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When Caregivers Fear

Hope for the Caregiver / Peter Rosenberger
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March 26, 2021 3:00 am

When Caregivers Fear

Hope for the Caregiver / Peter Rosenberger

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March 26, 2021 3:00 am

Struggling with fear remains one of the most difficult things for family caregivers. We discussed this on our broadcast recently and asked callers to share their stories. 

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And Rosenberg is not a preacher but he's got great as a family. How are you feeling going on like this show that we are approaching the heart of a caregiver permission for all biblical worldview to help speak directly to the heart ache. The fear and guilt, the despair, the resentment, the rage of the loneliness of isolation that all caregivers go through at some point in their life. If not for seasons of their life and we are taking that going to those places to speak comfort and strength and help you get to a path of safety where you can navigate these very very turbulent waters as a caregiver with a little more commerce will healthiness and even there, I whispered a little more joy. 888-589-8840 888-589-8840 if you want to be a part of the show and we love having on the call flushing him a bit of a call malfunction so I just answer the calls level the year, but I think we got that under control this week and we look forward to your calls. We always will start off with some things in Scripture and that ties into are usually are tribute question which is been lately. A musical trivia question and and this can affect our topic today and some of throw this out to you and see if you know it, and is as usual left like these hymns alike to pull from the sales because I think there's a treasure trove for us of things that will sustain us so here's one if you know this. You're welcome to call, go to step over here to the caregiver keyboard and this is that this is a powerful him and I'm just complete slowly. If you know it you call this is what were the talk about this he means today to us as caregiver know what this is know you know the tune right if you know that 888-589-8840 888-589-8840.

There's stances and that him to go to directly apply to what we're talking about today and that subject is fear. Are you afraid you afraid of what's going on with you.

Are you struggling with fear. So we caregivers are so many people look at our country run them into the world as we dealt with this global pandemic. We have a lot of things that are fear worthy that we face in our life.

What are you afraid of today what is going on with you that is causing you to be ripped with fear. 888-589-8840 if you want to share with that is 888-589-8840.

Let's talk about some scriptures about fear. First John 418 there is no fear in love but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves torment or punishment when translations that in the one who fears is not perfected in love. Second Timothy 17 for God is not given us a spirit of fear finish, but of power and love the sound month one translations is power, love and discipline. Proverbs 1024 what the wicked fears will come upon it but the desire of the righteous will be granted. Proverbs 910 the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom and the knowledge of the holy one is understanding is that these are these are just a sample of the many Scriptures that speak to our fear if we have quite a bit of fear issues as is just the human condition. That's why the phrase fear not, or don't be afraid to be not afraid occurs over 100 times in Scripture and and then it has all kinds of different ways.

It says that same thing that even goes even further, because God knows that were afraid it is caregivers we live with an enormous amount of fear you, what can I happen how we can get through this with what know what happens if something happens to me, but if they do this with. What if this happens and we live in this terrible bondage of a fear and by the way, at the end of this show and all the shows on on this network. There's a disclaimer phrase that the views of of this program and don't necessarily reflect the views of that work there, you've all heard the skin thing, just in case somebody goes off the rails which you liable for me to do, but I think I would get one for me this is the views of the of the host of this program are not things that he owns better things that God is working out of his life today because these are things that I still struggle with that. I think I will for the rest of my life.

I hope I don't struggle with it is much as I used to do and I think experience with walking with God through this gives you that confidence that through many dangers, toils and snares we have already come in. So when you look back at it at some of these things in your life for God to sustain you. That gives you the courage to trust them with things that are still ahead of you and and this is the whole point of being able to to anchor ourselves in this you know the old hymn, O God, our help in ages past know referred back to okay this is what he's done in ages past.

I stop him up this morning but this is this is what we do for ourselves, to anchor ourselves okay. He's brought us through this and he's brought others through this that gives me the courage to trust them with what I'm facing right now.

Now my question to you, though, is as a caregiver. What are you afraid of not been asking week over the last couple weeks to those you been listening regular MOI will give a shout out to Jane added Illinois. We had a lovely conversation this week and I do appreciate that there was a lot of fun and and she said she's been a long time listener and faithfully gets up early morning listens to show and and Jane.

