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Make sure your next deck with tracks tracks.com orders good morning Jean Pulley is a little under the weather, walked up and this is Sunday morning this month marks the 50th anniversary of the riot at New York's Stonewall in a celebrated milestone in the campaign for gay rights not so well known are the beginnings of that struggle and the man many of you as the grandfather of the movement for equality will tell you all about him in our cover story in 1957 when Frank Hammon he was fired from the federal government for being gay. He did not go quietly whenever I see footage of Frank Hammon in just a handful of others. In 1965 picketing outside the White House. It's just so courageous. Frank wouldn't say that Frank just said it was the right thing to do on Sunday morning.

The grandfather of gay rights. Our Sunday profile this morning is that most well-connected actors Kevin Bacon Lee Cowan will do the honors years in the public eye Kevin Bacon when it was came along the didn't know the works of their first choice at the time I was in the first 6° of Kevin Bacon on Sunday morning.

The DJ +75 ceremonies this past week struck a chord for anyone with a parent or grandparent who served in World War II that may be particularly true for the grandson of commanding officer, Gen. Dwight D Eisenhower. He talks with our David Martin on DJ Ike sent warriors into battle casualties could reach 80%. This was a landing that had to succeed. German soldier. This is the landing that house to fail. This was a fight. This is not Germany giving up ahead on Sunday morning. David Eisenhower remembers his grandfather's war Chip Reid has a question or two for CNN's Jim Acosta date. Salie talks with Broadway and screen actor Andrew Randles will remember New Orleans's own Dr. John and more all coming up when our Sunday morning podcast continues yesterday, Martin Washington much to one man. You might call the grandfather of the gay rights movement Frank Hammon. He stepped out into the open in a fearful time when most gay people lived in the shadows as a new documentary in theaters this weekend makes clear is a list of State Farm employees.

One of the whole gear worked in Rome confessed July 3, 1953 additional interview scheduled for purposes of developing information concerning others wanted Paul to tell about other people. One person get that person to form you may have heard of the red scare of the 1950s, the fear, stoked by Republican Sen. Joseph McCarthy that communists had infested the federal government but a panic of a different shade. Led to a much wider purge of gay employees that long outlasted McCarthy's tenure. Her David K Johnson is the author of the definitive history of what's come to be known as the Lavender scare. What is the Lavender scare I discovered is a fear fear that permitted Cold War political culture. This fear that the gay people were a threat to national security that they had infiltrated the federal government and that they needed to be systematically removed from government service. The routing out of homosexual employees became official policy with an executive order signed by newly elected Pres. Dwight D Eisenhower in 1953. This is a guy who understood first-hand a real threat is the supreme Allied Cmdr. in World War II so you would think you would understand the real threat probably see this as a threat, but he saw that it won election as expedient, politically part of their campaign. Let's clean house.

Let's get rid of all is Josh Howard, formerly of CBS News has produced and directed a new documentary soon to air on PBS about the Lavender scare.

He says there's a good reason, you probably don't know about this chapter in history. The Lavender scare happened in private.

The people who are being fired didn't want to tell their closest friends and relatives why they have been fired because they wanted to stay in the closet.

If you are found out to be gay in those years.

Your life was essentially over. You are shunned by society.

You were shunned in the workplace. It's it's the reason people were in the closet in the 1950s, even in private homes. Gay people were not safe from investigators at Christmas time. Some friends were having reported. Somebody must've tipped them off poorly for gay people were going to be Bob can Chilean Navy serviceman was told to report to the police station for interrogation freely admitted that I was gay, and then they said, we also want five names of other people you know. So I searched my mind about names of five people I thought would be least heard. My impression was that after I name the five names but let me go and nothing else would happen after the book, and we were all just church was there any due process and could call a lawyer you could not bring an attorney was allowed unit is forced to answer yes or no to confess or the security officials boasted that gay people very easily confessed and told the truth they don't talk about is the fact that they essentially blackmailed Fred to tell their families to litigate people quietly resigned. Johnson estimates that between five and 10,000 people were fired or resigned and will never know how many didn't pursue their dreams for fear of exposure, Navy Capt. Joan Cassidy came from a family of proud veterans. She had a shot at becoming the first female abnormal tourist couldn't do it this chance to take soon to give up the possibility of because I was gay because I wasn't sure I could hide it. Other stories ended in the worst possible way. Truth parents, the son of immigrants spoke five languages was serving in the US Embassy in Paris when investigators confronted him with evidence that he was gay. Shortly after confessing he killed himself. He wasn't the only one that I saw lots of news reports newspaper reports of single young men government employees who committed suicide in Washington for no apparent reason. No one was defendant gay people. The Democrats stayed away from this issue at the time the ACLU believed it was perfectly legitimate for the government to fire homosexuals as a threat to national security.

