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August 17, 2022 12:58 am

Will we ever solve the Brady/Belichick debate? JR weighs in as do plenty of callers

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You are listening to the JR sport brief on CBS sports radio you're listening to your support on CBS radio. I JR this is BS. Sports radio and with coming to you live from the rocket mortgage Studios. If you need to know what it takes for a home to fit your budget and your family rocket can be hanging out here with you for the next two hours. Thank you to everyone who's been locked in since the beginning of the show, you are unable to listen you missed out you can always take CBS sports radio with you anywhere on the free Odyssey app.

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And I mean we've seen Nick Sabin have outbursts just in front of a nationally televised audience.

I mean it was supposed to be shocked that he said some things that ruffled some feathers of a player not at all will get into that next hour Fernando taught these junior week we discussed him last night. Seems that his dad is just continuing to double down on a defense of Fernando and in a few minutes. Were going to talk about, not Lebron James specifically but is some brawny and Skip Bayless what the what the hell do these three how they intertwine. I'll explain momentarily. So far, over the past two hours we talked about quarterbacks in the NFL. Different quarterbacks have different things to prove we talked about Lamar Jackson expected to potentially get a big offer real soon if he decides to accept it from the ravens and in the and we talked about Tiger Woods.

I guess he's trying to be the biggest advocate for the PGA tour is run around the Cape.

John encourage the other golfers not to join live this over here. Phone lines are open at 855-2124 CBS that is 8552124C.

The SI want to talk to you about this is Skip Bayless and Lebron and brawny situation and will get there. We do have some callers on the line must talk to Jim Scola from Illinois your CBS sports radio JR man I'm excellent tolerance are trying to call her long super long time. Number one. Frank talking about quarterbacks. You're right we been in a drought for an basically for Gluckman and that going a long time back and I don't know why for some reasonably we've never been able to get that chemistry right again. I'll leave it at this weird when you are talking about just the field. I want a training camp last year, I was unable to go this year but last year, which was nagging laughter in the coach and when I was out there which was the last basically the last day of training camp and I thought just appealed you would like in his African crime and human throwing things everywhere you guys were catching so I'll leave it at this you talk about Brett Favre last night being one of the toughest working guy one of the covers and not quarterbacks in the league during his time in playing almost 300 games you know how painful it was that the bears praying the fee that happen when he would just tear our event completely outmanned. So when you have brought us to do it and here's the here's the last thing I wanted that way is a rational last night of concussion. Okay thank you played up in the frozen tundra of Green Bay in the field hurts unknown. Can you tell when literally cooked okay and I will vomit on TBN.

He took those hit Bears game literally the bear defense they were strangling him out and why not just take him down. Well that's that's that's typical of what would seem try to do to the opposing quarterback absolutely Tony Scola from Buffalo your CBS sports radio they Tony okay I don't know what a hell he said he's not here. Set a Scola from Chicago your CBS sports radio tower going on bro, I'm terrific.

What's going may not like you to call around like your comment about not like that man the worst in the league schedule you think the Chicago so what is so what are you going to tell me the bears are gonna be one of the best in the league exemption is maddening to get that far, but I will go will win the most improved player broke back without a doubt, and like not laugh, separate Chicago. I don't know that I know. I think I might like like the gym I went to the preview regarding and from what I've seen mechanic everything completely broke completely on Baylor John Julia man morning Medicare ammonia special below and now a day.

I guarantee you not be the work came in and go back to that. I got it I got to say I didn't say worst team in the NFL.

I said I will yeah well lit so they won six games last year working on doing another six this year that be a success right now. I got more that we don't let Matt again. Wow. Okay. I don't know I'm not there with you both real estate if they win nine games I can do anything but sit my I don't think it's going to happen and if they do, they now say okay shortly did their no skin off my back was okay. Okay. Love you bro. Thank you.

Seth called from Chicago, Tony Zia from Buffalo.

