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David Pogue looks at how extreme weather events are bringing the issue of climate change home to more and more Americans. Erin Moriarty examines the key voting bloc of suburban women in battleground states. Nick Whitaker talks with Black Lives Matter co-founder Alicia Garza. Ben Mankiewicz checks in with actor Elliott Gould. John Dickerson discusses the perils of polls, and Tracy Smith discovers longtime Van Halen frontman David Lee Roth’s new passion: Japanese ink painting.

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Learn more@edwardjones.com I'm jingling and this is Sunday morning wildfires and hurricanes this season have once again put the issue of climate change front and center in the presidential campaign and the national conversation and with the year we've been having. The experts are saying it's time to get worried. Really worried David Pogue will report our cover story in case there was any doubt 2020 has offered some pretty good evidence that the climate is changing. Always put climate change on the back burner, something we can do it later, but out of time 20/20 has also offered some tiny signs of hope in one generation would take apart from basic stability to the brink of catastrophe, but it's also kind of exhilarating means that we are the authors of our faith. Climate change and update coming up on Sunday morning, Christopher Cross is a singer-songwriter with some of music's most memorable hits to his credit, but as he'll explain to Serena all actual for him this year has been anything but smooth sailing. Christopher cost is a five-time Grammy award winner this year is also something else. What were some of the things you were saying to yourself in those darkest moments. I can tell you that I had a few conversations with whoever he or she is just saying you know if you could just get me out here. I will be a better person. Christopher Cross is a long recovery from Cove Ed later on Sunday morning wherein conversation this morning with Elliott Gould, the Oscar-nominated actor who has always done things his own way is our Ben Mankiewicz discovers what you got against Terry Bennett. There are character actors. Then there are characters where you from I'm from Brooklyn, New York was conceived and for my next question was where were you conceived Gould big hearts and big breakups. What ended the marriage with Barb because she became more important than us ahead on Sunday morning. Mark talks to Alecia Garza, who coined the rallying cry black lives matter plus stories from Faith Salie and John Dickerson on politics Sunday morning 18 October 2020 and will be back one wildfire after another hurricane season for the record books. Cause for concern, says our David Pogue reports our cover story believe the virus originated here at the large Wuhan seafood and animal market. CDC is on guard experts worry could become a pandemic 2020 has been a year of nonstop. Crazies virus has infected Wall Street some more masks as protection from one epidemic demanding an end to another. While there was almost possible to get an ongoing crisis used to have our attention. Climate change parts of Newport Beach are flooded tonight, but nature found a way to remind us in the Midwest punishing 100 mile an hour winds in the Southwest of brutal succession of floods and droughts on the coasts is bearing down on the Gulf Coast. A freakish number devastating hurricanes and in our Western states. The combination of the high heat and dry brush makes for explosive fires historic mega fires sent a plume of ash and smoke all the way to the East Coast. More than 4 million acres burned in California alone is put that into perspective that is larger than the state of Connecticut and the fires are still burning Jeep Daniel Berlin is an assistant deputy director for Cal fire, the California Department of forestry and fire protection are climate here in California has been changing now for decades. In fact, this year's fire seasons are on average 75 days longer than they were in the 70s.

Where are we in the fire season right now this surefire season will likely just roll right into 2021, so this ain't over yet. There is no way to cite the last 20 years we've experienced twice the number of weather disasters as we did in the previous 20 years. The cost so far about $3 million.

Yes, climate change is back in the headlines always put climate change on the back burner, something we can do it later, but out of time. There is no later. We need to deal with it now. I was with Johnson is a marine biologist policy expert, and coeditor of all we can say a book of essays by women climate years. I asked her for climate change refresher we burn fossil fuels. All these greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide, methane, and they create this layer of gases.

