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"Mike Wallace is here"; Almanac: New York City's Central Park; Sparking water is making a splash; On the brink: The Endangered Species Act; Hannah Gadsby: There is life after trauma; Elon Musk on the next giant leap for mankind; He said, ze said: Faith Salie on preferred gender pronouns

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We count this Sunday morning. We begin this sweltering Sunday with one of the hottest talents. CBS News Mike walls legendary and often combative 60 Minutes correspondent we died in 2012 at the age of 93 is still very much a presence in these halls braver will remind us why Mike Wallace was not only your you demanded special group for family. Were you aware of that church.

There, Chris Wallace says that over the years he and his father forged a close relationship does pocket square. Yes, I thought for this interview today. It wanted to be on TV. I had on Sunday morning remembering TV legend Mike Wallace weekend every Sunday here honoring moments of nature, but it's not lost on anyone that many animal and plant species are on the brink of extinction mats despite the federal law that supposed to protect Connor Nygren assesses their peril. The bald eagle in the sky above you are seeing the Endangered Species Act of work for the recovery of our national symbol isn't all that symbolic of what typically happens to an endangered species. We have all of these small plants. These fish that very few people know about unless we really change her art would help more and more species go extinct later on Sunday morning. The Endangered Species Act tale of survival. If you ask what's so funny to most standup comics you expect to get a pretty funny answer but if you put that question to have a Gatsby will be both laughing and thinking is Luke Burbank will show and a Gatsby was living a pretty quiet life in Australia when her Netflix comedy special men that my show catapulted into the international spotlight I'm in this we frame well the moment with famous people who I don't always know coming up to me wanting to meet me to say that Anna Gatsby tries to make sense of it on my forehead.

On Sunday morning, three, and also finds the sparkling water business is bubbling over Jeffrey Kluger talks to rocket man you en masse basically speaks out on personal pronouns and more all coming up in our Sunday morning podcast continues.

Mike Wallace. CBS News revered as the very model of a hard-driving news man. Never one to be pushed aside his reputation is inspired a new documentary, opening in theaters this Friday that braver now shows us offers plenty of examples of what Mike Moss did best with you why why why there was the holding class.

Are you not, perhaps, afraid of what might happen to you. As a result of making these revelations.

Yes, I probably am a dead man already distinctive. They must be saved or something in the trench coat. Why are you so reluctant why your personified image of network television? The second half of 20 century.

Mike Wallace mentioned his name to strike fear in the cards. Brave men and women. I like what I might qualify my hard-hitting boards household name. So, new documentary called Mike Wallace is here so Michael is the foremost wards in the English language, but most dreaded words back then use the safe you hear those words.

You know you have a bad day my friend like you watch some 38 is really on the Belkin yeah many of Wallace's groundbreaking interviews when they first like this with what John Ehrlichman secret slush funds laundering money in Mexico payoffs to silence witnesses perjury conspiracy to obstruct justice. All of this by the law and order. Administration of Richard Nixon there question in there somewhere. The best question of Mike Everest which is not a question. What was it about Mike Wallace that Mike was in a way the change before Mike is very objective was very straight on my Charisma like a star. The connector came from the acting world came from performance hello I Mike Wallace was real Wallace time each man and also really show you was always with his career. I was more interested in my work that in my family were you aware that church there. Mike will Chris Wallace is anger of Fox news Sunday when did your dad start being more of an involved father for you when my brother died I think I was around 14% died in 1962 that the memory of this change. July in the summer of 1962, Peter Wallace, student DEL was hiking in Greece when he disappeared and we went over and found it had fallen off a cliff. I he is a glorious young man after Peter's burial in Greece.

Mike Wallace set out to change his life. Becoming a better father to Chris and giving up his lucrative commercial work was honest work but I was not especially proud of. He took a job CBS News correspondent we are unlikely but out for about an hour and 1/2 when Mike started doing news. He was looked down upon because it didn't come from didn't come from a background of journalism.

The chip on his shoulder throughout his career. Because of that 1968 Don Hewitt weekly Harry Reasoner and Wallace to launch a new kind of television news program.

Mrs. 60 Minutes, where he was master of the ambush interview. This is a contemptible stuff if you like to get out of there was no question five, but I don't think I could kill in person. It may just been difficult, no doubt difficult, impossible and insistent and not to be pushed aside so this was his Rolodex. Chris Wallace cherishes the old contact list other sources. He made the calls himself. He did the work he did the report, you know, I don't think it was ever anybody was any better than him on TV. In an interview, but he was first and foremost a great journalist since can you believe it will fall gradually 60 Minutes on the top TV shows as it started to take off. What was a family reaction complete disbelief guys Wallace Mike Wallace Mike Wallace.

