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In an interview with Tracy Smith, "Jojo Rabbit" writer-director Taika Waititi talks about how his Oscar-nominated WWII satire about a 10-year-old Hitler Youth and his imaginary friend Adolf Hitler, interjects humor into a poignant story of Germany under fascism.





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Learn more@edwardjones.com Wally, this is Sunday morning 2020 ramps up to a new level tomorrow with the Iowa caucuses and will have a report from Nicholas Thompson in the Hawkeye state just a few minutes.

Then it's on to a legend of popular music by the name of James Taylor is in a reflective mood these days, eager to share some of his memories music with us seems seen rain's voice is unmistakable.

Nine the way to some product but I think it came out really well I guess I was 22. Using all of James Taylor on Sunday. The envelope for best picture at the Oscars next weekend. The title of an unlikely comedy might just be inside.

Tracy Smith talks with its creator and star cigarette smoke nominated film Joe Joe rabbit comedy about a 10-year-old boy in Nazi Germany was imaginary friend Adolf Hitler is really important being made fun of JoJo rabbit was directed by Tycho ITT and costars Scarlett Johansson later on Sunday morning. Not one but two Oscar nominees and the story behind JoJo rabbit on this Super Bowl Sunday talking to Coble has his eye on the prize. You just need Tiffany is famous for the silver but strangely, not trophies marketing message something that deep within our culture had on Sunday morning. What makes a trophy winner Holly Williams catches up with homelands Mandy Patinkin historian Douglas Brinkley has thoughts on the impeachment trial and more all coming up when our Sunday morning podcast continues. So it began. Iowa caucuses are tomorrow. The opening round of campaign 2020. So just what are Democratic voters looking for in a presidential candidate a question our contributor Nicholas Thompson, editor-in-chief of wired magazine has been asking if you are Democratic nominee. I will tell you exactly how I see this is a unique moment in American history. I think our democracy at stake. We lost an election in 2016 and it was a heartbreaker. We didn't lose hope. Most Americans are with us on the issues and yet we often struggle with fire calls were wrapping up as I when Democrats head to the caucuses tomorrow. Also, a majority of Democrats have one thing on their minds, defeating Pres. Trump in November. Even more important than agreement on the issues we have an opportunity to send a message but just how to defeat Trump is threatening to divide the party as president absolutely could win again if we don't have the right approach to challenge and defeat candidates have roughly split into two camps, Iowa Democratic voters are split to between whether they want to candidate promises fundamental change. I like progressive thinking and really torn on their approaches to healthcare one will just bring politics back to normal really needs balance everything in this country for everyone.

We all in America.

Progressive Bernie Sanders is slightly leading and I according to the latest CBS News poll with fellow progressive Elizabeth Warren in fourth place for the moderates. Former VP Joe Biden, former mayor people to judge a cluster behind Sanders with Sen. Uniqlo Bashar fifth place no other candidate gets more than 1% selection matters not for the next four years of the next day for generations to come and put that ties creates opportunity to lay out a different vision of Donald Trump will fundamentally change who we are as country.

How were review. So what I always tell groups of Democrats in whatever state we better not screw this up. So how do you think the Democrats are most likely to screw this up for assault.

If we put a candidate you use are so contrary to a lot of people in our country.

The fundamental question for the Democratic Party nominee is a moderate progressive voters get on board or sit the election out, or vice versa. If it's a progressive nominee moderate stable all the candidates are trying to appeal to the sense of the country wants to be united but united for what united only to defeat Donald Trump or United for a vision.

Lychee heat is the spokesperson for justice Democrats, a group which helped elect New York progressive Alexandria will cause you Cortez to Congress is all about motivation and know even told time and time again that the electable candidate is the one who can win in the electable candidate whether it's Al Gore or John Kerry, Hillary Clinton lose. That's the argument of Lisbeth Warren and Bernie Sanders help his whites details about Medicare for all increased taxes on the wealthy corporations Kratz to say just need the next president to calm things down. Make life normal again, when you say that I think that we have to ask what was broken in this country that got Donald Trump elected to begin and I think anyone who is saying in this presidential primary. All we need is business as usual. We just need in America that was like it was before Donald Trump collected is not to be able to win this election and not be able to heal the problems in this country will change, which is what this campaign is if you want modest change. Want to peek around the edges before will consider when it comes to winning over swing voters. Either Democrat or Republican, I would Democrats put all the moderates chances at above 50% or the progressives are below 50%. The song that I would urge everyone fathers to remember is Rolling Stone so you can always get what you want. Ed Rendell is the former governor of Pennsylvania and former mayor of Philadelphia.

