The Revenge of the Taliban

Logan Sekulow special review of our new documentary series revenge of the Taliban keeping you informed and now this is the Taliban.

They very much want to be seen to be negotiating with additives of the most awful country in the world and instantly the American round of the talks is just finished and they moved on to talking to the Europeans so that their image or at least make them as if they're a legitimate government want to hear from you Sharon, call now your home so you producer of secular will. We are to be taken. Your phone calls 100 684 31 two of the issues at hand. New stories are coming out from Afghanistan received new things coming from that we have a bread do documentary series. I've been working on with our team for the last month and 1/2 or so in real time documenting how people feel the thoughts and emotions in some of the top leaders in Washington and around the world. It's a new series called revenge of the Taliban.

This could be available very soon. If you want to be the first person to know me about the first people to know when and how to get this groundbreaking series Rosalie that I feel very passionate about the ridge again be a 90 minute builder probably will be later on. Still down the line, but these interviews is 20 3040 minute long interviews were so intense and were filled with so much good content without written release these as full as we can and you be able to get as much of this content to you and be able to share with your friend.

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I received a hear from people who use the other show all the time like my dad Jay Sekulow Jordan secular, you will hear from by Pompeo. You will hear from Rick Grenell. You also hear from former Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft, Nikki Haley from Sen. Langford from Tulsa Gabbert we had on that was when the last interviews we conducted with Wes Smith as well, and many others were playing clubs from that coming out here in the next few segments. If you want to see what that's gonna look like there really were amazing interviews. I think you can enjoy them taking a lot information minimart breaking. We'll make you cry video mobile will get tamped up and and upset.you will either. Many times you have these interviews feeling pretty down to play a lot of these clips is good.

You know the real information we have people get from both sides of the what that is Tulsa Gabbert or whether that is a Mike Pompeo so and then we have people who historically can look back 20 years, like a John Ashcroft so really interesting piece of the will. We are putting together right now as we speak and you see some clips from that in the next few segments phone lines get open at 1-800-684-3110 order to discuss get well there was this US delegation that met with the Taliban will get into why they were doing that, rather than expect that's right, they didn't meet in Doha Cutter and there were some very specific agenda items on their agenda that they wanted to talk about. We got a readout from the State Department on that and some other information that we can give our analysis on we come back from the break that we get back again restart plates of those clips also give some analysis on that but right now worried break you want to know the first to know how to get this brand-new series revenge of the Taliban and I need to go to ACLJ.org/Taliban you do that to see a simple put in your name, email address, click, click submit, it will notify you as soon as those details are there soon as we have yet ACLJ.org/Taliban be the first to know when our exclusive new series premier the American Center for Law and were engaged in critical issues at home and abroad. Whether it's defending religious freedom. Protecting those for their faith. Uncovering corruption in the Washington bureaucracy and fighting to protect life in the courts and in Congress ACLJ would not be able to do any of this without your support for that. We are grateful. Now there's an opportunity for you to help me way limited time you can participate in the ACLJ's matching challenge every dollar you donate $10 gift dollar gift becomes 100. This is a critical time for the ACLJ the work we simply would not occur without your generous take part in our matching challenge make a difference in protecting the constitutional and religious freedoms online ACLJ only one. A society can agree that the most vulnerable invoice is, is there any hope for that culture to survive. And that's exactly what you are saying when you stand with the American Center for Law and Justice, defendant the right to life, we've created a free and powerful publication offering a panoramic view of the ACLJ's battle for the unborn cold dishes like it will show you how you are personally publication includes a look at all major ACLJ cases were fighting for the rights of pro-life activist ramifications of Roe V Wade, 40 years later Planned Parenthood's role in the what Obama care means to the pro-life many ways your membership is empowering the right question free copy of mission in life today online ACLJ/cellulosic your phone calls 100 684 31 to the goodwill were discussed that Alisa clips in place new clips from our brand-new series of it to the Taliban but we also are going to discuss at US delegation met with the Taliban and their first high-level talks since our pull out of Afghanistan. This was to try to get help those meetings with diplomatic meetings like hold up. Right. Be good to make sure Al Qaeda stays out, you're going to stick to what we agreed upon. But it does unsettle the nerves well in one thing that kind of unsettle our nerves. As you said back during the chaos in in Kabul was the way they kept referring to the Taliban and is businesslike at and use these these descriptors that were positive towards the Taliban and a terrorist group but in net prices, readout of the meetings that Took Pl., Saturday and Sunday and this is a spokesperson for the US State Department.