This is the ACLU ACLU, the persecution of homosexual public servants gave rise to the gay rights movement in the pugnacious person of Frank Caminiti Kami, a PhD from Harvard and an astronomer with the US Army map service is fired. In 1957 for being gay.

To the best of my knowledge and belief. I was the first person to fight back out of all of those large number of people that will fired in the 50s. He says that this issue is it's not about national security is about morality. It's about civil rights and it creates this new rhetoric, he calls himself and his his colleagues in the group. Homosexual American citizens. You can't forget either part of the in 1963 he became the first openly gay person to testify on Capitol Hill.

Dan in 1965 he organized picket lines in front of the State Department and the White House. Every American citizen has the right to be considered by a government on the basis of his own personal merit as an individual is very courageous never been done before and they were scared to death about the discriminatory policy continued in 1980 Jamie Shoemaker worked for the national security agency as a linguist.

What kind of a security clearance.

Does your job require very high side, probably more than the president has actually might be surprised one day his supervisor told him that security wanted to question him in the first thing they said was Mr. Shoemaker. We understand her leaving the gay lifestyle, so well.

I didn't think I was leaving, but I'd suggest, and immediately they took my badge off and they read me my rights and so he called Frank Caminiti and he yelled at me and said that the picture bad and what shut your mouth. Six months later with Kami's help, Shoemaker made headlines when the agency allowed him to keep his job and his security clearance.

In 1995 after 42 years.

The last vestiges of Eisenhower's executive order were finally overturned.

How many gay federal employees actually spied for foreign governments. There was not a single example of a game at her lesbian who ever submitted to black male for an agent, not a single one in 2009 Frank Kami was back White House Frank this time invited by Pres. Obama for ceremony extending the rights of gay federal employees.

Caminiti died in 2011 not long after he was interviewed by Josh Howard who says there are still lessons to be learned from his courage. I grew up in a time before there was marriage equality, and before Stonewall so I'm in some ways envious of younger people. They are growing up in a more tolerant society but I also hope that they understand that quality is is not a given that there are people who fought and sacrificed those accomplishments this past Thursday America and much of the world marked DJ +75 David Martin has been talking to the grandson of the man who launched that invasion.

Gen. Dwight D Eisenhower right on the eve of DJ Gen. Eisenhower paid a visit to the airborne infantry commander sending lawyers into battle.

His presence is saying to them whatever happens to your sacrifice will be meaningful. One of the soldiers and the is one soon. David Eisenhower's the grandson of the general who commanded the greatest military operation of history's most terrible. My grandparents are stand here on this when no one in that window on the way we disappeared. David grew up on the Eisenhower farm at Gettysburg just over the hill from the scene of the greatest battle of the American Civil War president.

I name the presidential retreat at Camp David. After his grandson. They were close but not close enough to share memories of deed. He did not tell stories.

In fact, I was discouraged from really raising the subject with him. World War II was not that safe topic because this would apply to Franklin Roosevelt and everybody in command responsibility. Winston Churchill, will they said their piece and memoirs.

He said it the way they want to say it. I think that they felt that every decision that they made in World War II. Consequences the decisions were too consequential to be the subject of small talk about the stills of the lives of literally millions in your efforts to put all my toys right here and have my battles at night. David did not learn about DJ sitting at his grandfather's knee. He learned about it researching and writing Eisenhower at war, which was a finalist for the Pulitzer Prize. He did not have a grandiose notions about his position toward his partner something much larger than himself. He understood that Pres. Roosevelt named Eisenhower, commander of the operation code-named overlord in December 1943, just six months before troops were supposed to go ashore at Normandy. Here's the goodness they have this magnificent planning place.

