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“Balancing the sovereignty of God with the responsibility of man." Pastoring a Church Through COVID-19

Hope for the Caregiver / Peter Rosenberger
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August 4, 2020 1:09 pm

“Balancing the sovereignty of God with the responsibility of man." Pastoring a Church Through COVID-19

Hope for the Caregiver / Peter Rosenberger

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August 4, 2020 1:09 pm

I invited my long-time pastor and friend, Jim Bachmann, to call the show following a particularly meaningful sermon on Sunday. In addition to sharing what the church he served is doing (Stephens Valley Church in Nashville, TN) , he discussed the challenges for ministering to congregants ...many who feel so isolated during these times. 

 

Yet, referring back to the message he gave earlier that day, he effectively pointed us to God's sovereignty, provision, and faithfulness. (THE SUFFERING SAVIOR) see below

 

For more, visit www.StephensValleyChurch.com  

 

 

 

Peter Rosenberger is the host of HOPE FOR THE CAREGIVER.

The nation's #1 broadcast and podcast show for family caregivers, Peter draws upon his 34+ year journey as a caregiver for his wife, Gracie, through a medical nightmare that includes 80+ surgeries, multiple amputations, and treatment by 100+ physicians. 

Learn more at www.HopefortheCaregiver.com

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Why is everyone not wearing a mask and yet, matter the conscience and reduce it 6 feet apart with the building. Every Saturday before services on Sunday. We would take precautions we take temperature yours fairly standard you know my printer. I think you are you and your wife are we only had four members of our church income down the virus in Nashville are all about going to Montana so you should never talk about this course. This in spite of the fact that Nashville is a hotspot so that it surprised me how the bathroom proven to be a controversial topic surprised me how how resilient people. They not a pleasing thing the most rewarding thing and the expansion of the administrative virtually a man's a great sermon about how God builds his church. When everything seems to be stacked against us. What you now.

I still have to do that mom that is technologically challenged and in these 85. It is not level to change that. But mom is very technologically astute that she is legally blind and and so it's very difficult for them to to work that out but but they have Alexa and all the stuff we we hope to get that so she can do a lot of voice commands, and so they just think they say, you know, Alexa play Stevens Valley church in Nashville on YouTube and it pulls it out that streams live and and they watch it and I think will for them. They appreciate the fact that the service is very orderly and it feels to them like they're going to church is so really hats off to you guys because they're an older crowd but date that's what they want, they would be of experience that I would imagine that John your grandmother's probably the same way she doesn't want to say she likes the orderly thing Pentecostals. She's not, so he's not looking to tune into something that's a little bit more free for all.

I have no and and and that's fine for the folks to do but but that takes a lot of workforce and with theologically have you noticed that as people are wrestling with this new thing of of of what they can control what they can control what lets you all these consisting have you seen people, stretch theologically little bit.

I think rightly or wrongly qualified beside it, but I do think they were afraid people are really spooked more so than out, I'm not. I don't know why I'm 65 must be qualified me to be an Irish age group that I just have not worried about it.

I do wear a mask when I'm not preaching were masculine in the grocery store and so forth.

But they were all different and and I think people are being challenged and trust the Lord to realize that our time here in San about the sovereignty of God with the responsibility of man I'm responsible to take precautions in the belies and some people go to great extremes and people basically haven't been out since mid-March just become reclusive and yet I think those same people want to be there and I want to be engageable people got to know their son is the Lord's diet will not forsake the assembling of ourselves together, but there have another have to balance that with the just good common sense and not not throwing caution to the land so that's why I think to the way I look at is like in the competency right right right and I'm not planning on having a wreck, you know, but I'm not planning on being hurt worse by the Rick by not having seen Bill either in document may be listening to think is 89 years old now and me told me point blank. He'd rather Diane Churchill's apartment there every week with Mascot on the just enjoying himself. We have some people that are older than my father, some in their mid-90s that they are there every week so you people just read this thing differently looking to respond differently in a good time to go to church to love one another, respect one another regardless of what our convictions are about this particular matter is this is your sermon this morning and I went to the just to hear because I thought it was such a timely message of of selling cigarettes by no no I wasn't because I looked and saw John.