He said the discussions were candid and professional with the US delegation reiterating that the Taliban will be judged on its actions. Not only its words.

Well, one it its cringe worthy to hear them again say candid and professional when talking about their talks with the towel band but also there be judged by their actions not only their words were already seeing a return to the dark ages of Afghanistan, where women are oppressed minorities are oppressed.

Religious minorities are oppressed, and being killed for their faith or their gender or their their race.

This is something that is already reverted back to buy the Taliban in all just last month, and yet their single be judged on their actions not only their words yet will I think that we can start making judgments now about how Taliban 2.0 is going to unfold yet either say that this meeting is about grading recognition or confirming legitimacy, but we all know the legitimacy is already been confirmed. I think that yes they build the global stage and all technical sentences have all the eyes and teased and crossed her eyes, died to cross no. But do I think that we have.

We decidedly said that it essentially the way that we've created the told one of the questions we will be producing the series a lot of times ask Ursula questions because again we originally started making. It was going to be a done deal 80 minute 90 minute feature-length documentary shield please ask similar questions because you will build, edit, back and forth on the questions I often ask which is how can you as a US representative as a former Atty. Gen. or Eddie or whoever it was here in the name the Taliban had inherent treated with respect, something that is very disheartening. Very upsetting to a lot of people who grew up with them again. Most of my adult life was spent with the Taliban as a terrorist regime. Now it's become a legitimate government. According to our ministration and officials is a pretty rough rough time with that we produce this news new series and am very proud to say or think that RT Bennett did wonderful job when it was will raging a lot of the interviews are on our production. This would allow the always virtually we did this week via Skype and shot really cool. Have some clips here soon.

We have clips ready yeah one of things I think we could jump into his baby that specifically which is how the Taliban has gained some respects, you'll see me ask a question you'll see it from a guest so they will start with represent waltz, that's right, Congressman Walter Lorenz and we have the clip ready will go ahead and play it. But you know have someone who was a he's the first Green Beret elected to Congress and so it say he has both the spirits is a veteran out of Afghanistan and now a member yet he was involved in like the Bo Bergdahl hunt Burke allegedly he represents an area of Florida. It's like the Daytona area of Florida. He is an intelligent guy you pricing about Fox. I will say this. Looking at this list of people you want to know who to be the next generation of the conservative party pretty much this entire lineup of people stressing the people who are organizing some grass cross. Those guys are our legacy pieces at this point there are so many that have really showed themselves in this series so if you want to see who's going to pry your Who's Who in the next election cycle are like five election cycles.

I think a lot of them are to be people that I interviewed. I really do.

These people are intelligent smart are our understanding are not nuclear nuanced know what had when I was in fact no one had the same answers. Here's of the same questions but completely different versions of this spectrum. Let's start though with lots take a look.

