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In an interview with Ben Mankiewicz Oscar-winning actor Richard Dreyfuss talks about success, failure, and his goal to become a better person. After eight grueling years of war and another eight as the first president, the George Washington returned to his beloved Mount Vernon, where his final years were filled with controversy, intrigue, and personal torment. Chip Reid reports.

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Life is for living. Let's partner for all of it. Learn more@edwardjones.com warning Jane Pauley and this is Sunday morning for the record Eagle records are very likely no longer crammed in there that overstuffed file folder there probably in a computer file thanks to a company you've likely never heard of in a place you'd probably never gas with Lee Cowan will learn all about it. In this digital age is private your medical records or electron what may be surprising is that it's largely one company software that's responsible even more surprising maybe what that company looks like and where did we think epic is done to the local economy here in the Silicon Valley of the Midwest. The epic campus epic reach of a company aptly ahead on Sunday will wear in conversation this morning with Oscar-winning actor Richard Dreyfus, Ben Mankiewicz is asking the questions, Richard Dreyfus created some of the greatest characters on film one so best part of her for accurate when he saw it in your own. I thought that I had given the worst performance history of celluloid candid conversation with Richard Dreyfus later on Sunday morning when tar will be telling you about is our first president, George Washington, in his later years to parade will be looking back after eight grueling years of war and another eight is our first president, George Washington was looking forward to a peaceful retirement at Mount Vernon didn't quite work out that way. He got anything but a peaceful retirement. His retirement was filled with controversy, intrigue and personal torment.

The father of our country's final years later on Sunday morning. Burbank takes us on a drive to Bob's red Mill sailing explains why she is not always a team player and more coming up when our Sunday morning podcast continues. Now we've been hearing about how all our medical records are going electronic. So for the record exactly does that work rather than ask your doctor ask hourly Cowan this look like the typical setting for a medical software, getting a little closer. And that's more much theme park here is anything Alice in Wonderland little workspaces here can be old railway car subway car treehouses and gingerbread houses, even if the employee cafeteria looks like a train depot told Lambert storybooks written about I walk. When light white is what abuse is the self-described intergalactic headquarters of epic in the middle of the farm fields of Wisconsin just outside Matt's never heard of this place.

Just ask Dr. because it's epic software that handles the private medical records of about 60% of the patients in this country. Probably you. One of the things that strikes me is that epic has such a big reach really impacts only people's lives in Italy. People never heard of no essence behind the scenes we haven't advertised have been put out press releases and that was Judy Faulkner is the 76-year-old genius behind a computer software engineer and admitted nerd who built this curious place in her own curious in her personality was revealed last the celebrate epic's 40th anniversary she dressed was seven well, getting them that's far out. She's a little far out to far out in front only build giant tech company from the ground up, but in the process made herself one of the richest self-made women in the world we have to compete with Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Apple, etc. a lot of acceptances this people around and say I think I like to nearly 10,000 employees epic mingle among the artwork about double the population.

Young place average age of 26 corner and Nicholas Bostrom worked in sunny Silicon Valley chose to come to wintry Wisconsin instead because they say far as big tech companies go FAQs more than just building phone me feel like we have an impact can make something accurately value about here.

I don't. I was clocking in and clocking out were not here right now it's not really doing anything, making other people be able to help in hopping. It was 1979 when the company start basement with just two employees. The goal to move patient records from overstuffed dogeared manila folders. The digital records accessible with a click of a mouse when it spent much time figuring out just how to get the computer to handle all that debt, but Faulkner always had a way with computers and she engineered a program herself. I used to like when I was a kid to play with clay and make things out of clay and I always thought of computer programming is clave mind the first time I did something that was on the screen while it's very creative decades that followed. It grew from the mundane to a system that is now integral to patient care in nearly every major US health system if ubiquity means you can now go almost anywhere to be treated and your medical records will likely follow you there.

Here's an example of what my test results look like right from here fact you check your lab results. Refill medications make appointment even share your medical records right from an epic says engineer John been so all this data was never available in the past and now you can see it on the phone paper record served us pretty well for centuries will what rats nest that in this case the patient is getting blood drawn there going to surgery. Visit there going to pain clinic there going to mammography Dr. Steve peters is a pulmonary critical care physician at the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota, is the old days I I don't want to rush back to mockups of what those old detailed paper records used to look like and how they used to trap so the records are going here records from Mayo Clinic patients used to fly around from room to room in those pneumatic to miles and miles like the arteries inside of the building. It was state-of-the-art in record-keeping at the time so it does make a certain amount of sense that the Mayo Clinic would end up today. The single biggest client about spending over $1 billion in the next several years to integrated systems. How much is this going to change things we've been keeping track of the diagnoses of the Mayo Clinic patients since before we had electronic records but the ability to have all coming from one source makes it a lot easier out good access to data you really are flying blind that the Mayo Clinic's trauma rooms now have more screens. Best Buy epics Mallory Hines Roth worked with Dr. Heather Heaton to customize a system allowed critical patient information to be displayed on the screens all at once so the data is getting monitored from the patient is on the table.

