"Not a Grief Nor A Loss..."

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We start off with trivia question. Often times in the Scripture and and even sometimes a him and sometimes all three. And that's kind of where we are today on this with this will be a little bit hard for you guys.

Well, some of some of you may not be some of you may be just real scholars of the sort of thing, but once you tell me what him this stanza is from okay what him this stanza is from.

If you know the number 8885 8.80 840 it's not in every hymnal.

By the way, so this may be a little bit obscure for some but here it is not a burden we bear not a sorrow we share, but our toil he doth richly repay not a grief nor a loss, not a frown. Norcross but is blessed if we and that's the title of the song comes right after that.

Do you know what that is to know what that him is as you those you Regulus is so know that I'm a big fan of the hymns. I was a music major event in church music since I don't have it. I don't really have any recollection of not being involved in church music and have come to cherish and love the old hymns of our faith and I'm on a mission to help people remember these and hopefully integrate the back of their lives because these are these are born out of great challenges great difficulties great sorrows in many cases it also great theology for some of these once it stuck around some of the ones are out there today. A lot of stuff cannot has the weaker theology, but where were about on this show, making sure that we are quick to us caregivers with good sound doctrine theology so that when the storms do come that were not just boiled of a loan over were not just thrown aside that we can get you never know how valuable an anchor is until you're in strong cities you and and that's that's where we are his caregivers were in strong seas of devil we can have something that that anchors us what anchors you what anchors you should go to this that you look at our situation with the country going through all this turmoil, you know, our country seems rudderless.

We seem adrift and and what was anchoring us and for you know several hundred years. Our anchor was in God is a cut is a collective, the word of God was more authoritative than even the Constitution and I would suggest to you that we have unhooked ourselves from that and we are adrift and love that came about because of the founding fathers had a and an understanding of the depravity of man as they built this elaborate system of checks and balances were John Adams said many many years ago and I'm paraphrasing, but he said basically the Constitution does not do much if you have people that are immoral or irreligious that the just have no anchoring in anything other than just whatever they want to do and and that's a true statement were see that being played out every day.

So what anchors you as a caregiver. What is what is what would Ubaldo need to and and I would suggest you if it is not the word of God then it's it's whatever the you're holding onto them will not state that you disagree with me, tried out see if it works.

If you want to disagree with me. Let me know how that works for you, but I'm bringing 3 1/2 decades of this and every kind of failure.

You can name, and I found that Scripture holds fast every single time the authority of the word of God is no paramount in but it doesn't mean much to say it, if we actually don't know what it says it and that's where a lot of these great hymn writers were so this is this is what we do on the shows we try to speak in a way that caregivers understand that I speak fluent caregiver and I will make sure that you understand these principles. These doctors, the Scriptures of what does this mean and and a lot of this can be found in the great hymns of our church so anyway so if you know what this is not a burden we bear not a sorrow we share, but our toil he doth richly repay not a grief nor loss. Love you dealing with a lot of grief and loss, and there's not one grief not one loss, not a frail Norcross but is blessed if we would 888-589-8840 888-589-8840.

Let's go to Nancy and Mississippi that's good morning how you feel. It would lose this holistic they got Nancy how you feel amazing good. I would like to hire or my family and for frequently law relating… Late behind me strangely and are they putting a prosthesis on.

I know the law of no. Oh this is in this brave new brand brand-new and your infant. Hopefully behind the knee. The circulation looked on in the lower part of it, but it turned purple and I thought we had toenail removed before we get into the nitty-gritty of the dictation and I can understand this. My wife's ability to use last tell me right. What is your specific need for prayer today as I don't want that, because the brakes and so forth. Well you well and he returns to a nursing home today again that he will, they will obviously they work. Thank people, and that he will get better. We may not be a prophet of prosthetic and but that he will continue to get better and no at you this year that he has dementia. Did you city has dementia hang on just a second. We got it we are up against a break here life you do two things. Certainly we want to lift him up in prayer, but also talk about you and it's not an easy thing to watch a love one lose a limb twice and it is a painful thing and so you watching him that he has to go back to the facility, you're not able to engage with some talk about that little bit but can you hang on to the break. Just dispute arose where this is caregiver 888589] 288-858-8840 or tribute question that he is what him as this verse come from not burden we bear no sorrow we share with our toil he doth richly repay not a grief nor loss frail Norcross but is blessed if we and see if you know that what were going back to Nancy Mississippi Nancy good morning I wanted to continue our conversation. How are you doing this he still with us and she's not there. She's talking about. Her husband is going back to nursing.