Is it not crazy to you and it is to me as someone who I was 15 when 9/11 happened. 35 now live in premature whole life with with the towel abandons as a term of a terrorist organization and now were hearing that this is the diplomatic Taliban were hearing you know were having a relationship with them. It's rolling off people they'll mount off their tongues like any other government and it's really shocking to someone who was there and experience it was in Afghanistan. I can't imagine that you hear that and can just take that lightly, because most of us here in it. Shocking. Every time someone says it with authority listed how to change the only thing that's changed is they have tuned up their propaganda program and and they're dealing yesterday and they're dealing with the same administration that you know that they got there five top traffic Taliban time over Bergdahl right but let me tell you something I've seen principles of schools girls schools run out of town and their families murdered when they tried to make a stand. I've seen a girl school machine-gunned with the girl still in the school when my interpreters was stopped at Italian checkpoint and had documentation on they sent him home and beheaded him along with members of his family to send a message. We had my last for a seven-year-old boy was hung because he had dollar bills on they hung him and shot is now I know this is all harsh and graphic but distant. These are brutal brutal Islamic extremist dogs and we now not only handed them the powers of the state with a central bank and currently see in a functioning airport to send terrorists anywhere around the world, but we also does the party just off the most is allow billions of dollars in American equipment. Our own equipment to fall into their hands, that future American soldiers are going to have to are going to have to fight with what we have to go back to deal with this problem. It's it's taken it's a constable as its unforgettable again. So that is just a small clip thousands of Congressman Mike waltz are from Florida who did was well said the first Green Beret to serve in Congress very and that interviewed that's just two minutes of what was probably half-hour discussion about the details economically served in Afghanistan was there.

We love you blue servant gifted family served in Afghanistan were part of the war on terror. General others in Iraq or in other parts of the world. Again, that's just two minutes of what is probably a 45 hour special, obsolete, separated and episodically and they'll be edited down later on if you want to be where the first people to get and receive figure out how to get revenge of the Taliban are new series.

Very simple. We set this up today so those who are watching the dedicated few who are who are so intensely paying attention to what's going on in the world.

I was a few to keep an audience who are really care about what's happening even with the news media shifts. We encourage you go to ACLJ.org/Taliban they'll take you to the revenge of the Taliban/page there's a simple form, first name, last name, email address, ZIP Code, and you will be the first to know with this series is coming and when will be released and how to get and I think that clip that we play from Congressman Walter was really important to play today and to kind of lead this discussion and to hear the things that they're talking about. Like Reuters points out that they it's a top priority to hold the Taliban to its commitment that it will not allow Afghanistan to again become a hotbed for Al Qaeda or other extremists will other extremists could be the Taliban it is already now in a hotbed for terrorism because the Taliban controls the territory in the country so no matter what, they can't live right behind that of terror that settled his terrorist regime.

We also talked about the future of Al Qaeda, future of terrorism worldwide.

It's only got into Whittlesey Gabbert, who we have better communication with about a month knowing that we are getting dealing at this interview with her and someone from the other side. Not traditionally a straight up conservative person opts to someone who I can serve as the respect she was military personnel lost it and it was during this time she was active in Africa on a mission against Al Qaeda. We discussed that will play clip from that when we get back is at the pretty aggressive thing to think about that. There's all these missions already happening.

It's not just about Afghanistan.

Afghanistan is a small piece to the global puzzle that still is this war on terror. Whether you want to label it or not, whether they can engrave 2021 into the Iwo Jima statue with all the wards with all the wars and it doesn't matter because this is an ongoing battle and ongoing discussion again. We can't wait for you to see this new special revenge of the Taliban.

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Whether it's rising whether it's something that it is happening in Afghanistan. We also need to look beyond Afghanistan.

I think that's something one would last interview we did. I was Whittlesey Gabbert again as he said you knew her baby for the Presidential debates of 2020, maybe newer and is many different things that she is a soldier currently active serving and the last month plus she has been in the horn of Africa on a mission against the debt gets kind so we need to remember that that's all happening.

We have a great clip from her and I think that we should go to yoga in a roll this now. This is with former Congresswoman Kelsey Gabbard of Hawaii, but for you it we found out just a few weeks ago you were actually in Africa serving a mission essential against Al Qaeda and we we heard about Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda and this through this last month. As for Afghanistan, we are to worry about him anymore.