It's basically like a blanket on top of that blanket traps heat from the sun that would've bounced back out into space of the green aspect as most people like don't spend a lot of time in greenhouses I think should be called the dog in the car in summer effect totally is that the same thing. The sun comes into the car, it doesn't fully bounce out so the car gets really hot inside that's a much better analogy the planet is now warmer than the entire history of human civilization. It's like we've landed on a new planet with a new set of climate conditions. We have to figure out what of the civilization that we brought with us to this point can survive these conditions. David Wallace Wells is the deputy editor of New York magazine and the author of the uninhabitable earth book that explores what will happen if we don't cut our carbon emissions soon he says is not just about warmer weather changes the whole system rainstorms and more intense the oceans are hitting up, which means that hurricanes are to become more intense and more frequent as are the extreme droughts as well as extreme rainfalls is just a kind of a scrambling of what had been a very stable system on which we erected all of human civilization and is not just unstable weather is unstable us agricultural yields can fall by half or more over the course of a century of change course.

It affects respiratory illnesses cancer affects cognitive performance development of children. If you been paying attention.

This is new. What is new is the public opinion about the climate crisis is finally when you see these headlines. 70% of Americans are now at least mildly curious.

Something to brag about it still seems really low to me to me something like 70 or 75% of the country, expressing concern about an issue seems really high.

We live in an incredibly polarized world where most of these issues. If you can nudge your past 50% you're doing incredibly well. So what took us so long to become alarmed until quite recently people can see the effects in their lives. I think almost no one now can look at our TV screens and think to themselves.

Climate change is a real, the federal government has done virtually nothing about climate change in the last few years, but in many ways the country is marched right ahead anyway. The mayors of 438 cities, the governors of 25 states and 700 universities committed to cutting their emissions mostly in line with the Paris agreement that the 2016 international commitment to limit the earth's heating up to 3.6°F or less.

In the next 80 years. About a thousand major corporations have pledged to cut their emissions to Paris agreement levels to and why would corporations go green because of public pressure investor pressure and employee pressure technology has been marching onto for example, these babies direct air capture machine huge fans that extract carbon dioxide back out of the air. From there the plan is to store it underground turned into fuels or building materials or even sell it to carbonated drink companies that can take carbon cost of about $100 a ton. That's much more expensive than it would cost about the carbon up there the first place. This process will probably fall further.

11 of these plants are already operating as pilot projects.

You don't want to use this to solve the whole problem because, among other things, it would mean essentially barnacle in the whole planet with plantations of carbon capture machines, but I do think that there is a role for carbon capture whatever steps we take will have to take them fairly. Research shows that extreme weather hit hardest in low income areas in communities of color. It people in low-lying areas people near water fence unprotected, but also people who don't have the resources to leave everyone in Hurricane Katrina who is trying to get out of New Orleans didn't have cars. It's often a privilege to get to leave for a star all over the world were building some of the most expensive public works projects in human history defenses against rising sea levels and flooding from intense rains and New York New York is so valuable that were going to have to protect it and so there are variety of plans that are already in place but are also much more ambitious plans that haven't yet gotten green lit to enclose the entire harbor in a single that would cost hundreds of billions of dollars. So there's some good news for people talking about the climate crisis.

What countries are doing something about it. Even China and last year for the first time the price of clean renewable energy fell below the price of burning coal on the other hand, were getting started far too late. I asked David Wallace Wells, the latest developments give him any hope. So if you're hoping to preserve the planet of our grandparents. There is no reason for your hoping to preserve the climate as we know it today. There's really no reason for hope there either but I think that the worst-case scenarios are getting considerably less likely because a lot of this action has taken place.

A lot of clinical momentum that were seen in the midst of the sixth mass extinction just like I was with Johnson are more skeptical. I don't really think of myself as an optimist, but as a real asked so much of this change is already beaten things are are really tire.

I'm also not giving up. And honestly, like who are we to get up. We have to try black lives matter.

