmas staff meeting.

You could say all these guys were outstanding in their field and if they can guess that Rachel tell Mike that we are Mike doesn't there we go. We have a buzz we don't have reacts all right. Well, if they calling they will win a book from the kingdom pursuits present there you go. So were hoping are aware, you have callers calling in at 866-34-TRUTH 87884. You can call in and when who attended the first Christmas staff meeting. You could say these guys were all outstanding in their field 866-348-7884. We even do have some extra books.

Dan yes all right they win tears on the church of charset church house floor. All you do is calling 866-34-TRUTH 87884 so Tonya how long have you been out there it true heart farms been around for years now. I wow so is pretty new pretty.

How exciting. How many acres do you have. We have 12 acres is in Davie County and my yes contents North Carolina so when people say advance. You know immediately. Therefrom, Davie County because the rest of us would say advance president text here from Texas and he read that and and and you are my daughter went to the IE and and a elementary school right now. Being from Texas. How would you pronounce it the what the IE a and N/A yeah yeah right like a sausage venison. I have no I was told very Mike, here's my first grade daughter telling me know daddy it's Diana, it's not Vienna.

Those people up there in Austria had no clue how to name their city. It's by and so in advance which I happen to know. Having spent a lot of time in County.

A lot of people think Hillsdale is advance, but is not and so when you say you're in advance. Are you down south of where I feel him in Iraq when answer out good so you really aren't really are advance and so when people find out that that they wanted to eat. Do you unstable horses there or you just have and what we do is we teach. Let riding lessons we do competitive writing as well. We also have lots of farm animals for the children to enjoy. We have llamas, chickens, rabbits, potbelly pancakes, many miniature horses, goats may "say we have a lot for the children to attend joy. That's wonderful and so were to be finding out more about true heart farms, which is pretty cool to have a true heart. But then you know how did how do you know Max look at me now. How did you get this this forward. I mean, that's impressive. I got out my media thing was like wow you know I get a lot of authors on here. There aren't many of them they get it forward for Mac cicadas.

I hear the music that means you hear about that when we come back from the break, least I finally am hearing music or an intro or something for my computer were alive and well here Truth Network. Meanwhile, you need to call in and tell us, you know the answer to this, the first staff meeting. Come on, say, these guys were all outstanding and the meat is a Christmas that 866-34-TRUTH 87884 2000 kingdom pursuits really takes your passion and use it to build the kingdom. I'm so glad actually here my music to things like that when anyway. We are so blessed today to have with us Dan Pratt is the author of tears on the church house floor which I found all sorts of interesting stuff.

The break room. Find out about them, and Tonya Hart and her daughter Rebecca with true heart farms in advance North Carolina and for those years.

Doesn't Robbie I live in Raleigh. I live in Charlotte. I have no idea where you talk about Davie County greeted me with me to share okay you go west of Winston-Salem. The next county over from Forsyth County is Davie County and the heart of that is Marksville beautiful downtown Marksville where my dealership was so this kind of near and dear to my heart.

And if you go to the south on 601, you will end up in advance and if you turn on cornets Road apparently refined too hard farm stands aware they have English writing lesson solicitors clean American and an English different for most people that the obvious difference is that we all ride with a horned so we have to actually use our legs and hold on okay so the saddles are significantly different. This battle is very different, much smaller doesn't have to wear when another horse pulls up in front of you when you push as well right well that's cool. Well, I am shocked I am personally shocked on my real life I was easiest riddle I've ever written, but let me just say it one more time. Okay the ideas think Luke chapter 2 okay with me just for a minute. Hopefully you think about all through the season who attended the first Christmas return about the first Christmas staff meeting.

You could say these guys were all outstanding in their field. 866-34-TRUTH 87884 as a member calling when I know you're out there in the hustle and bustle, but you got plenty of time to go.