That's one of the reasons we left no problem. I but their name got away. Maybe they were there currently maybe not occupying Afghanistan.

We don't know exactly the situation, but what should we know about those terror threats that are worldwide to someone who was on the ground. Dealing with this days ago. What we need to know is is the truth which is that this Islamist jihadist threat that is posed to us. The American people are country coming from terrorist groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS there very much alive and well and thriving. You know this is something we need to keep an eye on in Afghanistan and be prepared to go in very quickly and immediately to try to eliminate these groups.

Should they start to grow should they start to get a stronghold there.

We also need to understand the truth and the reality that this is not just an issue related to Afghanistan. I think that's important to point out because you hear a lot of talking heads on TV talking solely about Afghanistan as it relates to this terrace jihadist threat, but in reality, we've got a look at how and where this threat is posed to us around the world as you said II just got back from an active duty to her and a deployment to the horn of Africa, and we see how these Islamist terrorist groups and their affiliated groups. I'll show Bob in Somalia we see other groups in west Africa in countries like Mali, Niger, and Chad and others who are who are very strong, who are growing and who are very active and whose goal is to establish an Islamic caliphate, Islamic governance fueled by this Islamist ideology. Islamist ideology is distinct and different, not the same as the religion of Islam. But if this political Islamist ideology that's fueling these jihadist groups that really does pose a great threat and and also it is the thing I want to point out is the thing that really has never been challenged by state in order to defeat this jihadist that we have to defeat them militarily and ideologically, and there really has never been an effort on ideological front to defeat this threat was Tulsa Gabbert, someone who we had the pleasure to speak to a further extended. About metal your time well in Africa. Recently but even that her last her time serving in the war on terror. What inspired her to be there. Obviously a lot of it all goes back to 9/11, but that shows that this threat is still there and it still happening. It's right and and we started production on this we we started talking about it, really when we were hearing that things were probably not going to go smoothly in Afghanistan we should have talks and and you were like.

Should we start production or looking to production on piece that we don't know what the ending is to be at because we were watching it start to unfold, but we need to document this and we need to understand mistakes, successes and and what the future looks like, and so we started reaching out to these people and Congresswoman Gabbard was someone who we wanted to get her insight because she is a very nuanced view that is not necessarily the same as a lot of the other panelist a lot of the way that was very traditional like you as a documentarian you have to ask all the questions that dig a little deeper and sometimes get the long answers because people are really sealed the news on Fox news are used to giving a 12 second answer. That's a lot of interest in it. I want the two minute answer the free minutes or give me that the mean of it. That's a lot people did great at that. She was one of them that we wanted to reach out to early as you Richard because Natalie issue nuanced, but technically comes from the other side of the aisle again ran against Pres. Trump ran for the Democratic nomination. Some of these interviews felt very political hers oddly did not hurt was all about military engagement and what let us hear and what we do for future right in and like you'd brought up before we reached out to her got a positive response like yes this is this is a very important topic. I would love to be a part of it and have my voice as a part of this and then it kind of just went radio silent for about a month and and and it wasn't like a a is something they're like oh, did we do anything wrong or if it was just like I were just not getting response about when we can schedule it. Then we see her post on Instagram that she had been deployed right because she's in the Army reserves to Africa on a mission with US special forces, and so had to go radio silent because they were combating an Al Qaeda operation in in Africa at the time so just the ability to have these voices at a time when everything was unfolding and people are still actively fighting is is really quite incredible.

I wanted to show you a little bit of both sides of this wanted to hear discussion boards are sweetly vied a lot of people from the other side of fence maybe did not say yes to do this we know she's brave enough to say yes you can give her. Give her props for that allowed people commenting.

I'm not so sure how I feel because their shelves ran against Pres. Trump wanted to make sure we had a broad spectrum of people giving a lot of different nuanced answers think that is the future of politics we would discuss that as well.

