Roy Jones and Will Hardy

Kingdom pursuits where you hear from ordinary people instilled with an extraordinary passion together we explore the stories of men and women who take what they love and let God turn their passion into kingdom pursuits now live from the truth. Your host Robbie Gilmore.

Well, I am live but I'm not run.

I did need your prayers. Robbie is in the hospital with his father. His father had annexed yesterday fell out of his wheelchair and their freight may have broken a bone in his neck so I would highly encourage you to pray for Robbie's father and Robbie today.

Robbie called at 6 o'clock this morning and asked if I would be willing to stand again, so you've got the betaine but we were on the other side we've got the A-Team's force gets good this morning. We got rule you and will and lawyers will have set up a wonderful program called talking and walking Christians. Men's fellowship is a way for men to come together and explore their faith journey with each other to strengthen each other in their walk to iron sharpens iron and Robbie's head Roy and many times Roy is set up this ministry with the help of will and they've got a summit coming up the dead like to share with us what would you please share a little bit about how you came to set up this ministry.

How long ago was it what what transpired. Why is there a talking and walking Christian men's fellowship you think Bill was as most organizations start is always a personal component in the heart position about it for me.

I was one of those men who had been a Christian since of being a teenager got saved on an as an early teenager I never quite understood what the father-son relationship was about.

Hence, I didn't know what it meant to be the right husband of the right father-in-law own family and got the wakeup call Martin 2005 and just asked the question what he done for the kingdom and at that point, could really put anything measurable out front of the people and love the Lord and love my family, but had been leaving my family properly, nor had I been leaving the children properly to the foot of the cross. So as a result of that guy got a workable heart of the space returned all over him. Have a great mentor that came alongside of me for several years for about 10 years.

Keith Carol's started with me in the 2005 and have had many other men have been impactful in my life to the journey. So as a result of that, we decided that there other men the same position might never sit on the sidelines bill so that's that's where it all started with let's do something about the people on the sideline is not that men don't want to do it. I think oftentimes I don't know quite how to do it and know was his talk to the shows only chocolate about the alignment were God's got hearts about about his will, and how the creation started.

Robbie was right.

You just absolutely perfect. Guess that you are just smooth and altogether is just a joy to be here with you now. I wish I had been smart enough to ask Pastor will what his last name was pastor will what is your last name Hardy and you. You have a church in Greensboro.

Yes, we have small fellowship. True worship, community, church true worship, community, church, and where do you make we meet on off of East Bessemer and Greensboro and it's on 1040 Westside dry and you have a webpage for your church. I know we don't have we done that if if anybody's interested in your church.

They can check the stations with date and Robbie would just be thrilled to help get you to connect it up that does the talking and walking Christian men's fellowship. Does it have a webpage we do. It's actually T a W CMM bill. It's actually talking walking Christian men's ministry T a W CMM.com. We got the event links there as well so will be the history of my story on there as well and in the sums more information about our organization so we can go to kingdom pursuits on Facebook or kingdom pursuits on the web and find out a little bit more about the ministry or we can contact Robbie and he declared that he get the information out there pastor will how did you get involved in this but I got involved bill when Roy and I we work together and in working together apart from the ministry.

We sort of just came together and Roy asked question when we were sitting in a meeting one day. Are you a brother in Christ and I said yes he did know me. I didn't know him, and then from that point on we began to this fellowship together and he invited me to come to some of the meetings that the ministry was having the dinner and some of the other activities that were involved in in one thing, led to another and and here we are working together for the purposes of making sure that all men are equipped and in their proper role. Understanding what their proper role. He is with kingdom of God. Wonderful. Evidently he's got a regular weekly meeting we have Elsa biweekly bill we deal out of every two weeks will it with the first and third Fridays actually on Friday morning host site First Christian Church in Kernersville, the North main Kernersville poster for breakfast, force, and we have a hard start at 7 AM. We have a hard stop at 8 AM so that men can get in, fed spiritually and physically and get off to work and still make it on time so we don't break very calculated with our start and stop times and now we've got men from all churches in the area. Come join us.