We just lost his leg a vascular issue from an aneurysm and what's prayer for him and I would ask. We all do that and what we do with Nancy and her husband in this difficult time. It is not an easy thing to watch somebody lose limb and he's dealing with dementia. He's in a nursing home. We got the coronavirus revisitation is limited and I know that this weighs heavy on her and him both about destitute comfort and strength and father, and as it says in this him, not a grief nor loss frail Norcross juvenile blessed this if we follow you in this father we we just lift her up for that in Jesus name, amen. All right, let's just go back to the phone lines here Catherine Virginia Catherine need you there with us this morning on you know the song Catherine guessing that's that's the only desolate kicker you got a secret Catherine morning, though it's okay.

You don't that hole is a great hymn burden we bear will trust, and I don't see very well in the morning either use a great singer so that I don't have to say you got tickets away to go. Great job on that. Tell me about your mother-in-law. I got wonderful last time at 84. Now wonderful Christian secret up on a farm. I love talking to her. We enjoy serving her and we go there we take care of our okay but we've taken a Dr. Miller line we could help her out. Change a lightbulb think I got it says not a burden, it so right what's going on with just elderly. Okay he had gout, something that her family think they got that sometimes you can't lock can't drive anymore.

She's alone that we try to visit her often. We don't live with her yet, but we feel little stuck when Whatley we could maybe move into a house that we have many children we had six children through a balancing as few things we homeschool that whenever she needs anything we go and we shop for her. We take her to the doctors.

We keep her company leave and we research medical things for her weekly to include her healthcare somewhat describing learned you learned about yourself that this process, you raise six children and that's that's quite a feat on one of six children.

But what if you learned about yourself this is as you go through this mall that I thought how my uncle and I need to drop things like that and I thought that homeschooling few books in the car. Maybe listen to something educational, but I have to put myself second and after her mightily when I'm on the next.

I don't know what is what is it look like put yourself sick to change my plan to cut down child focus really household focus by my might have a shopping list.

I might have you known grocery run and I need to do, I might want to cook some family. I just turn off the stove, refrigerator, grabbed a few workbooks and we all go it's it's not as wonderful and drive which is as it requires a little flexibility putting myself second testing testing like he said God it's not about me and my planting all the sudden it's important to have a plan every day right is very important, very important. Six children with the appropriate essay that is not the city putting yourself second. But it is making yourself more flexible and I left I left the about at that time because it fit perfectly.

It really is about trusting in it and it really isn't about me and God requiring that much at heard people with with many more problems, and peer sound and you know they do and that's that's probably going to escalate as she continues to age and so forth.

That will be other issues that I think that a good plan because you like plans in this important when you're homeschooling mom of six children you know and also you got mother-in-law issue. It's it's you, plans are important and you don't want to jeopardize the well-being of one person at the expense uniform for someone else. You want to learn how to incorporate all of it in there as you do it to the best of what you could do but if you if you consciously put yourself in cilantro put myself second will put myself second. It tends to foster a mentality that your needs are expendable and are not, and what I would suggest this is just a vocabulary change that you would have to learn to be flexible. You know there's an old proverb is not a scripture but is this Blessed are the flexible for they shall not be bent out of shape and have because that that flexibility up and write that down to that flexibility is to be tested. She continues to have other issues encroaching upon her. Does your husband.

Is he involved with her as well on most everything. Bring the children to see happen. I wanted as my older son and we all help out with the yard that's actually kind of a deal but we do work very hard on the yard. These are all important things that I would. I would suggest you would you have your family get-togethers around the table with your six children and with your husband not with her, but with them say look, you know we love you.

Your grandmother and we weep with. She's her family were to honor her file description of the sink.