If you're breaking bread this morning. I know it smells wonderful to give a great real estate.

She's up she's one of cooking and loves to cook and bake bread and and so forth. And she's built houses with her husband. She gave a great real estate tip. To me this week when you put your house on the market always have fresh bread baking or have just finished baking fresh bread with before show the house because it really makes the house just a more attractive and in the and people just love the smell of everything on anything but subway.

They have all that going all the time and I don't even know how good the British, but it's the smell of fresh bread exhibit feel better soon Jane, thank you for that but but those you been listening for for some time know that we've been discussing different things like you don't humor in which a favorite song and and all I can step in today and wanted a little bit deeper into what you afraid of what are you afraid of what is going on with you. How do you feel, and we can speak to that this morning together, which is what we talk about ad.

I'm not here solve your problems in more than yourself month.

What I'm hoping and praying in this. The purpose of the show is to dig into the isolation of of the caregivers life and bring a little bit of hopefully some camaraderie and some some daylight into the dark places because in our isolation, dark thoughts overtake us. But when we are connected with other people, particularly people who have walk through these things. It gives us a little bit more strength and courage to face the challenges we have.

I'm bringing 35 years of experience in in doing just that, and I stood by myself in the empty hospital court watching my wife. He will serve more times and I think you done these things of walk to the hospital parking garage that there my car all alone didn't have a show like this didn't have a podcast so I understand this program talk about today and hear your story. 888589858B Rosenberg at about 3 1/2 decades as a caregiver.

I've spent my share of nights in the hospital sleeping and waiting rooms on foldout cot shares. Even the floor sometimes on sofas and a few times in the doghouse. But let's still talk about that is caregivers we have to sleep at uncomfortable places but we don't have to be miserable. We use pillows for my pillow.com. These things are great to have a patented interlocking feel that adjusting your individual sleep needs and for caregivers. Try to sleep in all the different places we have to sleep leave me our needs get ramped up significantly. Think about how clean your pillows are in the covert world were all fanatical about clean. Can you wash your pillows with my pillows for my pillow.com if we throw in the washer and dryer.

We do it all the time 10 year warranty guarantee not to go flat 60 day moneyback guarantee made in the USA is a caregiver you need rest. I going to my pillow.com type in the promo code caregiver you get 50% off the four pack which includes two premium pillows and to go anywhere, pillows also receive a discount on anything else on the website. When using your promo code caregiver is my pillow.com promo code caregiver for my friend Ron and my life is that just picture her pointing lag. This is where I make and I know that I can't stand this woman is at 80 surgeries both her legs and ceasing that she saying that a bit Walter Reed couple time to think and we did when we were up there, was wounded soldiers she got up there and she wears her legs uncovered as of right at the beginning when soldiers were coming back from the Middle East and Afghanistan and Iraq and pretty banged up a lot of amputees, a lot of women coming back is amputees from these IDs and so forth and Gracie got up there and she wears her prosthetic legs uncovered in their sheep.

She walks on stage and just blisters with that song and retakes of the effect it had on those wounded soldiers was. It's hard to describe. And you have to see it, you had to been there to see what it did to and I remember we were doing a thing with them. The Republican Senate caucus all the Republican senators through a dinner for the wounded soldiers there and Gracie was the closer for that night, and afterwards this is right at the beginning of the things people really were quite sure what was all going on with all these wounded warriors coming back and they didn't know quite how to respond as a nation. Gracie was there and she she got up there and just let let them know that there's there's a place that she can. You can stand solidly on this and she pointed him to to Christ report safety and afterwards all these wounded warriors were clustered around her. I mean that they were just the sum of Heather IV bags of prosthetics of wheelchairs in their altars clustered around men and women. I watched two US senators you know who they were told their names and they were try to get to Gracie just to thank you for coming and they could get through the crowd of wounded soldiers to get to Gracie and they lifted me about the senator said don't worry about us. Were not important. She's right where she needs to be, and always love that story about the moment that that was one of those great moments when I saw somebody who had trusted God and her great ones being able to offer strength to others and their great ones.

And that's the whole point of the show the Sultan of the gospel and Paul says that in Corinthians we comfort one another with the same comfort we ourselves have received so that we can extend that comfort others from the God of all comfort and that's that that's what were doing what were doing this morning and as a caregiver. I understand you the fear that grips you financial fear emotional for physical fear.