We always have a great message and is an interactive times will figure men get the priest out on Sunday so won't have an opportunity to give some thoughts to their own. My walking journey back to the group because everybody goes from each other through the process that Robbie was telling me that he has some really great guest speakers come in and then he rattled off a bunch of names and it was 6 AM so you like to share with me some of the wear that with the audience.

Some of the thoughts that you had come into address your group sure. Well I guess I would do a dinner as well which governments that we do a dinner every two months on Thursday night so it depending on the event and the venue who will have come in, but we had some professional wrestlers come in the cuticle office been and speak with us who have some professional football players in the past on the evidence from most Wolfpack fans will recognize that name played NC State and also for the Cleveland Browns and then also a pet to former teammate from college and played for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and with us on our larger events we've had God we had blessed Lester have Dr. Tony Evans.

Come join us.

While beyond that was a phenomenal event. We had Gen. Boykin from Black Hawk down. He spoken several times we had Stu Weber, author of tender warrior and four pillars of man's heart, great, great speaker and author. We fed Judge Paul Newby join us in a Supreme Court Justice Paul Newby be with us on multiple occasions, the list goes on. We just be blessed that God truly line some really unique people in our lives through this journey and not there's probably some that I failed to mention, but please forgive you for that with their spinster great line up in solving God's alignment. I think I hear God saying that you need to set up another program in Winston this close enough for me to get to heaven kindly ice also and I'm just a tremendous ministry you got a summit coming up unit tell me a little bit about tell the audience a little bit about your summit sure way to start was actually a part of the conversation with Judge Newby several years ago used to give his promise keepers went away several years back. There's not really been law a lot of gatherings for members been some out there but we just felt in our particular area more the regional level that we should do something to pull men together and get some speakers in the level that would bring some attention to the kingdom getting them to talk to men about what men's roles are backed what will admit tenderly about the proper role got Scott's position for so this event each time we would bring men in and this let nothing different than a football game or some sort of super match if you will to come into get taught for challenged your throughput to limit some question about things that you probably didn't think about through the normal workday.

But when you walk out of their hope and goal is that the men will indeed get motivated to start serving the higher level and at the given proper alignment with God. Bill that so hard is that then everything else will fall in line behind. Too often we as men, I will certainly use this phrase quite often.

This crisis management Christians you know it.

We love the Lord and will die for our cause, but we don't depend on God daily and every in the small things as much in the big things, and by that I mean when we get into crisis, we seem to get much closer to the Lord because we need his help more and more prevalent in our future in a situation when that moment will. This is absolutely fascinating lobby. It was a key figure in my life in a small group like this and was reason I ended up helping so often on the radio and I know that is wonderful to have submitting your life and reach out to want to hear more about this. We want futzing Kernersville to be a part of this wonderful ministry to please state showed that pricing pulled Christ first to put boots on the ground to remember that were supposed to be a light on the hill in a time of refreshing to those around us that if we've got Jesus in our heart that we are an ambassador for Christ and that we should look for opportunities to make a positive difference in the lives around us starting with our family starting with our spouse and our children and reaching into our the community at work and the neighbors around us. How do we find a way to get connected and to to show Christ through us. I noted that there was a time right after I met Robbie that I was in a small group that met every week and we had been from numerous different backgrounds but it was a place that I could go in and learn more about Jesus. And when my wife called me and said our daughter had leukemia that was the group that I picked up the phone and called and said guys I need your prayers. I need your help.

I need to know that you dear for me and I knew they were there for me but I knew that they were praying for me and it gave me the strength and the ability to be able to be a stronger father for my daughter and a stronger husband for my wife so I commend you gentlemen, I know that in my life that they've been a couple groups like this that is made a really big difference to me and I understood how long, if you had this program up and running well. We been meeting as a group of men probably about seven years the Augusta in totality. We set up a nonprofit two years ago in the this will be our fifth annual some was just talking to mom's coming up in just a couple of weeks that what is a summit it's called the men summit this we bring several guest speakers into a kind of recharge men get them rejuvenated for the year and our hope is that when they come out of this meeting that they've adapted some principles and some concepts and some some challenges in their in their spiritual walk that they can go back and put into place to improve the relationship with God first and that which will ultimately improve the relationship with her wife and the children and their coworkers and the communities that will you were talking about the four pillars would you would you share with us a little bit about the four pillars and then you said there were some other other principles that ye encouraged the use of this four pillars.

