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Lee Cowan is in for Jane. Made in U.S.A.: Bringing manufacuring jobs back to the homeland; The new face of labor; Gen. James Mattis; Valerie Harper; Dolly Parton;

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One sweatshirt at a time, but were told was too expensive to make stuff is not. I would argue cost to trying to make things in distant distant places what it takes to make it in America latest on something more. She is one of the legends of country music crew knows a little something about working 9 to 5 name is Dolly Parton and she's talking this morning to Tony to cope.

After all the movies even the same woman later. The big power player in the labor movement these days just might surprise with Leslie Stahl will be paying her a visit. Sometimes I can help with a group of people just the thing to bring everyone, but don't be by her playfulness so union leader to most people but still I think having their mowing the observer cigar chomping, George, meaning, and when you meet Sarah Nelson clearly she's been called the most powerful labor leader in the country, Sarah Nelson later on Sunday morning combat ready or two words to describe James Matt's retired Marine officer and former secretary of defense this morning is also ready and willing to look back on his days of the pentagons. How with our David Mark James Madison McDonald only once when he was picked to be Secretary of Defense you intend to serve a full four-year of course, later halfway well that that's fair, but your letter comes a time when you have to look at it and say are you aligned with the person working with Madison's first television interview since he resigned his unusual product of our present news later on Sunday morning will also mark the passing of that beloved upstairs neighbor actress Valerie Harper and more all coming up in our Sunday morning podcast content want to talk about products made in the USA.

Recently we thought this Labor Day weekend is the perfect time to check in on one entrepreneurs mission to bring back that label and at least some of those jobs are cover story is reported by John Blackstone Middlesex Carolina and this is a knitwear plan six years ago.

This apparel manufacturer in rural North Carolina was ready to close until fired Winthrop help devise the company. We spent nationally. Much of the last four years moving manufacturing overseas to chase cheap labor and lower bimetal standards and low regulation in 1980 almost 80% of the clothing box here was made in America today. It's around 3%.

Winthrop says, well, globalization and trade deals made goods cheaper.

They also brought decking layoffs and plant closures, manufacturing plants are moving to where the workers are treated just say you cannot.a bunch of communities in the US and moved to Bangladesh and back again and sell them at the local dollar store all these people are now more where the greatest jobs in the history of the world. President Trump is by no means the first campaign on bringing back manufacturing jobs sucking sound going south. There will be no more now.

New manufacturing jobs right here in America and China. Pres. Trump's answer has been, tariffs and trade back in 2012 in San Francisco fired Winthrop said about bringing back manufacturing jobs.

The old fashion way by creating this Winthrop's previous experience had been on Wall Street and in Silicon Valley, but he started his own clothing company with name American giant and an even bigger goal. Making everything start to finish in the United States, like a few other clothing companies trying to manufacturer in the US there's a big challenge all those closed factories have left a threadbare infrastructure for actually making apparel like American giant's flannel shirt. This was an art but it almost died in America had finally died.

She had to bring one of the great nine dollars out of retirement to come back and help develop good women's program creating workmen creating a supply chain involving multiple steps.

We followed the chain for American giant hoodie and learns jobs are not what they used to be Winthrop's big idea found on farms like this North Carolina where cotton is planted in the spring was the law as flight this morning right quick. Grower Jerry Hamel is looking for help as you are up to the job.

The labor for sale.

The ones that will work, all working and some are not going to work.

It makes no difference what they are all footwork, money, what kind of benefits they just not going to work each season. Hamel hires many from Mexico, one temporary worker visas come fall. They'll fix the clock and transferred to the local G. C.

The next up Parkdale Mills in Gaffney, South Carolina raw cotton is cleaned spun into yarn. Parkdale Mills has more in common with Silicon Valley and it does with the middle scene in the 1979 commend your mail. I expect to see Sally Field robots stay in business today on you world robots here will train, operate robots in the 1960s, a mill like this would've employed thousand workers today hundred 25 working producing about 2 million pounds of yarn a week then knitted fabric and sent a few miles away to Carolina cotton die and rot in hundred Brian started working with Winthrop in 2013, after realizing he wasn't the typical client contradicted the conventional thinking of I can cost out offering something cheaper than everybody else and on top of everything else is going to make it 100 miles from here in North Carolina.

My response was, this is the guy we've been dreaming about where's email for the past 15 years. The final finished fabric goes to the knitwear plan help by sportswear, where it's cut and sewn into actual clothing. This lecture is soak up some reports that each module as part of this letter to improve productivity. Winthrop placed additional assembly line so working in teams they get extra pay exceeding daily quotas. This is an example right here of a three woman modular salon readout over here with those numbers basically telling you that our expectation for the team is 73 units at this point in the day. 90 their efficiency as 123% work you one you try to be very efficient so I'm holding you up.

