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March 12, 2021 1:00 am
What does a Christian marriage look like? To know that, you must start with God's definition of love. Kevin DeYoung talks about the "Three M's of Love" according to the Bible.
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The Bible teaches that God welcomes sinners into the kingdom he will welcome you and all who call out to him and call on his name. Pastor and author Kevin DeYoung says that has implications for how we live as a family. Here's the question for your marriage if you believe with all your heart that you are justified by faith alone. Why are you insisting that your spouse be justified by works, because many of us are under the greatest thing God but that that not going to work with her. Not for him.
He's got he's got a prove that he's gotta crawl.
He's gotta suffer a little bit. This is family life today. Our hosts are David and Wilson on Bob Lapine by the sunlight of family life today.com. What should grace look like in a marriage relationship. How are we to be dispensers of grace to one another, pastor and author Kevin DeYoung talks about that today and welcome to family life today. Thanks for joining us have to tell you we been talking all this week about the love like you made a marriage. I woke up this morning and just for a minute I thought I was on board. I mean I just had that moment where it was like signing here in Michigan think that you can dream. Yeah. And right 2022 we are in doing. We are going to be back with our love like you made a marriage cruise next February. We cannot wait and apparently some of you can't wait either because a lot of you have been calling us this week and saying okay were in will put our deposit down.
We want to go on the cruise with you Valentines week of 22 and this can be an amazing cruise, and I hope a lot of our listeners that I think a lot of us have had cabin fever so here's our chance to. I mean, I know it's a ways away but it'll just be special again to be back on board the cruise, pull your bathing suit out of those drawers we always have a great lineup of some great speakers in this week we've been listening to some of those great speakers from the last decade on board the cruise. I remember the year Kevin DeYoung joined us on the love like me to cruise back. I was telling you guys a story I heard a sermon that Kevin was preaching this was for five years after he'd been on the cruise and he was tall as congregation.
My wife and I were invited to be on this marriage cruise and one day were out on our balcony and we hear this couple nearby and their arguing with each other without all this sounds bad and we prayed for them and were worried and thought.
I hope they're okay. He said later that night were in the in the ballroom and we hear the same argument happening. It's because it was Jim and Carol Shores acts of renewal who do this. This gets for us. They been rehearsing on the balcony and how there they were up on the stage and here's a got all they were just playing. So they met up later and get a chance to say we prayed for you guys. Kevin is a pastor in North Carolina in the Charlotte area is an author.
He's been on family life today. A number of times in the year he was on the love like you mean it marriage cruise. He went to first John four which is a passage that's all about the fact that God is love and he said what can we learn about marriage by meditating on the idea that God is love.
Here's Kevin, the I want to give you.
Hopefully, what are biblical foundations for biblical marriage because were interested not just in having some good relational techniques. Some good communication pointers but we want to know what does the Bible have to say about marriage. The Bible actually only says a little bit about marriage. This is a lot about God and a lot about what it means to be saved and to serve God. So we want to look at what the Bible says because whether you are here and you know that your strong Christian or not so sure if there's probably people here who know that they're not Christians were glad that you're here, there will be people here by the end you thought you were Christians. You get to the end of the week he realized I'm not sure I really was a Christian and that's good. But we want more than just what the world can give the world can give people helpful pointers on how to relate together the world can do cruises now hopefully this one is unique but the world can can give you fun to give you entertainment give you last. What is it that the Bible tells us that makes Christian marriage actually Christian. What is it in Christian marriage that shows forth the love that God has for us. That's we want to talk about and I ask you to turn in your Bibles. Or if you're really cool you can swipe them on and we will be looking at first Timothy Arata first John first John chapter 4, first John chapter 4 verses 10 through 12 and I do hope you will have your Bibles open for the different sessions because you know Dennis and Bob do a great job of setting the speakers and the people I want to have come in but you realize the only authority to any of us have, to speak about these things is not from our own experience, it's not from our own dents of personality. It's from this book and so you want to test everything against this book.
First John chapter 4 in verse 10 in this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his son to be the propitiation for our sin. Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another.