He's endorsed Joe Biden was was the second one you can always get which will if you try sometimes you just might get what you need.

That's it. We don't need the most progressive Democrat to be present. We need someone who is progressive comparative crew that's in there now so funny thing happened is we asked the so-called moderates about their opponents.

They all wanted to claim the progressive label lecture healthcare like people to judge his Medicare for all who want which leaves private health insurance place to debate the other night here in Iowa said the bolus of the plan should not be measured by the number of people it alienates what you mean there will for example somebody characterizes my health care plan as small to remind them that this would be the biggest thing we've done to American healthcare in a half-century. So it's… It's not bold. It makes me wonder. Are you defining boldness by something other than the impact it's going to have in our lives, not how much controversy can generate online I think that maybe should build a bridge instead of glowing lineup Uniqlo Bashar some herself as a pragmatist. A lot of pundits break the race down is saying there progressives and their moderates to feel like that's a fair way of putting it. You think it's now temperament differences. I do not because I think that if you're progressive you have to make progress and I am the one that again. That brings the receipts versus some of my opponents up there in the state. I'm the one that passed over 100 bills on thank you sir Joe Biden is running hard on electability, but do you think that some of the other candidates take a more progressive stance stands may not be as appealing to liberal Republicans and independents will be able to win in November.

Look one things I reject the notion that most progressive plans. I promise you my position on climate change on healthcare on immigration on on education and track were to come to fruition. Your sons can be writing about doctors that that by the ministries will be most progressive administrations American history book. I think the first thing we have to do to win, you gotta be authentic. You gotta tell people the truth and the idea that a couple candidates will not say how much Medicare fraud cost because it's too complicated so you just about the need for health care for you start to stand up to the healthcare industry and actually here's how activists will each receive sees one of the biggest achievements of the progressive movement of the past 10 years is that whoever the nominee is will be the most progressive candidate ever nominated.

Perhaps since maybe LBJ or FDR in terms of their dedication to know record levels of government investment and promoting healthcare and jobs and tackling climate crisis, things like that.

We have an opportunity to broaden this coalition to get as many people as possible in this effort. Look, you don't have to be a diehard Democrat to see what's wrong with the trial presidency. I've always been labeled a liberal Democrat, I refuse to accept the label that the proposals I have in some other server not significantly, progressive compared to where we are.

You relabeled the sensible center I remember correctly from my childhood, when he ran for office and I was in eighth grade. Well, I wish that were true, why does a flaming liberal and are you flaming liberal no. I think I'm a traditional Democratic liberal. I think that I and I think part of dreaming big actually getting things done and I think that is where the citizens are right now. I believe that the is to shake the table. It's to look at this differently and it's to be absolutely clear about who were fighting for, and what were fighting for the end of the day.

Ed Rendell says it all comes down to one thing is wildly enthusiastic vote for president count much easier to vote for president One vote, that you got a vote of now page from our Sunday morning almanac February 2, 1925, 95 years ago today a day of lifesaving and daily say dogged determination that was the day a dog sled team in the lead entered Nome Alaska with an emergency supply. Serum child after child in the small and isolated town had fallen ill with the potentially deadly disease with ice blocking the harbor and winter weather grounding planes more than 600 mile-long dogsled relay was the only hope. On January 27. The first team of dogs set off on the rest of the nation held its breath for six long days series of dog teams battled finding lizards bitter subzero cold to get serum through more than 150 dogs and all took part in the record-breaking run.