I'm going into their record in the computer and then being presented up real time data about your doctor's fingertips. Fingertips can be pretty busy, too busy, say so because of patient privacy. We can't really show you all the data. The doctors have to enter on that epic system, but some tell us it's too much if you been your doctor lately, you know, we can feel like they spend as much time entering data on a keyboard as they do on you, but Dr. Peter says, get used to it.

It's like blaming the word processor for homework assignment for student who has the right term paper.

It is where the documentation has to go. Technology is the enemy that's just the reality that's correct.

Epic is however working on a solution would free up your doctor altogether. One of the things that might be coming down the road I understand is instead of having to decant everything you might have the Alexa of medical records that is correct and how would that work the doctor would just say hey epic show me Lee's history that would come up in the end the doctor would say hey epic right my note you don't store the data but I think some people think you probably do, how do you handle the privacy concerns of all of this information is out there floating around. That is such a good question always makes sense to be a little worried, but I was at the talk once where the men giving the talk held up paper medical records since it was so easy to put white coat on walk into the chat room and pull out any records you want to walk out the Computerization is probably a safe way to do it. Not a perfect way not 100% but safer place with no stairway to heaven and an elevator to hell. There's no shortage of imagination. Epic medical records don't really sound all that fanciful, and in Judy Faulkner's mathematical mind anything seems possible. Really its technology and software development. Working together, waiting for the decoder ring to come out now page from our Sunday morning on February 23, 1836, 184 day Mexican general San Antonio arms tax and independent from Mexico, former religious mission, legendary frontiersman, Davy Crockett, among them vastly outnumbered the defenders held out for 13 days before being overwhelmed and slaughtered on March 6. Remember the Alamo immediately became the battle cry of the Texas Revolution which led to a decisive victory just a few weeks later, very friendly, and the story in the Alamo is irresistible in the 19 much respect for us today to the 2004, Billy Bob story is not without controversy. Many historians regard the decision to stand and fight a reckless one made against the orders of the principal Texan commander Sam Houston still and 2018. The Texas State Board of Education rejected calls from educators and historians wanted to change school textbooks which referred to the Alamo defenders as heroic as heroic or foolhardy story of the Alamo attracts more than one half million visitors every year. Remember the Alamo in the milepost by which to remember last week change of struggling lingerie retailer Victoria's Secret L brands. The company that owns the chain announced its selling controlling interest to a private equity firm $525 million signing ship last year to the long-running TV fashion show and retail sales have been in a slump as well. The brand is embedded in the past analyst Neil Saunders told the Associated Press. It was always about feeling good. It should be about making women feel good about themselves. Mel Aguilar again is our destinations morning, home, office of a man whose success is all about starting over Luke Burbank is at the wheel.

If you stroll down the aisle of a grocery store recently, you've probably seen him staring down from a bag of flour with his white beard trademark hat and slightly quizzical look.

It's the face of Bob Moore, founder of Bob's red mill when people say when they come up to you like ghetto. I got your picture in my covert. Oh, I know there really is a Bob and the other thing is not. Not only is not dead, but at age 91 E. thriving Bob Moore is an unexpected celebrity in the whole natural and organic industry. My life, I would've started way early, really yeah I mean I started in the middle of my life. More was in his 50s in Southern California working at gas stations and auto centers when on a whim.

He walked into a library and picked up a book that would change the course of his life still read this about three times a year. The book John Goff's mill tells the story of a man who, without any prior experience purchases and rebuild an old grain mill. It inspired more to do the same. Had the thought of running any kind of a milling operator ever crossed your mind. There is crazy, crazy idea that eventually led Moore to Milwaukee, Oregon where in 1978, he and his late wife Charlie set up Bob's red mill stone grown. That's the only way flowers and cereals are grounded myself. More than 40 years later, the company has come a long way grinding out more than 400 products that are sold in more than 80 countries. Now you need to stir that okay but if there's a signature product that Bob makes a sort of favorite child, it would have to be his oatmeal. How many years have you been eating this for breakfast for all. My mother fixes 90 years, give or take. You not tired of it. You don't get tired, good food, mix in some simple healthy ingredients, you know, flaxseed banana but have at the way this is mill and it turns out you've got a recipe for success go all right. You know why my Frasers tears. I think you should like this that has so much flavor and it mean for something that is made of relatively simple components of love that healthy start to the day might have been why we had a hard time putting up with Bob Moore, bathwater took us on a tour of his factory all over the years would be buyers of his company. Some online estimate put the company's worth $100 million.