No one is ever seen God. If we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us. It will come as no surprise that I want to talk to you about love your marriage cruise. It is a love like you mean, it's what sounds to me. Sort of like love like you mean it sort of cruise we want talk about love and everyone you meet everywhere is in favor of love. What is it though. What is love actually look like because it's so easy to imbibe our culture's understanding of love. There are many people who think of love as a feeling that comes over you the code that famous theologian when the moon hits your eye like a big pizza pie that's Amore. When the world seems to shine like you had too much wine that's Amore bells will ring tingling allaying tingling allaying beautiful poetry their annual seeing the hearts will play to be tippy today to be tippy today when the stars make you jewellike' is all that's Amore. When you dance down the street with a cloud on your feet you're in love when you walk in a dream and you know you're not dreaming. So you're excusing me. But you see back in old Natalie lots of already okay that you you're always sometimes we have that idea. Love is just I'm I'm skipping this clouds under my feet. I just see stars and the moon are coming out office to remember when you felt like that for week I was a really good week and you got engaged. That week and is some older couple came along and said enjoy it while it lasts. Sometimes we think of marriage that way.
It's just system some bubbly feeling that comes over us and it's wonderful when you have it with and what happens when when it's when it's gone I think is my first year in pastoral ministry old woman young woman walked in to my study and she said pastor I am ready to leave my husband. Why will I just he wasn't the one I married the wrong person were not in love anymore what you mean you're not in love. We separate in love.
What would happen. I stepped in something that was a house love.
I'm in law. I just I just for now I just trip.
I just happen to be in this thing called love. Well that's what it is that you can fall out of it wasn't something more, something more closer think love is unconditional acceptance. If you love me you will embrace whatever I am whoever I am whatever my self identity claims to be.
And if you tell me that there is some other higher authority or some other moral plane that is above my own autonomy, then you don't really love me. This is our culture's understanding of love, affirmation, so you tell me that what I'm doing is something other than what I want to do you know really left me anyone here whose apparent understand that's not love, you would not be loving to your children if you just sit you know what this year you call the shots I be easier for a time that they be out playing in an illustrated everything in bathtubs to talk with toasters and dumb stuff you say that to your kids, somehow we have this idea that if you really love and you get into a miracle if he really loved me that he would just let me do whatever I want to do if you love me. Why can I go hunting for 15 weeks out of the year and go fishing. Why don't you love me too. I am God made no so we have self-esteem issues my kids my kids apparently don't have self-esteem issues. I was you may remember that tomorrow is Valentine's Day, throw Valentine's Day and all the houses are saying cruise already. Okay, but it is Valentine's Day and I like my my my second-grader said before we leave before he left his I hate Valentine's Day I suppose Valentine's Day does exactly what he said straight face. He said because it's like six girls in school have a crush on me to sit son, I'm sorry to give you that burden. I mean, I know we understand love is not just self affirmation and acceptance and they get people to think love is just some magic pills. You just love just solves everything. Listen if you think your marriage problems are going to be solved by a bumper sticker not in touch with the real issues are in your marriage for those other theologians love love love love love love love love love there's nothing you can do that can't be done. Nothing you can sing the can't be sung.
Nothing you can say what you can learn how to play the game. It's easy, there's nothing you can make the can't be made. No one you can save the can't be saved.
Nothing you can do what you can learn how to be you in time.
It's easy. All you need is love.
All you need is love.
All you need is love. Love. Love is all you need is that mixed it up right there. Love love love love love love love love love level you need is love people get these sort of hallmark moments just but what is it that sounds good for a moment, and some after school special and then what does it do for you.
We need the Bible to tell us what is the Bible say each of these cultural definitions have an element of truth, but they're far from the whole truth when you get up half-truth masquerading as a whole truth that usually ends up being alive. So what does the Bible say I have three points because I've been to seminary.
They all start with the letter M method. The motivation and the manifestation of love because if God is love. Everyone likes that idea even non-Christians all yes if there is a God, he is supremely love.
If God is love, then it stands to reason that he ought to define what love is and what it looks like we see here the method the motivation in the manifestation verse 10. First, the method in this is love. John writes not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his son to be the propitiation will come back to the warden moment for our sin. So you see the method God's love came about from his will. It was his choice in eternity past to set his affections upon us to choose us in Christ before the foundations of the world.