It is in and using different words because if you cusses they will all put myself second and third within eventually you get six children. You can put yourself seventh and and and they don't need you way at the back. They need you leading at the front with flexibility and learning to adapt and they learn from you how to do that so users vocabulary words. One of things I set up to do what I started the show many years ago was give caregivers a better vocabulary of what health looks like and what at and how to defy this and to give non-caregivers a better vocabulary of what this looks like, so that we're saying things with our mouth that are more reflective of what Rex do it. My wife is has a enormous amounts of needs at 80 surgeries. Both legs gone. I mean you know all this stuff you've heard story and she lives with severe pain all the time if I put myself second if I have that mentality, then it doesn't take too terribly long.

When you live in that cut a crucible start coming up with the martyrdom complex and as opposed to up not putting myself second. I am not putting her first.

I am simply recognizing her needs require a great amount of flexibility on my part and but I have to I have to exercise I have to eat I have to rest I have to sit down have to be still and those are hard things, it would have to be creative to do it to carve out that, time, and you with six children have to be creative you are your you know you can't. You can't run that type of tribe and and not be creative and not be organized but part of the organization is a sense of flexibility in the sense of you know what working to pull together this rivet adapter to learn to grow but were going to constantly evaluate you. Where were going to give Susanna Wesley was hurt and Charles Wesley will John and Susan John and Charles were part of the head. Think yeah at least 10 kids before they reach adulthood, but she might actually homeschool yeah she had a passel of I think I see in 19 but somebody correct me on that if I got it wrong, but she had a passel of them and she was extremely committed to educating organizing for these children and she put the needs of the family and the end actually brought her husband was away. She started up pretty significant Bible study and people got mad at her because she was a woman doing this in an yada yada yada. There's a lot of drama. But she told her husband what you get back your need started your job and as he was traveling to London or something.

Do that in its of these are these are but at no point did she come across a like you know she would diminish her self. She understood her role very clearly and she stepped up and that something you have a lot of similar traits but is flexible but Okay we got run to break this is Hope Rosenberg eight 885-8940 will be right back. Imagine appearing in caring for special-needs child. Daily phone call from a caring person break into the isolation and checking in on that stress, mom of the stress that what kind of difference do you think that would make. Imagine going to the grocery store in peace while knowing a Sentry was on duty for your loved one at home being able to look at them on your phone talking to them at any time from anywhere, even if the power goes out. Imagine being able to safely monitor your loved one in an assisted facility even during the quarantine.

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Skull cells of the caregiver. You can download it all the streaming services. If you want a physical copy the CD you can go out to your website. See how to do that 615-297-5388.

By the way, you can call to her friends, a religious bookstore Nashville that would lead ship you 1-615-297-5388 if you want to get one of those as well and I agree she sings about about almost half of the songs on there but it's very simple. And it says consults for the caregiver to put these hymns on there for a reason, because they sustain in the. The they will build us up as is.

Caregivers were dealing with these sorts of things. And today I had my trivia question was one of those hymns and I tried it when I do the trivia stuff. I try to do things are going to connect with where we are not just to attribute like you. What was the atomic weight of such and such element. It's all gotta be relevant to where we are sick caregiver in the first was from this stanza from this hymn was trust and obeys the him not a burden we bear not a sorrow we share a stop right there for just a moment, not a burden we bear not a sorrow we share. If you're caregiver for any length of time somebody who has any kind of significant impairment. You understand that that verse burden we bear sorrow we share, but our toil he doth richly repay you understand toiling is that where we use a lot, but it is a important word in this song, not a toil, he did but but our toil he doth richly pay not agree floor loss coming understand Greek. How do you understand loss. I would suggest to you that a great many of you, not a frown.

Norcross but is blessed if we trust and obey trust and obey, for there's no other way to be happy in Jesus, to trust and obey and and that may sound like a almost infantile in the way it approaches that weathers great truth this hymn, trust and obey, and as a country we need that right now more than ever, but it's the these it I don't you hear me do these hymns often end enclave.

I've got a keyboard hooked appeared through the board and I like to play them because it these these things get into our spirit. They get into her so they permeate into us and and we hang onto this when moments come that are incredibly difficult and painful and and whether it's a particular verse that you memorized him.

So whatever it comes to your mind anchor you in their mind that old hymn, I anchor Holt's you know the one my faith is found a restingplace not in device or treatment.