It was fun.

It was exciting he was tickled by it and I but we were all really surprised that it happened to Mike Wallace's team down. Couldn't ask for more troops. Therefore, you couldn't let the enemy be perceived as larger is absolutely fallacious, retired U.S. Army Gen. William Westmoreland today filed suit against CBS, Inc. he charged in federal court that he was libeled in a CBS News documentary about enemy troop strength reports during the Vietnam War. The sham was perpetrated by the unscrupulous and arrogant. Mike Walsh. Mike took that personally. Seriously and felt his whole body of work was under attack in his most sensitive core of his existence caused him to feel like he's a frog spiraling down into depression and depression so severe, Wallace revealed to his 60 Minutes colleague Morley safer drove him over the edge.

Did you choose I wrote a note and Mary found was more than dropped his lawsuit, Wallace would charge back into his work for 60 minutes interviewing some of the most important figures of his time.

Corruption is everyplace in Russia agreed, why to get anything done money sparred with stars and you really believe an extraterrestrial they come visit you on the porch.

Now you're being unpleasant. Wallace is what you said this is what I was, you don't have to be that Pres. doesn't become you always have fun at his own expense. As with comedian and director rocks show watch is about a $40 watch two beautiful watches but it's a $40 work really just lights up in the dark chiefs of which you write your Mike Wallace retired in 2006 at age 88. He died six years later, getting to see his son Chris become a big success. Do you understand why some people feel such disaffection from the mainstream media yeah know that they were wild. I copies liberals. Yes, that's what I think was it hard to be Mike Wallace's son in journalism or did end up opening a lot of doors for you yes is the answer to the question, and when I became a young reporter occasionally people would say I Mike Kress and not used to staying. It still happens occasionally. Today, but I love it because it says to me. People remember now are paid from our Sunday morning July 21, 1853, 166 years ago today. The day the New York State legislature voted to set aside makers for a central nature loving journalist Frederick Law Olmsted teamed up with architect Calvert box to submit the winning design for the park, completed in 1876 Central Park provides wastes carefully landscape nature part of a city chock-full steel and concrete is just that when the from cycling trip okay central park for every form of recreation and plenty of space as well in small everything from Simon and Garfunkel reunion, 1981, Pope John Paul the second 1995 to Christo and John Claude installation 2005.

Although some activities are strictly see this is an onion story of a man named Steven Brill, 1986, was arrested for eating some of central Park protected plants. He defended his action is in Oman to make sure it's not like going into a fast food place and ordering something a defense that left Parks Commissioner Henry Stern who shipped instead of eating in the park. The park nearly a century and 1/2 old Central Park. This is full of greenery is and as always the old-time salsa water business is bubbling over with new vitality, especially on days as high as what most of the country is going through this weekend.

All true though cool sister was silly business for the student is all business. Alex somber well almost ready 123 is a fourth-generation seltzer man working at the Brooklyn-based company started by his great-grandfather Mao can say his blood. So what's really change things here great-grandfather was doing as far as the process. Nothing in this new machine is about a century old. Each vintage bottle is filled with just things New York City tapwater we chill the water to 42° charge of carbon dioxide. This is our carbonate or there's a battle going around. That's actually making the Celtic just make crystal clear across America is having a moment, my God water Melanie hand. She had food and wine magazine. Should we call this category. Water all variations in and I think ultimately it's just all bubbly to me anything that's what you base that has bubbly water CO2 added more carbonated naturally booming sales of more or less triple last and that can be really treated to one. The trend towards health and wellness and essentially the demonization of their injury. One of the biggest seller is Lacroix, but it's a crowded market with many brands and flavors.

Some are even spiked with alcohol. Mix all the flavors with it and you can really feel it for Barry Joseph. This is way more than a transient. I like to say to people welcome to the age of effervescence is an expert on the subject of the book on we wouldn't have seltzer today. If it weren't for Joseph Priestly at the end of the 18th century.

This scientist on the side was fascinated with how when you would hold CO2 overwater and you combined together that causation would stay in that water be held under pressure water + experience that's right was an experience of having the water into their mouth and create this taste sensation that can be sometimes shocking, sometimes crisp, sometimes harsh but always satisfying to some people say all seltzer person on the sparkling water. Carl mean I would say it's all the same thing.

It's all just branding.