He does somersaults some summer salt for the sun all summer and some and this was some 22 a favorite of mine and it's it's a you know David is just pouring out his gutsy cc very very troubled discourage of any at the end of the pivots. I love how you started at the end and work backwards, but people are afraid people are discourage people are dismayed and they don't know where solid ground is in there trying to grapple with something that you as a nation there trying to grapple what we're trying to grapple as a nation was something we cannot control, and I think we built up this illusion of control in our lives is as Americans is as individuals here were very prosperous nation, and so forth. We had this illusion of control my audience here is caregivers wrestle with that on a regular basis that we are constantly dealing with stuff that we can't control in it it it brings out the worst in us and it has for me and I have often said there's nothing like caring for a woman with disabilities for couple decades to expose the gunk in your own soul, and it has for me and and sadly you've seen that God completed some you know but as it does a church have we gone through that period of real pricing and I think that's what your sermon seemed to reflect this one. Okay this is what is going to feel like this is part of it. But here's the good news and talk a little bit about that this morning I quoted you today. I know you quoted CS Lewis in the you could hear a quote reference to the engineered right name BELIEVE ME OUT… LET QUOTE TO PLAGIARIZE. YOU NOTICED THE VERY BEGINNING ABOUT ARE PLOTTED VERY BEGINNING OF SERVICE.

YOU MAY NOT OF BEEN WATCHING WHAT I DID. THE WELCOME NO, YOU HEAR A LOT OF TALK ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE LIVING IN UNCERTAIN TIMES, AND YOU MAY REMEMBER HOW YOU TOLD ME SOME WEEKS AGO THAT WHAT'S NEW ABOUT THAT. WE'VE BEEN LIVING IN UNCERTAIN We JUST PRESUME AND I'LL SLAM UPON THE FUTURE. RIGHT NOW WE JUST SENT ME A LITTLE BIT MORE AWARE THAT THERE IS THIS INVISIBLE VIRUS OUT THERE THAT MIGHT DECIDE TO INTERRUPT OUR LIVES ANY DAY SO BUT THE MATTER IS IT'S ALWAYS THAT WAY.

WE WILL BOAST NOT OF TOMORROW. THE BIBLE SAYS SO MAYBE POINT THAT ONE THING WE AS CHRISTIANS CAN COUNT ON IS TO GO TO THE BOOK OF HEBREWS WERE RECEIVING A KINGDOM THAT CANNOT BE SHAKEN, THEREFORE LET US WORSHIP GOD WITH THANKFULNESS WITH GRATITUDE AND WITH REVERENCE, AND ALL PEOPLE NEED TO REALLY PREACH THAT TO THEMSELVES THERE. THERE ARE SOME THINGS WE CAN COUNT ON AND THAT MANY TIMES THE BIBLE SAY FEAR NOT, FEAR NOT.

NOT IF YOU HAPPEN TO CATCH JOHN MACARTHUR'S STATEMENT THAT HE AND HIS ELDERS ISSUED TO HIS CONGREGATION ABOUT HEARING ABOUT IT AND I HAVE NOT HAD JUST GOTTEN LISTEN TO WHAT YOU NEED TO UPGRADE YOUR GUESTS AND GO FROM BARTMAN TO MY CAR AS IT CERTAINLY WOULD IMPROVE YOUR WRITING BOARD. DID HE EVER COME OUT WITH A GREAT STATEMENT ABOUT THE NORTHERN CALIFORNIA AND THEIR THREE SEVERE RESTRICTIONS ON LOOKED ON THE CHURCH AND HE JUST FINALLY GRACIOUSLY BIBLICALLY PUSHED BACK AND SAID THE CHRIST IS THE KING OF THE CHURCH. NOT CAESAR CAN. WE DON'T TAKE OUR ORDERS ABOUT WORSHIP FROM CAESAR AND I THINK THEY HAD NOT BEEN HAVING MANY PEOPLE TO WORSHIP LAST SUNDAY A HUGE CROWD SHOWED UP. JOHN MACARTHUR JUST WALKED OUT ON THE STAGE AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THIS HUGE CROWD ERUPTED IN A STANDING OVATION. IT WAS ALMOST LIKE PAPERWORK DESPERATE FOR SOMEBODY TO SAY SOMETHING WITH SOME CLARITY AND THAT HE DID I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU IN YOUR LISTENERS TO CHECK OUT A STATEMENT YOU DON'T CALL GRACE TO USE THE NAME OF THE WEBSITE, ENTER THE STATEMENT STILL THERE. AND LAST WEEK'S LOW WORSHIP SERVICES SERMON ALL ONLINE THAT WAS REALLY, REALLY VERIFY. HE PREACHES A LOT LONGER THAN THE FIRM ABOUT AN HOUR, BUT THIS WAS WORTH LISTENING TO.