Bob staying mom know what your business is worth.

The other reason cell because he's actually giving the company away to his 500+ employees. I was able to make it through college that Bob really cares about employees like Dave guider Lucy Reyes and Keith Showalter, who, based on how long they've worked here are all now part owners of the company you ever tell people that you know and I would just 00000 review would be accurate if he said he may need. So now you know the story behind the face on the back.

It's the story of a man with a mill and a mission spread good food. Turns out Bob Moore really is someone who cares when you get right down to it, I really like.

I don't want to do anything manual progress and crazy time once final point is we need people in the best way to protect people's final season Millstream exclusively on dog is having his or her day. Thanks to a special bond with the bighearted boy Steve Hartman has been watching in action eight-year-old Robbie J loves an underdog bring them to the Flagler County Humane Society in Palm Coast, Florida, as we did and asked him to find a favorite will seek out the old manges least adoptable. What about Frank, do you see yourself in these dogs.

He knows what it feels like not wanting care for, helpful, optimistic and genuine caring head who has absolutely no reason to be that way.

Robbie's adoptive mom says before he under the foster system. Robbie was a holy terror so badly abused. He was twice hospitalized with brain injuries, then two years ago Maria and her husband Charles adopted all that they mean to you. Everything he has come a long way, except in this one respect. Maria says he could not cry, despite the horrors of his past, or maybe because of the. The kid was a stone until earlier this month. One of Robbie's old dogs. Buffy had to be put down. He wanted to hold her till the very end and insisted his mom take pictures of the process, perhaps because he knew what was about to happen after Robbie finally let go. He told his mom.

I know how it feels not to be loved or cared for and I don't want any animal of mine to feel that way, nor does he want any foster kid to feel that way on our people on our now copies he is so aware that it could have gone totally differently for him and these older dogs found a place to practice compassion. Someday Robbie wants to adopt foster children himself. Not on the dock, but to show his commitment and do what he can.

He has vowed to adopt as many old dogs as his parents will allow lower today.

It's a lame snaggle toothed ship named Molly Molly's owner had to go into assisted living but now Molly has a new home thanks to the sweet little boy who sees his reflection in the eyes of the suffering a lion in Winter is one way of describing the later years of George Washington, who was 288th birthday was yesterday a marked contrast after the historic accomplishments that came before. As we hear now from our chip read through eight grueling years of the Revolutionary war and another eight as the first president of the United States George Washington was sustained by a dream of the day when he would return to Mount Vernon's beloved plantation high above the Potomac River where it 65 years old. He aspired to a peaceful retirement as a farmer, but that's not quite how it turned out he got anything but a peaceful retirement. His retirement was filled with controversy, intrigue and personal torment Jonathan Horn is the author of Washington's and the final years and forgotten struggle published by Scribner a part of Viacom, CBS.

The book begins where most Washington biographies and as he rode off into the sunset, but at Mount Vernon. He quickly became restless or in comparison to a life in a cage. He was waiting for news from the capital of Philadelphia and here's where he be pacing back and forth we can go for miles on this Piazza.

The year was 1798 friends was attacking American ships at sea and war with the former ally seemed imminent.

Washington was named commander-in-chief of the new army even though according to the Constitution that belonged to Pres. John Adams. Even so, Washington accepted the position just over a year after stepping down as president he was back in Philadelphia so he just couldn't let go. It was really hard like he had created this country. This country is his legacy.

He's worried about what's gonna happen to it is prized reputation took a beating as enemies putting former friends, Jefferson Monroe and Madison condemned him acting like a king that she dispel the idea that all of our founding fathers were good friends in a remarkable parallel to today's politics.

Washington's Federalist party accused France of meddling in the presidential election.

At the request of Jefferson and his fellow Republicans the so-called quasi-war with France soon cooled off and Washington returned to Mount Vernon.

Though he was just 66 years old. He was plagued with a series of torments including his health. As Warren writes, his hands are not as steady as they once were.

His back. Stoops's hearing has weakened but not so much that he does not hear the whispers about his senility.