You have to pay these people more than you would. So when you keeping this final step here in the US Winthrop says heads as much as $17. Total cost of the reduce overhead American giant cells almost entirely online with only two stores.

So the final price tag for the hoodie we followed from the cotton fields to the gin mill to the dire to the knitwear plant to the store is no bargain $108 sweatshirt dollars sweatshirt.

What we really want to do with this particular item is make something that you are going to have for decades. In this era of fast fashion Winthrop may seem out of step. But despite its lofty price tag is what he has been selling well ever since the digital magazine slate called it the greatest hoodie ever made.

The article came out within 24 hours.

We sold everything we ever made fired Winthrop wants to inspire other companies to manufacture here for him. The made in USA label creates jobs and fraud are you selling an idea, an image is much as clothing selling a value system stand for something that matter stand for American manufacturing. Stanford people are making stuff, and when we buy we do it consciously do it with an eye towards understanding how these little votes that we make have an I will be better off with Labor Day now just a few hours away were about to watch our union power play work was installed 60 minutes takes us to the pickup Mark dancing around the picket line, Sarah Nelson, president of the Association. Don't be full by her playfulness. She's been called the most powerful labor leader in the country. What are you doing this came through in a speech he gave to the CIO in January in the midst the government shutdown. The last time there was a general strike in the United States was 1946.

In this case, Nelson was calling on all 12 million members of the AFL-CIO blackout on mass we have real power, as workers if we decide not to participate in this economy. It stops everything stops. But when you sent came as a surprise to most people.

This was an extraordinary moment for hundred thousand people are forced to come to work without pay and the people that I represent are going to work in an increasingly unsafe condition. What is the labor movement waiting for my safe she was referring to how the government shutdown was putting stress on airport screeners and others working without pay and in unsafe we will refuse to work the slides that we have that right. We have that right today when you put it in the terms that you did that you are right now there is an implicit threat to shut down the whole economy after her call for a strike.

They were a handful of air traffic controllers. He said I can't I'm too stressed. I'm too tired I can't medically do my job and the plane stopped and we said we have your attention now leader McConnell and a few hours later we had a resolution.

We have reached a deal to end the shutdown, America's longest government shutdown came to an end and Sarah Nelson became a hero, but she's fortunate in one of the biggest strikes involving aviation workers labor lost if you go back to PATCO. I don't know how old you were at Petco while third grade you are in third grade and I was covering the White House. Observers feel that Mr. Ragan has been just playing a lot wrong as his first bout with labor illegal walkout. It was 1981 when PATCO the professional air traffic controllers organization latest strike of its 11,000 members for better pay, our position has to be a reverse there is a law and that they signed so president Reagan fired them all.

Since then union membership is declined from 20% of all American workers to only 10%. The Petco strike had a devastating impact on the labor movement in 1981 Manchester traffic dollars and lost her job, but the whole labor movement was dispirited by Prof. Joe McCartin teachers labor history at Georgetown University. He says Sarah Nelson bring something new and inspiring union movement. If you're saying and later to most people but still I think have in their mind the image of the cigar chomping, George, meaning, and when you meet Sarah Nelson.

She clearly doesn't fit that image quite action of airplanes well planted tenants at 20 Airlines. She became a flight attendant 24 years ago when a college friend sold her on the idea when she started she moved all over the country flying out of Washington, Chicago and Boston. One of the planes that went into the 9/11 towers flew out of Boston yes could you have been on one of those planes I flight 175 a week earlier and I was friends with everyone on the plane. So this is Michael Turrell and Amy King and they were on flight 175 and good friends and I keep next to me every day. We were taught up to that point that if there's a hijacker on board that we are supposed to appease the hijackers try to keep the hijacker conduit. They say that was part of training that was part of training that was in our handbook, but the flight attendants on 9/11 didn't follow the handbook. They fought back they decided instantaneously to do and so our role changed even before we were told that it should change almost everything about what it means to be a flight attendant has changed. It wasn't so long ago that stewardesses couldn't be more than 32 years old had to be under a specific weight and couldn't get married sexism. This is a huge issue for people in your line of work. Our profession was objectified and sexualized by airline marketing.

This is what was this is what was so like today where it's unthinkable, but Nelson says not all the changes in her industry had been for the better. What are you saying about how crammed we are now in a window seat and the seat in front of you is reclined backward. You can't get out. Those seeds have been shrinking. They been getting closer together and smaller and packing more people in America. Fewer attendance than they used to be they airlines or staffing at the federal minimum's today and prior to 9/11, they were staffing 25 and 50% over on a regular basis. So let me get this straight.