It was Balto who led the final 53 mile stretch. I wound up getting most of the glow went on to tour the country a bona fide celebrity after maltose – 33. His remains were preserved and put on display at the Cleveland Museum of Natural History miles east, Balto continues to welcome visitors know yes accommodate about Hitler and the Nazis possibly win best picture honors when they open the envelope the Oscars next Sunday is one last night at the writers Guild awards with Tracy Smith. We explore the world of Joe Joe rabbit.

This is the neighborhood where you lived before you hit the big time for the big you just like sleeping on friends couches was calcific little judge of about 4007 directed the Ragnarok Blockbuster that meet hundred million dollars. That kind of success next move could be whatever he wanted and wanted something different.

Why did you decide to take the story of a young woman hiding from the Nazis and put slapstick comedy will do drum so YTD wrote and directed Joe Joe rabbit the story of JoJo 10-year-old boy in the Hitler youth and Elsa, a young Jewish girl and yes see you so you chaplain.

There was a whole YTD seemed a bit like Charlie Chaplin. Another writer-director who poked fun at the very unfunny subject of Germany like chaplain Corps JoJo YTD and that is YTD under all that makeup plays the great dictator himself used to say a lot of nasty things about me will disguise a lunatic look at that psycho. He's going to get us all killed and you will comedy into the serious story currently is really important is so often is meaningful because throughout history comedy as being the struggles with commenting on society and issues and dictators kings royalty being made fun of people to jokes about the drugs. Adolph is JoJo's imaginary friend nobody needs a 10-year-old vision of the Führer and awkward socially inept Hitler. If you've been wondering about his accent the 44-year-old YTD is from New Zealand self-described Polynesian Jew first of all, you're not exactly the obvious choice to play Hitler through different. What the first time that I saw take a in his Hitler costume. It was jarring. Scarlett Johansson plays Rosie JoJo's mother is a strong sense working on this project together working to get there. How did you get when Chris Chris Hemsworth for himself and Scarlett costarring asked me to write his for JoJo rabbit just sings when scripting several red and slot like YTD himself. The script was big on laughs also had heart. I just fell in love with the character of Rosie's. It's very rare to feel that way when you're reading something that you fall in love with a character like that. Just off the page.

The house is dangerous. Asked you have ancestors who died in the Holocaust. Did you have any reservations about doing a comedy about Nazis. I never thought about that. The film, as such, I think it's really very triumphant story in such a Valentine for single moms and independent women. Johansson received a best supporting actress Oscar nomination for her performance YTD of best adapted screenplay nomination and JoJo rabbit received for more nominations including best picture.

Still, not everyone is comfortable with the film just flat out say what's so funny about Nazi Germany. As you look beautiful you observed the ridiculously with Shirley low-power of the brutal calculating Elizabeth, but one way of taking power away from those people is to lose make a mockery of this is what satire is worth known for so everybody liked the not know safe you prizes and JoJo rabbit spoiled for you to make sense anymore. I cannot see and yet moments you won't see coming with the first thing you free. There was also a big surprise like I got from one of his comedy heroes like Deborah Brooks love the phone to see the Mel Brooks who directed his home Hitler comedy the producers of the soul awards season during the Scotus did this for us because it's a big thing to get recognized one of the greats and recognize for what we're trying to do in the film received some more recognition from another unexpected source to show a foundation in conjunction with USC teaching the film yeah using as part of the education to feels like the story of the film is bigger than him us before JoJo and Thor. YTD had smaller success with films like hunt for the older people in the vampire roommate documentary doing the shadows. Surprisingly, he only began to make films in his 30s.

The initial call to cover not only from Alaska. Five. The first film you did got nominated you and now he's up for more. It's an honor for sure. But of course take a YTD plant for laughs towards Oregon that many of the report of progress and crazy time once final point is when there are people in the best way to protect people is to convict final season Millstream tonight Super Bowl wins, adulation, and of course Tony to couple of CBS this morning has his eye on the prize is no fewer than eight from the courts of the U.S. Open green lawns of the PGA to the track at Belmont you need. Yes, that one.