Cell phone 866-34-TRUTH 87884 Juergen Nguyen this book again the fourth by Max Okada. Tears on the church house floor, 866-348-7884. Right before we went to the break I asked the question how in the world to get Max Okada to write your forward.

I think I have a pretty good idea how that happened. Well we moved to San Antonio about 16 years ago I got a call one day from consultant friend of mine I'm in the engineering business. Lou offered me a job in New Jersey and I said will Lou I don't really fit New Jersey listen to me talk and he called back. He called back about three or four weeks later he said about an opportunity in San Antonio, Texas, and I said I'll call you back and I want my bookshelf and I thought that's where Max preaches I believe John looked looked it up in. And yes, it was no cues church so we went to San Antonio to become involved in heavy industrial engineering, construction business, but actually we went there to become part of the accused church that happened about 16 years ago.

I've been in Melbourne at church for over 12 years now and teacher Bible class or call mountain climbers and still is sharing with tells about that. There's about 50 or 60 some odd people go to the mountain climbers and is quite a hoot. Are you one of them.

Bill yes now I don't blame you.

Yes I'm very popular and efficacy iron asked me a bunch of questions about the Bible and I can probably answer one by one hourglass commitment were excited about this so Bill O'Reilly is very popular in Boerne, Texas, as well as in the mountain climbers, but became elder to church it okay was about 12 years ago and Max senior minister and a maxes friend of mine. He's a as you noted, he's world-famous you go anywhere you talk about Christian book. People know back is also a very humble fellow good friend of mine very humble man and adjuster profile, prolific Bible teacher and so I ask him. I said I will Saturday.

My computer has to look I know you're extremely busy got so much today I sent him a copy of the manuscript came back on Monday so I be glad rightful that's out that story unfold now there's something really profound and what you to share it. I think that I don't want to miss and I've met Max at the National religious broadcasters convention. I had a chance to spend the time with. You have certainly spent time in his writing, but I there's this line in the beginning of the gospel of John that I never can get away from. And I think it's so meaningful it says that Jesus was full of grace and truth will grace Robbie's world is favor and so when I'm in Jesus the presence I'm his favorite. I got a knight bills his favorite. I can get the mountain climbers in the real really really really godly people that I've met in my life when I was in their presence.

I felt like I was their favorite and and you said humility. That's part of it, but it's actually something else. It's like wow this guy really appreciate this guy really wants to know me here, this is Max at Cato and he's interested in me and you feel like wow this heat heap. It's it's genuine and it's called grace right you were supposed to be made in the image of God is mostly Christlike trust in Christ was like he heard what other people had to say. He looked at people that most people would have anything to do with his you're my favorite aunt. And that's the point that sometimes is that if we feel that from someone like Max Okada. Can you imagine what can be like to be in Jesus's presence.

And you know that your absolutely hundred percent.

His favorite and speak of my favorites. Right now I got for favorites because for people call them with the answer to my riddles. I got Rodney and Doris and David and Angela so first let me say you all may have the same answer. So don't just hang up because some so grateful that you would call have to go out to the trunk and get more books.

I'm sure he doesn't mind but he wants y'all that one done today. I absolutely get there your favorites to because they know that standing in their field. So please don't hang up. We want we want to get to all but first off, because he was the first on the calling. We have Rodney and Rodney are wanting to present good morning good morning are you today I am absolutely blessed in so many different ways and we are so close to Christmas and I have you on the line with me and always wonderful decimal and so I really enjoy this little you know about the first Christmas staff meeting will do it in orbit who are outstanding in their field.

They were just that was just awesome rain Rodney. So what part of that story since I got to my phone just lights up your world back that not being other than believe the one that came all the logs that were stuck in there like doing a religious act in one know everything that all and the one that will be among the ones that were there.