It's all just marketing. It's all just carbonated water for the world being out of there and sparkling water as some people would say much letter sparkling water, whatever you call it making a splash with all ages including my daughter who tried it with milk chocolate – intrigued cream. It's never easy for former comrades in arms to say goodbye. This department shows us is also never to the cemetery in Chester, Illinois. Dodds is late for a funeral 50 years late for the funeral of Army Pfc. Leonard Michie, Lieut. Dodson was Leonard's platoon leader in Vietnam in April 1970.

The group was attacked in letters was to be loaded his body on a helicopter like this one and immediately the platoon went back to war that was extended agreed to ship me one day I woke up I thought I never had a chance to say thank you baby I just needed some fidelity. When Perry mentioned this pilgrimage the some of the other guys in his platoon he found out something he hadn't considered before that he wasn't alone, but there were others who felt the exact same way. So they came to Tim. Roland flew in from McAllen Texas Ernie Lévesque drove out from Springfield, Massachusetts, and Glenn Fox came here from Newport, Nebraska.

On arrival I met Leonard sister Linda at the cemetery. So glad you guys are here we are to everyone gathered to pay their respects to Leonard. That's why this is so important today because we never got to do this or have but like a lot of Vietnam vets, especially they find it hard to mourn the loss of a fellow soldier without also mourning their own survival.

My job is to bring let her know that I can do that. He gives him right after the guilt is relentless, which is another reason they're here and hope it helps with after the cemetery Leonard's family and friends held a reception for the hundred people showed up offering gentle hugs and hearty handshakes for Leonard's Army buddies their message clear his death was not your fault. Glad you survived grieving the loss can be delayed, but it cannot be denied he knows for thinking about people have to feel the pain share with others and then tuck it in the pocket carry with them forever. That's real closure.

Not forgetting, but rather finding peace in remembering close to 50 years but glad to hear a lot about saving species on the brink of extinction. Animals, however. Q will know what better chance than species who never make it out of a bumper sticker, writing tells us that that is a reality that goes back many someday. If you are in the right place and if you are looking you will look up and see an eagle on the way side. Your heart the very first broadcast of Sunday morning.

This report from Thomas Cook. They made bald eagles on the brink of extinction.

The national bird is an endangered species. 40 years later, the Eagle population has soared thanks to protections put in place by the Endangered Species Act. With your support and with the help of the Congress.

We can reclaim and preserve the natural beauty of America. In the decades since Pres. Richard Nixon signed the Endangered Species Act, the landmark law has grown to cover more than 2400 species. The good news is that 99% of them have not been declared extinct. The not so good news is only 2% heifer covered like the bald Eagle and the American alligator takes time, a lot of time. This little guy the dusky gopher frog listed in 2001.2 decades later, only 200 or so in the wild. All living around this one Mississippi pond radio very enter biologists bearing Tupperware think Chomsky it's a picture of the Endangered Species Act at work inside of the plastic containers with the 300 frogs bread through in vitro fertilization and being released to the second site Mississippi and hope that enough will avoid predators and disease and make it to adulthood. But time is just one of the challenges the saving species.

Another is money. We currently don't have enough money to cover more than probably 25% of so under current funding scenarios we cannot recover everything we can even save everything strategically as the director for biodiversity.

The environmental policy innovation center only is there not enough money. He says limited funds that do exist are frequently misallocated huge biases in which species the most. The keep the key ones are a big part of me says if you're endangered or threatened. It definitely helps if you were also cute majestic economically valuable species that frequently get the lion share of government but for every polar bear sea otter. There are hundreds more like a fairy shrimp New Mexico meadow jumping mouse or the purple catspaw freshwater muscle 40% of endangered species of plants.

There are entire groups of Hawaiian plants that are very, very endangered, down to sometimes just for individuals left and whenever one of these lesser-known species makes the news.

It's almost always because of a conflict with one species, Homo sapiens, the court agreed with environmental complaints that the completion of the dam would destroy the only known habitat of the snail daughter from the snail daughter in the 70s and found the spotted owl in the 90s because they want to have us give over a land and turn it into a frog resort to the little dusky gopher frog looked all the way to the Supreme Court last year. Endangered species are at their most controversial when they endanger profits and property when you got that call. Had you ever heard of the front before never heard of it never in 2011, the US Fish and Wildlife Service to report event that around 3% of his families 45,000 acres of land in the Louisiana had been designated as critical habitat for the dusky gopher frog, but no frogs actually live there all 40 miles away.