More people on each plane and thus tighter configuration and fewer flight attendants were people more responsibilities and fewer flight which brings us to the Boeing 737 Max Jack crashed in both Indonesia and Ethiopia, killing hundreds and leaning to the planes grounding into congressional hearings. These accidents should never have happened. Both hero pilot Sally Sullenberger and Sarah Nelson were called to testify. I am here today because the public looks to planted tenants when it comes to aviation safety.

The evidence was mounting and action was being taken around the world.

We called for grounding does your union have the power to keep that plane planes take off without pilots, but they also meant to cover the planet if we believe that condition is not safe word not going to fly at your home workout which is not calling for strikes or grounding airplanes raises her rambunctious son along with her husband David but union duties often intrude have to make a call that shares okay FAA administrator wants to meet with me now.

It's not going near a working yeah yeah have a big job and you're like all the other working mothers around the country, having to do that balance thing. My son is nine years old. I often have to explain to him why I'm going to be gone or why am I not be home before he goes to bed or what I might have to leave before he wakes up in the morning. I think you think about your job. And very idealistic terms. Think about it as my calling. She certainly has a way of living up her troops time she's like a cheerleader. So what is this thing we break into saw that you know sometimes I can't help but think with a group of people just the thing to bring everyone together. No George Dini is all I can say George Meany is long gone now. As Prof. McCartin says American labor may be heading in a whole new direction.

I believe it's highly likely that the next leader of the CIO will be a woman Sarah. Quite possibly.

She certainly put herself in the conversation okay big question becoming the head of the AFL-CIO. Do you want that job. I'm I'm open to that, and then open to the idea that we can that that we can really rebuild this labor movement you ready to stand up to management that there do everything I can to keep the labor movement that all the rules in this country have been written for Wall Street and it stayed that way until we force it to go the other way. People need to understand that this is our country and this is our work and we should be respected for as a Marine. James Madison was always combat ready and as president transfer sector defense. He was front and center in many policy debates. This morning is first television interview since his resignation. This reflects on 68 eventful years with our David Mark James Madison served more than 40 years in the Marine's, much of it commanding troops in battle, but he almost didn't make it to boot camp. I fell onto the ice and I was on my way coming down that ridgeline much faster than I ever anticipated. It was the dead of winter 1971 and he very nearly fell to his death from that ridge outside his home town of Richland, Washington.

Next, I knew I woke up and there was blood all over the ice. America's enemies almost caught an early break. Well yeah but I assure you that I was a pretty average Marine.

There were a lot of other mind could've taken my place and don't drift well of me.

So this now retired from the Marines are no longer Donald Trump's defense secretary he's back where he grew up stone's throw from the Columbia River river was a big part of our lives, not a day in the summer went by me would be in the river swim in it would also need to go hunting in the fall we go camping in the summer. This is this is heaven on earth were you just freed a Roman subject very much so very much. I started hitchhiking lives about 13 and just kept right on going and ended up in jail more than once been a few scrapes along the way conscripts partying too much. One night underage in college and not spend some time in jail also got a few too many fights along the way.

When I got the tractor around the American West. So you got into the Marine Corps with a police record. Yes, I did along with fellow Marine being West.

He's written an autobiography called callsign chaos that stands for Col. has another outstanding suggestion shafts Rye response to his frequent brainstorms. As you know, my God was to go think of next. That's probably pretty apt description of how they looked at the chaos I brought that chaos was inflicted on the enemy beginning with the Iraqi army in the first Gulf War is where I first met him. That evening, no I'm not, you worry about that area know I have the job in the battalion commander and the men I have no doubt about them and Jeremy were along no doubt at all you want about two admit to me that you had any doubts leave without we got the word that we were going to lose hundreds children would Madison was taking a force of 1200 men into the teeth of Iraqi minefields and artillery.

I remember thinking at the time that this time Col. nobody's ever heard got to decide which of these Marines go first.

That's the tough part decide to leave the assaults you still yourself to make those life-and-death decisions I made it clear that no commander would report to major casualties unless I could no longer continue the fight. I grieve later in four days of fighting, that is, didn't lose a single Marine and his men rolled into Kuwait City never again, so after 9/11, he led a force of 4000 Marines into southern Afghanistan setting up an outpost called rhino was the deepest aerosol never conducted by the Marines matters wanted to go deep. We were restricted by.

We were limited in what we what offense of operation we can do for sure. I couldn't understand the timidity and why it was taking so long.

