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With the cost of a four-year degree estimated to be over $200,000 in 18 years real decision. Many families must make Prudential we will make sure your biggest financial goals never have to come at the expense of one another because financial wellness means planning for their future and yours. Get started today Prudential.com/plan for both insurance Company of America in New Jersey morning hallway and this is Sunday morning a college education has long been a big part of the American dream, particularly for young people raised in poverty with the first in their family ever to attend but in a cruel twist. The rising cost of college and their own meager finances are leaving many aspiring students quite literally out in the cold Lee Cowan reports our cover story, you would know it by looking on college campuses all around the country. There are students working to get their degrees don't know where to go to sleep to where to get their next we I think the idea that hard-working, talented people were trying to get an education being derailed by cluelessness is a crisis, homeless and hungry in college we Sunday morning unheard of and unheard until just a few years ago, podcast, or just about everywhere these days.

David Pogue takes a look inside the podcast phenomenon Steve Hartman watches a wrestler when by losing will also dig into the history of the English channel tunnel and more coming up when our Sunday morning podcast continues the college board says that for typical student low-budget for living expenses comes to almost $17,000 a year with housing making up nearly half the cost. No part-time job could ever put a dent in that which may explain why more and more students are finding themselves out in the cold. Our cover story as reported by Lee Cowan, Jasmine. Big ecology can almost taste graduation Michael students here at Humboldt State University.

Nestled in the shade of the California redwoods finals are coming and she's studying hard, but it's her life outside her college graduate may be the toughest test of all the hardest thing was just like not been able to find housing and that was like the big issue that sit in my way would you do I live in my car and I kind a couch served after that I moved into like this big trailer and in the trailer roof collapse. The little bit that Van yes okay here in the parking not far from the library here so I keep on my life after supplies that here is Reiki by plant pots and pans being homeless something you'd expect from a student on the Ford family foundation scholarship. But even that wasn't enough to help with the high cost of housing near campus.

There was some like emotional poignancy that arises is like crying because it was hard like I think about things is like I put myself here so had to deal with it, but you put yourself over good reason to get to school yeah yeah for sure there's a goal at the end of the tunnel every morning she makes her way to a women's locker room he is. She brushes her teeth. Showers kids off the clock later back to the bay. What is so important for you to go to school and get your degree you to put yourself through all of this and I like I may go become something and I'm getting succeed in it and keep trying enough hard like a disc. I keep trying number of homeless college students struggling just like Jasmine is. But it's been going to financial aid applications. There are more than 68,000 students claim to be home.

I think the idea that hard-working, talented people were trying to get an education being derailed by cluelessness is a crisis server Goldrick Rab is the leading national researcher problem. She's from or the hopes are and a professor of higher education policy at Temple University in Philadelphia. One of the things that change in the United States over time is that if you grow up without money we sent a pretty strong signal to the students that financial aid is available and you should try college because it's your route out of poverty.

So part of the problem is that people who were going to college before go to college and it's hard to view that as a problem. I think the problem is that they're going to college but we didn't build the support for public elementary and secondary school students whose families can get some support from things like federal free breakfast and lunch programs for college students much that assistance dries up every time you tell people about this problem seems I'm in a way it's been hidden.

I think a lot of people didn't talk about. I also think that most people just about tuition. Some of those struggling with housing responded to a recent survey, Rab conducted was the largest of its kind ever done involving more than 43,000 students at 66 institutions. The result nearly one in 10 college students, so they were homeless in the last year you had at least one night know they were going to sleep. I think people are struggling the most are not.

And that's the part that scares right is a possibility you don't know how deep the problem.

Colin is actually worse colleges generally don't like to talk about.

She says, and even the most. Dom Cornell is a 22-year-old undergraduate Depaul University in Chicago didn't want anybody to look at too descriptive to yourself. There's a underlying feeling of just sharing that.

That feeling of loneliness studying political science. One day, going to law school. My dad never want to college to college. I would be the first person I knew I had to do it. Dom's parents have been out of the picture.

Since child his mom and struggled with addiction is that has been in and out of prison money for his tuition comes from a patchwork of funding scholarship student loans and some financial aid. He stressed all about as far as he could, but last spring he found himself living in a shelter outside of town related to the shelter in time because they have to be that a certain time to get in. Sometimes at the same parks and forests often would you go hungry. By today's without really getting real.