Keep going. There's a lot more to cover, and there's a lot more content that happened during this documentary series that we get a producing for last month as well set up carries your watch on social media Facebook or YouTube comment, let me know, so the beginning of each interview just for our own internal purposes, I would say where we were so would be what they recorded it on September 20 I would say it's September 20 and we are here with you know whoever guest because I wanted only for editors and for our team to know but maybe possibly for you to know where we were asked things were unfolding because of these were done very early September I missing a lot of change. So would you like to know that ever finishing the edits. Maybe you could tell me whether you would like to know when I'm doing these interviews, you are missing other not real time there not live where we were.

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We are discussing not only the news, which is the US delegation with the Taliban and for the first time to discuss making sure that they were this diplomatic talks. They stayed on what they were supposed to be doing in terms of handling terrorism as well. So this is the Taliban were talking to the tell man about how they're going to handle future terrorism to let that sink in for a minute. Obviously we have a lot of our top names who you know from the show you've known for the last however many years including your work rebels, Mike Pompeo, you had Wes Smith, my dad, my brother let's go to Mike Pompeo this again for my brand-new series of your paper. Just watching right now if you just tuned it allows you are. We have a brand new series documentary interview series that is going to available very soon is called revenge of the Taliban. We can produce to get real-time last month is all this has unfold. If you want to be the first person to know how to get this series very simple, as I will this specifically for you guys who are watching or dedicated the show each day. Go to ACLJ.org/Taliban do that, fill out the simple form will email you as soon as we have release details that talk about talking with the Taliban and negotiating with the Taliban. Let's scrub over to your former secretary said Mike Pompeo see what he has to say about that. Get this from her new series take a less I can't help but also look to the current Secretary of State who is who stated we have shifted to a diplomatic chapter with the Taliban do think that that you set down with them.

You met him to think that's a a a feasible goal that having a diplomatic relationship.

It sounds crazy coming out of my mouth. Some anew the last 20 years has heard the Taliban as a terrorist organization. About 20 years now like we don't have a diplomatic relationship with them. It's hard for Americans hard for me to even fathom, but you've been there you you met with them is that is that a goal now this is still the same Taliban that harbored Osama bin Laden and caused all kinds of challenges for the United States of America.

They are still playing footsie with Al Qaeda that they may not turned a new leaf. This is not going to be there tonight and see Thomas Jefferson sitting across the table for Mary any mere replica of that other thing they understood was our thing they understood was the resolve of someone to push back against them. That was the only thing that could shape the behavior was in some kind word or something partially issued to them. I think that's a really important clip to play as we hear about the US delegation meeting with the Taliban over the weekend because the trump administration did meet with the Taliban and to get concessions from the Taliban assurances before we withdrew and that's something the Biden administration criticized Pres. Trump and Sec. Pompeo for doing what they were doing at the right time after you pull out and you give up all of the leverage all of the military machinery. All of the security there and you leave Americans behind, then your negotiating from a position of weakness and that's what were seeing from the Biden administration. Unlike what Secretary of State Pompeo did was trying to negotiate from a position of strength so that we can leave in a better position then we are in now, which is in a very dire position. Yeah, they'll just say well you know are negotiating now because I hear we have all of this financial things we could impact them with you know not give the billions and trillions of dollars, we don't do that. The first place. Now that I seem like good luck plan that we shouldn't be funding the Taliban as we know that that's maybe historically something we've done in the past, but you know we discussed that in this new series revenge of the Taliban.

The rise of ISIS but that my dad wrote this is the revenge of the Taliban, not too far off because we look at what's happening there with ISIS and Isis K Delavan 2.0 again a bunch of things all under budget same the same problem all under a bunch of titles we get bogged down with that the media we discussed that as well. We discussed the origins we go through all of it so you are informed and engaged as we say here is important. Have all this information get this was to be 90 minute movie to throw out you guys we still gotta do that but these interviews were so intense was so numerous. We thought we need to give people broad spectrum of what is going on this fight against terrorist worldwide through doing that the new series revenge of Delavan to be the first to know when it's coming.