There were the ones that were coming to pay their glory of the father, son, and I think that's incredible and nothing really occurred to me this morning. Actually I wrote a whole article on the 23rd Psalm sounds get ready for the Christian Carnation this morning. Is it kinda gives us an idea how much God loves animals and he knew these guys love the sheep and and it was a way that he could look into their hearts like he could look in the King David's heart and and see that these you know that they will would love these animals. Well that they would love his people. Well, I, I, I am so grateful that you brought that up. Rodney II think it's absently amazing Hamburg to get your information so we can get you the book. Okay, I got blocked.

God bless thank you so much for calling today we have Doris is in Winston-Salem North Carolina. Doris we lost RCC but hopefully we did lose David was in Greensboro. David your hunting pursuits good morning.

I am excited to hear about your answer because a lot of times my listeners are way smarter than me because the writing on the highway all around. I couldn't doubt it. I couldn't tell you back about 2 miles and I would like oh no, so II really get the ship it is and and when you when you've considered the Christmas story. Chapter 2 this year. What part of that story just lights up your world that you think well so much that not only does what is so good. Let us know what, I love that to give us that all word that pre-work. Let us know you not by yourself of your best buddy and I enjoyed that much and situates why love you so much and I want you back with me so much that I have a plan to do it.

I'm going to let you know what the plan and have the I grew up in the AME applicant met with church and we believe pockets are and have the pomp and circumstance that the whole heavenly hope that you instantly play awesome awesome and how the shepherds must've felt my maternal living your life and into the thrust into a majestic extraordinary. No one had ever heard of the story see God. I mean really tells you for Connie and I got one more fiddler on the line when you get to her in a minute. We can hear so much more about chairs on the church house foreign if you were thinking about writing English style American we've got the answer for you to do today on true heart farms, so stay tuned. So much marking the pursuits as well and oh my, I just blown away that I what I found out on the break about true heart farms. It just touches me. What a Christmas present this to find out about the story this behind true heart farms, but Tanya, this is been a journey for your family. Similar to the journey that led to the tears on the church house floor as is your daughter had some issues that led for animals were a big part of that sill and I happen to mention that people that love animals. I didn't realize the significance of yes when back I was 12 years old. She had heart surgery and she was just really struggling and we took her to ride horses one day and even if she was weak and really pale when she sat on worshiping And it just became a passion for her and it was a great distraction from what she was dealing with Sarah. She would ride four times a week and on. She just found 11 horses and everything was horses and she went on to win a world championship doing it and it just became a ministry for as using animals for children that have challenges, really for anyone that I eat on a second chance and let your horses so I love animals so that's how our journey started and then true heart farm on began that loving ministry for animals and for children and Becca you actually have a service.I do have a service dog. His name is Savior and he's a great. He's over. That's where the sheep are safe and that when you have others around so that yeah and what is that service dog do for you and so he's an alert dog so that means that if my heart is beating incorrectly or he thinks that I'm getting at. Think where passout or need any assistance of any kind, he's able to help so he can alert today's statement he can open and wears in some animals that played a gigantic role in it that this is not your first start now. This is not my first service dog.

My first service dog was a Greyhound and he was the first dog any essay to be able to detect irregular heartbeat just by hearing said he did at all.

Naturally style was deftly I got well wow wow and so I am just kinda blown away that the beginnings of what God is done through true heart farms, but as you're sitting here Dan I'm sure you see is is I do, you know, I've I teach special ministries at Calvary. So we work with a lot of folks with all sorts of interesting things are one of the great things they do. People with down syndrome and autism as they left to go ride horses because you know that I love what Tonya said it pinked her up, that there's just some harmony or some shalom.

I guess that that happens as a result of interface with animals or DC.

That would bill as well. Yes we we just rescued Kentucky Walker Kuhn dog our sons on the Kindle here in North Carolina and we live in Texas and Josh called and said you know this really sweet dog and she weighed 46 pounds you can see a ribbon or body you know. And now, thanks to Bill, she would raise about 60,000 major generously twice a day, but the bill has a special and all her family or close drug dogs, but I would love to hear bills take on what's the name of the dog, Bill, Mabel Landon made the land yeah you live still long afternoon and evening walks out through the neighborhood. What we live in Bernie Texas and how long do you take my plan for walking about two or three hours a day. Mabel Landon got the life tenancy that is more than amazing what we have.