I WILL TAKE THAT OUT. I HAVE BEEN WATCHING THE LANDSCAPE OF PASTORS AND CHURCHES AND SO FORTH. IN HOW TO FUNCTION IN THIS WORLD AND I WAS TALKING TO A FRIEND OF MINE LESSON IS MEMBER OF CHURCH DOWN IN THEM NATIONALS WELL AND AND IT IT'S ALL OVER THE MAP. IT'S IT'S WE GOT SOME THAT ARE JUST SAYING YOU KNOW KNOW AND AND SOME THAT ARE SAY THAT'S IT. IT'S THE IT'S THE SIGN OF WEAKER FAITH IF WE WEAR A MASK, SOME THAT ARE SAY I'M NOT AWARE OF MASK OR I'M GOING TO WEAR A MASK BECAUSE I WANT TO BEAT THIS THIS LIKE YOU SAID THE TWO CAMPS.

EVERYBODY DOING AND AND AND I'M HOPING NM AND I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS AS WE SPEAK. THIS WE COULD FIND SOME KIND OF COMMONALITY OF OKAY.

HOW CAN WE PULL TOGETHER THIS WE DON'T NEED TO BEAT EACH OTHER UP AND BE SO DEFIANT ABOUT ONE SIDE OF THE OTHER HECKLING SOME COMMON SENSE AND I THINK FOR ME IS WHAT I SAW TODAY YOU KNOW A STEPHEN SELLING YOUR CHURCH TOUCHES ALL OF THE ENORMOUS AMOUNT OF COMMON SENSE, BUT A RESOLUTENESS TO CONTINUE ON. THAT'S THE MODEL RIGHT THERE. YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE TO BECOME BELLIGERENT, WE CAN BUT BUT WE CAN USE COMMON SENSE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE TO COWER EITHER IN I THOUGHT YOU THAT THAT'S A GOOD BALANCE IN MY READING, SO I WILL HOPEFULLY SURROUND ABOUT THEM AND NOT EVERY CHURCH CAN DO LASTING. OBVIOUSLY, WE COULDN'T WAIT WE REALLY WEREN'T READY TO DO IT IN MARCH.

I THINK WE STARTED LAST RHEMA MONTH OR TWO LATER. BUT WAIT, WE RECORDED OUR SERVICES AND POST THEM ONLINE AND I WAS JUST BLOWN AWAY THE FIRST WEEK THERE WERE 700 AND SOMETHING VIEWS ON THE COURSE AS YOU KNOW, IF YOU CAN BE A FAMILY FOR SITTING AROUND MANY MEMBERS OF THE CHURCH ON THEM IMMEDIATELY THAT WAS VIRTUAL THING THIS INTERNET THING IN THE WAY THAT TO GET THE WORD OUT AND ONE DAY WE HAD AN OLD FRIEND WHO WAS A DOCTOR AND AUSTRALIA EXTENDED VANDERBILT HERE AND WHO WAS A MEMBER OF OUR CHURCH BACK IN THE MID-90S AND ALL OF A SUDDEN I SAW THIS NAME IS SIGNED IN ON THE VIRTUAL ATTENDANCE SOMETHING AND HE'S WASHING IS EVERY WEEK, AND AUSTRALIA, AND ANOTHER MAN IN SPAIN IN HIS LIFE OR WE ARE WATCHING NOT TO MENTION THROUGHOUT NATIONAL I'M SURE THE CHURCH IS FOUND THE SAME THING. IT'S A GREAT WAY TO EXPAND THE MINISTRY, BUT IT'S ALSO GREAT WORK OF THE DEVIL TO DIVIDE PEOPLE AND THE NOVEMBER LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF. COMES IN THE PLAY THAT SHIRTED IS NOW BECAUSE WE DON'T NEED THE CHURCH PEOPLE BICKERING AT EACH OTHER, CONDEMNING EACH OTHER, POINT FINGERS AT EACH OTHER AT THE TIME TO SHOW LOVE AND RESPECT FOR EACH OTHER AND RECOGNIZE US TO BE HONEST DIFFERENCE OF OPINION WE WAIT WE'VE OPENED OUR CHURCH INTERESTED 6 FEET APART.