There's all kinds of things out that what happens at the wonder off.

If you have somebody you love that has some type of cognitive impairment, whether through disease such as Alzheimer's about our special needs kids with autism, but absent the wonder off the middle night you live in that fear what items they choke all of those things go on. You gotta love what is an alcoholic or inadequate happens if they hurt themselves or someone else. These are these are real fears that caregivers deal with and were speaking to that this morning I got some folks are calling and they say they know the song list talk to. The song was this back over here at the caregiver keyboard. Here's the course of the song.

I Elaine in Louisiana. Thank you very much Ursula lay good morning, how are you feeling well. I'm just lovely.

You knew this him yet.

That's about know that's that's on Christ the solid rock estate not that another course is not my hope is built on nothing less.

The court that's that's that's different. So that's my hope is my hope is built on nothing less is on Christ the solid rock I stand, my hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness and this is I need no other argument I need no other plea. It is enough that Jesus died and that he died for me that's the course of this would okay now faith is found a recipe very similar court. The rest of her hymns well there very similar hymns. They sound a lot like and they are very similar hymns.

There's a verse in this one that I wanted to get to specifically on this and it talks about our subject matter today are subject matter. Today's fear you hide how you with fear. Today Elaine are you doing okay I'm doing great. When I learned the hard way and not in what was that how did you learn that is a lot of people right now that are struggling nice hotel and tell them what you learned what had boringly -38 the Lord woke me up with the phone that is not agreement out at work and he's not and I didn't know I get my work baiting on the first 830 days to eight years, what with everything that we can think it might get. I'm not one time Gracie that when you had that him standing on the promises. One time Gracie and I were on James Robinson show Texas did many years ago and Gracie had just become a double amputee earlier and she wanted to make a point. So right there on the show she took her leg off and and wanted to to make a point on this and I was trying to hold it so it wouldn't follow shoes and James Sittler to look at it and Betty were looking into can and up.

There was about rather than on the table and I put her leg up bouncing on top of that ballasted look James you standing on the promises and I thought it was funny. I don't know just a change in behavior, like who are these people while they on our shift. A lot of people don't understand that all really count that morning at our gradient.

All have the Lord woke me up.

My pastor even went back to tell my brother eat. We can now I don't know what were content with an let me got your past, but that might call it a great would you amaze your pastors my husband can no longer and I'll look at the all he could make it right arm just to cut you give up like not all of the hope that with people and are you without hand and hit it right elevation. If I turn to write hotel they cannot help but our company every thing alarm everything. Anything that could get me back right everything the cat. I mean, I may think a lot now my love download a love that Gracie did the same thing when she was a in the hospital she would be worshiping as you have some type of program on with you just worship and prayer going on and I've watched her and she would sit there in her hospital bed. Her hands were just lifted up.

She's just praise and worship tears coming out her face and nurses would come in and check all of her monitors and so forth.

While she had her hands as she did, even though they keep you in, out, they just kind of worked around her. She was sit there worship and praise to get her hospital bed itself like your husband did the same thing that I will one caregivers howling that with a brain injury.

Don't be quiet not you never know when their brain is working 24 seven music quite well. I tell you 24 seven year we had right to make that life is all that is great advice to do that right, God, for the Lord inhabits the praises Elaine thank you so much for that call. That is a great word here and when you're in the hospital so forth. Make sure that your plane breaks music. There's plenty of people speak, fear and death in all custom things around you don't have to be that life yourself with music.