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Let's hear from Nikki Haley, let's talk about that are allies who have relied on the US for a lot of people would say maybe too much will rely on the US for what they they need now seeing the imagery are seeing the verbiage coming out of the present mouth and and there is a deep concern.

It seems from even after the adversaries, but from our allies that the United States may not be the future strong voice that it's been and combat. That means you have to. I'm serious amazing that when I was at the United Nations. No one wanted to meet unless the US was in the room. Manny Mayo is having meetings and they don't even think US needs to be in a room. That's how far we've fallen back how dangerous it got and there's a lot of repairs that need to be made here and I know Biden came and sat at the land in the US is backward, backward diplomacy work back at all that countries don't want the niceties. That's not what they're talking and want to know you're going to have their back. They want to know that you only make and follow. They don't want to wonder what you're thinking. That day when you wake up in the morning. I think that meaning see it where Frank is trying to tell that he may need to become less dependent on the US, not less dependent on China and less dependent on the US which is shocking. The idea that the US is now asking Russia for help in dealing with Afghanistan, which is I'm thinkable.

And the idea that we're not.

We have no plans on how were going to go encounter care and not once did Biden say we should not acknowledge that Caliban as the head of the Afghanistan government and that was a prime opportunity for the US to lead the charge that we cannot acknowledge that Caliban, we can't give them a we can't in any way recognize that he missed the mark on those from Nikki Haley for a master so you know her from all of her time in South Carolina is involved in the trump administration so that we discuss also is her family served in Afghanistan. Her husband, it was a very intense conversation will say that with with Nikki Haley use of these I have a very educational tone, but hers got very passionate, very intense, because it impacted her directly.

Right.

And as you mentioned, there are many interviews here that are very personal, that we get the policy. They're all experts in one way or another about the things were talking about, but also a lot of them had so many personal angles to it and the way that a lot of these people they've they've grown up during their careers in government and have all been in the shadow of 9/11, so to speak where a lot of the policy decisions and a lot of what formed them are that attack on 9/11 and on the United States from Al Qaeda and how this entire war was in the backdrop of their public service and so it was an important thing for us to get those personal side stories out as well and I think you do that very effectively with many of these guests and so it's not just a documentary with talking heads about this is what we should have done or shouldn't of done it really does hit in a different way because as were watching it unfold. There also having this emotive response to what they're saying as well as the reasons when we decide to make this is a known because right now because I want this to be so they were talking about two years ago I remember back in 2021 we got out of Afghanistan.

No, these interviews are done days after we interview Col. Smith before the show every week for many years now.

We'll go into a lot of detail with him is he essentially created the dignified transfer the where the fall in the bodies of the fallen are brought to Dover transferred to their families as a whole. That whole ceremony we saw created. That was his concept to hate you. The team lead that under Pres. Obama led that because it originally was not something that was that family went to the public. Went to I and he said I think that the public needs to be here and he said to Col. Smith as well as a team, said develop this.

We discussed that a lot you do that every day.

This wasn't something that we just see one CD out every time the tub like this big tragedy happens 13 people you harshly died. This is that he had to deal with each day.

He worked there as he developed this is a really interesting perspective you and in May we should just go to that that's not this organelle but to go to West Smith.

You've heard of the show many times he talked about the source or car wrap up teacher. I wrapped up each interview asking about the feelings of families of the fallen or people who who served in Afghanistan who feel like maybe they served and may, as we saw it all come crumbling down here with his answer to that question. Get this Col. West Matthew from here countless times was take a listen.

A lot of people who have family in the military, specifically ones that those that lose their life or critically injured or have major complications, even mentally. From this they do question whether it was worth it. Whether it was worth their family member to do and I know that W question.