Back in Mississippi. There is no realistic possibility that a caravan of falls would hop down the road and magically find my land by some sort of divine or foggy inspiration. The government says the frog lived in this area before it was endangered and part of its land has the special ponds needed for survival or the designation effectively takes a land out of commerce because in order to develop it. We have to get the federal government's permission. It's not that they have taken your land, it still your land. No, but they've effectively taken earlier this month, the eight year battle finally came to an end, the government abandoned its efforts to mark his property is critical habitat. But despite these long drawn out struggles every once in a while the Endangered Species Act works as fast as a fox Channel Islands National Park in California. These foxes had nearly gone extinct when they were added to the endangered species list in 2004 today they represent the speediest recovery of any mammal in the history of the act. Foxes now show up when you're not looking for them. As we discovered mid interview with biologist Tim can know carnivore lives in a smaller and when we have, timing is everything. It's an important time in the history of the Endangered Species Act the summer the Trump administration is expected to finalize a series of new regulatory changes to the act.

One major revision would be to publish the cost for protecting and covering any new species proposed for the list. We asked the Interior Department's Deputy Chief of Staff for policy Greg Rimkus about the laws very very clear. The listing decision can only be based on the best available science and commercial information not on the cost of listing species. If you know that cost anything that might influence whether people are more likely to protect or not. If you hear that it's obscenely expensive. Well, I think the public has a right to know that I think we want to be transparent in the decision-making process change would likely reduce protections for threatened species on the list. Step below endangered.

We want to accomplish the objective of the want to protect and recover endangered species and threatened species, but we also want to do it in a way the strikes regulatory balance protects people in the public from over over committing to this issue. Changes to the act are necessary as Jake Lee but not ones that can make recovery more difficult species act has recovered 54 species is prevented hundreds from going extinct.

That's not the problem.

We defined much better, faster, cheaper ways to make it work. Otherwise, were knocking to keep pace with the extinction crisis. Many species may not have much time left. According to a recent United Nations study plants and animals becoming extinct at a rate faster than any time in human history.

It's Sunday morning on CBS and here again is Lee Cowan just what's so funny about comedian Gatsby. If you see her static routing, but her humor is also leavened with some brutally candid revelations Luke Burbank government in a Gatsby's comedy and way of moving through the world defies easy description is the right identity as a comment now identify as client but it's that unique perspective that has fans lining up to see her new live show Douglas with the reality of I'm incredibly proud and really humbled such residencies is incredible and I'm I'm so glad if you haven't heard of her. That's understandable to because she was largely unknown outside her native Australia until just last year when her Netflix comedy special in the net became an international sensation. I knew Ms. weed flame well the moment with famous people who I don't always know coming up to me wanting to meet me said, that is, we ate sleep from Tasmania famous for a lot of things the jokes are funny that after fronting the small gene that, but the parts were Gatsby Lord. The pain and trauma of her life riveted the world's I was sitting in a dark place in the year to before I wrote then it and my career was great like this doesn't make sense to have success and might my ability to cope with life is getting worse.

How about I just say what I really think and say how that flies the career self-deprecating humor that my career on and I don't want to do that anymore because to understand what self-deprecation means when it comes from somebody who already in the margin. It's not humility it's humiliation I put myself down in order to speak in order to seek permission to speak and I simply will not do that anymore, not to myself.

Anybody who identifies the company creates a response to her honesty was immense in her career. Didn't just take off. It rocketed into the stratosphere from nowhere. It's a sweet gate free say just like man that how is your life different so all this is all this is not real is it is this year there's no sign of things normalizing anytime soon. In fact, last week.

Gatsby was nominated for two Emmys from the net and this week Douglas, which is also her dogs name opens in New York a long way from tiny Smith 10 Tasmania were Gatsby grew up the youngest of five children. There was not a lot of comedy thing in Tasmania and is growing up in a if ever was on the television comedian came on. They generally represent two things my mom hated most, and that's when he shouted, and men who think that funny.

She just got news for them and switch off. That was my introduction to comedy that's a long time. Maybe that's why she waited until her late 20s to even try stand. My entire family have palindromic names.

Mom I really felt comfortable right away soon as I got my first love like I get much better that than I am okay unit or even just normal With people who I know we'd love to show you clips from Gatsby's new comedy special. Netflix has that under lock and key, so we got the next best thing. I woke on-site people clapping like idiots move the microphone on the other night and take a nap and then my stage. That's fascinating. I would never know you're doing is I have a couple and their lock you why what are you checking the temperature of the it's got a picture of my dominant songs likely literally. That's a scope is, that is an emotionally regulating frequency you one of the revelations from her new show is that Gatsby is on the autism spectrum. This is welcome to my brain. This is how I see the world and that's why the world can he really difficult for me to navigate because every day is a new day, every room, I walked into the new room even if it's the same room as a noticeable over different things was that something that you didn't talk about publicly until this show or did I just miss that information. I didn't talk about publicly before saying this publicly like this in the industry that I am doing it in does make me quiet vulnerable and so that's my careful not to really push it out. The welt too much and for those who might think Hannah Gatsby's comedy is a little too serious. I've written show that really joyful for me to perform.