Founded in 1837 by Charles Lewis Tiffany, the one that so thrilled Audrey Hepburn's legal lately breakfast that Tiffany also makes perhaps the most famous trophy in all of American sport. The NFL's Vince Lombardi trophy given each year to the winner of the Super Bowl to make the life-sized ball that crowns the 22 inch trophy Masters printer corpus Crystal Vasquez begins by heeding sterling silver more than 1000°F so it's soft enough to shake any spins. Spain's and Spain silversmith Rachel are day hammers out delicate designs. The ball seems technique called she's very cool and one hammer and the other using a hammer to move the metal.

I learned chasing in school, but I never take anything.

Meanwhile, Master silversmith Steve like cuts and solders based these clean the silver for polishing and final assembly. It's also his job to host the department's annual Super Bowl party. My coworkers get together and we watched ball. What will really watch the Super Bowl make all these trophies, but none of us really sportsmen's but at the end of the game when presented with trophies.

That's what will trophies do break on occasion at least lost 2018. When the Red Sox rated their trophy through the city. Someone pelted with the candidate and when the patriots throughout the opening pitch at Fenway Park last spring, Rob Gronkowski used the Lombardi trophy was like my gosh I can think but before the shiny 7 pound hunk of metal has spent months soldering breathing and coughing presented to a winning team, it must first pass through the steady hands of Harold Gaynor the lines of street Gaynor has personally engraved 15 Super Bowl trophies.

It's a child. Yes what makes it work obligate with curves because you have to adjust the height of your tool. Your coding is not like a straight cut Gaynor can engrave trophies anywhere often has to engrave the winning teams names at the last moment in the field when the pressure is on got your point breaks or something you will have no backup to do any repair work.

Close the curtains time to go home okay this I don't. You have to have confidence to do something like that.

Confidence is not something Gaynor lacks.

Not after 50 years, Tiffany fact he remembers when the Vince Lombardi trophy was first created when you first thought that you know right away that it was something special because everybody was talking about shop. It was back in 1966 when, according to legend, NFL Commissioner Pete Roselle, Oscar Ryden, head of design it.

Tiffany sketch the trophy on a cocktail napkin. It shows how spontaneous and creative. These products can be really like the sculpture. There is no guidebook on how to create successful trip is quite difficult read crack office. Tiffany's creative director, what makes a good trophy there really pieces of sculpture that have to be representative of the sport itself. They have to be iconic, memorable, and they have to somehow capture the spirit of that game. Whichever one it is so difficult Lombardi design proved so popular that soon after major league baseball created a trophy of its own for the 1967 World Series today. Tiffany makes that 1 to 30 pounds.

But as I learned recently that Tiffany's in New York merely lifting the trophy does not make a Champion insurance on the hopes got a friend that was a huge hit nearly a century ago, a song that helped make a legend of James Taylor Stella Starr on the concert circuit is most at home living the country life as I saw firsthand D and I don't sit still very well so I need to have something to occupy me, particularly if I'm trying to concentrate on some work done or something. James Taylor claims of his imagination just like kindling fire in the wood stove in his studio in Lenox, Massachusetts, regular day that I grew up in the six players as kids. James suburban childhood we were girls start anyone James Taylor is busy. Accordingly, we sort of set up in the space behind us, whether it's recording and producing his own albums list of songs that are on there was something about the actual sing of having an echo chamber or building his own. Here's the key. I think from an old shipping container. All all the hello project on my folks bought a piece of land down on Morgan Creek audio only out this week on about his early days growing up. Caroline's parents were kind of isolated out there as kids we seem to have hours of empty time fantasy could last the left. I don't think I would've become a songwriter if I have not have all of those three days to let my James Taylor was 19 when he wrote Carolina in my mind during our trip to Spain where he met a girl named Karen. This is something the first verse came to me.

