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He says offer a lifeline to those in need was in a bold active presidential leadership or a troubling violation of the limits of power Ted Koppel will report our cover story we have done a job the likes of which nobody said we learn to take some of the principal concerns with a grain of salt.

It's going to disappear one day is like a miracle, it will disappear when users lose, I can do seriously have the right to do. A lot of people don't even know very seriously, thank you over on Sunday morning that were off on a musical journey to the place they call the mother church of country music with Marx Treisman we visit the theater that made the grand old Opry and American treasure. What makes natural sublime and notorious hello rock, we are singer-songwriter show Crow something that is bigger than just there's a different mojo here. Your first date and I think or awful thing on a date country music mother church coming up on some in this time of quarantines and social distancing. Many of us are struggling for some sense of normalcy. Lee Cowan introduces us to a growing group of people living life in a bubble. George like the NBA player inside the protective wear single player positive for over 19 uniform. So far so good is what I was to some include extended family. My husband is driving me crazy or vice versa. I have somebody else that I can talk to bigger our bubbles better on Sunday morning. Nancy Giles has a history of one of the very cool things about summer popsicles.

David Martin looks back on the disastrous attempt to rescue Americans from captivity in Iran 40 years ago. John Dickerson looks ahead to this week's most unconventional Democratic convention plus Aaron Moriarty on the challenge of counting votes in a pandemic, and Steve Hartman is back Sunday morning 16 August 2020 and will be back in a moment, the president of the United States is often called the most powerful person on earth, but where do those powers begin and end the question for Senior contributor Ted Koppel to consider the power of the president is in no is not bashful in describing powers that go well beyond simple declaration. She authority is total and that there are truly some restraints on most presidential authority might not apply to all the presidents powers to write to a lot of people don't even know about. We can't know for sure what the president appears to been referring to our presidential emergency action documents often referred to as Formosa of the Gary Hart security clearances for years and national security matters during that half-century I had never heard of the secret powers you know what they are, know that you've heard of to research done at the Brennan Center for Justice Law school, the secret powers are apparently based on the research is suspension of the Constitution.

Basically that's what's more critically on the national election essentially that our worst case in areas the Brennan Center research that some of the heart, referred to as brings.

Goodbye Elizabeth going to the codirector of its national security program and contributing writer that the client several times during his version.

Pres. Trump allusions to secret powers that he has.

We don't know making that up. You know what those might be because they are often going to use is what we do know about appearance comes from references to them in all the documents some of which are now declassified for extended address as well. No action documents ever released for me.

My access to just really pretty extraordinary when you can say that even the most highly classified over its operations, members of Congress does not consult with Congress exactly documents and public sources. We know these documents that are not committed by the Constitution. Things like martial law and the suspension around people not crying. The reason these documents are secret is for a lot of ministrations people in power not want to frighten the American people or straight.

What might happen to their constitutional rights and keep going and you're saying what therefore will this frustration, including predicate ministrations is revised and updated.

These powers, and I started contacting friends of mine of both parties who have been in senior positions, and I got two responses or one response which is I never heard of these powers and these are people in senior sessions or I got no response at all and it was no response at all from people I knew that began to worry me because there are not only has secrecy around these powers, there is a missed around the secrecy. Tell me what you know about these periods. I think I knows much about any other American citizen, which is almost nothing at all. David Cole is national legal director of the American Civil Liberties Union and he's concerned about the vast array of presidential emergency powers that we know about national emergencies act of 1976 alone, the president can declare a national emergency just by signing a proclamation. We've got a president who is first week in office essentially declared an emergency to ban Muslims from coming into the country. More recently, declared widely understood in order to build order wall when Congress told him they would not give him the funds to crater Boardwalk and most recently has declared that he may need to delay the election which would be an emergency authority concert which brings us back to those mysterious presidential emergency action documents tell me about those girls. She'll be the only person I have met so far who will even admit to knowing what the hell they are having some just really John you is a law professor at the University of California at Berkeley while serving at the Justice Department after 9/11, he drafted the memo that justified the use of enhanced interrogation of terrorism suspect just to reassure her of yours a little bit drunk. You've seen these peons have not allowed to say, however not let me put it this where you were at the Justice Department, presumably the Justice Department would've had to deal with these periods of president wanted to implement one. Yes, that's the fairest of the Justice Department office I worked in would review the legality of the key ads because they were drawn presidential powers and Congressional powers delegated to them just a couple of weeks ago. Prof. you was at the White House discussing executive power with Pres. because you never know what the emergencies can be said is yes and similar contingency planning documents. We look back historically at them. Sometimes they seem comic notion that there are executive powers based on something that is never been invented by Congress giving the president almost limitless powers to do what he needs to do in the event of a crisis that's not funny that scary to me. This whole question is, you're right had their stinkers to that seen in our history where presidents have gone too far. I guess there's a balance I guess the founders the balance in favor of giving the president that kind of ability to face emergencies even understanding that a badly attention president might abuse those powers so the station with these documents and eat. That's why the framers created the presidency was because it could act quickly. I would want Pres. Obama or Pres. Biden to have the power to respond quickly to a hurricane or terse attack. Just as I would want Pres. Trump to that's fairly benign, but what what the president was planning to do was suspension of habeas corpus. I would you feel about I be the first to admit that it emergencies that executive branch can make mistakes and that sometimes the price of swift action Congress is more likely to get things right.