Angela is in Burlington. I didn't want to miss out on her. She also has an answer about these staff meeting that we are talking financially you're on kingdom pursuits good morning. Thank you for all your hearing yeah yeah it is. It is amazing in the winter using service dogs for these days is is really absolutely remarkable, but I think is true heart farms is bringing out that animals got all sorts of solutions for the human race so Angela over these characters out there in the field with these staff meeting and and I know this is your first Christmas without your mom and so I'm I'm curious what part of the Christmas story is lighting up your world. This year Angela well, in part, Lori, you have me wondering how does Robbie know that Angela lost her mom recently will actually last Saturday.

I think it was Angela's been a very, very, very faithful listener for years and years and years and years and she lives in Burlington and we've talked many times and she's also faithful listener to Peter Rosenberger show help for the caregiver because she was a caregiver for mother for all those years and one time she called in. Peter and I made her promise that she would write herself a greeting card because sometimes caretakers lose their identity so Angela called me Saturday to tell me that she lost her mother so this is I reflect on all that for me Angela home the go and tell part of what the shepherds did is that life is meant to be shared but good stuff and that's an and I was honored as I would always be honored by anybody you want to call me to share something with me is going on their life good or bad, but no matter what I is not meant to be general and sometimes I bet Becca you do that with animals. Yes, we definitely do not.

And so when those kids are coming in. You got all these kids coming that that now are fallen in love with the animals. I bet now they they they begin to share with you things that they have been able to share with other people deftly animals seem to be an median for them to open out and relax.

They will be able to maybe tell us things that they don't feel I can tell anyone out. And so with that said, Angela. I'm asking do you have a pet of some kind of where currently I my mother died on note, I have it just means I know I don't know a single term has a problem with fish and I have enjoyed some fish in my days specially, seriously, you know there's there's there's there's some animals that might just give you some company.

Angela and and Mike started aquarium and who knows what may happen. Mostly I'm just grateful you called in today and you knew about the shepherds got bless you, thank you for calling will all very very clear. Thank you all a very same here.

Thank you, thank you, Angela S.

Fine. So Dan is it Sunday school teacher. The mountain climbers right I could but note your first chapter is about this woman who had the boldness, the courage to try the extent that tears literally rolled down her cheek onto the church house floor and that set up the whole idea.

Somehow she right yeah you know what spoke about our grief. The loss of a grandson of mother love Peden that stirred me on the inside and I never written a book before so I didn't know exactly what to but I had a story detail and it was a story about God and how he showed up but I didn't really know what I was doing and had written about almost half the book. I really didn't have time for and on the last Sunday we built a new sanctuary. It appeals. We've been in the gymnasium style. The lobby was a hard time believing Maxim Cato priesthood gymnasium style outdoor we did for many years and was glad to do it. We moved in a new sanctuary in the last Sunday we were in our gymnasium style auditorium at the end of our worship service.

Max calls for the elders and their wives to come for the prayer partners and we surround the congregation and people can come forward for intercessory prayer and so Nancy and I went down front and that this lady stepped out into the you could see when she stepped out of life.

He just drained all the joy out of her life. She just had a downcast look to her face. She came down, we ask how we could praying shortly stated her adult son lost his way and her bouncing baby boy was causing a lot of heartache and grief. We formed a triangle there and invited God to join a triangle like a holy triangle and we prayed and then we we broke up and she will move back and I look down the church house for the well over a dozen big teardrops of the church house floor God's Holy Spirit poked me and said that you can't son you say would God spirit spoke to you didn't like spam or Flickr or anything like that with her thunder clap, small voice that Elijah heard not one quite like that.