Yes, I'll be on the four pillars we we seek to have man equipped we want them equipped with the necessary tools and resources that they need in order for them to take these resources and not just let them be something that we just discussed within the meeting but take him outside the four walls and then began to expound what this equipped knowledge to smaller groups to their family or to their local church and and with that they can understand and begin to build within their sales and internalize those things that they need in order to be that leader within their household anywhere. We have them engaging take after your quip, then go out and engage the community. Be proactive and not reactive to situations. Once you are equipped with the necessary tools, knowledge and information to take you to that next level and then we we won out and I educate them and edify them. So educating and edifying edifying yes is lifting up and and educating his is doing what we do with respect to information regarding the Scriptures and the support items that we were referring to is any time a a man has issues.

We want to be able to deal with them right away, but in some instances, we must have patience. So patience is one of the peas that we we look toward the next one is persistence so being persistent in your ability to take the word of God out and to ensure that when you take the word of God out into the community into your church that you are not giving up. When something becomes difficult but yet look for a resource plug back into the ministry. Give us a call. Texas email is so we can get you pointed back in the right direction and then next each man has to be passionate as to have a passion for what he's doing and we hope through the persistence of keeping a moving and therefore direction that this passionate desire for Christ, begin to grow within himself so that he can be that shining like out there to his community and finally to be able to persevere. And persevering as a course is enduring.

We we have to be able to endure all of the hardships. All of the necessary issues and obstacles is going to come our way. Asked man and be able to know that God is still in control regardless of what I'm going through it's you that's good, William and Bill back to your commentary about when your daughter was diagnosed with leukemia and we share with the men. Many times it's not a matter of if you want to go through a season, it's when you go through a season and was that season will be like in Sweden. We go through the desert as a friend was talking this week if you got that fellowship to get that fellowship with a group of men basically are soldiers in arms if you will. Beside of you because every man needs that support network somewhere in the life of not every day of their life and never got friends are going to battle shortening on close friend and some fighting cancer and got some others that are doing some other issues that are home and just as we all have friends are going to let each of us have been through those kind of things but without that network first. Well, God out on how people get through it.

Second, without that network of men to pray for you and hold your arms up through the journey itself. It will be a very long process without limits through those men that we strengthen each other and thus the whole concept of our ministry is a fellowship in the community and one of the key things Bill. We found and in doing research and talking with people if you ask you share this with her breakfast or Thursday morning.

The number one element of men postcollege into the work careers and throughout most of life that the owner Hartmann's loneliness and in the essay will hey Bill, who's you who is your best friend now 10 minutes, I was can be somebody back from high school. We survived back from a college football team of the college's baseball team or somebody certain service with that scene maybe 10 or 15 years, but they still consider them their best friend. Now some of us have done a better job at connecting through life. But as we get to be adult men were not expected to need other men… I just told us that they you don't need someone else you're supposed to fix the problem you're supposed to carry the load and I think that's part of why we lose that intimacy with each other as part of what we break intimacy with God and to weaken the crisis controls we mentioned earlier that my best friend is and I'm sure you to say the same thing our best friend is Jesus after my best friend Jesus. My wife comes in is my best friend and then after that I need some thoughts that I can pick up the phone and call things she just can't say to your wife right yeah and that there are things that you need help trying to decide how do I explain this to my wife and had that group is just awesome get we talk about not putting a false face and we we talk about not walking around with a mask but yet in my walk. I'm a little bit different work that I am in other places yeah I'm I'm a little bit different church that I am other places while yet it did get there just some things that it I didn't know everybody in those fluctuations that I can't trust everybody in the situation when the people at work.

I work with some of my love and I'll be glad to share any and their son, that I just yet.

I can't share stuff with. I don't know how it's going to be twisted and turned right and work.