The founders thought that but Congress is too large and too slow to act decisively. Having said that, Prof.

You would be comfortable giving a few select members of Congress classified access to the secret.

Gary Hart doesn't think that goes far enough public because they affect freedom and liberty and rights of every American. I can't say it any better.

This is a blueprint for dictatorship. I think the more attention it gets, the less likely those in power are going to use. We have so much publicity is we have so many different voices being raised in anger and outrage in fury. I'm not sure what a few more voices raising an issue like this. What impact that's going to. This goes to the core of our country and our founding, and if there is what amounts to the capability to suspend our Constitution. That's not just another issue that's serious to unleash the full power of the federal government that this effort. Today I am officially declaring a national emergency, very big words for current incumbent president has declared seven national and stated that he has more power than most people know about you find that frightening. I will not reverse the question. This is intelligence matters with former acting director of the CIA.

Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states put our mind to something, we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and purely as our strategic situation or situations not being matched up follow.

Intelligence matters where ever you get your podcasts or sampling of summer something very cool. Nancy Giles does the honors in your summer day doesn't like the original popsicle sprang from the mind-year-old boy named Mike Epperson back in 1905 usually cold San Francisco night some kind mix glass and for experimental reasons. He decided to leave it out on the porch overnight. Kathleen Epperson is Frank's granddaughter the morning when he came out it was frozen solid and 70 and that the beginning of the optical he would have to grow up before he did the idea, yes, the popsicle had a patent in 1924 he called it sickle Epperson because it looked like an icicle but his four-year-old son George came up with a Tear name and put his arms around his father's like anything hot Frank to give popsicles to San Francisco's Coney Island going and asking after several weeks of different kids asking for my grandpa say can I interest you in selling. Yes then the Great Depression hit, and he was forced to sell all his rights for $50,000, but I can tell you that we made 2 billion per year. Russell Lily is a senior marketing director at Unilever parent company of good humor Breyers which is the latest company to make popsicles here one of your magical pop pop discontinue cool it's return championed by the likes of Justin Bieber. I want to thank you and creative folks are still being inspired by Frank Epperson's original idea. So the need for talent I need and his wife Sally created Island Pops in Crown Heights, Brooklyn five years ago.

Everything that we do with Han made a small batch law when based on memories that we have acquired bring up both came from Trinidad and it was Shelley's craving for the flavors of her homeland that inspired them to open this family business need for the island experience. I think the city you know I like vacation in a spot on. Take away all vacation these days we'll music and expression. Keep on trucking takes on new meaning when you meet the fellow are Steve Hartman has been spending time with high on the list of things I never thought I'd see this address turns 97 next week still marching across America every step of the way I first met six years ago he was in the middle of the Arizona desert. Trying to become the oldest person to ever run coast-to-coast later actually made, then turn around and start running the other way is now year into the return trip caught up with them outside left in Texas plodding along slow and steady as usual, albeit slightly slower better hang on notice last day a few weeks ago, a doctor diagnosed with congestive heart told me that he seven pacemakers think that's just all a sales pitch. There's a chance he could be telling you the truth Ernie does that change anything now is much of his motivation to soldier on comes from his sailor past were to be served on a ship called an LST running to raise money for the LST Memorial in Evansville, Indiana shouldn't be forgotten ship that won the war. This run is also taken on a more personal purpose. Thousands of joined him for at least the leg of the journey. Listen to stories celebrated his fortitude.

Given the key to a long life desire. Keep pressing that's why was Dr. says time is short. You still planning to reach the Pacific sometime around his hundred first birthday, so they make it to California. Then you stop running I have a plan for coast-to-coast optimistic now streaming progress and crazy time once final point is when people in the best way to protect final season Millstream