I'm sure that you got asked all the time which you did. My son, daughter, brother, sister die in vain. What is this worth it at the end of the day for those who were just recently had their dignified transfer and for those previously involved in the entire war in Afghanistan for 20 years feels like 20 years got unraveled in the last three days. Do you feel what would be your statement to those people when they would come to you. What's the response you can give to someone who is saying is my child die for good reason. Yeah and I got asked that a lot during my 3+ years at Dover Air Force Base and and officials, and even those of us who just have friends have been asked that same question recently did my loved one died bang in my answer to that is always the same that any time you stand up to evil, and you find it. It's never-ending politicians and sometimes generals and admirals make mistakes, but the we we have an all volunteer military. All of us who have served for the last 3040 years we raised our right hand and we volunteered to serve and so the military, by design. We follow orders and as a professional organization and so when you die in the service like that every person in the military takes a sacred oath, they raise their right hand and they take an oath and we live by that oath and by that honor system and if you die honoring your valves. You have not died in vain and in the case of the global war on terror. None of these people who have died habit have died in vain and I and I was very quick to tell the families that was just a small clip of roughly 40 minute interview we did with Col. West method and highly emotional experience to discuss all of this with him. I think you will usually look at the list of names UFC had the once will pop out when it Nikki Haley or Mike Pompeo or David Tulsa Gabbard are right in the center is a congressman eligible he had a lot but I was so happy that we were able to have a really deep discussion with West because he someone who you hear all the time. You may go while wisest person, even though they show what what what is a part to play in the world.

When you hear this, there'll be no question you if you give you perspective on his career that you'll never be the same. You never seem to say why because of the stuff that he not only created but had to deal with on a daily basis for so many years as a chaplain, and as you get the creator essentially of the dignified transfer to do with it each and every day very intense interview I won that even my preparation did not go the way I thought it would got which happens you when you make movies you make series you you you want to be able to pivot with it. When interview takes you to a different place and it did that what is probably the most emotional of one we had filled with a lot of a lot of tears a lot of sadness that we did that interview. I believe that you believe the dignified transcript on a Saturday or Sunday. We did it immediately the next mornings of Monday morning, when what was I to discuss what that experience was like after we all watched it and sort of horror throughout that entire experience.

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Also I learned a lot. I did by doing these interviews.

One was from our guest editor James Langford of Oklahoma who not only is center is also a member of the Homeland security committee, so I mostly had a lot to say about that. We talked about was many things going to play this we all watch those images of the thousands and thousands of people trying to flee the airport. Thousands were getting on the airplane to come to America to try to leave what they knew was going to be a terrorist regime in their country after 20 years of relative freedom Center, life is one of those people who stood up and said you know what Oklahoma will take those refugees only some of those refugees were happy. Do it like a lot of Republicans did not and I look at the heart of it go well. As someone who is a Christian believer there. You sure that he be vetted. Make sure these people are who they say they are, and I hope that a lot of us can agree that we should be welcoming a lot of them into our country as they seek refuge beyond the terrorist regime that look could say whatever we want. Sadly, we were part of the default.

Here, so let's hear from James Langford. The Afghan people, whether it be the translators or our people to follow inside Americans were kind of metaphorically front of the bus from Vita ministration as are people who who abandon ship ran away quickly.

That's the opposite of what I received in these interviews are conducted over the last few weeks. It's very compassionate people, very sweet people and we as Americans are compassionate people.

The conservative often get labeled in a way that I don't really appreciate as we can all look to that though seems it happened a month ago and see the horrors that they were and say how can we help what we do. I know you are one of the people who discussed taking in refugees in Oklahoma like somewhat controversial things but not really, you know, I think for you it becomes a very loud minority online that people think represents conservatives or Republicans of think these are not compassionate people went up. I want to know the wish of decision-making to come to that conclusion could look at some of the states and some other people and in your party have taken an opposite approach for speaking to my mind was that all these different veterans of the war in Afghanistan. They came to me and said these are folks that I know they fought alongside me. I know damn I know their families. These are folks that later life and live your freedom loving people. These are the folks that are fighting against the Taliban. These are terrorists. These are the exact type of people that we want to advance in that we want to be able to support and so how I came to that decision was talking to so many veterans of the war in Afghanistan and what they were saying about those individuals.