When I start playing what he had to make sure the plan would actually work.

The initial thought was three divisions with two following up many a five division overlord. He wanted 12 divisions expands is to expand the landing doubles Olympic doubles better than doubled 2.8 million men and 7000 ships were assembled for the invasion and the follow-on land.

There were too many decisions for any one man to make one decision only. I could to launch the operation. That is the one which was his. What are the factors she has to consider in making go no go decision. The overriding factor is the safety of oiling and that is a combination of whether the patient driven reinforcement. We came down here praying at the weather would be sufficiently good. We can go one of the few times. Eisenhower ever spoke about DJ was with Walter Cronkite on the 20th anniversary in 1964.

They visited the command post where he was given the weather forecast for June 5 were to ever so then he talked about Gales getting the beaches and winds up to the rate of 45 miles an hour planning would be impossible forecast for the six promised a brief break. I thought it was best that I just got okay will go in to with Germans really felt that the water precluded landings and they were right. But what they did not see was a window that had appeared in our forecasts of about 18 hours winds were still high visibility, low which made the paratrooper drops behind beaches hi Rick, before he paid his famous visit to the 101st airborne I was warned they could suffer 80% casualties, he understood that the risk for very high for the soldiers. This is a landing that had to succeed you just do things when you know what has to work. That would not otherwise do good German soldier. This is the landing that has to fail yours fatherly. This was a huge fight.

This is not Germany giving up in the final hours before the invasion. Eisenhower wrote this letter in the event the landings fail the troops marinating did all the bravery and devotion to duty could do if any blame or fault attaches to the attempt is mine alone for strong.

I did not have to take the fall for D-Day claim credit for its success.

When he visited me for the last time Cronkite so everything was finally some an individual act of heroism. Three weeks after the first landing in Normandy is called by military experts greatest young man still in the picture. What he does. DJ in the liberation of Europe made Eisenhower. The most famous general in America. The so-called man on a white horse road to victory in the 1952 presidential election. His smile made. I like Ike a natural campaign slogan, but watch what happened to that smile before a gathering of World War II veterans. I'm sure one of the things that came to his mind right away was here. I am running for president and 1200 people died on Omaha Beach on June 6, 1944 there there and I'm here 1200 on Omaha Beach 4400 American and allied dental told on D-Day Russell Woodward of the 29th Harry Ramsey of New Jersey underclass 82nd airborne target. If any one person deserves the final word on D-Day. It is surely Dwight David Eisenhower. I devoutly hope that will never again have to see such things as we must find some way to work and to gain an eternal pace. When was the last time the concert left you saying wow it happened pretty recently for one young fellow and Steve Hartman has his story are some of the best classical musicians in the country but one recent performance by the Handel and Haydn Society in Boston. The most memorable moment didn't come from anyone on stage at Symphony Hall. It came from the audience right at the very end of Mozart's Masonic funeral music was here that someone yelled wow and it resonated not just in this hall throughout the classical music community is just such an archer from typical audience protocol, which is why the president of the Handel and Haydn Society was absolutely thrilled. I was like that's fantastic. This is David Sneed and also as a sense of wonder and you can really hear the tape you would like. This was amazing. David was so smitten by the outburst, as was the audit that he decided to try to find the voice sponsor was that because he really touched my life in a way that I'll never forget this reminds me a little Cinderella try to find some that he was at the ball. I submitted an email back to everybody and everybody in the audience and eventually that email found its way to concertgoer Stephen we did – out like like were returning in the punk and Stephen was there with his nine-year-old grandson Ronan. Ronan is the one who shouted while surprised Stephen more than anyone because he just doesn't do that usually is in the world by himself when he say Ronan is autistic and considered nonverbal, but clearly using may be a wormhole into his heart and mind as a thank you David arrange for a private cello performance around Ronan's family says all things should go to David handling Haydn musicians who made that moment possible.

They say just hearing Ronan's reaction after being told for years. He might never put more can you say thank you and well here again is no loose as followed Kevin Bacon throughout his career.