His memory always bad has become worse. His vision has declined, but perhaps worst of all his teeth were gone, replaced by dentures not made of wood is the old story goes, but of ivory animal teeth and human teeth, possibly from enslaved people. He own.

It's no wonder Washington rarely smiled. What was his relationship like with Martha Washington in these final year at this time in his life hell tell you that marriage is the great joy of life, but he and Martha were raising two grandchildren from her first marriage and even the father of the country struggled to keep up with the demands of parenthood. He's constantly disappointed by Martha's grandson George Washington Parke Custis. He keeps dropping out of school. The boy promises to do better never actually does this wait is good relationship with Martha. He still appeared to have strong feelings for Sally Fairfax married woman he had loved in his youth. We know that because he wrote a letter to Sally Fairfax a set all the things he had done in his life since then had not thought of as much joy as the time he spent with Sally Fairfax as a young man, other family secrets may be lost forever because tragically for historians. Martha burned almost all of their letters to protect their privacy. What did this place Mount Vernon mean to George Washington. This was all for it was a sanctuary. Doug Bradburn, president and CEO of Mount Vernon says despite all the challenges Washington did fulfill some of his dreams. Here he became a pioneer of modern farming experimenting with seeds and fertilizers, and he built one of the nation's largest whiskey distillery's so where are we now, this is Washington study.

This study yes I like to call it as man came from and this is very loved to do his work. Massive correspondence corresponding people all the world successful as he was. It's important to note Washington never would have done well is a farmer and businessman without the 300+ enslaved people who toiled at Mount Vernon. Bradburn says that during the war.

Washington's views on slavery changed in part due to the heroism of black soldiers.

He hopes there some way that legislation will be passed to end slavery, but his actions sometimes contradicted his words. According to Horne's book Washington said that getting work out of his sleeves, sometimes required a little of the overseers with. He remained a slave owner until his death, George and Martha Washington's bedchamber here is this where he actually died.

This is where he died.

This is the actual bedstead that he died in, and sadly what a grim death.

It was from a throat infection easily cured today with antibiotics is doctors repeatedly bled him practice at the time of about 5 pints of blood which only made him weaker and basically suffocated to death father of our country and suffocated to death. It's a brutal way to bed when dressed in fine clothes, and surrounded by family doctors and slaves. His last words were simply as well. Washington was 67 years old he went out and that sort of stoical fashion that he wanted to project any new people would be telling this story for centuries and so he wanted to do it in stock. George Washington let go of life like he let go of political power.

Brief one on his sleep every morning chanting and burning incense and walk around and appreciate a little tiptoeing also sleep in the new. It's Sunday morning on CBS and here again is Jane probably Richard Dreyfus Bumstead bearing all in his Oscar-winning performance opposite Marsha Mason in the movie the goodbye girl so how revealing will he be in conversation with our men in Hollywood, Ben Mankiewicz, let's find out. Because we know each other. I think you likely I think.

Not sure we have many accomplishments to talk about.

I would like to start out with failure. That's the way I usually start producers in London. Yes, so it's 2004 Richard Dreyfus had signed on to the Millbrook musical the producers in London's West End when Mel Brooks had called me and asked me to do it. I had said Mel.

I don't dance and I don't sing and he said oh, who cares your funny six days before the first preview audience.

I was fired because I didn't dance and I didn't sing pickup. What is mostly a lifetime of success. After a brief one line debuting in 1967 graduate, you might say Richard Dreyfus's career was on fire. By 1973 George Lucas directed him in American graffiti, along with two other big names leaving in the morning I Ron Howard Harrison you know and then Spielberg called me and called me and said I want to meet you about yours, don't read the book. To this day I've never read the book. That's a good an actor I am with directors in what you have any preconceived notions of how the character should and he told me the story was exciting.

He said you want to do it. Ice went well. He said why and I said because I'd rather watch this movie than shoot it because I'm an idiot. There's really no other explanation pretty stupid when it comes to certain things after turning Spielberg down. Dreyfus landed what he thought was the best part ever written for an actor his age.

The apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz. The best part ever fracture your rate wetly sought than your own.

I thought that I had to given the worst performance history of celluloid and after watching himself on screen as Duddy Spielberg shark movie was suddenly far more appealing that you reverse your decision of saying no to jaws and suggest yes I turn it down twice I saw the Kravitz. I called Steven and begged for the part you were terrified that Duddy would enter so we got on Spielberg's book, and while they were still filming. Joe lobbying for the lead in Spielberg's next big film close encounters of the third, I decided that I would badmouthing every actor ever born that could possibly play that role and I did those actors were Janeiro, Pacino, you know, I said great. I would just walk by no one day I said Stephen you need a child and he looked up and said you got the part.