Those words describe the movement, and behind them a woman contributor Mark Whitaker introduces us to Alecia Garza this summer. The black lives matter movement took center stage from global protests to remain positive in Washington DC to murals adorning neighborhood route the country last month. The movements founders Patrice colors Opal to Mattie and Alecia Garza found themselves on the cover of Time magazine. My hope in helping to put this forward at wasn't to start a movement. Alecia Garza coined the phrase black lives matter. My hope was to actually change people's minds change the way that we see ourselves so that we can stand on in a stronger footing to be able to change the things that we don't like that are happening around us. We met the Oakland-based activists at Marcus books the country's oldest black bookstore to discuss Garza soon to be released book, I wanted to make sure that we were in a place that really represents the legacy and the enduring tradition of black organizing and black resistance. The purpose of power is Garza's own story of black organizing and black resistance will many might remember first hearing the phrase black lives matter during the 2014 protests. Ferguson was early actually began a year earlier. The day George Zimmerman was found not guilty of murdering 17-year-old trave on Martin in Florida after the vertex announcement a stone Garza penned several Facebook posts without the phrase was that just something that came pouring out. Well let me just say I'm not a big twitter users. So when I first use the words black lives matter was on Facebook Patrice colors Los Angeles-based activist was twitter savvy added a hashtag. I thought it was a #scene from down the hashtag starts me that's how the lives matter was born, now called the hashtag heard round the world black lives matter is a worldwide phenomenon traces her own path activism to her mother and her upbringing during the 1980s and 90s, an affluent suburb of San Francisco, where she says being an outsider gave her a unique vantage point.

I grew up with the ethos that you always fight for the underdog.

No black folks forever had been working hard to get ahead, but that this country wasn't working hard for black people and didn't plan to also credits MTV news for broadening her perspective with stories about the apartheid system in South Africa. Finally, dismantling the race a system of apartheid famine in Ethiopia and domestic politics. This was a time when there was a big debate happening nationally about the epidemic of teen pregnancy, and there was a big fight over whether or not young people should have the tools that they needed to make decisions as they were making choices about whether first cause is when you were still in I was 12 years old I was in middle school.

In her book cars are parents of formative moment at age 17, running with a police officer who found her smoking marijuana with a friend and let her off with only a warning. I was a kid who was doing things that kids do. And I was given a shot. Most black kids who are my age at that time are not given a shot and guaranteed. If I had been a 17-year-old black girl in West Oakland caught with the same amount of marijuana I would've spent not just the night, but I would've had a criminal record.

The take away from this encounter resonates with Garza today. I think the moral of that story is this. We have a criminal system that is intent on treating some people differently than others actually baked into the architecture of that system and what this movement is fighting for it is to frankly dismantle a system that was designed to criminalize black people that was designed to criminalize poor people and people of color and other oppressed people. So when you use the term dismantle. I think some people are confused right now about exactly what that means it doesn't mean dismantling a certain kind of policing in certain communities. What do you want dismantle. I didn't talk about dismantling police. I talked about dismantling systems. So when we talk about dismantling systems that are harmful to our communities. It means taking them apart and stopping our usage of them. We can't just dismantle without building something in its place and I think what's important for all of us to engage in is a reimagining of what it looks like to have dignified communities where we are not patrolling communities with guns and tanks. Alecia Garza is now focusing your efforts beyond black lives matter found in groups aimed at empowering women in building black political power and so what you tell people when is unsure they do on a daily basis why folks say what can we do to help. Well I say you can join a movement sample being in solidarity with black lives matter being a part of this larger movement for change in this country and around the world can't be about charity. I don't want to fight next to anybody who's hike you know I'm doing this because you people need this for those who think black lives matter is merely a social media movement, Alecia Garza offers this, the story of movements is not about how many people follow you on social media, it's about how many people will step forward and you can have a million followers on twitter and not get one person to step forward and take action so as a leader or the founder of one of the most famous social media movements of the modern era telling us that social media isn't everything.

Well I can tell you as the founder of the black lives matter global network which is now considered to be the largest protest movement in history that hashtags do not start movements.

People do the baseball season is entering its final innings, but Steve Hartman has found a promising rookie whose career has barely begun a couple weeks ago Brian Robinson and the son Carter.

This batting cage in Montgomery, Alabama, when a random stranger drove a high hardwood to the heart. There was a bucket of balls with a note.

The note read. Hope someone can use some of these baseballs I pitch them to my son and grandson for countless rounds. The writer went on to say that his family is now grown and gone. What he wouldn't give depict a couple buckets of them. If you are father cherish these times Brian and his wife Stormie read that note, with tears in their eyes.

If I can moment for still does, we need to send Kenmore Avenue, our kids in town with our kids. Just the message the author intended. I was just hoping it would inspire some people.