These are songs that mean something and and I am I was watching a documentary the other day on the Fanny Crosby one of the most prolific hymn writers of all time. Probably I think of all time. She wrote like over 10,000 hymns a lot of she had right under a pseudonym because she was running so many her publisher wanted to do multiple books they want everything just be Fanny Crosby, so he proceeded under bunch of different names and she's blonde she's blessed and infant of a friend came to her and said Fanny and then she did what she did. Actually, if you she grew up in a Christian home she member Scriptures a child, but she did not really have any kind of personal relationship with Christ until she was 30 and mostly him. She wrote she wrote after she was 40 and and a friend came to her and said Fanny I am I got tuned it to fill in the Lord is given we can you help me with this and she she she sung the tin for an Fanny sit there glad and wrote out the lyrics in five minutes to this one.

Can you get what you recommend within five minutes she wrote up the cheap cheap cheap did the lyrics for blessed assurance, Jesus is mine.

Oh what a foretaste people asked her something.

How can you write the sums but Jesus will let you be blind.

She said oh no you don't understand the next face I see will be his, you know these these these we have this tremendous legacy that is been passed to us by people of the faith. Hebrews says it would appropriate remember those who spoke the word of the Lord to you what appropriate imitate their faith and this this implies that we constantly revisit this legacy that is been passed on to us through hymns through the writings through teaching and most of all through Scripture to anchor us when these things hit and they will hit their hitting our nation right now. Collectively and in a friend of mine called me up the other day and he said I didn't think about you and Gracie a lot because you know where were all freaking out with all the stuff with the pandemic and politics and everything else. It is just really unsettling and then it dawned me that you, Gracie, lived in unsettled this like this for gates.

Have you done that. I answered truthfully. We got it poorly, but we constantly are having to remind ourselves to anchor ourselves in the word of God anchor ourselves in his truth. His sustaining truth.

His provision is faithfulness above everything else, not a burden we bear not a sorrow we share, but our toil he doth richly pay not agree floor loss, not a frown. Norcross but is blessed if we trust and obey Laban in Kansas Laban good morning how you feeling good morning Earl out here when I heard that thought it took me a while to figure it out cut it out. But anyway I grew up in a country church where were we saying in denominational hymn on Sunday morning but we had little brown in no way saying I'll out on Sunday night and yeah yeah and the line that I only think of in trust and obey. One of the verses says that in fellowship suite will infinity feet or we will walk by his side in the way and I'll always had asked myself in my walking by his side in the way or am I just in the way you say the wailing is your wife well she had a slight stroke and of course no stroke in the small stroke but relatively speaking. She had it messed with her vision and so she doesn't drive and and and and so otherwise she's, you know, very capable, but that other issues you know mobility and and and so forth a little bit you know I I am pretty much the housekeeper and so forth are you leaving not that nothing to brag about and work 40 hours a week and were fixing up the house fixer-upper and so I think if I have an issue. It is just being pulled in many directions. You now and and and so I I I so appreciate your program and and the it out helping helping to put it all in perspective and trust in the Lord to lead step-by-step… It a secret that I learned and I do the housekeeping in the cooking and everything else in not as fastidious as I should be getting there, but I was was asked one time to those being asked about technology and caregivers and what kind of technology do I incorporate as a caregiver to supply have two pieces of very valuable technology and one of is a Bluetooth for my phone now that I am contrite hands-free because I'm always working to me. I've done I'm done national interviews about cooking dinner and now and and I don't make any apologies for if you hear Potts Bailey to back that I don't know. I apologize for it because I think it hey I'm a caregiver deal with and with the other piece of technology uses a crockpot while I was right.

While I was waiting for you to catch up with my call. I got the laundry don't listen. I respect that the end I will I will get you know I'll be doing laundry and in ironing and I got I got a friend of mine that this constantly is is kneeling me.

She said you got a make a great wife. If you cannot but terribly sexist thing to say double what it and I'm always pushing for men to do more laundry and cooking and everything is because I think we have we have misaligned these roles, but I am I respect that Laban I really do because I've had people call Landon and men who try to care for their wives as they were caring for aging parents or whatever.

And the men wanted to know how to better care for their wives and they wanted it that you know how they could as a conversation ensued. I could tell that the men was wanting. How can I help my wife help me better and that's what I you know it, and they were they were they were wanting a little bit more attention and I will.

This is the family showed. I'll leave it at that and that I stopped them and what was pastor and he was rather indignant that you know how dare I insinuate that he needs to do something besides his pastoral duties and asked about what was going on.