Unfortunately, their people it at church that same way that a small group or or larger group of men that you've heard them share their heartfelt stories to share their fears to hear their worries to be able to go to that group and and they know enough about me that I can say man I need to get down on my knees and and share with you and I need you to help me figure out how to deal with this because a lot of the problems we have in life is that we can't think about them clear enough that we can talk to ourselves about it and we can't articulate to ourselves what this you ever heard the story about that. The blind men find the elephant in the middle. The trail and one of them has hold of the task and when I'm has hold of the trunk when I'm has hold of the tail and went and has hold of the leg and a little bit later. They all get in this great big argument because one of them says man the elephants just like a tree.

He says now in elephants just like a giant snake now and elephants just we have different perspectives. You see the entire problem. But when we have men in our lives that have gone through similar problems that can reassure us that none of the problems we go through in life hadn't been solved by hundreds of thousands of people before us exactly and that if we've got that prayer team is bringing Jesus into our life and helping to say, look, this might seem scary to us right now but if we can sit down and talk about it and write it down as soon as figure out exactly what the big picture is that Ford said there's no problem so complicated if we don't break it down into smaller pieces in your group just sounds like the most awesome place to go build those relationships with some knowledgeable godly man to be able to share those concerns. Plus, there's this wonderful feeling to be able to make a difference in other people's lives to hear them share with make some small way or large way where I can help them through a difficult dark time in their life and then be able to look back at always think about that our growth in our spiritual law is a circle that spirals and feed off the answered prayers that they meet with on a regular basis and we grow in our faith so much faster if we just depending on seeing God answering this, we come back. I'd like to see what people he knew been able to grow in their spiritual.

Thank you for being here thanks to Ninian show about how to put boots on the ground how to find a way to be that ambassador for Christ and we've got some guests and this morning that are talking about just an awesome group that if you're in Kernersville are close to Kernersville, it certainly looks like it wonderful opportunity to meet some other men and to strengthen your relationship with our Creator and will was going to talk to us a little bit about some of those instances where their members have made a great difference in the lives to some of the other members. Yes, Bill, about two summits ago we within our prayer room because we have a prayer room where man can come and pray with other men in between speakers and and we had one young man command and he said I desire prayer because this device that I had in my hand and he had a cell phone. He said this is probably one of the worst things that's in my life right now and I asked him to expound on it. He said well you know it's because I can get access to so many things that are not appropriate and he said I need prayer in reference to this and he said he said it's it's it's really plaguing me. I'm in a relationship. I don't want to take this into my relationship. I want it just done away with and so men who were in the prayer room. We gathered around and we prayed for him and as he was. We were praying.

He was open up to God and began to pour his heart out in reference to his situation and how he wanted to just get rid of this that was on his back that he was carrying. And so about four or five months after that he did call because we share our contact information with him and he said God has freed me for God has freed me from this addiction. Men and we were so overwhelmed and we were so when I crawled in and God just showed us right then that this is something that as you take it forward this ministry, but there are so many other people whom we're going to come in contact with so many people who have stories like that individuals who are working so much that they are neglecting their family life there, neglecting their time with their wife and seeing their children grow up because they have this overarching stigma that has been put on by them in society that they have to do all these things and in their measured by their worth and not measured by how God looks at us and and this is what we should be pleasuring ourselves by by how God looks at us. So those those are just one accountant and in the second account of a man working and and neglecting his family.

We can see that there's been so many joyous moments that God has shown how effective the ministry is moving forward in so many men out there who needs to be touched who want to share their story because it's it's difficult for men to share their stories with man. It's much easier for women to share their stories with each other it you you you encounter a man and and it's like I'm if I share something intimate with you on black women. They can never know each other for a long time meet together and start talking about shoes or purses or things like this and it could lead into just a general relationship, whereas with minutes. It's difficult because we larded we we have that wall up so so those are a couple of accounts lawyer there some instances it you can remember where a life changing transformation happened between two or more of your members so you think you built the with the retreats to discern off-line you're with you that we do. We been doing men should treat every February up and Valley Christmas in the Best Buy comes to mind as well is that the DL conference center with a wire still on the outside of the law.

