As a Man Thinketh…

When you have a son or daughter who is battling anxiety or depression, pastor and biblical counselor David Murray says one of the things we need to be doing as parents in that situation is to go with our kids into the book of Psalms to help our kids to what ever the field ever.

The thinking ever horrible, ever horrendous in front of audience to walk away when the conditional number no condition to them and then walk with them into the presence of gold cementless. Do this before going to I can help you little he can help you massively and cottage them with mainly times repeated over and over in the Psalms. This pattern leads to joy, peace, confidence.

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Our hosts are Dave and Ann Wilson and Bob Lapine find us online@familyliketoday.com if you have a child who is battling depression or anxiety. It's a tough battle but there can be a good outcome talk about that today with David Murray State and welcome to family life to. Thanks for joining us anxiety or depression ever been an issue for either of you. Not that I'm aware or shaking your head like now that's I mean you have down days, but not depression at a level that has taken you out for any season, right. Thanks. Now I honestly get on one of those guys.

It is rarely struggle that armor one time early in the 90s were just at our church is back in the day were you do trauma skits sketches sometimes at least we did in our church. We are really gifted couple from Broadway that could really bring light to be a short little skit and I don't know what the sermon was at Dave and I sit with Steve, our cofounder in the drama had some to do with a person can get out of bed to just really in a dark place and Steve turns to me and Steve is dealt with this one enters amigos hey Dave, one time in your life. Have you ever one day in your life in a minute will get out of bed I go no never had a moment like tangos yeah that's what I am given the sermon today and I you quagmire Scripture just that.

Yeah I was in my early 30s and had never experienced that Knutsen right or wrong, I'm in my 60s and I have experienced it not to the point I can get out of bed that I understand when people say they're in the pit. It's real the heaviness the way it is and just get off the couch, get out of bed you be okay God's good, it's like Mennonite. That's why when you type in us, especially as parents with our teens. This is a really have you spent on Palm I haven't and I wondered in thinking about it and and David Murray joining us this week to help us with this David, welcome back to counselor. Now David is a is a pastor.

He has taught counseling, taught at the seminary level Puritan seminary. He and his wife are the parents of five kids live in Western Michigan and he's just written a couple of very helpful books, one for teens called why am I feeling this way and another for parents. Why are my teenagers feeling this way to deal with depression and anxiety are some people, they would just temperamentally more inclined more melancholy and other people just are going to be optimistic and positive. And that's just how God made them as you talk. This goes for somatic see the curvature is that this melancholy people is that yours the gate depression write a collective mixture is actually the majority of people I have helped with the place and are more like Dave type a high achiever and high-paying OJ take optimistic, but what happens is as they get older.

They're still trying to keep all these levels of expectations and performance, but the ability and the brain is saying. I know I'm not going there I'm Saudi and of course you also accumulating more and more responsibility as you grow older usually and eventually when these limitations not recognized even by the most hyper type A types they will crush as well and so I like to try and smash the cricket shall be built so that the type A so think about home to me to be cautious now with with teenagers who are still in the early stages of development.

That's where your book is focused. This is not about your body not being able to respond that mean you're you're kind of at the peak for them.

There's a lot of environmental pressure. There is a lot of figuring out who they are. There are spiritual issues there wrestling with.

There may be biological issues kicking in and we talked about those things this week