WE STRONGLY ENCOURAGE YOU MAX, ETC. BECAUSE WE GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT WANT TO COME AND SO, OKAY, HERE WE ARE WELL A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT ARE FEARFUL AND SO DON'T FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT. WE UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE A VIRTUAL OPTION FOR YOU TO TAKE YOUR PICK.

BUT DON'T CONDEMN EITHER GROUP AND SO HOPEFULLY WE HAVE FOUND A BALANCE.

I THINK THE SOMEBODY ASKED ME TO DESCRIBE WHAT'S GOING ON.

THE CHURCH I'M SURE IT'S NOT JUST ASK IN ONE WORD, I'D SAY IT'S A WORD, FRUSTRATION BECAUSE IT'S JUST NOT NORMAL. THE WAY WE WANTED TO BE WHAT WE MISS A GOOD DAY. IT WAS ONLY GOOD WHEN WE COULD DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.

THE WAY WE WANTED TO DO IT AS OFTEN AS WE WANTED TO HAVE TO THINK ABOUT GLOVES OF MASKING SANITIZING AND THERMOMETERS AND ELDERLY PEOPLE, AT LEAST IN OUR CONGREGATION ARE FEELING VERY ISOLATED. I SAID IF YOU HAVE A SURGERY IF YOUR WIFE HAS SURGERY YOU DROP HER OFF AT THE HOSPITAL YOU NOT ABLE TO GO IN WITH MY MOM WHEN SHE FELL AND BROKE HER HIP TWO MONTHS AGO WHEN THE PARAMEDICS TOLD MY DAD AT THE DOOR SAY GOODBYE HERE THAT'S RIGHT FOR HER HUSBAND OF 60 YEARS PLUS A PASTOR THAT THAT IS THAT IS MINDNUMBING, YOU KNOW TO TO COME TO GRIPS WITH, OF NOT BEING ABLE TO BE NOT THE ONLY TIME I STOPPED WAS AT THE DOOR OF THE SURGERY ROOM WHEN I WAS WITH GRACE IN THEIR TIMES.

I ACTUALLY SCRUBBED AND WHEN IT IN AND IN NO AND SO TO THINK ABOUT THAT. IT IS JUST HEARTBREAKING AND A AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PASTORS AS WELL AS PARISHIONERS WHO ARE STRUGGLING WITH. YOU KNOW THIS THIS ALONENESS OF IT AND I THOUGHT THAT THAT WHEN YOU TOUCHED ON THAT THIS MORNING WHEN YOU SAID YOU KNOW HE'S NEVER GOING TO BED WHENEVER THEY FEEL LIKE, BUT IS NOT AND WE CRY OUT AND I AND AND JOHN IS A BIG FAN OF CS LEWIS AS WELL AND IN AND I WENT TO THE CLOSER IT UP WITH WHAT YOU SAID ABOUT YOU KNOW FROM THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA WHEN THE SLED WITH ASHLEY JUST DISCOVERED PAINT THAT PICTURE AGAIN BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS SO IMPORTANT FOR LISTENERS KNOW IN IN IN A MEETING I GOT HERE THIS IN THE LAST JUST TO THREE MINUTES. WE GOT OF THE QUESTION THAT LUCY ASKED AND I THINK IT WAS LUCY THAT ASKED OF AZLAN ABOUT EDMUND AND THEN WHAT HIS RESPONSE YES AND WHAT THAT MEANS TO CONTACT EDMUND AND I HANDED IT IN A TARGET LIVE WHICH HAD HIM IN THE PALM OF HER HAND THE WHOLE TIME BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, BUT DECAPITATING THAT TARGET LIVE TELLING HER ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT SHE WANTED TO KNOW HE WAS BASICALLY SOLD HIS SOUL TO THE WICKED WITCH AND THE OTHER THREE CHILDREN WERE STILL LOYAL TO HAVE REALIZED THAT MINUTE BECOME A TRAITOR AND LEFT THE BENCH THE LAST GREAT LIE.