Gracie Rosenberger 26 years ago I walked for the first time in two prosthetic legs. I saw firsthand how important quality prosthetic limbs are 20 PT this understanding compelled me to establish standing without more than a dozen years we've been working with the government of Ghana in West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis we purchase and ship equipment and supplies and with the help and inmates in a Tennessee prison. We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All of this is to point others to Christ. The source of my help and strength, please visit standing without.com to learn more and participate in lifting others out that standing with help.com. I'm Gracie and I'm standing without, this is is caregiver lost mom affiliate securing the show. The Truth Network if you come on the show the login PFR right to begin the ship to hear the tail end of Stu Epperson show with love from Robbie Gilmore and Stu Epperson. They do a great work and he is open over the Truth Network and the air on this network as well were all partnering together and you'll hear there's there showing great teaching that they offer and I like listen to a justice of getting ready for do it on my show prep and I do prep a little bit for the show they'd never script the show but I do have some level of prep that goes into it, at least turn on machines and it's a but I do want to think them in his radio network and other feelings around the station over 200 stations now. The show and this is a real testament to you all is an audience in the need that is there for family caregivers to be able to to have a place where they can hear words that speak life in the midst of the situation. I speak fluent caregiver. This is your my 35 years of help me understand what the challenges are for family caregiver but more importantly, our Savior that that's his native tongue.

He speaks caregiver that's his native tongue. That's who we is and we want to address the needs and the heartache and the challenges that caregivers have in that context it if you will be a part of the show. 888-589-8840 888-589-8840 and also we have our our podcast. Everything is available in go and download the past shows and other things I do and do other interviews I have on the honor podcast. We put out several a week and it sounded I hope the caregiver.calm hope for the caregiver to come on every podcast a platform out there. Apple whatever and Amazon and it's a free podcast, we've got over 500 episodes and sometimes opened up bone stuff music with Gracie me both of us and usually with Gracie is involved with it musically. I'm usually at their piano somewhere, but she does a couple things a cappella works of other bands and so forth.

That is, that is really quite moving. She's got duet she's done with them, our friend John Erickson taught that are just just move your heart so there's STUFF this out there.

Please take advantage of it. Caregiver is hard enough, it's hard when your loan and so this is the purpose of the show let's go to stay in art. We have attributive questions of that for the last half-hour of those now just joining us. It was a musical trivia about the topic of fear and apply to him and Stan knew he knew what the song was so Stan is the Illinois good morning Stan how are you feeling tired of more not been up all 5 o'clock moderate to share that with you caregiver. My wife even though she is almost over caregiver but I go every day coming on for 365 day window but my greatest fear could keep interlocking got Alzheimer's.

Bipolar for schizophrenia. If you got a clean disorder all mixed in together, but my great experience for getting my name forgetting my room.

I you know and in this earth at this. I want to give you little displaced on this, but in this earth.

That's probably going to happen at some point that'll happen.

I know however however stand. This is the promise that we have in Scripture, and that is God will never forget you. In fact he says it is said that it's engraved on the palm of his hand, and I think that I think we can all say with reasonable medical certainty that Scripture is a foreshadowing of what happened with Christ because of what happened with his scars on his hand to that that is a picture of that how much he knows who you are and he will never forget who you and as she goes through nice things. It is this disease takes more more control of her life. III. My prayer is that you hold onto that and that he will look to hold onto that song today.

You knew the song today. Tell me what song was again my limelight, nothing with hope and right well that's that's on Christ the solid rock I stand, this song was my faith is not a resting place in him and read to you a Marie to one of the stances of this. This is why I selected this hymn, though diverse Ibrahim's love people get confused here, but here's one for you okay enough for me that Jesus saves. This is my fear and doubt a sinful soul. I came to him, he'll never cast me out. I need no other argument I need no other plea. It is enough that Jesus died and that he died for me. That's it. You know, and I think that's a great thing for us to all lean on that it you know the Indians by fear and doubt a sinful soul. I came to him, he'll never cast me out and and and and that, by implication, that means you belong to him and ramp as well as your as your wife through all of her illness. You'll hear his grace and his mercy and his compassion is salvation is greater than bipolar. It's greater than dementia is greater than Alzheimer's is greater than the nursing homes is greater than Cova.

19 and you have to stand at the window and look at her but he doesn't. But I am alive so much and I don't know BRI and no bully myself. I got a cup of muscular dystrophy and I walk with a walker and take things take care of things around the house Gail, but eight.

My strength is built on him in.

He gives me strength to get up everyday and a few things in it to caramelize. Think she means CE. Give me strength for that strength for the day bright hope for tomorrow you ever heard that phrase from greatest essays on the strength for the day bright hope for the binary bloodlust verse for you on the stand. My great physician heals the sick, the lost, he came to save.

For me, his precious blood he shed for me his life. He gave an that is that's that's very personal stand. That means you personally.