It was his decision for his glory, to love us so contrary to popular opinion, God does not love us because we were some diamond in the rough that then the cross shows how special we are. The cross shows how far we were from God in our sin. What does Paul say in Romans. But that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. God did not look to say there's some special people. I got a lot of potential in that window while she's got a lot going for her.
I think I'll Dotson my son for her and him it was his choice. What does this mean for marriage. Now it's not identical, because hopefully there are some things that drew you to one another and he's so intelligent and handsome and she so kind and loving you were attracted to one another and yet there are many, many times in marriage where to love one another is an act of the will love is not what holds the marriage together. It is the commitment of marriage that sustains the love you made promises to each other. I love to do weddings and always remind the couple. The groom is standing there and he's looking sort of dopey. That's what grooms look like, but that's okay I tell no one's looking at you there looking at her and and they come in and that they they make their vows and their promises, and it is sad as a pastor I could tell you stories just right now, and in our church in reminding couples listen you made promises before God and these witnesses and use forsaking all others, and you said until death parts us, you sent these things you promise these things, you called upon God himself to witness these files and we treat them so lightly love is an act of the will. When you get married you you you turn off hopefully that part of your brain that would walk into a room when you are single and sort of think baby who are you like to get you turn that off now forsaking all others, it is you and her. It is you and him and you make that choice so that you don't wake up and say today, I will feel tingly towards you know if you do that you're probably sick with something you say today I will continue to woo my wife men member member the things we used to do. We wrote poetry that had no business ever being written. Those letters are where there on the Internet where but you you you surprised your wife you thought of her, and you wooed her and seems so long ago you made those decisions instead of saying today.
I will feel sexually attracted to my husband may not happen. You say today I will do what I can in my home so that it will be a welcoming place for my husband assessing today. I will float on clouds of the limitless passion.
As I consider the boundless perfections of my spouse.
Good luck. You say today, I will forgive today I will cherish.
Even as I recognize the imperfections of my spouse, so there is an act of the will. If you expect that marriage is going to flourish just by the magnetic attraction of your two personalities. That's probably come and gone. You gotta make some hard decisions. You also see the method here is sacrifice. Sacrifice it says that Jesus death was a propitiation know what does that word me think of it just the first part of the word Pro when Christ died for our sin. It made God, who had every right to be angry toward us as his sinful creatures, and God together with the sun and the Holy Spirit now. Through this act of redemption are propitious toward us. That means God, who was against us and had every right to be is now for us so Pro us. You need good words like that. Listen, you need theology to have a strong marriage. You need theological balanced in your boat propitiation, so God God had every right to condemn us not to know what sort of tradition you come from, was her church are part of it in our church most Sundays I at the end I gave the benediction the Lord bless you and keep you. The Lord make his face shine upon you and be gracious unto the Lord, looked up his countenance upon you and give you if this piece if you're Baptist. It sounds like you're dismissed. But if you're presbyterian that's what we said no. I love it is right from the Bible is from Numbers chapter 6 and I love what RC Sproul said many years ago you said you want to know what it is to be under the curse of God take that blessing and flip it. May the Lord curse you, may the Lord turn his face away from you. May he hide his countenance from you. May he turn his smile away and may you see nothing but his frowning countenance. God had every right to be angry with us in our sins, and if the gospel has become old boring news to us. Perhaps it's because we don't know how much we have been saved from we forgotten what it is you will not be gracious into your marriage until you know how gracious God has been to you sacrifice he sent his son as an atoning sacrifice that he who had every right to be against us would be now Pro us. When's the last time you've sacrificed something. I remember hearing. I don't know who it was some wife say years ago. You know I don't want to know.
I just want to husband will die for me. I want husband's gonna wake up every morning and try to live for me as a husband, so I'll take a bullet for you okay what would you take the child.
For me that's a more likely scenario, those child children can drop you know what I mean but I think I think of life and she's she's put in our seven month old who was on the cruise with us to bed and I think of all that she has sacrifice for me just day after day and how little I have sacrifice.
I think mom my sacrifices. I watched every Jane Austen movie ever made government we have back in our room on my iPad like 60 hours of costume dramas.