But it was just a clear start you've ever had. That's when the spirit speaks to me getting a clear thought. So taking them so that's that's the title of the book and that's how I know the anybody. This can read this.

I almost hate to ask the question on the second of all times.

I have one question. As I was reading through the book. One question kept coming through my mind.

I wonder if you set it up that way on purpose you find out when we come back to him or from feel more from true heart farms so 75th here available for you this Christmas season sharing what God did so much more, stating her segment.

You know, as I was reading this story about the woman with the tears you know you would've expected that there was this grandiose answer to these prayer coming somewhere in the book but then I didn't see it or am I not a good reader and I couldn't find it anywhere.

God does answer prayer. All I know not not to any dozen that you know you would when you realize that that was the title maker of the book and here was this prayer and and no doubt God answered her prayers and all sorts of different ways right, but we don't see is it in the book somewhere and I missed no not not that particularly you know I wouldn't know her and I didn't know never knew her name.

I'm not sure I even recognize her again. So far, you know you prayed with an angel that was you know the Bible tells us some of entertain items and didn't really know it is that I don't know.

She was an angel or not she was very sincere and her tears were very real and I'm sure God reached out to her in some special way will never know there is it church I'm trying to think of where it's at its little bit north of North Carolina is called the church of the frescoes and there was a guy who studied in Italy how to make frescoes and is quite a story was actually in. I can't think of the name of the magazine that was all behind this, but this man was trying to find he was trying to do a Fresca of Mary and his wife was pregnant at times but he didn't think that his wife had Mary's face, so he was walking down the street and this woman is coming and it's like mammoth Mary and so he ease like it.

Would you mind stand there and let me sketching on this a little bitty town in front of the name of North Carolina with churches and and he sketches his face and it's just like the most perfect Mary of all time. And then he says, by the way, what's your name, course, it's Mary. Well, after he does the painting, you know, he begins to wonder who is this woman is little bitty town in North Carolina. You know it.

Town of 25 people everybody should know, Mary, and the talk about this painting because so much from the people to come to this town to see this church that he was commissioned to make a second church. The picture which was John the Baptist in the night he finished John the Baptist lightning struck outside the church and hitting one of the trees and it cracked the head of John the Baptist. So when you see John the Baptist Mary with his face in that when you see John the Baptist's head is cracked right across the course. You know what happened to John Estes and so then he did this amazing Fresca behind the altar and the night that he finishes it he looks up to just admire what he done, which is really beautiful painting and it says you'll be surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses in his.

He looks inside the clouds of his own painting.

He didn't paint these faces in the clouds but there they are, and so if you're ever in that it's it's not the balloon is called the church the frescoes you could check that out. But is that your talk about your lady. I couldn't help but think of man, but also speaking of a Christmas adventure right. Who else was out. Tell us about your barn and in the manger in your your sharing during the break time on what we are talking about you when you clean your stapler you clean your barn. You're actually doing in doing that where Jesus was born and and sometimes we get a little tired little grumpy about cleaning that it is. It just took me back to the fact that wow this is where and the choice was for him to be boringly surrounded by animals in a stable. That was really nice in a nice little thought that, can you actually had a major birth that your time. I ask you a document that Becca well this really had many births at the at that time had goats and baby chicks and baby piglets and you know all sorts of things I it always brings me back to that found in birth is renewal and birth is a new beginning and at such a blessing to stating it to be a part of that and so mangers are big part of that without food you don't get any was in all the bread of life was to go and born in Bethlehem right now separately so that all it's all coming together altogether. Of course there's one chapter in this book that I would love you to talk about. I couldn't help but notice that it says hey Bill right right well.

Bill is a bagger at HEB grocery store chain Texas large grocery bills been with HEB for about 15 years. For those just tuning in Phyllis's son's banister and also try and so he's a bagger that HEB is to us. Kind of like a food line.