That's what that the hymn writer saying there and we serve a personal God.

He died for all of us to be that for each of us and that is what strengthens us through these dark days these long valleys of the shadow of death, and that's where you are, but he says what he say about the value set of death I will fear what I will know you will because with me, even to the Internet age, I will fear no evil for thou art with me and in him is stand listen to you like him you like to listen to the hymns… I've been in the contemporary church for years and now to switch and write my life for the better. I started listening regular hymns again and ended up forgotten some of the I'm getting back to my roots will would be okay if I sent you a copy of my CD that has a bunch of them on their with their II wouldn't I would love it while to put you on hold is called songs for the caregiver and I just sit at the piano and played several of my get Gracie to sing a few things. I got some friends of mine to join with me. There's one on there that I did and arrangement of the old rugged cross with Jesus, keep me near the cross near the cross is that his name and him and a friend about playing the violin on it.

It'll break your heart when it was live. We were doing during communion at church, and you could even hear some of the communion trays clanking around with me and I thought I believe that on there because I thought that was just so appropriate that I thought you might enjoy that. So I will put you on hold stated and when you get your information going to send you this CD and will get that to you and I hope will be a source of blessing to use go sauce for the caregiver. I've got to go to some other calls here Diane in Texas. Diana good morning, how are you feeling on her right will you sound great, Diana. You sound great. Tell me what's going on very quickly here I'm sharing my my caregiver godchild to be caregiver my family and my crank my quick and now there's great over here. I have no fear I have sometimes used the wrong word and wiry all you say I'm right about my cat my crank at this well at court. There's a difference between not having a clear of the worst and economy estate negative event happened. A large, but when you're with you. Have no fear can be open every door and you just walk behind them you don't believe I just don't know how to explain it works 20 4X nontechnology economic part just like I have a special name for a faculty 29 statement?

The q. week check now not accepting them and I can't wake me out, but not alone and confined to wheelchair five years old time fascia the last one cause additional brain damage and who we are and that's what matters the wheelchair again matter to him because he with an my guardian angel failed sky. Oh, they are so blessed to have you. I feel the other way around.

Don showed me well I think you said it just exactly how you needed to say that I appreciate you calling on that very much so I do appreciate you listen Diana, thank you very much for the strong words and that we had to go to a break here this this is a show and how can we take that together Scripture see what the Lord says he's addressed all of his issues for us this or the circle with these you ever struggled to trust God when lousy things happen to you. I'm Gracie Rosenberger, 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident leading 80 surgeries in both legs and became I questioned why God allowed something so brutal to happen to me. But over time, my questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing with help more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis. We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in a Tennessee prison. We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All of death is to point others to Christ. The source of my help and strength, please visit standing with help.com to learn more and participate in lifting others@standingwithout.com. I'm Gracie and I am staining with help speed Rosenberger to math 3 1/2 decades as a caregiver. I've spent my share of nights in the hospital sleeping and waiting rooms on foldout cot shares. Even the floor sometimes on sofas and a few times in the doghouse.

But let's still talk about that as caregivers we have to sleep at uncomfortable places but we don't have to be miserable. We use pillows for my pillow.com. These things are great. They have a patented interlocking feel that adjusting your individual sleep needs and for caregivers. Try to sleep in all the different places we have to sleep leave me our needs get ripped up significantly. Think about how clean your pillows are in the covert world were all fanatical about cleaning.

Can you wash your pillows with my pillows for my pillow.com if we throw in the washer and dryer. We do it all the time 10 year warranty guarantee not to go flat 60 day moneyback guarantee made in the USA as a caregiver you need rest.

I going to my pillow.com type in the promo code caregiver you get 50% off the four pack which includes two premium pillows and to go anywhere, pillows also receive a discount on anything else on the website. When using your promo code caregiver is my pillow.com promo code caregiver standing during presence of God in the midst of our difficulties as Gracie with Russ Taft from her CD resilient. If you want to copy that go out to hope for the caregiver.com just click on her CD cover and whatever you want to do to help. So if you like what you hear on the show to fix meaning something to you be a part of and help sponsor the show through organization standing with Hope you for Gracie story on this and you can sponsor the show directly will send you a copy of her CD. I think you'll love it. She is she's some kind of singer and that I do okay on the piano deceased. She says I do so and that brings us to our our final block here today for the show and we did art at the beginning the show and at the beginning this half-hour. We did our musical tribute which is the him my faith is found a resting place, not in device or creed.