I guess either you didn't fall down the toilet. Your CBS sports radio Tony, what's up how are you a pleasure to talk to you man looking at that young man that was with you bad mouthing Bill Belichick listen, I'm a guy out Buffalo old and own Italy 41st season here watching in understanding the game. I'm a tell you what about Bill Belichick. Remember, will hold on to sound great Sony slowdown. Second, who are you referring to the young man that you were talking to dad was bad mouthing Bill Belichick Young that he did.

The young man is is the producer and wholesaler of the show along with his name is Sheppard I believe you just spoke to him and so you don't have to address that kind of doubt to the universities right here with us. Okay well let me clear it will hold on shop but though I appreciate that Tony, how are you man yeah I'm curious what you had to say and how you can do you know about proper Belichick to be the list goes coach about five nights fight little Harry what you got what I got it drafted, Brady went in many other team skipped over 45 time.

That's number one. 15 if you shut down the know a lot about 25 to get what Buffalo but I gotta tell you, Bill Belichick. He was a he wasn't necessarily the guy wanted Brady to go ahead keep going, Tony. I'll see what I see this other question how did they do against the Buffalo Bills in the playoffs. Remind they did tremendously poor, which I really enjoyed. Okay okay okay toning off the top you had to have one quick question for you. The defense of Guru that he is, how many points did they give up to the Buffalo Bills in Italy, 41, 47 okay complete because with any other team had a good thing Belichick wanted to get rid of Brady long ago have garrotte will take at T-Mobile. They wanted salaries Schedule okay and by doing so in keeping him to want disrupt evoking any other calls that came when even the playoffs they be or when five wind team.

Maybe I'm just telling you as long as he's a coach and he got decent talent is always going to be a factor, different, something someone it doesn't particularly like him got a respective especially what he's done arcane lack 30 or so years had he is had an amazingly good fortune to be coaching under the right owner when he is not a massage parlors and then also know all week. Janice truth and not to mention the fact that he has coached for 20 seasons. The most accomplished athlete we've ever had a history of North American team sports. Tony, do you tell us how he do when he was in Cleveland he do the first to a New England when he still had a Drew Bledsoe at his apex docket result. Had he make the plans with that talent one will know what I'm talking about when he did not have Tom Brady when he was in Cleveland for those six years and in 2000 the year before he actually said you know what Mo Lewis and I could do me the good service of knocking out Drew Bledsoe, though I know that wasn't his intention, how did he do we Drew Bledsoe in 2000, how many when did they have to. They even sniff the playoffs all okay continuing on the radio things go. You yes okay accurately. Now income and completely Super Bowl appearance for season before and while all like in a matter of one good draft. He was able to get the vaccine being on the cost to a championship quality team on the theory about the dollar check if vaccine goes down far enough and they they are picking in a cocktail in the top five. Throughout the seven rounds tell you guys to replenish. It came in the gotta be a factor that I believe that I don't like it but I'm just got it don't like JR it's not just my point until you and since it is not matter whether I like her not being as objective as possible. I understand he comes from a defense genius in Stephen's father.

I get the fact that he is forgotten wiffleball that I know what I am saying his his legacy that is this been bestowed upon him is very much lucky because he happened to have the right quarterback at the right time when there was backs in the way the men I was thinking that that's all that's all I'm slightly directed at quarterback. Remember what you like. JR said he along with every other 31 NFL coaches at the time, you know, looked over him for the first five rounds and ended up getting the six round so I went to I think thank you Tony for caller from Buffalo. I think as an overall we got a look at at coaches in the general sense like coaches and I don't care what what level it is where you're at.

My coaches will add to a situation or they can make things worse if Tom Brady and we do not know this and and and for as much, as we say well you know what you say Bill Belichick. He lucked out here with with with Tom Brady time but who's to say that this this in no way in hell. No way in hell to think that Tom Brady would have the same type of career. Anyplace else JR he went he went pH of saying anything you don't know, at the age of 43 he went to a team that can make the playoffs the year before and they win the Super Bowl. We had any training camp we we we know that I know but but but if we know there was a 20 there was basically 20 years prior to that there is that there is something to say. This is not a Tom Brady Bill Belichick issue right I can say this about anybody.