They British accents and gowns. My wife wants to see it, but that that's it what what have you done for your husband for your wife some measure of sacrifice your time, your energy marriage is hard for a simple reason we are selfish people. Some of your our baby yeller's when you get into a fight. My wife and I are silencers get cold and José on his anything wrong. No, no, has a couple syllables and means yes and I'll say are you mad at me, which is my way of saying I have no idea why you're mad at me and she'll pause and say no, which means come back later and will get to the bottom of it, but we have these moments of IEC's attention and what I find is if I'm willing husband's. Let's lead the way in this if you want to be. As the Bible calls you to be the leader in your home. The head of your home that you take the lead in seeking reconciliation in your home.
And if you take a little step five. Just say honey, I know that din come out right now. What I maybe think in my head is okay.
It still 90 fibers in your fault but I took a little step in.
My wife is so gracious because if I do that she'll inevitably say you're right that was, not right but I didn't have a very good attitude when you came home and is just a little bit some of you may experience a great miracle of God's grace in your marriage is completely change this weekend, but that's usually how God works.
He works little by little, and if you're here in your marriage is a frozen block of ice and you can leave this week with some melting. That's a good step. Just some thawing some hope. The hope you have is not in any of us or any of our stories.
The hope is in Christ and that's when marriages are at their worst. If you give me any kind.
A couple any couple, and whatever their problem if they say we want to work on this. We have hope you can do anything.
When you lose hope it is nothing, never seen it this bad.
This will never get better. You have to believe no one loves your marriage and wants to see your marriage flourish more than God does is her second point. What is our motivation. The method is sacrifice. A method is choice, an act of the will of our motivation.
Verse 11 says, beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. Know this is talking about love in the body of Christ. But if that's the case with brothers and sisters how much more in this covenant of marriage. If God love us, we also ought to love one another. Some of us have the note I'll scratch your back so you scratch my back out try to work on this marriage thing so that you'll come and you'll be a better spouse for me. Many Christians have what amounts to Pharisee love Jesus, remember said you love people. So the love you back. You do nice things for people do nice things to you.
The Pharisees get that described that it does not take a work of the Holy Spirit in your heart to get that everybody likes that everybody likes people to be nice to them. Maybe if I'm nice they'll be nice maybe if I treat my spouse right then she'll treat me right. Okay. Well, we'd like to see that hypo gives us something much better, much deeper instead of our human instinct which says I will love in order to be loved. The Bible says love because you have already been loved as the difference between anyone else trying to help your marriage in the Bible trying to help your marriage. Love because you have already been love that God in Christ has forgiven you for giving you real sins that God in Christ will justify you by faith alone. We need theology for good marriages. This is the 500th anniversary of Martin Luther, nailing the 95 theses on the church door at Wittenberg and all around the world.
People will be celebrating the 500th anniversary of the Reformation, and rightly so.
In the central doctrine rediscovered in the Reformation is the doctrine of justification by faith alone that in Christ we have our sins not only forgive in but positively we are declared righteous, that he who knew no sins, for our sake became sin so that in him we might become the righteousness of God.
Justification by faith alone. It was the word alone. That was scandalous. Everyone in the 16th century understood all the Christians knew you were justified by faith.
Of course, you have to have faith but was faith plus something. It was faith and then enough works to to show that you're really a Christian I was, faith plus the grace working within euros, faith plus your own efforts with the rediscovered was this great gospel truth of justification by faith alone alone. So here's the question for your marriage if you believe with all your heart that you are justified by faith alone.
Why are you insisting that your spouse be justified by works, because many of us are. I'm go to the great things God but that that not going to work with her. Not for him. He's got he's got a prove that he's gotta crawl.
He's gotta suffer a little bit you say, but she doesn't deserve another chance and neither do you. Neither do I we been given this magnificent grace we been given this castle of grace with servants and find food in the best clothing and then it's like we take a stranger in and we put them out on the toolshed back no no soup for you. The thing that God may want to work on in this week.