It is as beautiful place, and unlike up to the falls is what is gorgeous.

You know the exact place that it's it's it's a man's place right after drinking all that all would feel otherwise it the exposed wires but Billiter it's there so numerous.

When you think about over the years and never focus on the past, but it's a great question. We had marriages change we've had men that have been released from addictions we had mended time have saved their marriages as a result of what God is done in her life. Through the use of the summit mountaintop experience or even some these meetings on Thursday night in the units and something which I want to touch on, as well as things important for men that if we think about our walk with Christ is been an example of what being a Christian is about. And people are looking at us and especially once you once you declare that you are following Christ.

How you behave and how you react and how you walk is is watched more closely than if you had never said anything because people know that Christians are expected to behave different people like to put you in that box the hypocrites they get to use not going to church exactly that's us another one excuse and so part of our car. Our journey within the minister say look, guys, your face and your behavior should look no different. Monday through Saturday that it doesn't Sunday the person that I see on Sunday should be the person I see Monday through Saturday so that's what we challenging each other to do through this journey, but a nasty other question Bill. We've had the ladies that actually share testimonies in churches, on behalf of how God's work through the gatherings and through the events to change their families to change their marriage to change the relationship with the children in a week and one thing we try to practice them and instill in all of them is a sense of confidentiality so that you if you share something. It's a very generic sense such that there is no one knows, and we don't talk about any details without the permission of the once been involved but then I still think to do it, you're missing earlier with accountability in small groups is that the bill to be open but also know that is not going outside of those three or four miniature talking to. They hold it MOI, sometimes afterwards before been on the medial Holy Ghost went well and can't give any details, I don't give any details, books, and protecting the confidence of the brothers in Christ.

There were those needs. We had mended to have been on the verge of checking out literally that God is used the meeting or phone call or relationship to turn back and walking hard for the Lord. Now, instead of leaving us. We had people that were middle situations with content as will mentioned that that have turned back and got back in line with God and religion fruitful lives known building the kingdom there so numerous and a time to think about that.

The it's if it's something anyone. The struggled in your life that you know of their somehow the goddess took some way and that journey through this ministry and through the men around this ministry and will just commend all the men there. Part of this to be less gorgeous types to be the captain of the ship Sgt. steer the rotor and the wills part of that team is as there are many others which we have mentioned, but more poorly there's a group of men that make up this body of Christ that are the people make things happen and I just been blessed to be a lead for one on them to school and make sure that when he calls me home. I don't have as many regrets as I would've had a few years ago Eddie called me home that heavenly men do you have show up at your every two weeks. Breakfast will have 3035 guys that are there consistently little peek over 40 on some Fridays. We've though the price adjustment going to use on the breakfast which is now Gartner will start get the momentum but is open to all men, from any area that they can get to with High Point, Greensboro, Winston-Salem, cars are centrally located were not far off the highway there, so it's pretty easy to get to if they would if they choose sucking up. Sorry to be there seven minutes a I get a permanent 430 someone is guys that get the party doesn't bother me. So the overachiever love you darling hard out here like this. Is this more that the body aches removed from the data.

Sports I don't need labor too long.

So and then you've got a monthly meeting every other month every other month, you will urinating will do a dinner which is what we call what will do the different churches will let different churches host so we can move it around work working on a neutral location because refining that through the observations and some other brothers it tends to be whatever church where we get a higher percentage of attendance than if were moving around to neutral point surrender to neutral point we do a guest speaker every two months. Rest of the workshop coming up in March related to both multi-ethnicity conversations that this can be led by Cinti Spady back toward the goal of breaking down the walls of race denominations are that did I hear you had a service project or that you were supporting some yeller with just this fall. We did our first community project we had worked when I worked at the what's now cost more Winston-Salem which is to be applicable to our children's home and I think of the last show with Rob. Richard will be restored.