I don't care if you're the greatest of all time or you're the worst of all time who had a couple coffee and got cut. The next day and I don't care what sport it is there some things that we can't predict and sometimes the matchup just work. You can be someone. And unfortunately he's dealing with injury right now. What if Mike Trout was selected by the New York Yankees or the Dodgers. What if that was the case.

What if Michael Jordan ended up in Portland as opposed to Chicago and these are questions that the world will never know. I mean we have so many athletes who don't sniff a championship or a title that were also great are also amazing, but they weren't in an ideal situation. This is typically in this is a matter this will sound real well right now you what you put out typically is what you get back in certain Psalms energy attracts energy and in the world of sports. Yeah if you are absolutely great at what you do, things can develop around you in a sport like the NFL. When you got 53 dudes running around it's it's very clear what if what if what if the New York Jets were the team that gave Tom Brady that shot we supposed to do think that Tom Brady was going to do this no, we got Damien Lillard. This man is sitting up in Portland making all this money go make 60+ million dollars a year. What happened if Damien Lillard would have ended up on that. I don't know the San Antonio Spurs whether the Miami Heat JR in in in in fairness, though, you know, we talk about all time greats in Damien Lillard is a is a superstar in his class personify but but he and all time great date Damien link to you JR, you and I both know we can. You and I both know none of an offense only ever mock. My point is, know your you're going in a different direction.

My point is you don't know nobody knows what anybody can be okay. We would. My point is we would not necessarily have the conversation of Tom Brady being an all-time great if he didn't fall into an ideal space. That's my point. If Tom Brady ended up with the New York Jets. What we be able to say he was an all-time great when you have six and seven rings do think he would ship is doing double duty here, but the price, the answer is probably not what I can look at someone like Derek Jeter, Derek Jeter walk around at all the rings in the world. He ended up on a team that spent all the money in the world and he himself is an amazing talent you have Alex Rodriguez set it himself. Hey, I'm a better player than is Derek Jeter guy I'm playing up in Seattle. I'm doing this and that but man I'm not about winning, you punch people. I apologize. I told him as we use refer to, which is not called. Is there icing ice I said yes that if you want to call someone.

There's a reason why Tom Brady is referred to as the greatest of all time. Because of the championships that he won because of the situational rookie that the quarterback before and was a veteran for seven years and All-Pro couldn't when under Belichick yes but the Tom Brady that we saw Sgt. as a rookie, but first you're starting to get his tooth out. Yes but the Tom Brady that started that game and played that season wasn't the Tom Brady that we saw three and four years after that the Tom Brady that one. That Super Bowl basically had the handcuffs on him because Bill Belichick had the more that's not to take away from this man's talent or his ability to play, but how he played in that first season and get that first crack an opportunity wasn't really any different than what we see right now with someone like Matt Jones. My point is this that it's twofold. You can only be as good as who's around you.

This is not this, not tennis.

This is not golf you need a team it's not an individual sport not use the example of someone like a Derek Jeter Derek Jeter just heard in his own documentary on ESPN.

All Derek Jeter did was when and meanwhile you have Alex Rodriguez what did he do all he did was smash home runs that we know Alex Rodriguez would've been damn good damn good. Before he decided to take anything and so it depends on where you're at if we got a defined greatest by championships heading in the cards for every body.

It's a little bit a lot for everyone where you end up where you get drafted and is the person leading the team is the organization and the solid space Bill Belichick yeah if you have Tom Brady when he be running around all the rings he has no if Brady wasn't there were Belichick with the New England Patriots when he will rings he has the answer is probably not notice is not an individual sport consultant to look at small cases and sample sizes. NFL is tough and it's tough to do what Belichick has done. It's tough to have the organization. It's tough to have the success it's over going to say that that Belichick was lucky to have Brady. The man Brady had the luck of the draw to be drafted by the organization to it's a two-way street. It's a team sport.