I trust the ever living will and his wounds for me shall plead enough for me that Jesus saves.

This is my fear and doubt a sinful soul.

I came to him, he'll never cast me out.

My heart is leaning on the word, the living word of God. Salvation by my Savior's name salvation through his blood, the last dance is my great physician heals the sick lost. He came to save. For me, his precious blood blood he shed for me his life he gave in the course is I need no other argument I need no other plea. It is enough that Jesus died and that he died for me and that is a great hymn of faith, a wonderful hymn to lean on in those dark places we get to it as a caregiver as well of these hymns because they been around for a while they seasoned out interview I'll cook with an iron skillet, cook with iron Dutch oven skillet little saucepans, whatever of it I got it all. I have IRON I hear the cook with your Montana. I like I like it with her and but the key is when you cook with any type of iron skillet's and so forth. They need to be seasoned.

Not much good if if they're not and that's what our faith needs to be seasoned in these hymns reflect the faith of people who went through seasoning and that's how they able to write the success why these hymns been around for so long.

I'm not knocking the music this commit to having this wonderful sauce with her. Something about Congregational style hymns that anchor us deeply and in the end, and the way I look at is what is this all that you want played at your funeral and you know and in these hymns come to mind more than anything else.

So that's why I address them. I think we have a doctrinal treasure trove in the hymnal that we've gotten away from and I'm determined I'm gonna bring it back and try to Playboy that makes sense to folks in and this is meaningful to the list go to Teresa and Kansas Teresa good morning, how are you feeling I'm feeling fine I I loved hearing your key screen song came last, Grace passed away headed out plane accident may be just a month before we were saved, that he was very popular was actually 40, 40 years ago this summer. Well, that's only got I I called in Peter because I have a very close friend. She's about 30 she has a six-year-old boy.

She's been taking care of her mother-in-law with end-stage Alzheimer's in wheelchair found and now her husband been diagnosed with multiple metastasized cancer and she asked me if I could find a book or something to help her explain what's going on to her six-year-old boy. Well I don't know that I would be able to give the book to think about doing it.

The books for children on this and and I may still just a been little bit tied up with stuff and I haven't gotten to it. It's on my list of things I want to do, but I think that I wrote my book simple enough that she'll be able to extrapolate for it and give to information to her son enough to you what I want to put you on hold and I'll send you send a copy of you will get her information us in a copy of send her a copy of my book and is called hopefully caregiver and it's a very simple way and that's the name of the show. That's the name of the book this thing of everything I do as I tell people it's so easy you can read in the bathroom.

I know because that's what I wrote oh I'm just getting and it's it's but it's it.

I wrote it for caregivers and in specifically trying to to delve into these things and and help point caregiver sickness above. It may be a little over six euros.

Even though I look at my writing style and I think now it's probably not over six euros, but it it's but I think that it will be meaningful to her and give her of the vocabulary to explain it to him and and at some point I'll be glad to know and and he's well that there they're welcome to call them together to the show and we can talk about things on the air.

Whatever that they have issues going on her little boy you see on love to have you cowrite a character you know I remember my when my son oldest son was nine years old and he looked at me and this is Gracie been going to surgery after surgery. Surgery and he looked me at nine years old and he said why should I trust God with my pain when I see what he allows mom to go through and I know a lot of pastors and theologians who probably wouldn't want to answer that question from a nine-year-old and I looked at my son and I said I don't know why your mom has to suffer. I don't understand. I don't know why God… Here's what I do know that he stretched out his arms.

He gave his life for us on the cross. He took all of this on himself if he loves us that much. I'm willing to trust it with the stuff with your mom and maybe that's a good starting point for the six-year-old boy because I think six euros can understand and we don't have that we don't have to have and I I would help underwrite you know I think you probably understand more than you. You really think you got well, I don't think we have to have collocated answers and make yourself feel better, but I think we go back to what do we know what do we know and that's why on my CD a put Jesus loves me this I know for the Bible tells me so and sometimes it's the simple things that anchor us and I want people to know that that did we get so wrapped up in trying to get to the.