The laundry room and in you will I I'm I'm working I can.

I'm like do you know get in there and do the laundry getting very clean the bathroom you know and so that that's what that some of the best seminary is the laundry room.

The Laban I want you to do some formality to hang on.

I will send you cloud by CD cells with a caregiver you like him. How well do it back to break someone ask you one more question the break I been losing people to all though nobody really 85 89 80 have you ever struggled to trust God when things happen to you. I'm Gracie Rosenberger, 1983 I experienced a horrific car accident leading 80 surgeries in both legs and became questioned why God allowed something so brutal to happen to me. But over time the questions changed and I discovered courage to trust God that understanding along with an appreciation for quality prosthetic limbs led me to establish standing with help more than a dozen years we been working with the government of Ghana and West Africa, equipping and training local workers to build and maintain quality prosthetic limbs for their own people on a regular basis. We purchased ship equipment and supplies and with the help of inmates in Tennessee prison. We also recycle parts from donated lambs. All this is to point others to Christ.

The source of my help and strength, please visit standing with help.com to learn more and participate in lifting others standing without.com I'm Gracie and I am staining with help Montana horses have been written while recovering from knee surgery. I think about to have me to get we guests know if there's a bigger runs the dispute Rosenberger welcome back to hope for the caregiver. This is the show for you as a family caregiver hosted by caregiver about caregivers and it is helping us as caregivers navigate to a place of safety. 888-589-8840 888-589-8840. I'm talking with Leavitt in Kansas. Laban I want to ask you one more question what to him that mean something to you that tugs at your ear every time it's played or or you sing it or whatever to him. That means the light. My number one go to him when when I start hearing a song that is just horrible on the radio or something. My eye, I start saying praise him praise him. Jesus, our blessed Redeemer and I hardly know more than one line, but all just saying that over and over just how the rest of that but I guess that's the plan that is that is Katie Crosby him yeah him him him him him him I love that home is. It is not on my CD but I want to get Jim's and get your information I will send you copy messages consult for the caregiver and I put some some hymns on there that just soothe my soul, Gracie, Gracie, things like that almost half of them against Mr. Miller stuff and she does an arrangement on this thing the two of us with orchestra. She starts off a cappella would be still my soul that goes in the bombing. That is just just break your heart. It is so beautiful and you love it. So if you hang on Laban but thank you for the privilege of playing that song for you. Now every time I find that you have a moment to think of you die will sing it very well like I can't sing very well. He best yeah you you challenge me again to learn more than the first line well.I these things these things do sustain a stealthy. They really do. And so thank you for just let me have that conversation with you about that because anytime eBay was to call about the hymns. If I if I have my glasses on I could see the him know I'll try to play it if I can't how to stop by here but memory so that I would love to play for my fellow caregivers. This is the way we call really Chirac and you have blessed me this morning. So hang on just to get your information and I will I will send you copy the CD and I really appreciate the call. Even okay thank you thank you for you, you gotta you got a kindred spirit here on the show and you call anytime you want okay thank you I will see Homer home in Oklahoma. How are you feeling is been a long time.

Good morning. I am feeling encouraged you're planning your message of warning truly resonate him.

That really touches my heart is Horatio Spafford is well with my whole him all that's it. That's a great one home with the band.

This morning I wake Sir Yuri really to have some key points.

Speaking of the mass in their home or something.

He points key yeah key points in the ICRC would you want that homework black and white.

I am so encouraged because having dinner caregivers for so many years. Oftentimes I become frustrated as you with those who perceive us is near linear males and I have been refined as I'm sure Horatio Spafford was as well through suffering and I know from your skill set, so keep preaching your message. Keep playing God?

For Homer thank you for the encouragement. And if I didn't have a bank full of phone calls. I would play the whole him for you but it is on songs for the caregiver you could download it today from all the streaming services and that that hymn is on their put up, put it is well with my salon. There's one of my favorites as well. Homer your blessing and think it's good to hear your voice again is been too long. I look forward to the next time I all right marker in ever greater you to Mary in Missouri Mary good morning how you feeling, I will marry your you your bit distorted is a little hard to hear you are you close to your phone. Are you on speaker. What I found no out is because the hills all right will do the best we can tell the real clue it were written at a time into me real quickly. What's on your heart and mind this morning talking about and every now will Marriott done that myself. I love that my place dump the band this morning here younger than the other test to be here because I don't have my glass. I can see this image of the love of God, how wonderful God is. How far-reaching I have found. I know what it could be 24 755 and one thing everyone caregiver while you remain. He shall forever more endure itself ever more door holding in the business of the saints and the saints and angels on the network love of God how rich in pure hell, measureless and strong. It shall forever more.