It's a hard knock life yet, and at the end of his career going to a team that was ready-made and and basically set for him since that's different than starting off very much so it's a tough world here 855-2124 CBS will get into brawny James will get it to Lebron will get it to Bayless. But man Bill Belichick is just a grumpy dude. But even a grumpy dude need some love to share a sport preshow to take your calls. On the other side. CBS sports radio you are listening to the JR sport brief on CBS sports radio listening to the JR sport brief on CBS sports radio right what you're going to be more clearly now with 855-2124 CBS the JR sport preshow here with you on CBS sports radio to get into brawny James and Lebron James Skip Bayless will move these three individuals have to do with each other will will get there right before we went to break.

Talk about the Bears talked about how bad their situation is or can be potentially what the season might look like with with Justin Fields in this like a it's a matter of bad luck. It's like the Bears have had bad luck, and somehow, someway, speaking of luck, the idea of Bill Belichick finding luck and Tom Brady came to the forefront in an Brady success in here we are, what is Bella check without Brady well I could say the same thing. What is Brady without Belichick.

It's a team sport and some of take your calls this 855-2124 CBS. That's 855-2124 CBS. It's just tough. You know, if you want to. If you want to operate in an environment of winning in this.

It's also the coach yes the coach. The entire organization have to look from the top down onto everything. The other players, the environment, the atmosphere Joey is calling from Texas your CBS sports radio here, Joey.

Go ahead. Great yeah not a big Belichick guy some reason I'm about what you feel like lifelong like the luck you talk about the document at the luck of having Marino and and I couldn't even come close to what Belichick and Brady. You know, take it thank the coach of quarterback and it crazy how great a quarterback. There are out there Jimmy Johnson. Bybee could do anything with great a later year, but he had a they dominated for a little while but nowhere near as long as Roger gifted he wants to provoke you go back to Montana and their coach back in the day that I got a few units run by Radical, it's difficult because it's a team it's a team sport. It's it's hard to think he joins a call from Texas is hard to go on a run.

It's hard to to win it spectacular with the patriots were able to do, and they both contributed both level. Paul is calling from Boston your CBS sports radio. You very well, yeah, I got a bigger picture you in that airbrushes your skin look about 35 social media insurance posted on your Facebook page LOL you are right you will you you want to take me out on a date and my airbrushed you look you look young, about 35 will you know what they say about black right. Yes, your I'm like you, on the same type of skin will you call me last week. Are you really trying to take me out on a date was going on here not seem like I wonder what you guys are like II love. One afternoon Jody Mack you got your great stupid.

You just did it again. The smart stuff about the big debate appearance is checking the exit Brady about anyone say we Belichick have all of James love radiant and there you are.

That's exactly right. You know you want to get what I just told David that you of a Belichick recruiting players Delta defense gave him the best receivers. He has a tendency to seek out that's overlooked or underdeveloped. Got a military mind, however, there's something that people forget when you raise the military you focus on solutions, not problems. You don't get into the conference circumstance. He doesn't give up both in point he went where like the Jersey of the week you know he was aware what he told the wary. That's why he had and they smashed him up by saying that you know that the flaky thing that that we decided she on a team that would be fine average of 40 points for last five games they punished for that and there's nothing.

People forget he's actually really funny and really engaging really level his kids are good to use a good parent, but he did catch lightning about Tom Brady and it's another thing JR would say the best, Tom Brady is the crafter too cheap to pay up what he would do thank God got sports call all Christ. Me, I love them blessed Grady could have a big fan and the best thing that happened to him when he got out of Dodge before the next season with you people forget was called to take like 10 starters and you have called it back in his career he got shot in one going and even even in that cold year and thank you Paul for calling from Boston that cam Newton and somehow they still 17 games which made no sense. They had no offense that was as bare-bones of football and I've ever seen in my life or at least in that hour just made no sense.