I rise as large grocery store chain very popular and build a bagger there and he's very popular as he pointed out with a mountain climber will now walk around Bernie sometimes and and only route around Bernie's couple miles. Invariably, some by a holler hey Bill, they know really look at me like who are you slump as they Nancy Nancy not been married 40 years, we said we got married.

If this thing really works out someday will walk down the beach in the gray-headed and will be grown closer to one another closer to our God will that they came. She always wanted to go to why so I said okay will go over for 442 of the little white so we didn't and Bill went spend some time with his brother in the silver North Carolina let McNeil had traveled from San Antonio to let llama airport grown men groaning the Atlanta airport, never to be seen again and Bill has a tendency he's got a PhD in slipsliding the way we live them all over the world. I slipped away from us. We were really concerned month or so going into this Atlanta airport.

Next, ask your ladies Bible class to pray about it and they didn't light up special lady named Barbara Morris all national worrisome by the CBO will take care of them.

We just look Barbara's comments passes by.

We didn't really realize the same God was telling whose fiction happened we get to the airport and weeds. Anxious time and will back-and-forth down the concourse and we get that Southwest gate made 10 minutes before was time to take off. I give Bill his ticket in the span of about 10 minutes. Nine people holler hey Bill hey Bill and one lady was a lady what church he said hello. Kyle got a two hour layover in Atlanta asked I would into his brother shows and so I call Nancy as a going damage at last. You never believe what happened 10% of the people in our Plano Bill and Nancy's voice cracked as she said in God. I said absolutely.

In the story and the point behind the story was all that time leading up to the departure people been making plans to go all over the world leave now San Antonio and we had all his anxiety building ourselves about Bill and how the transfer would be made and that's main thesis of the book is that you cannot see what God is doing until you see what God is done in that moment, it became visible all the time God's hand was guiding people to be at Bill side and it was really no need to worry and have have anxiety we sent our prayers that in faith always attracts God and he answered a special way you can see what he's doing totally see what is done so if you're praying that you don't think there's been an answer used have seen it coming us until you know all these people on the plane. Yes, everyone, and I see him quite often. It's a story about every day to maintain a folder on the airplane with me specialist. One lady asked you about Avery Dern day was her favorite person. She likes to buy mostly wine and beer, wine and beer that would govern the day and see their input.

Nonetheless yesterday. She's right up there in front. You can't miss her and she same hey Bill, yeah hey Bailey and and so for you I'm I'm curious all these friends that you have what is it wasn't for light as far as your faith you been doing your dad yeah of Sunday school. How do you view God Bill, I felt pretty good. It feels kind of warming coolants and and so you you've lived around this pretty much her whole life. Yeah yeah yeah and did you see Jesus in that happening to you.

Yes yes yes in many ways and I wonder into tying it for you. You started this, you called true heart forms of ministry.

Why do you call him because it's a great place for children and for animals. We are not a formal risk, even weedy taken animals that are considered not desirable that we do taken horses that need home and we teach our kids that you can be really different, but be really cool and they were all different. And God loves all of us and on is just a great place to just that I would love you taken horses that other people are figuring or glue yes yes we just did that is actually sick. I we just taken a new horse names Beatty and she's just awesome.

And while I and so how many horses do you have like we have 15 horses seminar courses I share horses and many of them arrestees again were not a formal risk unit. Weedy taken animals to have one of these big tall black horses with the cheapest document how do we do not have a freeze and we don't have information on and then we have a llama that was not me that wasn't desirable because he couldn't show safe and not need llama and we have some white horse with this missing 1/9 different.

Different animals need help now. I am thinking about how close is to save the show from the EBV that I would get a chance to hear about Becca story, which is remarkable chance to hear from filters on the church house for again you can find out about all these proceeds.com go to Kanga pursuits.com and you can order the book right there from Amazon event, please review it for makes all the people see this use if you order those people were sent out about 14. So while we are so appreciative for you guys this Christmas show and I would have to say I would be remiss what the journey starts here