But her daughter that we had adopted a few years back from Boston or up in the mountains and the Beretta workday will Saturday, which was phenomenal relief for those this coming year to go help them. They got such a focus on a 70 acre form there that's constant need of maintenance and upkeep saloon spent four days this year help him with them in different settings throughout the year. Share a little bit about the adopted daughter that sounds interesting, well are in 2012, Mike got a diploma heart that we had fisted the adoption journey which my wife brought it to me three years before and so we that we have decided to explore what that look like so we contacted Crossan what she had been exposed to my wife earlier and will recontact Crossnore. They open the doors and God took it from there are daughter was set recently orphaned at birth from the Ukraine and sued been brought to the US by her adoptive mother who later died when my daughter was age 10, so that was, the journey she was on God, work, our hearts upset I need to get do something and he did it and now the sunlight has a family for lifetime brothers and sister for lifetime. That is awesome. I just thoroughly enjoyed learning that that this ministry and all the opportunities you need to satellite program in Winston-Salem thinks our roads a little bit better yet and wouldn't talk about the opportunities when we come back, but I will ask everybody, Robbie's father loved his family. We want you pray for Truth Network should designed to encourage older you get off their senses to turn the TV off and go out into the real world and experience life in such a way that folks noted were Christians that we are involved in our neighbors lives that involved in the lives of the people that we work with in involved with the people that we come in contact with that we take seriously the charge that we are ambassadors for Christ, and that we've got a responsibility in a loving and caring way to share our faith in Jesus Christ with those that we come in contact with you might be in one of those vibrant churches that is growing rapidly. Or you might be in one of the churches that has a whole lot of empty space in the pews. They have just done research and found that in North Carolina 25% of your adult neighbors have never ever once been in a house of worship 50% of your neighbors my neighbors. Our neighbors when asked, do not belong to the denomination or congregation. Most of the people that you come in contact with a little over 50% only attend church three times or less in a year will we've got a responsibility to let people know that there's a reason that we turn into a creek tune into a Christian radio station. There's a reason that we get up and go to church meeting during the week that there's a reason that we open our Bibles and we read and that we try to memorize a little bit of Scripture that there is a reason that we prayed our creator. There lots of people out there where in church, we don't realize how many people's cars are sitting in their driveway. We assume that the people that were coming in contact know what having a personal relationship with Jesus Christ is and in many cases we are wrong and if we don't share that knowledge of Jesus with others.

Who's going to you know it said for everybody to accept Jesus Christ, that they had seven opportunities to understand what it is to accept God's offer to become a child.

He is seven opportunities before they finally end up doing it. We are not called. We are not responsible to lead anybody to Christ, but we are responsible to be one of the seven opportunities were somebody has the opportunity to understand that our creator is real, that his son came to die on the cross so that we had the opportunity to shed ourselves from our sin that we have a father in heaven who loves us, who has plans for us, not departments but plans for open future that our father in heaven. Jesus said he came said that repentance and forgiveness of sins would be preached in his name that our father not wants to not only forgive but for yet our repentance, he ends, and that is a concept this loss than a lot of the people that we come in contact with their folks that have grown up in families that don't understand what Luddy is and to be a part of the men's group where you have people where you can pick up the phone and call and say man I need help I need prayer. I need advice is also it gives you the opportunity to pray for big things and do expect wonderful things.

When you get to hear other people talk about how God made a difference in their life. In answer to prayer solve the problem. It makes it easier for you for me to ask for those big things. His Jesus says we got a daddy in heaven who loves who provides for us. What if we don't see God providing for students hard for us to pray believing but when we see God making wonderful difference in the lives of the men around us to get around and pray for each other on a regular basis. We get the feast off that knowledge that our daddy loves us so when we pray, believing for ourselves in small groups for other people pray in and we see a miracle in the lives of them. We grow in that relationship with our Creator so much faster than if we tried it to live our life on our own. We try to make it through those difficult times without help. Is there an awful lot of times we look back we give ourselves credit for those things that God did, and will learn a group of believers with brothers who reminded hey Leah, yet when they prayed for you for two weeks. How come you quit asking about that. Will that problems not there anymore. What have you been given the glory to God for that problem that God saw. Now I just replace that problem with the doing yet if we think about the problems that were dealing with right now. This is a totally different bag of problems and we were dealing with. Three months ago when six months ago when a year ago and we giving God glory for all those problems that he solved and we just replaced them with the new with that fellowship with these other men that have a little idea of what were going through the fellowship with those men that, if solved and seen, problem solve, far bigger than ours.