Children from Texas.

You're the JR sport preshow JoJo you children. Go ahead. Now I get one so well for him. Not a Belichick man a lot of calibrated plan around New England Patriots thing I'm not a Abatement but I do believe if you look at what they believe they found a plan. Brady don't want your blackberry rails on heel work, how come they didn't do that which I'm players all look I think during on the merits. "Without a little I belong. Yeah yeah think so children I think. I think James Winston still need a little bit more a season and is a reason why he had to go to go to New Orleans and learned a few things under Mr. Payton and Mr. Breezy was not ready. Maybe you'll be ready this upcoming season but we saw when he was doing in Tampa man Bruce had enough of that guy I doing this no more please save me, Zach is going from California your CBS sports radio on JR good know the kind of parallel about after you write the right time American family with their major league baseball yet Aaron generally a very good show. Hello Connie what happened there shortly upon you.go or take there be a whole different correlation going on for MVP where I wish I on the Angel you, by himself, and not I mean yeah well if he had a choice out the printer but I'm saying you know like with everything and thought that they need to be Tom Brady got picked up in New England, 1067 ring and then now yeah well this is sure in what we know. The last one was certainly more of his choice and thank you Zach: California year old son. He had a choice. That's the funky party stay on the West Coast. I want to be. I guess closer to Japan. Just jump over the Pacific real quick.

Now you well Angel suck and stolen all this money to everybody. Mike Trout is falling apart ring tone is just taken money not Plan B. In her mandate. Take that bad. And speaking of bad I'm I'm actually looking at the Angels here in studio about that the JR sport preshow you with your CBS sports radio 855-2124 CBS on leave these phone lines open will talk about brawny Lebron and skip bail as you are listening to the JR sport brief on CBS sports radio you are listening to the JR sport brief on CBS sports radio joy and offered Coley now with 855-2124 CBS the JR sport preshow here with you on CBS sports radio we get to the top of the hour. Think will be able to get the brawny Lebron Skip Bayless is sad situation got a 70-year-old pointing commentary out of a 17-year-old Scott get at the dad.

This is weird will get to that at the top of the hour. If a bunch of callers here a bunch of thoughts. The NFL and ballot shack in his coaching acumen and what he's been able to do with them without Tom Brady selling you with the team sport. By the way, if you missed anything that we discussed.

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He has your CBS sports radio sub Richard Gort, JR, I'm okay, that's good man love everything going on but I just want to comment, maybe a little bit off base rate talks about the quarterback quarterback maybe maybe I'm stuck in a time warp or whatever you do, maybe you can respond to them. If you can help me out. But we talk about that quarterback once again nobody seems to give you every ragdoll enough credit for winning gold in the span of five years and nobody wants to talk about the defense did that, but still today, we always want to talk about. No matter what happened in the game.

It's always the quarterback to get the credit or he doesn't get the credit. Bradshaw did something that was unprecedented at that time, you know, and I just noticed there why nobody it's like always, mind and or well force will have have an answer for you. There seems were were stacked like most championship teams you going to have a lot of talent and an granted side.

Bradshaw walked away with an MVP and one of those latter years, but the fact is if you go ahead and take a look at his numbers that that that's that's the most I can say it speaks for itself. And so you asked the question I gave you an answer. A.

It seems were stacked and be if you take a look at his overall numbers.

I can look at other quarterbacks in the 70s, maybe someone like Staubach of France are consent date. They probably were a little bit more dynamic. Right now the credit to the quarterback. The game has the game has of all let me it's more the passing game.

We have running backs in right now if I got a look at it that at, once-in-a-lifetime guys.

This put it this way.