Now they want them to be able to get out. So that's the first part, the same parties in Oklahoma, we took in a Lotta the Burmese 48 years ago when they were fleeing during that time. Those are thriving members of our community.

At this point very adjacent lots of Vietnamese churches in Oklahoma with lots of committees to engage in business people and all kinds of thoughts. We did this is a state five decades ago with the Vietnamese. We will do this again with Afghans that are coming into our country, will probably have about 1800 2000 Afghans that will move into Oklahoma should be vetted individuals that should be folks that work alongside of our military works alongside of her State Department just randomly grabbed people that get the standard able to move in Oklahoma.

They need to be fully vetted and he does the process but mostly spoke set up that are moving this direction are exactly that those that are not fully vetted. They don't need to come to the United States. Also, we know who they are and what their background is now the economy mostly out there that says a lot about you though says a lot about the state of Oklahoma. The gas would support this kind of move. In general, I think that it's the Christian thing to do is someone who I know is that a person of faith that is important to to disconnect. Maybe you partisan politics actually look at the heart of it again. I was sitting Langford James Langford from Oklahoma.

Another one of our incredible guests on the brand-new series revenge of the Taliban coming very soon to be the first to know about how to get that ACLJ.org/tell Ben fill out a very simple form will notify you as soon as there is more information you'll know first before anybody and it is an in-depth incredible experience. I hope you enjoy as much as you can. II hope it like a fire for some of you and what we can do and what we can do in the future. We discussed all that to be the future that we did also look to the past. We look to 20 years ago to September 11 to the creation of the war on terror and with whom I was very deeply involved witches Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft somewhat controversial figure.

Some people guy who is deeply involved in that her original decision to start the war on terror to start the war in Afghanistan and Iraq and again we provided a a myriad of different points of view to some people who are very much for Thor on on terror very much for the war against Afghanistan and some who were not supportive of the war in Iraq and the future that came out of it. So again I wanted to give you guys a multilayered approach. So, here is John Ashcroft, former Atty. Gen. of the United States where someone was there. Day one from the world war on terror. Knowing the ending and the knowing that we did of 20 years of a lot of good that happened, but knowing the ending. Do believe that this decision with redfish make to get involved in Afghanistan yeah I do I you know I think you have to look at the 20 years of relative calm in the United States and in a variety of other settings that came from the displacement of the terrorist agenda in Afghanistan that was it was the maintenance of the piece. It was fighting them there instead of fighting them here and I think we would always hope that we could eventually have the long-term peace but we would also say that you know we gotta be grateful for what we avoided in terms of the terrorist activity, and I think so. What I'm saying is the last 20 years were pretty successful in repressing terrorist activity, and you look at a variety of other terrorist groups that sought to assemble resources and gain momentum. There they were. They were either taken out or severely diminished in their capacity during the 20 year period and that's valuable. I don't know that you do anything that has infinity. Infinity or forever involved but 20 years is something to be grateful for and I think it's it Mark some success and it all, though, was a collapse is is undermines the idea of the success which had been attained again. That is just one of just a short clip.

These extensive interviews, like we've had. We played with multiple we haven't gotten to recruit now my dad, my brother, so many great guests to see if you did Georgia's very beginning to show you like Nikki Haley, like I represent of waltz we had on West Smith again consider life or do we just saw a few minutes ago Tulsa Gabbert incredible list of people who joined us to discuss all that was happening in Afghanistan and what's continue to happen with what we call the revenge of the Taliban as you wrap up the show. What I think you all for watching.

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