You may hear the here and you you knows about marriage, but it may just be that God wants to take these few days to convince you again or convince you for the first time that in Christ, your heavenly father really loves you that when you repent of your sins and you turn to Christ, you know, the smile of your heavenly father. Some of us only relate to God as a judge. Okay I know I'm going to heaven all right, but he just a don't get too close to the judge was a father who loves you.
Maybe you haven't shown grace to your spouse because you really haven't accepted the grace that God wants to show you. Maybe you're so critical because you think God is always casting a critical eye on you. You cannot truly love until you know how much you have been love. So with all the other things you're going to do in your laugh and your unit eaten you're in a yellow get up with Hans at four in the morning and do all these things don't miss what Jesus said about Mary.
She's chosen. The good part to sit at the feet of Jesus and learn from him to rekindle that first love because you know it's more important than this. Love is the love that maybe you've lost with God and this is all just going to be was enemies say rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic was throughout that analogy, for here it all be superficial cosmetic. If you don't get this vertical relationship right so I know this cruise is called love like you mean it and that's good to have another tagline love like God meant love like God meant to love you to save you in Jesus because of the cross. That's the motivation and then finally the manifestation you see verse 12. No one has ever seen God.
If we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us using the argument John making God's invisible.
You can't see him now. How can you see the evidence of this, God, he argues, his love is perfected in us. So somebody says I can't believe in your God. I don't even see him say well let me show you what this God looks like. In his love. Have you met this couple know this here is about the body of Christ again. It is first of all about the love that people should see in the fellowship of believers, but if this is true, how much more often to be true in our marriage relationships that we show forth his bosses in Ephesians 5. This great mystery this mystery that is Christ and the church. Do you know your marriage is supposed to be evangelistic. Christ and the church of your notice in Ephesians 5 that God gives instructions directly to us at our point of fallenness so he says in Ephesians 5 to the woman, the sort of overarching instruction.
There is submit to your husband respect her husband. Why, because the prototypical sin of Eve in the garden was to usurp his authority and as result of the curse. There is this conflict there is. This is unwillingness to respect her husband. Just like at the very beginning when she grabbed the fruit and ignore the command and gave it to him.
So the command for the woman is respect her husband and you see for the man just, you know, the instructions for the mentor like three times as long there for the wife says love. Now the wife may think less lame because we already have the love but notice what it says there and sacrifices. This is a love as Christ loved the church and made down his life for her man what are you doing to sacrifice to love, to protect talking about just some kind of stereotypical you know macho. Here's what men do when men are, you know, there hunters are negative go out tonight. Joe stuff and look at it with my family had to depend upon me killing things to eat were dead in a week unless I hit it with a car would dead. I don't know how to do any of that manly stuff I don't know how to fix my car.
I can't change the blinker fluid I can do any of it. Okay, I'm really I go to I go to get the oil changed in the guy comes over as all you grease monkey nose or things I want to pop the hood and eyes look alike once you do, it is our heart. I'm not some talk about but to to be a man is to be a wait-and-see thing act like men pulses at the end of first currency to be a man to to know that the woman feels loved supported protected so don't don't just tell me what you believe husband are what you think you're doing I want to see a wife who feels safe feel honored, who was flourishing as a woman as a daughter of the King. That's what I want to see a member when we were expecting our first my wife was painting the nursery and I came upstairs, how's it going she's crying one of those times. As a husband. I've no idea why you cry and she said I do worry about the paint looks great no no not know is I don't know if the I don't know if it if there's paint his fields are. I don't know if this is going to cause a defect in the baby and I gently painting and so all these sort of things and and and I'm thinking that's stupid but trying not to say that because I'm a pastor and I so tell me about that but I thought I said something you know very know husband like let's read let's read the campesinos essay anything is there any sort of not see anything is pain and I didn't understand why she crying why she crying wife is making it better and finally said, I want to know that you protect me know that you even I have that moment of some irrational fear that you want to wrap your arms around me want to do whatever you can to make it better.
Your thing here. There was a time we were having a leaders retreat in our church and we got talking about marriage and I just said to some of the guys I said what would you do if somebody in the park ran up behind your wife and ripped off her person, shoved her and ran away. We had this discussion with some of their elders and our deacons and men said you know I'm not on call for help or I put my arm around her. Remember, one of our deacons, a soft-spoken man he just it was a straight face. I'd rip his head off. I thought that's probably a happy life. Will you be a man, not just to sacrifice and to love and to show forth God's love in these ways, some of the ways that are harder for you men.