Having a Roger Craig or a Marshall Falk on the team used to be something of an anomaly used to be extraordinary. Oh my God, you have a God who can you know both have a thousand yards receiving and also a thousand yards on the ground mean these these running backs right now.

It's almost like hey you better know how to catch the ball and so everybody's passing the balance the scale of balance on offenses is not the same. Not at all. Mr. Jones's call from Atlanta go and Mr. Jones missed your phone, your phone doesn't sound good.

Mr. Jones.

Amanda now menarche know you go out yes yes so you know you know full well or about the and I know you will.

They go hand in hand.

But now we kinda gotta say the ultimate denominator was pretty good even live one coach one organization that was in the trash to the prayers wipe it all signed up and took them to the Super Bowl or while you now military does not have Tom Brady, but he also has been busy all out with the draft and he will you would Make It Would Help His Teammate out by Getting You Know Differently He Try with Antonio Brown. We Already Know What Happened with That Where You Know. Pay My Bill Because I'm Also Slated to Go. Could You Gotta Give a Shout out As a Team Guy Guy Give a Shout out to Josh McDaniels Held Office Coordinator along Long Brady. They All Make It Work Right. Yes, Yes, Mr. Jones, I Mean We Can Go through 20 Years of of Everyone on the Team and Look at This Success, Yes. So I May Write You Now You Have Brady There Tomorrow.

I Came in, and I Might Not Go Visit Him at All the Levers to Really Make a Big Yes Leave Me Know and I Venture to Say This, It's Not like Tom Brady Won Every Single Year That They Were There, You Know It's If I Would've Taken Tom Brady and I Think Shep Might Have Mentioned This Is Not One of the Other Callers. If I Would've Put Tom Brady on That New England Patriots Culvert Season. Tom Brady. What a Got His Ass Walked Come on He Went Somewhere That Was Absolutely Amazing That All the Players There That Were Ready to Go 80s, from Houston. Go Ahead Quickly More of a Question and Think about It in the Right Spot to Follow up on the Pittsburgh Guy Dealers and Terry Bradshaw Came to the 70s Which I Grew up in Ever Making That Were Probably Better but What Bradshaw Did in His for Super Bowl Outstanding and Look at Those Things That Were Ahead of and You Can't You Can't Deny That I Know You're Trying to It's Not That It's It's It's Not It's Not Denying It.

If You Look at Terry Bradshaw As It Is a Single Individual, You Know, the Question Was, Why Doesn't He Get the Same Type of Credit That Someone like Tom Brady Gadson Tom Brady Is Playing in an Era Where You Are Airing the Living Hell Out Of the Ball When Terry Bradshaw Play the Game Was More Balanced and Even in That Regard. If I Want to Just Pinpoint Terry Bradshaw. There Probably Some Other Quarterbacks That I Could Probably Come to Swap in and out. Preference Something Being a Old San Diego Charger Ticket Holder. I Believe That Mike Riley Try to Convince Bobby Back Third and Will Talk about Organizations Correct. One of the Best in the Business to Draft Tom Brady, but Better That No Look That I Think It's True That Get Back to the Name of Patriotism and Running through the Jet in the Dolphin and the Bill Back and They Hate That When This Whole Tiny Started. It Was, It Had Been a Charger Fan I Look Back at That That Dynasty of Brady and Think about. Thank What You Want to Get As Many When You Can in His Division.

The E You Could Because You Want to Have a Home Game in the Snow in the Cold in New England during the Playoffs, Which Definitely Was an Advantage Argument That and That That Kid Tom Brady Smarted with Bella Jack. I Skill and Ability and and That Dynasty Thought Yeah That's What I Said, It Takes Two to Tango.

Absolutely Yes and Yes That That Is Why It Is a Team Sport in Yeah I like You Want to Argue That the Court, the Quarterback Doesn't Need a Coach Nowadays. The Younger Generation That Understand the Importance of an Organization, Not Just the Coach or Jet Well the Quarterback Is Using Easy Example.

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