I envy close encounters was a game changer in Hollywood, but Richard Dreyfus. The other film he made in 1977 would be even bigger is open I am decent in the morning screen at habitation of a Neil Simon, I am decent. I also have to be naked. One morning a friend of mine calls and says did you hear that Bobby De Niro got fire this morning. This is the movie he did right after tax and Mike Nichols was directing folk I slept. I don't think long story short, Bogart's left ear became Kelly.

I am praying to God.

This is all you are more night dress casual chemistry cream Dreyfus and Marsha Mason, Simon one over the audience and impressed Oster for an Academy award. I promise you will keep my think what is it about you that makes a man with 147 I know my agent called and said you've been nominated for the goodbye girl I went wow and then I said who else is nominated. Woody Allen, John Travolta, Marcello Mastroianni and Richard Burton and I went on to win and my agent went right and I said when John Travolta was to suit the question Richard Burton had just passed if he had been nominated the year before they would've given it to him in a second and we all would've stood up and given him a standing ovation. No one was ever going to give Marcello muster honey best actor and no one was going to give Woody Allen best actor because it was the year of Annie Hall going everything, screenplay director, so I said I'm new impresses me most about have all this success 7378 and get a substance abuse problem and you get the famous one because your famous government that right. I imagine incredibly difficult process. I could tell you all kinds of things that you don't have time for, but I decided to be a better person and I think that that's a legitimate goal and I like that about me that includes forgiveness. Bob, your behavior is completely Dreyfus is publicly told a story about a longtime beef with Bill Murray again on the set of 1991's. What about when Dreyfus says that Murray drunk through an ashtray. Dreyfus is missed just now Dreyfus has stopped telling that story and he says he's ready to forgive. I haven't done it with Bill and I will never cross paths one day I will write a note saying is far as I'm concerned it's over. Dreyfus is 72 now living in San Diego, you can still see them in upcoming movies but you'll never see is after him on display in his house. I literally walked into your house or the room looked at the wall and said the producer or their work where there is great the Academy award for best actor for 1977 is having is also hold anything he's freezing help put them back where he goes right next to the orange juice, smoke after a career facing down sharks aliens in his own demons. Richard Dreyfus has somehow managed to stay cool back to our own time and currently popular buzzword that has faith say late teaming with annoyance. Your help unpacking and down on a work that's getting something indiscriminate use word is team team at work, you get emails that start with team and hear people say. By 19 team exactly defined as the number of persons associated in some joint action. It's also two or more animals harnessed together to draw a vehicle which part of life object to being called team a little nonconsensual if you just told John the team did you sign up to try redraft just like an ox.

I in team, but there is a me so sure about BOSS or leader is corporate America would prefer you to say her to call the people who work for you team rather than calling them staff for direct reports or minions colleagues is formal folk sounds folksy, keeps squad all all 14 plot leaders who want to be collegial and voluntary and that word can be self-serving enrolls your current workers but plausible deniability team makes everyone responsible and useful to postpone making decisions or deliver bad news when you can blame it on the team. We back away altogether from the sports metaphor, with hair and makeup team today. This is what I look like before a great crew.

Son know when you work here. You get to call it son mouth team in Sunday morning – if we get ourselves team. We get so much more done like we need more Sundays every week just air all our shelves to be on the team. We received a belated valentine from viewer Marcy Mylan's of Morgantown, West Virginia photo album.

Thank you. She says for.

In her words, producing such a high quality program. She sent along heartfelt best wishes for Tracy Martha Serena Mo even Bill Guist gracious. She has me in there as well, along with my two predecessors Charles and Charles happy Valentine's Day to you too Marcy. I remember Lee Cowans visit a few weeks back to the firehouse theater in Kingston, Washington, which film bath Craig Smith has been operating on a shoestring weave word that his go fund me page has received more than $213,000 in small donations from some 5000 of you movie lovers saving the theater and keeping the projector and popcorn Popper on I'm Jane Pauley. Thank you for listening and please join us again next Sunday morning, it's me Drew Barrymore all my goodness, I want to tell you about our new shout to his knees, and in each episode mean weekly gas and cover other quirky find inspiring and informative stories that exist on the ball because well I and maybe you do to friends. The newest interior design trend Barbie car to the right and wrong way to wash her arm us out working to get into things that you just kind of well probably not able to do in daytime television.

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