I really am having a very fun time on stage there is life after entities which and it is it can be joyful later this week. Space X larger cargo rocket to the international space station and on board an image honoring the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11's mission to recommend you on mosque is the founder of space exit is a big fan of the lunar landing, and landing on other places to talks with time magazine editor at large Jeffrey Cook it was 50 years ago on July 20, 1969 when Apollo 11 commander Neil Armstrong took his giant leap all and became the first person to walk on the moon. 19 minutes later lunar module pilot soldier and joined him on the lunar surface, sparking the imaginations of countless explorers and if one little boy in South Africa came along two years after Apollo 11 and get space seems to be in your marrow. All 11 buddy on the moon was probably the most binding. It certainly inspired me much as basics would exist if not for Elon musk is the founder, CEO and lead designer of space six short for space exploration technologies privately held company makes rockets and spacecraft. I kept expecting that we would continue beyond Apollo 11 there would have a basal American that we will be sending people to Mars and here are 2019 and I say sexy does not yet have the board you sent people even to lower corporate which is why space X is one of the companies that delivers cargo to the international space station while the Russians transport. That's because NASA space shuttle program and in 2011. It may be said about the future. There we got the morning. What are you up like what what gets you excited about being alive space X headquarters in the Los Angeles suburb of Hawthorne. What excites this 48 your billionaire is the idea that lots of human beings might one day live on other planets, especially Mars. One of the sweetest spots in all the world for people who love space is pad 39 a. This second attempt Apollo 11 to the moon. Many of NASA's most memorable missions began here as well. Hallowed ground at the Kennedy space Center in Florida on historical believe is that my quest is saying on her.

What is that while I will, to be sure since its founding in 2002. Space X has had many minutes. It's the first private company to launch and recover spacecraft and watch its historic recovery of an orbital rockets first stage, landing safely on an ocean platform as there've also been a number of setbacks along the way. Musk often uses the expression, rapid reusability.

Why, he argues, should rockets make only one trip. Like an aircraft like what what plans you only expect to refuel it maybe replace water cleanup is its minor normal expectation is that you reply the plan very rapidly to turn around an hour and swirls. This is what is musk is the only billionaire thinking Richard Branson's Virgin Galactic commercial space for tourists and Amazon's Jeff Pazo's has founded blue origin in hopes of building space, I think it's good what Jeff is assisting with garden occasional like a little bit you know I think it's good what is done and mosque is only thinking thinking fast regular trips to the space station. Space space but my guess is about six months visiting the moon was sound pretty crazy, but with an un-crude vehicle interiors, but always on his horizon the planet Mars setting crystallizing lawyers. I think that's so sweet available internally we would aim for two years and then reality might be full. One day he even imagine cities on the red planet say Sam was a million times and that some serious in the long run. There's no telling what lies ahead for inhabitants of our planet Earth. Musk says he wants humanity to survive where ever we make our home you want to believe that out there among the stars. And that's that's the thing that I really excited about that curfew chatting with the city Council of Berkeley, California this past week to ban gender-based personal pronouns. She and he will now no longer appear on official paperwork. Instead, will be the gender free pronoun that which some thoughts are facing and my pronouns are she and her commonplace for folks to inform you by what like to be asked and also to inquire as an pronouns number people play signatures on the house that Mr. pronouns most American universities invite students to register and announce their PGP's preferred gender pronouns signs on campus is declared.

Pronouns matter and ask me about my pronouns don't identify as gender binary is male or female and preferred to be called someone to be called rather than sheer he is also here in Sweden. They often use the gender-neutral starting in nursery school 1800 linguists were trying out the inclusive user catchy pronouns can get tricky if your grammar geek like me can feel able to refer to a single person as they would like to get if you assume someone is male. I can feel unusual to call that person. She is the lot of pronouns. Don't fear a slippery slope in the Harvard survey of 4000 students just over 1% preferred pronouns that were not he or she is confusing. That's okay we understand someone in order to respect her or him or them.

Preferred pronouns are going away because cultural changes that involve shedding light on the human condition generally stick around. Again, thank you for listening and please join us again next Sunday will stream the least progress is crazy to its final season. The point is we need people in the best way to protect people final season Millstream exclusively on