Let us be the ones in marriage, who often say the word.
Let's let's go out for dinner. Let's talk about. Let's get a babysitter or how about words that are very hard for some of you men let's pray those are scary words for some and there are wives here waiting years and years to hear their husband say those two simple words. Let's pray would you show forth in your relationship. What it means to love your wife like Christ loves the church and wives, will you show your husbands what it means with gracious, graceful, intelligent submission to your husband.
Here's what love looks like it's it's first Corinthians 13 you choose to be patient when your husband struggles as a leader your kind when your wife is critical. You do not envy what the other one has in terms of gifts or position you do not boast in your strengths while ignoring your weaknesses. You are not rude to each other, especially in public I shutter when I see couples there rude to each other in public. I think what must it be like for you in private.
You do not keep a mental Journal of false and hurts you know they are always ready to pull down the file folder but three weeks ago you said that you do not delight to hurt each other, you rejoice when you have occasion to see the truth even when you see truth about your own sin you always protect each other. You always want to find a way to trust each other, you always hope that God can change one another, and yourself, and you always persevere in God's grace, knowing his love for you so let me just leave you one final question and it will sound flippant, and I don't mean it to be flippant or funny. I mean it to be deadly earnest, because if we are supposed to make the love of God, visible, and if our marriage is supposed to show forth Christ and the church that we have to ask ourselves the uncomfortable question. What do people see in our marriage. Do people look at your marriage and think there must be a hell or do they think I don't even know who this God is but there must be something to I've heard about this Jesus, and I don't like a lot of the Christians in his income to hypocrites and I don't know about the church but I know these two people this marriage and got something that is not normal know your goal to be normal is your goal to be godly worldliness is whatever makes sin look normal in righteousness look strange in our world is crushing in on us.
To say here's what normal is its inner entertainment. It's in our billboards everywhere. Here's normal that's not what God calls to is likely to something super natural Christ and the church that someone might be able to look in and say that a little bit of how God and his people love each other. The secret to a happy marriage is to learn that there is much more to your marriage than being happy if your marriage is to show forth Christ and the church. It means that ultimately God is the end of your marriage don't think that little things are at stake here with your marriage, the glory of God is at stake in your marriage, your relationship is meant to show forth and write down to his glory, which is why we can't give up, and why he will not give up on us secret to a happy marriage is to make the marriage about God and not about your happiness. Let's pray our heavenly father we know your what your word tells us unless a grain of wheat falls into the earth and dies, it remains alone, but if it dies, it bears much fruit teaches this paradox of the Christian faith that we will be raised up when we get low will be found when we are lost we will only live we carry across. We thank you for the gift of marriage. We thank you for the glory of Christ. We pray that one would serve in the other. In Jesus name, amen mother you go, that's Kevin DeYoung I'm Selah Mike drop right exactly dropped the mic walk off and got them nuts.
That's right that Israel at that thinking Earhart and and Kevin's message from the love like you Mia marriage cruise. This was back a number of years ago. Each year on the cruise your messages like this. Each evening there's a session their morning devotions.
There are breakout sessions that happened during the day for men and for women optional sessions. There is music. There's comedy. I mean, it is a ton of fun. But it's also spiritually enriching.
I know couples who have been six, seven, eight times on the cruise. They say it is what we need to get us through the rest of the year. It is being intentional about your marriage in pouring into the most important relationship in your life and and the cool thing about it is he can be fun yeah I mean be playing ping-pong or full-court basketball hours surfing on the top deck and then I go to a session at night. Who can beat that you have joy and refreshment at same time you're working on your marriage if you want to sleep in. He can do that because your schedule is your own, but we offer a lot of great things to help including all softserve ice cream you you good or bad you don't either. We have what we have just opened up registration for the 2022. Love like you mean it marriage cruise, and I gotta tell you, it's clear to us. A lot of you are ready to go with us because were heard from a lot of people were starting to see the cruise fill up for 2022.
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