Where was Osama bin Laden when you were wrong.

Osama bin Laden was still in Afghanistan, bin Laden was 400 miles away in the Tora Bora mountains matters had the helicopters to get basically block the escape route and we would move up to Valley very confident that we had a good fix on and we pushed up the valleys. He would have to move in at that point we kill and it was the Bush administration's best chance to get America's worst enemy, but the order never came. We in the military missed the opportunity matters rights you willing to say now that you go to God. You can never get that kind of certainty that he did had a hell of a time getting out. If we got description matters left Afghanistan to take command of the Marine division in the mission. He never saw coming. The invasion of Iraq. I was somewhat flabbergasted. I didn't think Saddam could do much in terms of threatening us, there was a problem there, but I thought could be sold out of the mess invading Madison is co-author thing was shot this video is the Marines rumbled toward bag speed. We had to move quickly, any enemy given enough time can adapt to a circumstance. If you don't keep making big and start paying more is Marines famously toppled the statue of Saddam Hussein. But nine months later found themselves engulfed by an insurgency enemy would rising everywhere. The tribe got furious. Anyone reading a history book knows what's going to happen at this point there's going to be violent and we didn't have enough troops to the container that is losing the 29 gunners drivers radio operators and age who moved with him around the battlefield. 17 of the 29 labs would be killed or wounded over the next four months to give you an idea of just how bad it was and I'm in general and I'm not tough fight toughest fighting was in the terrorist stronghold of Falluja matters was ordered to liberate thought it was a mistake to use so much firepower in the city of 300,000 for you when you consume better judgment. You got to do it. That's why they're called orders not called what you don't have to like you were ordered to do it in the midst of the battle of the images of urban combat became too much matters was ordered to call it off. I could not fathom why we'd been ordered to attack and we were in first place, or why we would stop deep inside the city and then pulled back the impact of such incoherence matters. Rights cannot be overstated. Dizzying is the appropriate word field told never mind God, have confidence when you're doing it right and right to break the back of the terrace that you just do it do it as well as you can protect the innocent. To the degree you can but don't get wobbly when when the going gets tough, the Bush administration, yes just matters when sitting face-to-face. One of the shakes back the tears. I simply made certain my carbine was laying across my lap and I just reached on my thumb to the overall Honda first fire so that he'd hear it should do I look like a terrorist and I leaned forward at him. I look at yes the matter fact you do exploits like dad earn Madison nickname Matt it's not one I've ever grown fond of. No matter how many times accused when not yet had the idea incorporated into it just someone who's thoughtless someone who simply abrasive or aggressive for aggressive shake.

This is decisive battles, his aggressiveness is informed by a personal library that once contained 7000 books, 7000. I bet I read about 90% of them. II would you claim I read all of them but I am largely don't get a book and read it and underline as you did with the meditations of Marcus Aurelius, the Roman Emperor and Stoic philosopher I would carry copies of this in my rucksack will receive because if something would normally pull that out and say don't feel sorry for yourself. You're not a victim you choose the kind of way you react to this. For all his reading matters can sometimes sound trigger-happy 2005. He told an audience is a lot of fun to fight. It's fun to shoot some people. I like brawling came across most of the country, sounding a little thirsty yeah will not tormented by shame will stand up for freedom. I remember running into you while you are still dealing with the aftermath of the and you said it's only pressure if you feel Marcus really when have you felt pressure from myself, but I don't feel pressure from others to be combat ready on the battlefield is one thing to deal with the challenges of Washington is enough. Mark continues his conversation with former Secretary of Defense James Metz before James matters parted ways with Pres. Trump.

He was ousted by Pres. Obama how to get in with you and the Obama will eat it with me leaving office early matters was a four-star general in command of all US forces in the Middle East you are relieved of command I detached early and replaced early so the president essentially had lost confidence in, I believe, so I won't speak for the president.

According to Leon Panetta who was Secretary of Defense at the time the Obama White House regarded matters as to eager for a military confrontation with Iran. Iran have been caught plotting to assassinate Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the US going up this popular Georgetown restaurant five matters was concerned Iran had intended to commit an act that would've been the worst terrorist attack on American soil since 9/11. They're going to do with the bomb and for you can imagine what it would about what the carnage would look like. I believe we had to respond forcefully. Matters writes in his book callsign chaos.

My military options would raise the cost for this attack beyond anything Iran's leaders could pay but the Obama administration treated simply as a crime, arresting the low-level career and sending him to prison for 25 years. My traction inside the White House was eroding matters, writes the White House was wary of my command and increasingly distrusted me in December 2012 he was forced into retirement. You think the government service was done is quite certain it was done at the surprise election of Donald changed all that. The President-elect met matters only once.