See Karen's silver son walk away and watch it so watch her watch the morning, take care and I made the memoir is called break shot a lot of pool ball games start with the breakup you just smack that triangle balls and I go off in all different directions, but what that refers to is is that there was a moment in my life and my family's life and in the popular culture and we just jumped the tracks all at once. You know my father's alcoholism I think reached the peak and that happened you know that led to my my folks breaking up and I was very sensitive for a kid and was away at school, deeply unhappy and so on. I left school and went to psychiatric hospital in Boston called MacLean and spent 10 months there a turbulent time for a very young James Taylor but a remarkably creative one, pain and longing, finding its way into his song just yesterday morning, they let me know. You know, before he was 22 Suzanne nine for their brand-new label Apple seen in his second album with songs like Ray zone and Sweet baby James landed on the cover of Time magazine and that's a song came out really well so was nine versus bill in the first case, driving south see my family and my my older brothers baby and then the second half is driving on the Turnpike. There's the matter of the drug sure I'm a little concerned that you are on the road driving to North Carolina.

You probably should drive know that's probably true. I probably shouldn't the driving. Well you survive it.

You survived it all. I never saw certainly being this agent and still doing what I do at the sites that's remarkable to you know teaches that you like these days. James Taylor his two oldest children, Ben and Sally are established and Henry were sex Sunday morning live with Taylor's now applying to college and he's been happily married to Kim for nearly 2 decades and I think you about the makes a Yellow orange on another musical event on I corralled her into singing on certain friends on top little is really good. Knocked it off in an afternoon. No album is called American standard, a collection of songs.

He grew up with and still loves the songs I've known since I was a kid. All I used to listen to my parents record collection test endlessly lie on the floor, usually on a carpet look out the window look at the album cover and read about in no read through a couple of times with them just gaze at the art just listed is imprinted permanently. His and now he is only engraved on our imaginations.

All spray out on tour again.

Troubadour still loves what he does. So we all know you undeniably revitalize to have the audience react to a song that they came to hear. You know so some people love love it. Other people are so worn down forklift from the feet happened this past week. Farewell to two very different giants of television. Fred Silverman died Thursday of cancer in New York. Silverman was the only person that had programming at all three broadcast networks CBS to first place in the ratings in the early 1970s. He later accomplished a similar rating.

ABC though Silverman's magic touch failed him and NBC. He went on to find success as an independent producer was a memorial service this past Friday for veteran journalist Jim Lehrer, the former host of the PBS news hour is remembered as a calm and steady authority. I am not in the entertainment business. Jim Lehrer was a frequent moderator of presidential debates operating each time on the theory that it was the candidate, Jim Lehrer, who should be the focus of the event Jim Lehrer was 85. Patinkin plays a leading role in the television series homeland which is about to return for its final season on Showtime of Viacom, CBS channel Pro and every sense Patinkin rarely holds back as you can see in our Sunday profile from Holly Williams is friends with them in his element on this sent to homeland land for seven seasons. He's played school Berenson CIA agent in the eye of the storm please. I'm just making sure we don't get joint Patinkin on location 58 and final season of the hit series in between the 67-year-old actor re-created world espionage and politics in the Oval Office. He's life right now. He told his little dark in here, but he's about as good as it I'm not crazy about the Achilles in the knees. You know they're falling out all the rest of the phone with the wisdom and the call me what you interview that I did with my wife to listen to the intense is just like why do they even let me on the shows and and so I've tried to comfort but it's hopeless as meeting the intent in the industry. The Chicago native is known for his towering talent and performances. I wanted Tony performance visa on Broadway in 1979 and stole the show in one of his first movie will you going 120. He's wanted Grammy.

Currently it has also earned a reputation contact cost in the series. Chicago promptly left his Emmy-winning role midway through its second season showed criminal mind.

He broke his contract because he said violent content with this been quite open about being very difficult to work with when you were young, but I was very greatest moments of your life are the most difficult ones. That's the only time you learn you know you're gonna bang your head against the wall that said gift to you. So when was that when never will. And there was think because he's Mandy Patinkin. We gave him as long as he needed as the cameras rolled and we waited family activities exuberant active being very quiet.

I don't know. I'm sorry to say that there were many moments in my past moments of struggle, moments of panic moments of fear and one moment eight years ago. The show homeland came at a time after I'd left the business essentials almost. I mean, I walked away from show and broke a contract that produces his homeland decided Patinkin was taking his show has also been criticized for its portrayal. These are some of the team can ease to it, and perhaps especially the season which is being filmed in Morocco, a majority Islamic country, people of faith felt concerned about being presented as a backup.