Randy Long used to love watching and coaching his kids, so much so that when he came across that old bucket of balls in his garage.

He couldn't bring himself to just throw away the memories.

He says he needed closure. It was like a goodbye wasn't yet hoping he was the final final thought thing you okay you chapter go will see what else you would, but unbeknownst to Randy his baseball days were headed extra and it works as well. Just recently met up with Rob and learned about a void in Carter's life. The boy lost both his grandfathers at a very young age. They never saw him play. Randy said he definitely be at the Medscape then asked Carter for little catch what were headed swallow" or brilliant burglaries seems now I don't stay top with the field of dreams. I'm sure a lot of people across the country now realize enough not just a bucket of balls. No, it's a fountain of youth and the binding force for generations wherein conversation this morning with a nominated actor Elliott Gould he's talking with our men in Hollywood, Ben Mankiewicz really cool all the world's a stage, even when that stage is a backyard patio in Los Angeles.

To be or not to be that the question Gould is rehearsing Shakespeare. Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer the slings and arrows, but he's not playing Hamlet simply decided at age 82. It was time to memorize what we all go way back in the IOU from the thing with the guy in the play. He's never been a typical Hollywood star. Not now and not in 1970. Time magazine put on its cover. Donald Sutherland, one of my best partners great actors to be what good does it do to know everything when you don't understand anything walking out of the I'm sorry I was okay. I never saw one like him. Gould understands that seven decade long goodbye to the oceans, movies and friends as characters been unconventional and distinctive system completed so Saturday Night Live return home to his New York where you from I'm from Brooklyn, New York. I was conceived and born and brought up in my next question was where were you conceived his birth certificate reads Elliott Goldstein's mother, Lucille changed his last name without telling Joseph nudged into show business.

My mother would say to me I'm your severest critics use. All you have to do is please. I thought that's not very fair.

As I to know myself is that what you're saying that, as I can't please myself until your please at eight or nine. His parents enrolled their shy, withdrawn kid in a song and dance school. He was good in 1962 at 23 earned the lead in a Broadway musical. I can get it for you wholesale from now on I am telling you my day where he met an actors playing his secretary 19 Barbra Streisand, how'd you get her to go out. So after her last audition. They say thank you. She was very flummoxed as to being right there not knowing what happened next, and so she announced her phone number that would somebody call me and I remember her number and I called her and then you got started dating after she got married. We had a son. We have a great life you got married. I didn't know that's not a lie not in my notes. They were in it couple, she became a superstar. Well, he had back to back breakout films on first he earned an Oscar nomination comedy about the sexual revolution, Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice Robert Cole Diane Cannon and Natalie will Natalie Wood, Diane Cannon would she's so missed you can really savory in that instructor John McIntyre in MASH for director is quite make the same came at a cost. Gould and Streisand who had a son Jason in 1966 stayed together for eight years until they divorced in 1971. What ended the marriage with with Barb. Barbara asked me at one point she saw writing her book.

She said why did we grow apart and I said, my question would be how could we answer to that is that we did together and the reason for that was because she became more important than us, and I also said to her.

We did great.

We made it very fast and nobody has what we see you and me and our kids thousand dollars after the divorce collaborated twice more will long goodbye decision to make here is an addicted gambler in California split that is to gamble a lot. Well, I may have obsessive-compulsive funeral. My family had no money and I'm second-generation American and so I would award the sort of gamble like you know a lot of people have that and you lose a lot of money's made a lot of money. Nobody makes and fittingly it was in Las Vegas where Gould met the King, we went backstage and I met Elvis and Elvis and I were in the same room and said it was carrying a gold gilded 45. It is built and Elvis looked at me said you're crazy you're crazy I said, I think crazy over some scared, just like you and then he said to me you said why did you and Barbara split your two of my favorite people and I said shut up. Elvis shut up shut up shut the over story is good. The Groucho one might be better. Groucho Marx was home bedridden. Gould came to visit and so a light bulb blue and so I was able to get a fresh light bulb took my shoes off, got on it back on his bed's took the use one out put the new one in, Groucho gave me the greatest review I will ever get which was that's the best acting I've ever seen you do like over not Gould has staying power. He keeps acting family keeps thinking and finding peace in the present to be in the moment. This is everything and you're in the moment I now stream progress and crazy time once final point is when people in the best way to protect people final season Millstream exclusively on his takeout with Gary this week Stephen Law ally of Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm money list for me to set races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed with Nevada not Georgia. Georgia is right up there with New Hampshire's products to New Hampshire people really just kind of don't like that you have for more from this week's conversation, follow the takeout with Maj. Garrett on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts women marched in the streets of Washington and other cities yesterday proof our Aaron Moriarty explains that it would be wrong to assume women are of one mind.