That was enough. You intend to serve food for your course halfway well that that's fair, but you're there comes a time when you have to look at it and say are you aligned with the person working with.

This is his first television interview about his resignation. He resigned the day after the president announced that the US was pulling all its troops.

Yes. Did that decision have anything to do with your absolutely what about the decision to withdraw from Syria. I disagree with because because we need to maintain enough influence their that we don't see the same thing that happened when we withdrew from Iraq that is believed the sudden pullout would undermine the campaign against ISIS and betray allies who were fighting alongside the Americans in his resignation letter he wrote my views on treating allies with respect or strongly held. This was how I saw the strength of America that we keep our alliances together and keep them tight and if I wasn't the right person to do this then it the president needed someone more aligned with his views. This is about. I was honest and forthright with him about where it was that I was parting ways Madison plan to stay on for two months, but the president decided to replace him immediately and twisted the knife by tweeting when Pres. Obama and gloriously fired. Jim matters. I gave him a second chance ever talk to the present sense.

No, I was your last conversation with you. What is for other differences. Matters had with the president. I will not speak ill of a sitting president. I'm not going to do it but he will say this is an unusual president. Our president is and I think that especially with the just the rabid nature of politics today. We gotta be careful we could tear this country apart for about $20 you can buy a matters for president, teacher or mad dog. If you prefer, all the way he works a local bar looking good is as smooth as any politician. This is my favorite place to come see friend for no this bar was where he used a fake ID to buy his first under age 3 is not campaigning with the topic comes up in now matters is teaching at Stanford and serving on the boards of corporation and repeating to himself. One of the lessons all his reading of history taught role to play for a while so plant well but don't let it go to your head. We lost a member of the CBS family actress Valerie Harper, best known for her role as Rota Mary Tyler Moore show died after a long battle with Mary Tyler Moore show but it was Valerie Harper who became America's favorite upstairs name Rhoda Morgenstern household me with a group in a brash New York style but never seem to earn Harper remedies plus slot is finally got married in a room spinoff show. The episode became an TB event highest rated state of New York career Harper was active on Broadway and movie to working pretty steadily even after 2013, when she announced she had a rare form of brain cancer, doctors told her back then. She only had months to live. Feel like you tell me that you are part of the Marcus and family feel I know you two so I owe you the truth. At the same time with everybody else.

So the doctors where she explained living with the knowledge of death was actually a great gift more than anything.

I'm living in the moment. We want Americans in all of us to be less afraid of death and no passage that don't go to the funeral before the day of the funeral. She made it to 80 the same age. Mary Tyler was when she died in 2017 their friend and costar is nearly 90 himself set of Harper on Twitter. Her brilliant burst through and shined his light upon all of us. Good night beautiful. He said I'll see you soon Sunday morning on here again we count the street with Kenny Rogers has helped make Dolly Parton a legend of country, not to mention another well-known song of hers with a message that is appropriate for Labor Day message she shares with Tony to cope CBS this morning and we've all been singing along Dolly Ranger.

The glitzy haired 24 seven. Still writing her legacy one song at a time friend got this don't even mention money money. Our job I love to work well and I'm thankful for Dolly's open including her cosmetic surgeon as she sings in her song, not all there are not pretty. So I'm gonna hold on to say no you were not naturally pretty seen the pictures. I'm sorry beauty argue reminder now and show Grammys song, including that's right. People think that Whitney Houston song is a good line. Dolly Parton is what other people want to make a joke or make a comment you make the comment better than they ever could know what they think is funny actually do a couple of the fans take for you to do your hair real how you want people to remember you hundred years. Now you have that humor was a help for part of the fourth of 12 children will Tennessee go no go music made everything a little brighter and so encouraged, so I love music I love the sound of the instruments create something a little space hello just living in the creative how early did did you realize this is more than just a dream.

This is going to be my profession. This is a job that is all first took me to saying in front of company something that applies this is what I think – and soon she was singing for a national morning show one night after she met a young girl.

She gave the name flirted with her husband. The song helped launch Parton solo career and don't worry, she is still happily married, but as she jumped from country to pop to Hollywood. The couple never did get around to having children is that I regret now I regret was the choice of God to stop and I'm still walking back to the classic 1985 while her character Laura Lee and abuse is in the eyes of some became feminist word feminist that you find yourself thinking girl, working there job. We should get paid for itself, all about as written more than 3000 song and she says her favorite his coat of many great learn early on, really matters Thank you for listening and please join us again next Sunday will take with this week.

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