How would I feel if every back. I was a Jew, not good training was inherently violent turn of mind to an all the writers have tried to address if you'd like to try will.

It's a tricky business. The issues today involve individual when you know that our of the Muslim faith.

Some of those people are also conservators. I'm very concerned about anybody's feelings are and I apologize to them it is not our intention. Homeland also portrays the United States with a critique ally America despises what Shari shows America very empathic light but souls still believe that America is what fighting for what is it about America that he thinks is worth fighting the possibility that they will open their arms welcome to people all over the world need a new beginning. Patinkin's grandparents needed a new beginning.

When they arrived in the US in the early 1900s. They would Jewish refugees and he worries that if they arrived today they might not be 19 RAM comebacks use the site in Yiddish sub deadlock which means the wheel is always turning so if you're on top sub deadlock. You will be on the bottom. Maybe one day back on top again your human being and human beings make mistakes and one of them right now is to forget human kindness toward those that are desperately seeking refuge, medical care, kindness, Mandy Patinkin feels passionately about Jesus that he signed up as an ambassador for the International Rescue Committee, an organization that helps people displaced by humanitarian crises. We handed out, getting steely and cheese with him and his wife during writer Catherine you're wondering how I got what ever is okay about this. Is everything about everything that's not what is your name. The couple spent three days visiting with Syrian women and children mostly dusty overcrowded refugee camp International Rescue Committee is trying to help them build new life sentence schools for children program is around five years ago when hundred teeth into you AND I just want when he went to the Syrian border to look across the frontier country torn apart by a Pilates feelings boiled right over there, bombs exploding lives are lost and people are displaced the homeless begging countries to give them a new beginning. Why is that the way this world is going.

He's role as an ambassador ease intense action and the role of school. He says has taken him to some dark places in recent when he experienced with homeland.

He wouldn't mind doing some comedy.

When this is over. If I act again. It will be something funny. Remember you can reach me at 41379604 whatever he does, he'll do it. Mandy can style all passion no pretense when I'm finished. It's like the looks on people's like suck this just goes from hundred miles an hour -0. The batteries were absolutely out of the way down, it doesn't look like it's exhausting to the impeachment trial of Pres. Donald Trump is likely to conclude on Wednesday, which prompts these thoughts from historian Douglas Brinkley. Our democracy has always been tenuous, but on most days and nights. I can feel the beauty of the power, the promise of the United States. The way the founders imagine it but with the impending acquittal of Donald Trump in the southern impeachment trial, one which disallowed witnesses and documents motion is not agreed to. My heart sunk the day of John F. Kennedy's profiles encourage at least temporarily, is over the governing Aptos of 2020 which the Republican-led Senate made good on this past week is Richard Nixon's 1977 assertion British journalist David Frost, the president doesn't means that it is not illegal help in our nation get to such a place that many citizens think the president is the king set up a servant to the Constitution. I blamed Congress on both sides of the aisle replacing the long-term integrity of the legislative branch is a lower priority than the fast Lane windfall political party self-interest bipartisan is him. As for the time being gone the way of the dodo, extinct with the White House perfecting the dark art of stonewalling Democrats, unable to accept Donald Trump is a real president. America sits at the crossroads of other governmental dysfunction I have to take some responsibility for the mess in Washington, myself today.

For example, I'm much more interested in watching the Chiefs 49ers game in the Super Bowl that Michael following the roller coaster ride of impeachment politics, both political parties today seem more interested in fighting each other and fighting for the American people. I worry that the crack on the Liberty Bell no longer represents American perseverance but is instead an omen that our union is falling apart. However, the good news since the roots of our democratic traditions are deep and we will survive this. Bad faith government. This is the proper time for all of us to recall the harrowing days of Pearl Harbor and McCarthy is the Vietnam War and Watergate and realize in the end, the United States as a deep and rich history of prevailing in times of adversity. I'm Jane Pauley.

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