Today's exhibit of Eden out of the trash before when you're just trying to survive.

You'll do whatever it takes to speak on a commuter train to get to class mostly in one day. It almost became too much to be as passionate as I was about my classes and about the things I was learning about the just just got too hard to be homeless. Remember I was standing on the platform of the L train on a sad thought about jumping, giving Different from I think it was knowing very well that there are a lot more kids like me Depaul USA national homeless charity has seen the problem all across the country to Chicago started a homeless housing program called the design lease. This house working on for at least 1/2 a dozen students a low-cost place to stay as long as they keep up their grades and do chores around the house. A lot of the stents either had a place to call home and lost it. Never had a place to call ever anymore's the directory here has never forgotten the day Dom came asking for help came into my office and say let's go get lunch in the middle lawn. She stopped eating.

He said Abram sorry but I don't eat often. My stomach a shrink.

I can't eat that much food. And at that point hit me like oh my gosh like this.

This guy need someplace to go. Now, so it converted in office into one more bedroom and acted very likely save Dom's wife is still surreal to me as I still wake up. Sometimes it's like while I'm here renounced, you know, feeling the weight is lifted off my shoulders like I can concentrate on my glasses I made on the Dean's list graph. I had never done so well during a college quarter never have stability for installing needed homelessness is indiscriminate it can affect anyone anyway, Sarah Goldrick Rab is from students struggling all across the country.

Big universities to rural colleges. There are middle-class people going through these problems and they're going through them for the very first time in college.

Most people don't realize the research on homelessness indicates that one of the guiding factors contributing to homelessness is just bad luck luck isn't something most educators can spot even if they see the struggling student every day.

I remember walking across campus.

One day a young man walked up to me and he says I am. Are you the college president.

Yes, I am want to talk to you because I live under a freeway, and he ended by saying, and I want you to know that there are other students on campus just like me.

Catherine Jeffrey is president of Santa Monica, he doesn't offer housing. The school has tried to address students who are going hungry. By offering food pantries like this. So we have a variety of canned beans and ravioli coarse peanut butter on the college staples all the college stay focused while health folder the healthiest options.

Students work with administrators to organize this, farmers were fresh fruits and vegetables are handed out each week. No questions that perhaps the most innovative idea came from UCLA students who with the help of donations and grants set up the students for student shelter Santa Monica church so this is our kitchen is completely run by more than 80 student volunteer like Jordan vague we have for student volunteers from UCLA who are on site every day. We cooked dinner for the residence we eat together.

I really bond with each other to community is a community. Marissa Lopez knew she was lucky to get in is a waiting list of at least 100 lots. My bad. I thought she studying art history and nearby Santa Monica College ensures this small room with nine other students as small as it is, it's coed the I think that's a private academy asked for too much because I worry I'd been given a lot because the students who run it. Also have to go to class. The shelter empty out seven in the morning until seven at night, usually Marissa passes that time by studying on campus. I was, say, a little thing about today and tomorrow. I got a survive like what can I do today located tomorrow where it is a lot optimism.

I know a little selling here today.

I this past June, Richard got her Associates degree graduating with honors. It's good.

The high honors.

What is like you're shy about selling knowing that what if I did have a place to live. I cousin way better than what I'm doing now is now out of the shelter and she's working on her bachelors dream school UCLA which is covering her tuition. It was the volunteers of the students for student shelter who help hook up with cheap housing near campus. As for Jasmine Bingham. She and her man have finally left at parking lot last month.

She graduated from Humboldt State with a degree in kinesiology with hopes of becoming either a teacher or an athletic trainer will likely never know just how many students start college, but believe without their degree and elusive statistic Dom Cornell says is actually a loss for everyone to be looked at as well there goes that almost college. Where future lawyers or future doctors, future politicians and nurses in teachers we may be homeless but were a lot more than that to you and now page from our second morning almanac January 20, 1986. 33 years ago today, the day British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher and French Pres. Fran�ois Mitterrand broke new ground, United Kingdom and France have decided today on the basis of reports by expert countries by twin board tunnel. Although in English Channel Tunl. between Britain and France was a long-standing dream reality had forced would-be travelers to rely on fairies or anything else that came to mind, but by the mid-20th century, the channel tunnel began to take shape, if only in soon after that joint 1986, announced instruction began for real.