They're able to focus our hearts and our minds on the fact that we got a daddy's looking out for us all the time shearing. It is there one particular instance that you can think about what you had an answered prayer in this group that just helped open your eyes and help keep you focused are our Savior.

Well, that's a great question builders. There's many those prayers. But there's one instance and will surely talk about this obedience to the Holy Spirit is that time I think is believers that once we accept Christ Holy Spirit resides in us.

That's our knowledge that becomes our guiding force internally in 1000 way to China and the limousine pick me up work and I was headed out just taxes pick me up and got his nose. Marcel, you need to call you buddy and gave her the name is postcard talk to him several years. I picked up the phone calling and not he was thrilled to hear from me.

As it turned out he was on one of these guys on The Verge that was getting check out. The Lord declared that was his next step and had already planned out and and I were sure about that is that if will be obedient to Holy Spirit.

We never know where it's going to go in unit also chambers talks about weed that we know not where River touches after losing Sgt. paraphrase little bit but as it passes through us and it goes down river. We don't know all things were doing with Holy Spirit nudging that moment to call. The call it was a difference in a man's life. These events continue to to to be instrumental in changing people's lives. God uses these events and about 2.0 bill was not us. It's all about what God is doing and you mentioned something earlier when you talked about your daughter are not interested to hear how that worked out to be off-line, but in Mark two talks about when the foreman took the paralytic to Jesus, they could get to through the door so I tore a hole in the roof but they had them on the mat in front of my getting this illustration years ago was banned brothers is that at some point in time were all going to be on the mat, but we need this for brothers open up each corner. If you don't have the four brothers to carriers them were sitting with note no way to get to Jesus other than their own vices but that is so key in what we do every day and not how God uses each of us to impacts my we may never know what those seed plants are what that phone call meant.

Somebody may not share with you what they were about to do like the showmen there with me, but it could be the very difference in life or death or eternity and or death.

Eternal damnation.

So, that's what's so important that we are obedient to the word and be doers of the word not just readers hearers of the word and not I guess that's at the at the end of the day Bill were trying to get men moving forward and that's what this upcoming events about February to January 19 at first Christian, I would got four great speakers professional football ex-football player Tim Worley. We got Dave Reiber many people know to look them up online with both of you gentlemen up on Monday.

River former Navy vet we got to local pastors, and pastor Michael Thomas from love and faith in Greensboro and Benji Kelly come from New Hope down in Durham so it's gonna be an amazing day and we appreciate everyone's prayers. If not, it would be there, but please pray for us were just excited. See how guys can work.

That sounds awesome I tell you that set of great lineup your webpage address is WWW.T a WCMM that stands for talking and walking Christian men's ministry WW TWATAW CMM.com and you guys have got the event posted on truth. The Truth Network as well kingdom pursuits you can get more information for right from Robbie if you needed will is there anything you'd like to add about that.

The event coming up well Bill, I just like to if we can just pray for on the air for Robbie's dad and Andy the ministry as a whole.

Would you please do that for us pastor. Thank you very much father we come to you right now in the matchless name of the Lord Jesus Christ we know God that all things that you take us through. We may not understand the reason why we're going to, but we do understand that all things are in your hand. So we come to you right now and we ask that your hand beyond Robbie's dad.

Father, we just pray that whatever situation whatever circumstances what whatever it is that the enemy is attempting to do because we know no sickness comes from you. We just ask God that your blessed hand be with him and strengthen writing strength and all those that truth network strengthen the ministry and all of the individuals who are involved wherever they are.

Thank you information by saying thank you so much for tuning in the day. We hope that you will keep truth talk networking your prayers Robbie and his family in your prayers and the Hilton back in next Saturday. The summit forefront of your mind and we wait for you and your family this coming week. Thank you so much. Have a blessed