The these know yeah I know he loved it.1st got on the cross for sins and for the world and that it now to heat. He loves you.

He knows who you are.

He knows of the six-year-old boy. He knows and yes I mean there's miracle child to have a born in October.

Anyway, dear Cal. February will and in in that your starting point out with us a starting point.

I will put you on hold and and get information for this lady in the house into a sinner copy my book and we can start from there and then and then she certainly welcome to call the show with with her son will will have a conversation on the air which we don't have to give out any personal information just whatever whatever is on their mind whatever's on their heart. So hang on will put you on hold their list go to Jeanette in Louisiana Jeanette good morning good morning how you feeling great right lie. Did you get what I sent you. I hated about three weeks ago, but I have been thick with fungus infection but I have where I had cut my finger and it had turned black and then I loved him antibiotic on it and it went through my body and floor Molalla in my file. Then I had in the morning but I woke up early today and I want to tell you on the phone that I know on the number one is near the quality and the name would know it all. I landed trying gain effect on land that you like to hear Gracie racing what you hear Gracie seeing through it all always going his heart out yet does a great job with that admission at the hollow did it read our prayer nothing but the D could be every hour already, because it is well with Mark Powell lineup on piercing balm in Gilead yet found a home at the hollow baby, I love it and I will Gilead's that I think out the Gracie's version of that up against, but anybody on that one and that is she really bought into that one and be still my soul, so I'm glad it's been it. Now you feeling all right now with you with all the medical stuff going on with you feeling okay now you got a ways to go back to and my affection when in my body like on taken next. Fadden, 500 mL) today, but in very painful they'll learn to trust in this you that God is what I'm doing with Dr. Joseph do are you resting properly.here, met someone had called me about five minutes. Let me know and I will very much appreciate for the call of procedure give the call you rest up and drink a lot of fluids and rest, and I thank you so much for the call. This is Rosemary this is hope for the caregiver. No more going to hope for the caregiver.take advantage of what I put out there for podcast share no free podcast think Benjamin see you next time.

This is John Butler and I produce hope for the caregiver with Peter Rosenberger.

Some of you know the remarkable story of Peter's wife Gracie and recently Peter talk to Gracie about all the wonderful things that have emerged from her difficult journey.

Take a listen Gracie.

When you envision doing a prosthetic limb outreach. Did you ever think that inmates would help you do that, not in a million years.

When you go to the facility run by core civic and you see the faces of these inmates that are working on prosthetic limbs that you have helped collect from all of the country that you put out the plea for and their disassembly sell these legs like what you have your own prosody and arms and arms everything when you see all this. What do you make me cry because I see the smiles on their faces and I know I know what it is to be locked in place where you can't get out without somebody else allowing you to get out course, being in the hospital so much and so long and so that these men are so glad that they get to be doing as as one man said something good family with my hands. Did you know before you became an amputee that parts of prosthetic limbs could be recycled now had no idea and I thought a peg leg. I thought of wooden legs. I never thought of titanium and carbon legs and flex feet. The legs and all that.

I never thought about that as you watch these inmates participate in something like this, knowing that there there helping other people. Now walk the providing the means for the supplies to get over there.

What is it due to you, just on the heart level. I wish I could explain to the world. What I see in here and I wish that I could be able to go and say the this guy right here Denise go to Africa with that. I never not feel that way out every time you know you always make me have to leave. I don't want to leave them. II feel like I'm at home with them and I feel like that we have a common bond that would've never expected that only God could put together.

Now that you've had experience with it what you think of the faith-based programs. The core civic offers.

I think they're just absolutely awesome and I think every prison out there should have faith-based programs like this because the return rate of the men that are involved in this particular faith-based program and other ones like it, but I know about this one are. It is just an amazingly low rate compared to those who don't happen and I think that that says so much that has anything to do with me just has something to do with God using somebody broken to help other broken people. If people want to donate or use prosthetic limbs, whether from a loved one who passed away or you know somebody well groomed. You've donated some of your own for the did have it, how they do that now. Please go to standing with hope.com/recycle staining without.com/recycle. Thanks, Gracie