This campaign is it fair to say that in 2020. It's really not an issue ran blue anymore. It comes down to pink women voters have been driving the election outcome for the better part of the last 30 years. I am Kate and I am a mom of two nice there. Erica Ryland Patsy Crawford. I love family and friends. I've been married for 19 years, Karen Watkins Robinson, community advocate and members of what may be one of the most crucial voting blocs this year. Suburban women in battleground states. The most important issue to me is Obama care that's been a lifeline for us what's in state for this election is racial equity health equity and social and economical equity. I believe under the Trump administration is going to be that the best future for our children for our families.

Women have always been very committed to voting in 1980. They been out voting man that I think this level of the sense our vote is fundamental to the future I think is new and different leader who runs all in together a nonpartisan voter education is women on both the political spectrum are usually energized this year friend that's been building since 1980.

Reagan won the presidency. Women who are entering the workforce as working girls and their shoulder pad huge numbers of women on the conservative and Gail also come out. A generation later.

It was white women who tip the scales and help with Pres. Trump in office, somebody said suburban women house from doing another lesson.

They said women offered Erica Ryland live in Wood County, Ohio. In both lines voted for Barack Obama in 2016. They swung right for the bank candidates from just like their county itself realized that I country most important future.

I believe that he is been the most pro-life president. Yet at the same time a lot of other women like Kate Spano Meister living in suburban Wisconsin couldn't bring themselves to vote for either major candidate, a lot of us, myself included, thought there's no way trumps going to win so we voted third party which I did myself, and those vote in the battleground states in Michigan and Wisconsin where the election is very tight with the president one by just 11 or 12,000 but the votes of the women had a huge the outside influence on the impact of the election. Suburban women in states like Ohio and Wisconsin could again prove pivotal in this election.

Especially white women without college degrees president from across the country nor former VP Joe Biden are taking them for granted is on his way. I will no longer have health insurance, both campaigns have launched an all-out assault of political advertising Joe Biden can turn our country down. Erica Franklin Fowler heads the Wesleyan media project at Connecticut's Wesleyan University and at overwhelmingly focused in the summer on crime and public safety. Biden has been much more on core issues, healthcare and like my grandmother didn't matter in today's suburbs.

One political message may not fit all. Does a campaign take a risk by reducing them to simple descriptions like soccer mom security mom suburban mothers.

I think anytime you try to take anyone demographic and fit them into a neat little box there is a danger this past summer. Pres. Trump was sharply criticized by some on social media for tweets referring to suburban housewives of America rise Kenosha and and produced by a pro-trunk group seem to be designed to year the Kate spittle Meister who lives in Kenosha.

The site of violent protests this summer sees the unrest in a different light in our neighborhoods there. There were armed people just regular citizens and those armed citizens stood at the entrances to our subdivisions and that was way more terrifying to me than what was happening, you know downtown Atif of Robinson also lives in a Kenosha cyber both at the same encouraged people to create a divide between our communities and what I've learned. If we sit down and talk about the situation. What we have is a common ground is that we do want to see change the fact that American suburbs are now extraordinarily diverse over 30% women color live in American suburbs. Both Karen Watkins and Patsy Crawford living in Ohio suburbs came to the US as children. Patsy, a Brazilian immigrant supports the president's wall.

I am all about doing the right way. I mean, we had to follow the laws and go through the naturalization process. Karen, his mom is Japanese think the country should be more welcoming.