And when the British and French tunneling crews first met in the middle 1990s it was very big news anyone has been able to walk between Britain and France Ice Age militant 8000 years ago in 1994.

The tunnel was completed with Queen Elizabeth and Pres. Mitterrand sharing the first ride in a Rolls-Royce carried on a train as the train huddled along the 90 miles and yards below the channel 31 miles long 23 miles of it underwater. The channel tunnel or channel for short, is a crucial link, both real and symbolic between Britain and France carrying high-speed trains between London and the continent's role might change in the wake of Britain's bitter Braxton debate remains unclear, so say since as of now there's no light at the end of that special podcast pandemonium is definitely thing with David Pogue.

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I knew I had one bullet left I shot a there's also more kids shows these days go back to chapters your morning and night toothbrushing show news is bigger categories of the New York Times daily is one of the most popular shows on Monday I yes the daily wildly popular 25 minute news that the New York Times releases every morning at 6 AM this is the daily daily has turned host Michael Bavaro into a minor celebrity. When I bump into people on the subway and they say are you Michael D was the daily I want to know everything about how they listen when they listen when it fits in the people's lives have such a strong connection to show what are the elements that have made the daily such a hit.

I think it's the way we choose to tell stories. So what is happening. The curtain is removed, it's you it's awesome for telling you to process your hearing how we search for the news and our own uncertainty sometimes is grasping at the truth and figuring it out. She has all the details of like what it's been like apartments isolate people are saying that right now is peak podcasts. Yes, what is going on. Everybody has these smart phones in their lives.

I think the quality of podcast is just sort these days most of the popular podcasts are produced by large companies, but there's still plenty of room for the little guy. We get about 15,000 downloads a month, which to me seems great because we have no marketing, no advertising, no, no promotional word-of-mouth from people who listen all the time. Ken and Martha Wiseman are retired teachers and the creators of the RV navigator podcasts where they talk about the motorhome lifestyle we just sit down and wherever we are. We can sit on our bed, we can sit in the RV with sit here and it's just a matter of finding a place so here we are in studios but mostly they record their podcast. Where else in there are older listeners were the entire studio microphone and a computer campground or you here in Titusville, Florida. Wiseman's podcasts doesn't play ads and doesn't make any money they get a different kind of reward for their efforts. We always enter podcast with. We hope to see you in a campground near us and it's amazing that we do get people casinos in a campground near them, they will run into somebody who takes out to lunch and talk to us about good things to see and do in their area and it's really enriched our lives. Last year alone, 200,000 new podcasts made their debuts. Advertisers are expected to double the amount they spend on podcasts by 2020 and 44% of Americans say they listen to a podcast plus at least a dozen podcasts are now being adapted into TV shows including more to dope Queens cereal and homecoming.

But deep down is the time does Michael Barbera points out, podcasts are still just a new spin on a very old idea is that it's been made new Mary, urgent, lovely way. Sometimes you really can win by losing Steve Hartman has the story of good sports as a state champion wrestler Marek Bush has very few sophomore from Central Valley Academy does have at least one rival junior from Indian River named Logan Patterson.

Marek met them on the map earlier this month at practice are that entire week. I want Terry Cavanaugh was the referee and its porcelain time and I've never seen anything like it is expected.

It was a great match until just about 30 seconds left. Logan twisted up to that point Marek had been losing Logan's arm is now so badly injured.

There was almost no way Marek so he told his coach. I got this and went back in to do what he says he had to do. That's American again. All he had to do was stand up his hobby instead Marek just told Logan sorry about his arm and surrendered Logan believe he just said he didn't know think is goodness of his heart. He is a great person, like a weakling as I know he's the weekly at all mean state championships come and go, but that you can't take that away from kid crowd watched on their feet blurry eyes as Marek lost the tournament won the admiration of everyone, especially his dead Bob very proud. It's not about winning all times doing what's right and he did.

More importantly, Marek thought doing the right thing would make him look like a weakling, but he did it anyway.

That's a powerful and in and I'm Jane Pauley. Thank you for listening and please join us again next Sunday morning, it's me Drew Barrymore all my goodness, I want to tell you about our new shout to his knees and each episode mean weekly gas that can cover all the quirky find inspiring and informative stories that exist because well I and maybe you do to from the newest interior design trend RV car to the right and wrong way to wash her arm. Also getting the things that you just kind of will probably not able to do in daytime television so watch out. Tristan is ever you get your podcast on the got