CHRIST FIGURE. CAN ANYTHING BE DONE TO SAVE OUR BROTHER AND AN ALUMNI FEEL CLOSER TO CORRECT THE GRIND. OF COURSE AZLAN SAID, ALL SHALL BE DONE, BUT IT MAY BE HARDER THAN YOU THINK, AND PSALM 22. PICTURE OF HOW HARD IT WAS WHAT ALL THE SUFFERING THAT JESUS WENT.

IN DOING SO I GUESS WE SHOULDN'T FEEL SORRY FOR SSL. SHOULD WE WOULD LIKE NURSING SOCIAL ISOLATION ON THE FRUSTRATION OF COBIT NINE CAME LIKE OUR SAVIOR DID NOT DRIVE HOW HARD IT WAS TO SHOW THE FULL EXTENT OF LOVE AND THE PREGNANT CAT MIGHT PASS FROM FATHER SAID NO NO I AND JESUS FOR THE JOY SET BEFORE HIM REDEEMING UNWORTHY SINNERS LIKE YOU AND ME AND ENDURED THE CROSS, THE SHAMAN AND ALL THAT RIGHTEOUSNESS TO PURCHASE EVERLASTING SALVATION FOR US. THIS IS THE RESOLUTE ANCHOR THAT WE HAVE IN OUR LIVES AND OUR HEARTS THAT QUELL THOSE THINGS. WHEN WE ARE FACED WITH THESE VERY TROUBLING TIMES AND IN MY AUDIENCE. WHEN A STRANGER TO THE UNCERTAINTIES WILL FIX YOU KNOW IN THESE UNCERTAIN TIMES.

THIS WE NEVER HAD CERTAIN I NEVER HAD CERTAINTY IN MY ENTIRE MARRIED LIFE OF 34 YEARS NOW OF DEALING WITH THESE HEALTHCARE ISSUES AND SO I'VE LEARNED TO BE ABLE TO BE CALM IN THE MIDST OF THIS I DON'T OWN IT. I'M GETTING BETTER AT IT THAT I USED TO BE WAS A TAKING PROGRESS BUT IT'S A IT'S SLOW PROGRESS MY WIFE A DAY, BUT JUST WANTED TO BE COMMON, BUT I WOULD ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU LISTENING IF YOUR CHURCH IS STRUGGLING WITH, WHERE TO LAND ON THIS. GO CHECK OUT STEPHEN'S VALLEY CHURCH.COM. JUST TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND HOW THEY DONE IT AND A LOT OF CHURCHES ARE DOING THIS PULL TOGETHER. TRY TO FIND THAT PLACE WHERE YOU KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO BE BELLIGERENT ABOUT THINGS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE DON'T NEED TO BE COWERING ABOUT THINGS WERE GOING TO. IT'S A NEW NORMAL AND AND IT'S BUT IT'S NOT. IT'S DIFFERENT THAN THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE BAD AND AND AND THAT'S THAT'S A THAT'S A WORTHY ASPIRATION FOR ALL OF US GOOD WORDS FROM PASTOR JIM BACHMANN, STEPHEN'S VALLEY CHURCH.COM JIM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY. THANK YOU ALL THE GREAT ONE CALLED ROSENBERG WITH YOUR LACK OF JUDGMENT. THIS IS HOPE. HOPE YOU DO LOVE YOU TO HOPE FOR THE CAREGIVER.COM TO GIVE HER SOMETHING BETTER TO SEE YOU NEXT WEEK. JOHN RANDAZZO YOU KNOW, DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S A PANDEMIC GOING ON, YOU KNOW, I READ A COUPLE AUTHORITIES HERE AND THERE, HE SAW SOMETHING ON TWITTER YEAH YEAH YOU KNOW I WHEN I WINDOW I WENT TO WALMART AND THEY SAID I'D WEAR A BASEMENT FROM A COOL BUT WIFE APPEARS ARE NOT REQUIRED BUT FACE MASK. EVIDENTLY, I ALMOST NEVER TELL ME A BIT UGLY RUDDY DANGER TO ASSIST TOBY EDWARD TO FACE MASK.