I believe that anybody was to come here should have the same opportunities. They spend the money in our economy and they contribute to society and our country undecided voters planning lots and lots of Pulitzers inside the numbers of undecided in this election are really very minimal and with only 16 days until the election.

Most voters are so entrenched that no lad news event or even scandal is likely to change their minds. Downtown sad prior to being elected that he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and people would still vote for anything that the president could do that would make you change the boat before this election that will in the end of the election is tight and doesn't win new hearts may still be successful if it inflames hearts already wide. Turnout is everything, especially everything in the all-important battleground states where it does often come down to just a few thousand songs like that one, Christopher Cross is been riding high for years until this year when covert, 19 brought him low. He describes his ordeal to our serene cultural Christopher Cross has put numbers on hit sailing thousands of times before, but never like this.

It's his first session in a recording studio since the 69-year-old was stricken with the coronavirus nearly killed him, there was some usefulness or whatever world was looking for us to get out of this thing was true said unsure starting over much of the cross is life. You it wasn't supposed to be this way. 2020 marks the 40th anniversary of his self-titled debut album was a blockbuster turning cross five Grammy and will songs like never seeming Oscar-winning team process was set to launch a national tour this year 2020, had other plans. Where were you when you think you were exposed. It was early March that I went to Mexico City for a concert and to be frank, you know, nobody knew about master no one more muscle play.

No one was doing that we were made aware of the it was a problem, cross, and his girlfriend Joy tested positive for COBIT 19 we both got very sick with covert were sick for about three weeks. The biggest thing I remember just incredible malaise.

Just you could lift your head. They both quarantined and joy improved cross thought he was getting better to and in April felt good enough to go shopping.

I went to the market.

I got home I just my legs just gave good walk at all. He was diagnosed with Guillain-Barré syndrome, a rare disease in which the body's immune system attacks the nerves. His doctor believes it was caused by COBIT, paralyzed in the hospital but I can't turn over. I can really do anything my hands were also paralytic which is hard to suffer the guitar course. I wasn't sure whether I would get that back paralyzed in the intensive care unit cross didn't know if he would live or die. I was lost about 10 days.

It was the worst I can walk could barely move and so it was so the darkest of times for me protection go.

What were some of the things you work saying to yourself in those darkest moments.

I can tell you that I had a few conversations when I was in there with whoever he or she is and just thinking of you could just get me out of here I will be a better person and just know it's so very hard when you're just looking for any sign of life.

You know that darkness so whatever I did work right. And here he is outside Austin, Texas. While the paralysis was temporary. The facts still linger across who was in a wheelchair considers himself a long haul covert survivor. He now uses a cane so you like my walking is affected my speech at times can be affected. Memory is a big deal to just neurologically cut a little foggy.

You know, not on medication nerve pain medication which also can cause some of the fogginess. But until I can get off of it. At some point I will really know how clear out the most number right heel. About 9200% over about a year. That's what my prognosis that's the prognosis that you will heal and you're on a trajectory towards healing well, that's my hope. You target that healing is playing the music, something unthinkable only a few months ago and see me and support for people to know you can get this so I felt it was sort of obligation that I want to assure people look this is a big deal like you got where your mask. You gotta take care of each other because you know this could happen to you.

Cross can't wait to her again. What a moment like for you head back out on stage for the first time.

I don't know whether I'll walk out with my cane.

But I gotta tell you it's hard you know my fans. I know them and their loved really feel in my heart is earlier. We talked about the critical role women play in this year's election. Now Salie tells us an entire century after women's suffrage became the law of the land.

Three of the movement's founding mothers have finally been put on a pedestal when many statues are coming down some are going up breaking the Braun monument to suffrage pioneers, Sojourner Truth, Susan B Anthony and Elizabeth Cady Stanton was recently unveiled in New York City's Central Park.

The first statue of real nonfictional women. Hillary Clinton helped commemorate the event which marked the hundredth anniversary of women winning the right to vote though.

It's important to note that it would take many more decades for black women suffrage to truly be protected by law.

I would say that it tremendous weight is lifted about 7000 pounds artist Meredith Bergman spent three years bringing her creation to life. Why important to choose these particular pioneers well these years that history has elevated. They were the most accomplished.