Endure the saints and angels solicit great that's a great song to have this morning is all I got to get up.

I got to get a better way to get a keyboard here, but piano is not inherent in the studio as I get a keyboard here, so have to get something a son hold the handle with yelp if yesterday would stump the band.

This is don't get really tough for me.

Best I can Mary have inspired me this morning.

I love that because you are elite.

When anybody gets up middle the night in place of the hymnal you. You have my attention and I love that will encourage will say that next to the word of God. Music elevates our soul more than anything else and I agree and and Bok was whose theology was so spectacular and he's considered the father of church music understood that 200 years after Luther and his his music. That's what so timeless. It is so beautifully constructed and all you much of Western music is based on that these hymns are based on that, so that I appreciate you bringing that to attention Mary. I've got one couple more calls you gotta take it I will try squeezing for the end of the hour, Mary. Thank you for listening and you call and I'll work it out play that he have a double to work on that next summer play that I'll be thinking of you with it because that is that that's a beautiful him so thank you Mary you to thank you, Linden, Tennessee good morning Linda only got just about a minute or two, but how you feel and I will that's good to hear wedding and on with you real quick. Well Matt heart attack and let after that amount and when there were seven doctors when he had his heart attack. I can get like an comfortable well for later after seven doctors that will and prayed about it and prayed about it and after the fourth. It was less than a month later when he had a mild stroke.

He went to the hospital and dealt with the same doctors and got locked once more and Linda only got only got about 30 seconds. Tell me what's the big issue for you today like I don't have near the frustration I had when it happened. My Internet went out and have been reading my Bible. Everything upright in the good Lord above for now back to wait for me. That's what I versus today, not a burden we bear no sorrow we share, but our toil he does richly repay not agrees nor lost nor frowned.

Norcross is blessed of the trust and obey. Linda sounds like that is the path that you're on midnight appreciate so much you call and we got you were out of time. This is Peter Rosenberg is hope caregiver hope caregiver.com will see you next May. This is John caregiver burden something that probably all know that Gracie, his wife lost her legs many many years ago and started a prosthetic limb outreach ministry called standing with hope and recently they ended up with a rather unique and unexpected partner, Peter had a conversation with Gracie and with Gracie when you envision doing a prosthetic limb outreach. Did you ever think that inmates would help you do that, not in a million years.

When you go to the facility run by core civic over in Nashville and you see the faces of these inmates that are working on prosthetic limbs that you have helped collect from all of the country that you put out the plea for and their disassembly sell these legs like what you have your own prosody and arms and arms everything when you see all this.

What do you make me cry because I see the smiles on their faces and I know I know what it is to be locked someplace where you can't get out without somebody else allowing you to get out course, being in the hospital so much and so long and so that these men are so glad that they get to be doing as as one man said something good family with my hands.

Did you know before you became an amputee that parts of prosthetic limbs could be recycled now had no idea and I thought a peg leg. I thought of wooden legs. I never thought of titanium and carbon lags and flanks the sea legs and all that. I never thought about that as you watch these inmates participate in something like this, knowing that there there helping other people. Now walk the providing the means for the supplies to get over there. What is due to you, just on the heart level.

I wish I could explain to the world. What I see in here and I wish that I could be able to go and say the this guy right here Denise go to Africa with that.

I never not feel that way out every time you know you always make me have to leave. I don't want to leave them. I feel like I'm at home with them and I feel like we have a common bond that would've never expected that only God could put together. Now that you've had experience with it what you think of the faith-based programs. The core civic offers. I think they're just absolutely awesome and I think every prison out there should have faith-based programs like this because the return rate at the man that are involved in this particular faith-based program and other ones like it, but I know about this one are. It is just an amazingly low rate compared to those who don't happen and I think that says so much that has anything to do with me just has something to do with God using somebody broken to help other broken people.

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