Along with that game 6° of Kevin Bacon. He talks about it all in our Sunday profile from Lee Kaplan. Even in the middle of an interview.

Those who think they're connected to Kevin Bacon by 6° or less. Try to prove it with a picture strangers, mostly after more than 40 years in the public eye. Think you be bored with, but is often what you hear from celebrities is such a pain in the ass and anywhere and lastly there is a certain amount that is true.

99% of it is really good first start seems to be everywhere and fear being there quickly realized it made it no there was a moment to listen.

Really no definite. The best gig best see the best moment for whatever is around the corner it's it's it's not. And that's what keeps you going hungry like the gritty FBI agent. He's currently playing Showtime series talk to me like I'm your mother. It was a good time in my life. The play somebody who could not shut up and that's this guy Megan's character is a corrupt yet endearingly irreverent fed teams up with young assistant DA played by Alice to solve a string of armored car robberies plaguing the city of Boston you get a kid roach docket form.

In my case about the accident before you know if you're from Boston. You think it's terrible. You have to just resign yourself to for a proud Philadelphia no Megan is a northeastern heart leaving Philly for New York in just 17 to enroll in acting classes at the Circle in the Square theater school before you know what an actor, was I kind of knew that I wanted because you know well, because as an barely being able to walk. I would walk into a room and have this intense desire for people to look it out to be one of the biggest thing I wanted to be the center of attention definitely some actors will claim that that's not part of their DNA, and as you really want to be the center of attention or you just are a liar. That's what we do mean we perform course is his first ever choose to re-create those moves. Some might be wearing fraternity pledge and how are you got the part of Jim Diller, an animal house when he was still enacting school teacher at the time a bit surprised he got it at all lump in my throat and I said I'm going off to make this moving said that they never forget is a direct quote. They kept pain. I remember exactly where I was last night that came so bumpers Friday the 13th you been drinking already and his memorable role as a low-level drunk guy to Nancy or something I can figure out what is footloose's first meeting. One of the new writing studio at the time didn't like didn't want me basically said that he's just almost worse than failure back yeah yeah especially because I really thought I was 69. Take for 54, but the fame that followed would lose didn't sit well at first. Now I was a popstar so I wasn't comfortable with and I pushed back. I didn't really ride that way you know I think I went into a phase of of self sabotage because things just started to go south from a career standpoint, I was just try to figure out my place in the in the in the movie business. Where did you find your place as a character actor and I felt things just change like people started calling their calling about smaller, but better parts and those were the parts we found himself sharing the screen with the likes of Jack Nicholson question anywhere in our future.

Sean Penn now see, this is Tom Hanks and Meryl Streep you flip this on ubiquity that sparked the 6° of Kevin Bacon game in the first place movie with Val Kilmer. No, but Val wasn't talking with Tom Cruise and Tom's in a few good men first know what I heard about six joke at my expense Into my fears of not being taken seriously, that, you know, I was no joke.

Parliament came to embrace again, necessarily, but the idea that we are all linked 6° to me if you really take me out of it. Not only is it a beautiful notion it's an important notion that's what we do we make connections is charity 6° W challenges everyone to connect with those who either need help for doing the helping. All of this is reasonably something really needs especially often overlooked nonprofits like the dual organization reaches out to disadvantaged youth through all manner of programs, including performing where bacon fit right in. Second only to his passion for music, writing songs was 12.

He is a man with his brother Mike bacon eat out your credit so far to her the reason Allstate side of bacon to pretty high profile, his wife of 30 years is actress Keira Sedgwick got to spend for this is hard to get a birthday present for Bart. They shared a bench just like they share their profession. He's worked with her. She's worked with him. In fact, Sedgwick just finished directing bacon in an episode of city on a hill and I knew she would be good at it. Partly because I can see her come onto my sets.