They were the loudest but there's many many others. And there are many other cities, putting women on pedestals. Cambridge Massachusetts is considering designs for its suffrage monument last year at Richmond, Virginia hundredth suffragist Adele Clark and now a statue of Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg is planned in her birthplace, Brooklyn, New York.

But first statues of real women in Central Park exactly been a walk in the park. How can you have statues of men everywhere and the only statues of women are Mother Goose, Alice in Wonderland we needed real women a few years back we spoke with Colleen Jenkins who happens to be Elizabeth Cady Stanton's great great granddaughter and Pam Milam who run the monumental winning campaign sponsors of the statue said immediately know there will be no new statues in Central Park at historical collection. No we persisted. The city finally gave permission for Anthony and Stanton to stand among men like Shakespeare and you know green. Another problem, every commission that I worked on has involved controversy and things have to be reconsidered and often redesign Bergman's original design feature just Stanton and Anthony along with the school naming many women of color who also played roles in the suffrage movement but rejected the scroll.

Only Anthony and Stanton were left standing, and this design was met with backlash from Gloria Steinem, among others, not only for its lack of diversity, but also because of Anthony and Stanton's expressions of racist ideas that a cut off her right arm, then give the black man the right to vote over the woman inside. I think so. Both hurt by that sentence. Do I look up to Susan B.

Anthony, who was defending part of what I believed in that all women should have the right to vote or what I do with the racist rhetoric of hers, Salomé should tell it is a professor of African-American studies at Rutgers University. Do you think there should be monuments of Stanton Anthony sexes not to include their voices and their experiences, but also be racist not to understand that there championing of women's rights did not include the women who are fighting alongside them like Sojourner Truth, and it is Sojourner Truth, a woman who escaped slavery to become one of America's greatest orators who now has a seat at the monuments table. Some historians have said that the addition of truth, is still problematic because this depiction doesn't accurately represent the suffrage movement to have them in this kind of interracial harmony not accurate but also harmful to have a sanitized wash version of the women's movement doesn't serve any of us who call ourselves feminists in 2020 mouse. What is she saying I leave it up to you controversy. Notwithstanding Bergman statue is an artistic interpretation.

They represent different kinds of activism.

Sojourner Truth was famous for speaking is speaking. Stanton wrote wonderful speeches and books is about to write and Susan B.

Anthony showing them papers and pamphlets that she has brought from all her the fight for rights and representation continues to unfold. Monument shows us the challenge of America is that we have so many stories, millions of people walk by two every year. What monument well I want the monuments is just 16 days until America decides and were being buried by a blizzard of poles that from John Dickerson of 60 minutes.

We are in the high season of political polls feels like were pelted with a new one by the hour, public interest in the looming election day charge.

The atmosphere are the polls solid can they be trusted once the sample size I've never been called artisans bicker over interpreting the polls as if the election were on the line in that moment in jittery times. Polling keeps everyone hopped up. Maybe we should ignore them will know soon enough, but we should not ignore the polls if for no other reason than political polling encourages humility. That's useful in politics or any other public issue in an age where everyone thinks they're so right about everything over the holes do little polling looms the belief the polls were wrong in the last election. This is the popular view, it is also the wrong view in 2016. The average of national show that Hillary Clinton was leading by around 3% of the votes came in and she won the popular vote by a hair over 2%, very close what was wrong was the way a lot of us thought about the polls and thought about the forecasts being made about who might win the election.

Hillary Clinton was given anywhere from 70 to 99% chance of winning many people even some follow elections for living decided to round that number up to 100% the polls are to blame for that anymore than the weather forecaster deserves the blame for your lack of an umbrella. When a 30% chance of rain is predicted in this way the political class repeated a familiar mistake of leaning too hard on the numbers 1936 they overran a poll taken in literary digest, which showed Alf Landon beating Franklin Delano Roosevelt. They missed by a mile because the poll participants looked more like the literary digest audience in the actual electorate misunderstood, who would be voting mistake some posters also made in the Midwestern states in 2016. It's the reason posters will be the first to warn about the uncertainty of poles voters and pundits may need certainty from them. But that's on us dumpling the polls for that. I'm Jane calling.

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