THE REASON I'M REFERENCING THAT IS BECAUSE YOU KNOW OF OUR WORK FOR MANY YEARS WITH PROSTHETIC LIMBS, AND WE CAN'T GO TO GHANA RIGHT NOW AND I'LL TAKE GRACIE OVER THERE. WE BEEN GOING TO TO TO GHANA FOR MANY MANY YEARS TO HELP WORK WITH A PIECE OF THEIR BUT WE BEEN SITTING SUPPLIES AND WERE SPONSORING MORE PATIENTS BUT WERE NOT SITTING PINGS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE JUST CAN'T.

AND WE GOT PATIENTS THAT ARE LINING UP THAT ARE REALLY NEEDING SOME QUALITY PROSTHETIC ERA WERE CONTRACTING OUT WITH PROSTHETIC PROVIDERS THERE IN WEST AFRICA IN DIAMOND AND THERE HELPING THESE PATIENTS THAT WE REALLY ARE URGENTLY TRYING TO TREAT GET THEM UP WALKING ONE OF US. AND IF YOU DO ONE OF THE CRUTCHES WE HAVE FOR THEIR PATIENTS. JOHN IS WEAK, WE TARGET CHILDREN AND WORKING AGE ADULTS, CHILDREN, STUDENTS, WORKING AGE ADULTS AND REALLY THAT ORDER GOT SHOT BECAUSE WE WANT TO GIVE THEM A FIGHTING CHANCE TO HAVE A PRODUCTIVE LIFE WITH THE QUALITY PROSTHETIC LIMB.

THIS IS WHAT GRACIE ENVISIONED AFTER LOSING HER OWN LEGS IS NOT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO HELP AGING OR SO FORTH IS JUST THAT THAT'S THAT'S WORK PART-TIME IN LATELY.

I LOVE THESE YEAH IN AND OUT.

WE'VE HAD A LOT OF KIDS. WE'VE HAD SOME SOME STUDENTS THAT ARE GETTING CLOSE TO THE GRADUATION WITH THINK THEY'RE CONSTANTLY NEEDING PROSTATIC ADJUSTMENTS OR A NEW LEG NEW SOCKET. NEW LETTERS AND SLEEVE. IT WILL TRY TO SHIP THINGS OVER WERE TRYING TO SPONSOR THINGS AND CONTRACT WITH THE WORKERS THERE DO IT. WE COULD USE THE HELP. SO I AM ASKING STAINING WITH HOPE.COM WHAT YOU JUST TAKE A MOMENT TO GO OUT TO STANDING WITH HOPE.COM LOOK AT THE WORK WE DO AND LOOK WHAT WE ARE SEEING AND AND GET INVOLVED IN ANY YOU COULD CERTAINLY WRITE US AND ASK US ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT IT. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOUR HELP TODAY. WE REALLY NEEDED TODAY FOR ANY DONATION AMOUNT WHATEVER'S ON YOUR HEART DOESN'T MEANT WITNESSING A COPY GRACIE CD AND AND WHEN WE JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT THIS IS THIS IS WHAT WERE SERIOUS ABOUT DOING WE BEEN DOING THIS FOR A LONG TIME. WE CAN GO OVER THERE IN PERSON. BUT GUESS WHAT, WE COULD STILL HELP THEM GET UP AND WALK AND YOU COULD BE A PART OF THAT TODAY.

IT'S A GIFT THAT KEEPS ON WALKING. I CAME UP WITH THAT MYSELF TO FLOOD WALKING AND GRACE, WITH GRACIE BEING A DOUBLE AMPUTEE HERSELF. WHEN WE UNDERSTAND THAT IN AND IN WHAT EFFECT WOULD DEAL WITH PROSTHETIC STUFF RIGHT NOW WITH HER AND BECAUSE SHE'S CONSTANTLY NEEDING ESTIMATES AND SO FORTH AND SO WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED AND WERE ASKING YOU TO HELP WITH TODAY'S AGO TO STANDING WITH HOPE.COM TODAY. EXCELLENT