I could see on her face that she's think of a better way that I could play it or it could be shot or any number of things and you guys come the resorts meal was printing nothing exciting Clint Eastwood has both the breadth and depth of experience to allow himself a good long pat on the back. Instead, though Kevin Bacon is just chalks it all persists. We attribute the longevity is no secret to longevity. Longevity is in secret. You just hang in there. I think sooner or later somebody goes back even if you suck whether White House officials like it or not. Jim Acosta of CNN is always ready to ask the next question this morning our chip read has some questions for him and politely waited calling you despite the fact that you interrupted me and it's become a familiar scene with day and day out with Geordie of you here in the rain and I think you all know I'm an honest person. The White House briefing room as battleground is versus the present you worried Jim Acosta White House responded. CNN has had his fair share of heated exchanges. CNN should be ashamed of itself.

Having you working for them you are rude, terrible person.

That exchange led the White House to revoke Acosta's press pass CNN court cost is back on the job, whether he's filling euro or something in between.

Jim Acosta is not about to take a backseat in the briefing room. There are two basic criticisms of you for even from some of your colleagues and certainly from the White House and one of them is that you grandstand I'm looking at an overgrown and sees the Rosa Parks of the press corps that you sometimes make the news rather than report on the news is that a valid criticism well. I know folks are going to say that I look at as I'm doing my job and I see this is a very serious serious moment in our nation's history and I think to some extent we have been trying to figure out the best way to cover this project and I think you found the best way to cover him. I think I am. I think I found I think I found the best way for me but his way has not only brought attention to himself but to his network man who sent the pipe bombs to CNN and other Democratic targets in the fall of 2018 on his social media account he was directing death threats at me. Something along the lines of your next you're the enemy of America and so on. Now you know my sense of it is, is that what started off as an act for the president calling us vaguely is calling is the enemy of the people in his dues. I don't take questions from John Robertson of Fox and someone has gotten out of control and they don't know how to reel it back in his new book titled the enemy of the people a dangerous time to tell the truth in America. Acosta recounts his past few years on the political be first covering candidate then the title of book the enemy of the people he has called you personally, the enemy of the people has he not yet. He did that that conference right after the midterm.

So when you report fake news which CNN does a lot.

You are the enemy of the people got talk about what we've been through over these last few years, not just during the first two years of this ministration, but also the campaign, people forget about what happened during the campaign states show this arena from press corps would walk into an arena and thousands of people would start shouting at us. We are in a ring system at a big part of the rigging of these dishonest people in the media, then candidate Donald Trump would refer to as disgusting news media, the dishonest news media wires Scotland and so on.

So is that why you decided to write a book.

Did you feel people needed to know or did you also feel perhaps he needed to explain yourself in some way why I wanted to do both, but mainly chip you. My feeling is, and I feel strongly about this.

I don't want my children to grow up in a country where the press is called the enemy of the people. It's as simple as that. Jim Acosta is the son of a Cuban immigrant father and an American-born mother. Despite his heritage, though immigration is not the only issue that made him want to delve deeper as his critics might say go on a major turning point was the president's reaction violent white supremacist route in Charlottesville, Virginia in August 2017, but you also had people that were very fine people on both sides. I think that that was a very important moment, not just for the press but for the American people. I believe that there are two sides to a story when it's a matter of right versus wrong, it just doesn't work that way and I think that in this era, reporters have been thrust into a position where you know we are not only calling balls and strikes. What we are calling fouls these days. The White House briefings are few and far between.

What has replaced White House briefing don't have briefings anymore. We do this in the driveway instead making it harder for the media to call and how often to Sarah Sanders since the beginning of the ship, which is only done to briefings you've been a critic of those press briefings isn't really a big loss. Not that happen I think is a big loss because you know almost as important as what they say in the briefings in response your questions is what they don't say how they don't want to answer the questions and avoid questions and so I would love to see those briefings come back I you know I get passionate about it and maybe people sale your outsider Lane and so on is just I don't want that way of life to change for us and so yeah it's worth fighting with shouting questions to make sure that they are held accountable on the sort of thing.

I want my kids grow up in a country where we can still shout questions at the president you know you can take it, is the president right. I know Veronica thank you for listening and please join us again next Sunday morning with bleach again this week. Stephen Long live Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm money list for me to Senate races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic state that not George George's right up there, but New Hampshire's products to New Hampshire people really just kinda don't like you have for more from this week's conversation followed the take-out with Maj. Garrett on podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts