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Barry Petersen sets out to find why people don't want to wait and what we can do to keep cool in an impatient world. Lee Cowan finds what makes a Guinness World Record. Steve Hartman reports on one kid's sweet relationship with a spooky buddy. Ben Mankiewicz reports on a film about his grandfather's struggle to complete the screenplay for "Citizen Kane." Mo Rocca looks back at the 1876 election. Seth Doane reports on how Europeans see the 2020 U.S. presidential election while Elizabeth Palmer reports on the view from Russia. Luke Burbank takes a look at how some places are setting up drive-thru haunted houses for Halloween, and John Dickerson discusses what to consider when casting your ballot.

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Life is for living. Let's partner for all of it. Learn more@edwardjones.com morning. I'm Jane Pauley and this is Sunday morning. Do you find yourself aggravated in our hurry up and wait world will Barry Peterson will be along shortly to instruct us all in the virtues of patients then it's onto a giant of American journalism never really existed is Charles Foster Kane, the antihero of the classic movie citizen Kane. Although Orson Welles frequently gets all the credit. Champions of wells lesser known collaborator are still hoping for him to win his fair share, and for our Ben Mankiewicz. It's all a family affair where where to see why Citizen Kane is a classic, you should know the story behind extremely different personalities collided with one another and make something still talk about the new my grandfather on Sunday. Stevie next is a longtime member of the rock band Fleetwood Mac, not to mention a solo artist as well. This morning shall be talking with Tracy Smith for the record after five decades in the music industry meeting next is suddenly as hot as ever with a new song or fail in a whole new following. Why do you think because I just won't go away.

Comparable Stevie nicks on talk about job Lee Cowan has witnessed an attempt to break the unlikeliest of world records. The bigger the better.

It certainly does record can be colorful 2000 hours for about 20 seconds of pleasure if it goes off difficult 3210 will work on Sunday. Morocco relives the bitterly contested presidential election of 1876 Seth Joan Elizabeth Palmer tell us why the whole world is watching this year's election just in time for Halloween. Luke Burbank visits I drive through haunted house class politics with John Dickerson and more on this Sunday morning 25 October 2020 and will be back after this. Are you wait watch words for our exasperating times.

But there's another phrase to remember.

Patience is a virtue. As Barry Peterson learned when he set out to report our cover story in those pre-pandemic days of not so very long ago you seen the pictures you focus you be ready to wait wait wait an hour of the polls. The grocery store we Americans are really worried. But consider this, even before we spent an estimated two years of our lives.

We launch with complications and that was a good Thursday.

Many of us just can't wait for things to get back to normal, but it turns out, impatience, almost as dangerous virus itself people are just so anxious to return to what used to be dangerous and interesting study where they give people the choice to sit on board or give them so painful electric shock and about 70% men chose to give themselves painful electric shocks persisted alone. I get bored so don't like to get bored. People do not like to be controlled. People do not like uncertainty, but that's only half of the house. Sgt. Dr. much department researchers and patients of the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota before the pandemic. He told us why we are designed to be impatient so I'm little babies are born they don't just wait for you to clean their diapers to cry and when was the last time you really preferred a slow elevator order for you love, you know, slow Internet connection. Turns out how we handle ourselves in these uncertain times comes price.

The opposite of patience is not impatience the opposite of patients is anxious injured addicted lonely and in bed literally computer it can an episode of explosive anger, stress of impatience getting crazier risk of heart attack and sudden death by eightfold for the next few hours while you are learning about Dr. sutures impatience can even have a long-term effect on your dear if he were to take a blood sample and measure your low mirrors, which are at the end of chromosomes. The sharper they are the smaller they are older you are, and people who are impatient have shorter telomeres are actually making themselves older by being impatient. Yeah, some people say the only thing that gets faster with impatience is aging impatient evil twin brother stress. Try to stay as relaxed as possible. I took Mayo Clinic stressed designed to serve the stress of everyday life. Start prepping you must do things like keep squeezing her grip on your three minutes keeping ice cube reasonable really and truly overwrite her 30 seconds.

The results dramatically higher blood pressure changes to the heartbeat. What was the test was overseen by Dr. Michael Jordan, rising blood pressure are reminded of it is like being on the phone trying to customer service for lecture and was simply waiting to not have the same affect on people have very hard time understanding what do don't have control over the country like the world is out of control. These days, but we do have control over ourselves. If you choose to be patient. You are helping yourself living longer and happier helping your loved ones being patient is a choice. Dr. sutures. The other word that will help us through the pandemic is resilience that will fire up your body stores you got a fist fight this wise power is immune cells to fight this virus and resilient immune cells are stronger envisioned boosting your resilience walk in the park little or so many elements of nature that we respond to Florence Williams traveled running about how nature can help us master impatience and make us healthier pretty clear on even after just 15 minutes of walking in a green park, our blood pressure drops a little bit.

Heart rate slows down our stress hormones, cortisol real good very dramatically. No surprise.

The frustration of lockdowns quickly get rid of people flooding the outdoors where my coat and feeling better for some tickets to a new level of doing something the Japanese inventor called Forest. Basically hiking in slow motion. The benefit of slowing down. Is that your life is in passing James West psychologist leads forest bathing sessions in the Colorado Rockies. I think being in a forest surrounded by green wonderful spouse allows us to be lost in this as if nothing else exists. I know that's so hard to find these days, but it is doable. It's reachable and I do this because it gives me the won't be anytime soon, but Dr. students just we can turn our impatience to good use. We just want to is there to make ourselves better training ourselves about patience to rise because of the ability to rise above may be sorely trust since we've heard Bella counting go on for days after November 3 for Americans for America. What might be the ultimate test up in the sky fireworks display. That's truly a bang up job here is Lee Cowan customer. Think about fireworks. We trick-or-treating a little scared magic and Scott winter fireworks above the ski slopes of Steamboat Springs, monster readying to jump out of nowhere.

This was February 2019 the date the biggest area fireworks show in the world, gingerly being loaded. This is certainly one of the more unique record attempt I've ever done. Michael and prick works forgiveness yeah were 14 7% here would be achieved with the correct trauma lots.

I was convinced it was going to be successful 100% in the chill night. The man behind the record attempt to important anxious team and spent six years dreaming this moment and now it all came down to the push of a button. 321 biggest area fireworks so sorry very easy to go out and say hey great job during the Guinness world records, titleholders hard part is how you deliver the new that. Oh that went really poorly. This is an official Guinness world records search dressed in their crisp Guinness uniforms and prick his colleague, Christina, for calling a record record take some record-setting does it ever get ugly. We definitely think people who are not. I've had some stuff tossed in my direction, water bottles, water bottles very easy thing to throw these two here and I just I can't mosaic earlier this year job is to judge don't call them Guinness prefers the word adjudicator.

It's very British Irish actually Guinness world record just to be linked to the famous Dublin brewery Guinness first published a book of achievements in 1955 sump pump disputes since then that book 2021 version came out earlier this month I sold over 143 million copies didn't. As a kid flip through it. The world's tallest living may shortest, heaviest squash most tennis balls stuffed in the dog's mouth. It's six. By the way you would consider weird. We consider very normal so like the woman with the longest fingernails I know her name is ionic. She lives in Houston. Just lovely. She does everything except dishes in the sink that is very normal to me. Her figure 32 feet in total feet yes I let them go maybe 3 inches and the next thing I know they we must records do leave you in some state of do you get 51 people crammed into a class this week's challenge bottle.

Can you do 30 seconds, but set up weekly at home. Anything you can do alone usually get about application every single week break record. One of the most common is the mass participation back in 2018. The world's largest city Symphony record to be 502 tubas playing in years because it was December, they chose what else Silent Night when actually I Christina witnesses counted 800-3522 ensemble victory is sweet. Sometimes it is literally sweet, walking company was one of honor is 150th anniversary two years by baking the most players to hiring God or the layers started to lean pretty nervous and started the cake had to stand upright and assisted for 62nd time in 3212, refusing to give up make it happen. I think it really teaches you to doubt which brings us back to the guy guy was to give up. I don't think anybody is team came back here to try for the biggest firework record. One thing I can guarantee that a heck of an explosion at the bottom of that mortar. I can guarantee regular fireworks in. Everyone took the place just like you before you're ready pitched 321 go dark.

2700 think brighter than the fireworks team inspired me in a way that I didn't expect that the job what to have that opportunity to go and say you know what really good job that's a great feeling director Orson Welles is widely acclaimed as the creator of the 1941 film classic citizen Kane but I'm less abraded man deserves his due as well is because it's a family affair for our man in Hollywood. Then Mankiewicz is arguably the most thing. This word spoken on and it comes from what many consider the greatest citizen Kane Welles's 1941, master rise, Charles Foster Kane and capitalist based on newspaper tycoon Randolph Knight. Six years later I got my candidate all focus and lighting techniques that use shadows to direct the audiences attention.

Citizen Kane is a cinematic landmark. So it's only fitting that the story behind it is equally compelling. That's the story director David Fincher tells his new Netflix. I spoke to venture on stage XIX at Paramount Studios. It's where Welles made citizen Kane 80 years ago when you book or movie that is cohesive, as Kane was from the authorship standpoint. Fires on all cylinders. Fincher's film is called man is coming very old stars as Herman Mankiewicz Wells hired to write the screenplay for King disclosure Herman Mankiewicz was my grandfather for all that I know all of my father knew about his dad. You captured apartment completely authentic.

Well, that's a great thing to hear Fincher's resume includes fight club killing your wife longer and the social black and white. Someone most people never heard of curious choice. What was the pole of late 30s early 40s. I wasn't was the character it was. It was the guy was the notion of someone struggling with great ability and personal troubles. And you know his pushing a rock up a hill and gravel.

My grandfather was a character called and tormented was the smartest and wittiest guy in the room. Also, the drunkest, his career was a low point when he met Orson Welles who was soaring closely by intelligent man three years before Kane Welles's radio broadcast of war.

The world scared thousands in believing Martians had invaded Jewish wells new so the at just 24. Welles was given carte blanche to make any movie he wanted, so he went to my grandfather, who had an idea take on the original media mogul William Randolph Hearst. Herman had been the parties thrown by Hearst bearing witness to the wild excesses were too interesting to me is the notion of a guy who had overheard a lot of things and had a really specific understanding of the world that he was pulling the curtain back from citizen Kane and Lakehurst really people crush dissent. Fincher re-created Hearst Castle blending vintage photographs with digital effects is a great shot of Gary Oldman as my grandfather come out looking for.

Mary said about his biggest unit was 20 x 24 is the doorway and then the rest of its map and it's Quite Classy Exactly What Way, Welles would that's a scene with Meg and Mary and Dave movie star.

Everybody was first mistress, played by Amanda really we spoke to her outside the Manhattan mansion. Hearst bought for Dave not that bright really like she was actually so much smarter now deciphered started mean girls in black and white film set during Hollywood's golden date was a welcome change of pace rates way just go back the debate over who wrote citizen Kane has been raging for decades. My grandfather wrote a long first draft Welles condensed they shared the films only Academy award the Oscar for best screenplay, but it's not the credit that matters to Fincher. It's the collaboration I was interested in watching how these extremely different personalities collided with one another for one moment in time and made something that we still talk about today while my link to Fincher's film is obvious.

There is also another family connection watching the titles of this movie screenplay by what Jack Fincher Jack Fincher was David Fincher's father was a journalist most of his life, which is why his assessment of the only good movies, written by and/or about journalists. I was indoctrinated with that from a very early age. David Fincher is not given the sentimentality but was clearly special for him to finish what his dad started 25 years ago in which she could have Tina get made before you know nine months and chemo but didn't happen. Jack Fincher died in 2003 and were left with this and it is nice to come full circle circle completed for me to I love seeing my grandfather's name on since I never knew it died in 1953, long before I was born going to like this but through Fincher and Gary Oldman on credit file can get a little taste of the real. My father would've been very, very pleased to see that you created.

His dad is someone that just about everybody would've wanted yeah yeah he's a match nine days to go before America decides on a choice for president and we certainly hope goes far more smoothly than the disputed election of 1876. Maraca takes us back 1876 was a banner year for America, the hundredth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence, a nationwide celebration of the country's population descending on Philadelphia for the Centennial exposition, but beneath the revelry. There was a deep sense of unease.

This was the depths of a pretty serious economic depression. There was widespread unemployment that were failing violent labor disputes going on in various parts of the country and says Columbia University history professor Eric Boehner, the country was still feeling the aftershocks of the Civil War, which ended only 11 years before it was still violence in the south which had existed since the Civil War because of white supremacists opposition to the giving of citizenship rights to the former slaves so it was not a tranquil year, that's for sure. 1876 was also a presidential election year and all of these issues, plus the rampant corruption in the administration of outgoing Pres. Ulysses S Grant would factor into the contest and Gov. Rutherford B Hayes was a charismatic. I wouldn't say so. Dustin McLachlan is the historian at the Rutherford B.

Hayes presidential center in Fremont, Ohio. He really exemplify that American tradition of office seeks you seek it with the trifecta over here we have Gen. Grant Gen. Sherman Gen. Sheridan all great union generals as well. He's his service as a general during the Civil War, says the center's Executive Director Christie whining or was central to his identity. He saw first passions that were behind the sectionalism that caused the Civil War that was always in the back of his mind is how do we make this country feel united again. Meanwhile, the Democrats were hungry to reclaim the White House, which they hadn't one in 20 years. Their candidate New York Gov. Samuel Tilden, a bachelor lawyer had made his name fighting big city corruption. The man was a bit lethargic and quite frankly, a lot of people thought it was dull, dull but dedicated he's home sat across from New York City's Gramercy Park and is today the National arts club overseen by Robert Jan or tell you this time nicer than the White House. This house is a great Tilden legacy while both had beautiful homes. Neither candidate says Eric Boehner was exactly Mount Rushmore material there's another way of putting both of them were basically mediocrities politically. Still, the turnout that November 7 remains the highest ever presidential election. The turnout was 2% of eligible voters extraordinary you had to political parties competing throughout the nation with people very loyal to them on election night Tilden was ahead in the popular vote by 260,000 votes.

Hayes and he actually has interviews with reporter saying I've lost the Republican Party has to step in and tell him to stop saying that. That's because Republican officials still saw a narrow path to victory for Hayes. If Hayes could carry the three southern states where the results were not yet clear, Florida, Louisiana and South Carolina. He would win by one electoral vote and they just issued a statement Hayes has carried those states and is elected and in a certain sense. It's almost like the 2000 election, where Bush made early claim of victory even though it was so divided and Gore never quite tested it properly and just as in the year 2000. Americain 1876.

Woke up the morning after the election. Not knowing who had one iteration back then was in early March, which meant the country had four months to figure out who would be its 19th president. This election was flawed from top to bottom. Massive voter fraud, says phone or only added to the confusion. There was violence throughout the South against African-American voters to try to make it impossible that the vote black man almost all of whom were Republican. Back then had only recently won the right to vote and southern Democrats were actively suppressing that vote if there had been a fair election in the South is no question Hayes would've one by a large margin. But as the weeks dragged on neither side was willing to concede how tense they were Democratic newspapers with have large march to Washington to install Tilden as president. There will Republican say we are on the verge of another Civil War Tilden or blood's idea that if Tilden is not counted in we might have another war to fight here. Was there a fear that there could be drilling presidency. Yes, there were key Democrats asked Tilden to take the oath of office.

Anyway he refused to do so, and there were a lot of people who setting particular businessmen and others of said selected but get this settled, but Congress was divided and the Constitution offered no clear direction for resolving the impasse. So in January 1877, a 15 member electoral commission was formed. The eight Republicans and seven Democrats would determine which candidate won the state seam dispute by some coincidence all the electoral votes allocated to Hayes by a vote of 8 to 7 in each case, that's right, the commission voted along party lines. But it's not over yet.

It's not over yet the children can't cried foul with inauguration just days away in the nation on edge representatives for both candidates met in Washington for secret negotiations. Ironically, they took place in warmly house a major hotel which is owned by a black man warmly. Probably the most well-to-do African-American in the city of Washington… Ironic because the agreement forged there known as the compromise of 1877 would have long-lasting repercussions for black Americans in the South, the Democrats will not stop the inauguration of Hayes.

They will accept Hayes as president Hayes will and the remaining reconstruction. In other words, the Republicans get the White House.

The Democrats effectively regain control of the American South. No more federal protection of the rights of recently freed African-Americans.

The Democrats promise they will respect the basic rights of the former slaves which they do not do Rutherford B Hayes was certified as president on March 2, 1877 Samuel Tilden accepted the decision. Three days later Hayes was inaugurated in a peaceful transfer of power.

I think either Hayes or Tilden had been on the personality that was very aggressive was very intense, really wanted this presidency for very selfish reasons. I think the whole tenor would have changed today since Christie whining or president Hayes is remembered less for what he did during his single term in office than for the election that threatened once again to tear apart the country are visitors bringing up the election of 1876 more interested in how divisive the country was somehow knowing that we've been there before and survived. I think give some comfort and some hope to people downstream progress and crazy time once final point is when people in the best way to protect people final season Millstream.

This is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states might do something we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and purely as our strategic situation or situations not being matched up follow. Intelligence matters were ever you get your podcasts in my heart around just put the next on the musical map both as a member of Fleetwood Mac and as a solo artist. She's built a devoted following over the years and she's talking to Tracy Smith for the record, singer-songwriter first like waiting and she told us last waiting. Well, the hardest part. It seems like for so many creative people. This is a very creative time but also time is slipping away. Time is being stolen from on absolutely.

Especially if you're 72 years old.

Does that way. I knew that when you really working you really stay young because you have to, but when you're just sitting around in your house. I think that all mankind man time just released feature film 24 karat gold concert where she looks and sounds pretty much the same as always did the movie stream, but for the moment being shown in socially love. It will really dig rock 'n' roll concert and you as you.

The only way making yourself heard. She decided to release her first new song in six years. Show them the way. Call for action on the eve of the election. Now climbing the charts again, thanks to a cranberry juice loving reporter posted this video so for decades after dreams and rumors came out there.

Both in the top videos inspired quite a few imitators, including bandmate Mick Fleetwood. This one from tech that had blown my mind and I'm happy about it made so many people happy. You could say making people happy calling for the past 50 years or so, and after a career of platinum selling album concert. She became the first and so far only woman to be inducted into the rock 'n' roll Hall of Fame twice. 22 men that are in twice for their silverware and being in a big band and no women until you tell me so I feel that I definitely broke a big rock around laughing enter back story is just as legendary when young Stevie dropped out of college to chase her musical dreams are parents cut her off financially. So she waited tables and clean houses to support herself and her then boyfriend, guitarist Lindsey Buckingham where there are moments when you are cleaning and you were like cleaning houses, scrubbing toilets, mopping floors where it was there a moment when you thought I made a mistake. Now, now, because I was doing that to support my music have Lindsey and some other friends to you know that didn't have hardly anything, so I was the one who actually was able to pay the rent and pay the money to keep our toilet running and so it's like I didn't mind it because I did not expect my life and in the to get a job because what in the world. What he did had to be the one that she became a member of Fleetwood Mac expected to be underestimated arrangement with the group's other female star Christine McNees you two steps together through thick and thin and really had each other's back in and I made a pass at the very beginning that if we were ever in around her famous guitar player didn't treat us with the respect that we thought that we deserved that we would just stand up and say this parties over and we would walk out and did you have to do that. We never actually did have to do that.

I was in a mixing in their friendship relationships seem to be more of a challenge but some great music love a great love yeah three that is not easy to be even if you happen to be Mr. really came rockstar so Lindsay falls in that category. The great love well not exactly. Lindsay has his own category was my great aunts told her she Mary is wrong. Once but dad was also right for Stevie next music will always be true when I'm 90 years old. I don't want to be laying in my big, gorgeous bedroom and with music playing and 15 little Chinese crested dog and going like I'm so brokenhearted that I didn't find the outline and then I would have fancy myself and say yes, but you did find several of the one who you wrote really great songs about and that's why you're living in absolutely spectacular house with with everything that you want and anything you could possibly want to buy and it's like so maybe this is all the way your dad sign when he said in the way it's supposed to be in the police may sound the whole world really is watching America decide on our next president will be taking a closer look as election day draws closer and we start off with some stone and Elizabeth Palmer watching the watchers in Europe and Russia would begin with here in Europe there watching the selection closely and welcome to names with the top of the ticket one seems to get the most attention.

Pres. Trump is in a good where about the chimney Europe US relationship is strained recently, the longtime allies parting ways over climate change and spouting over trade.

New US tariffs on products ranging from French maid airplanes Italian Parmesan cheese. Trump is also criticized NATO partners for not paying their fair share, for he has appointed director was less helpful. The United Kingdom's former ambassador to the US sure Kim Derek knows both worlds well.

People who used American foreign policy find this extraordinary, disruptive and disconcerted like Derek made headlines in 2019. After confidential government memo really in which he referred to the trump administration as diplomatically clumsy and inapt. This type of direct assessment. He argues in his new book is typical.

You also points praised trump some messages, but really connect with people's messages was extremely effective difference knowing 2020 is a records to rubble judgment record and in turn America itself has been harsh in your same position tomorrow. Recent pew research survey found America's reputation among key European allies at a record low and little confidence in Pres. Trump's handling of world affairs. Do you think the world is moving past America as the superpower leadership has been very important to your will is just worry will become a more insecure or more dangerous conflict to place the US gets low marks here for its management of the coronavirus pandemic.

Broader issues like healthcare and the recent protests over racial inequality in many parts of Europe. The selection is not only being seen as a referendum on Pres. Trump but on America's leadership role in the world. This is the Moscow Marathon brings out thousands of runners in one of the cities Great Falls which love a good race. We some of them picking in the US presidential so will have a preference to cram in 2016, Russia meddled in the US election on the side of Donald Trump. Remember that troll factory in St. Petersburg happen in that nondescript building behind me, which was the headquarters of the Internet research agency. The nerve center of a sustained and covert operation to influence the American election on the Kremlin got what thought it wanted presidents Putin and Trump went on to develop some personal chemistry but it wasn't enough to warm relations between the two countries. In fact, just the opposite. Russia got burned by US sanctions for everything from cyber attacks to corruption and US intelligence says that Russia is trying to tip the scales in Pres. Trump's favor again the trust is a Russia expert with the London think tank Chatham House.

The Kremlin is very much disappointed with was going on. Pres. Trump but there is no doubt that they would like him to stay in their offices. For one thing Russia believes Republican ministrations are less likely to criticize it for human rights abuses and silencing but Vladimir Putin is nothing if not pragmatic.

He recently signaled he could work with either candidate and publicly praised him one sign that the Kremlin is prepared for Biden when is this comedy sketch on Russian state TV. It features a digitally manipulated Pres. Trump unemployed and looking for work. Sometimes while that's can be a great story. Ultimately, most Russians want the same thing as their leaders better relations with America.

After November 3, no matter who wins the race. Halloween in a time of call that is forcing folks to come up with some unique celebrations as Luke Burbank has discovered Halloween is just around the corner. Like so many things these days. You've got to get creative, you want to have a safe time from socially distant candy contraptions to costumes, kids spread out to maybe the most 2020 thing you'll see drive-through haunted house all across America from LA to New Jersey people are lining up that one night I saw my kid watching TV nothing really Johnny Moran T owns a carwash in Copenhagen, New York. So I said to myself, what can I do bring a little joy to some younger children and adults that matter. And that's what inspired me to do. The author and people have been waiting for hours just to get in for $25.

They get their carwash and they get menaced by Moran T's employees dressed as characters sure to haunt any kids night scape for years to come. Meanwhile in Portland, Oregon. Things were getting messier for folks visiting Oak Park want to drive customers can choose from one of five experience ranked from 0 to 5's goals based on how scary they are. Is it a challenge to scare people when they're in the relative safety of their car. Yes, that is the main concern is how to make it scary with that barrier Alex for more is one of the owners of scare grounds PDX who put this attraction together. One thing he didn't expect people were actually getting too scared when the creepy characters were wandering up their cars in line for the event summaries the medicine characters are not quite sure with us you're not sure if it is wanted out of the woods.

This feels like a moment in time where if an actual Michael Myers is 100 no down the street left 2020 for as night fell, I was ready to drive through one of the experiences but I wouldn't be doing it alone. I brought along my actual nephews Jack and a for protection. Are you guys scared right now feeling like a we chosen an experience rated force goals, meaning really scary.

And let's see what this one is this one. Once inside, we were given a Bluetooth speaker so we could hear the terrifying characters as they tried to claw their way and then just like that it was over I was it ever you know we had to be in the car was so scary we'd survive and even had a pretty good time being scared out of her wits with just over a week to go thoughts on the state of the campaign. Now John Dickerson of 60 minutes. 50 million Americans have already voted.

How did they make their decision and informed electorate is vital to a healthy democracy. Thomas Jefferson believed but he and the founders left no instructions. Should we choose by studying candidate resumes or their debate performances. Should we think about who we want to have a beer with or who has better policies you think to operate such heavy machinery. There would be some kind of manual.

There are no guidelines for making our choice, in part because it first presidency was a clubhouse election only property white man made the choice and they knew the score. If they stray the electoral college, and even more exclusive club guaranteed a good pick those men of reason Alexander Hamilton explained offered moral certainty, the office of president will never fall to the lot of any man who is not endowed with the requisite altercations that notion didn't last long instead of voters using reason to evaluate candidates for virtue and skill reason was used to rationalize the candidate that would bring political power. The ninth Pres. William Henry Harrison worried that people would just pick the most popular candidate man of the fairest characters would sell themselves to the public like auctioneers selling linen high-minded concern except Harrison's Whig party sold him to voters, bypassing cups of hard cider. It's difficult to use your reason.

When your pied political parties were in control. For a long time, and the parties told voters how to pull the lever in 1928 Herbert Hoover was nervous that his party had oversold him. My friends have made the American people think me a sort of Superman should there arise in the land conditions with which the political machinery is unable to cope. I will be the one to suffer a call that one since that laws that blocked Blacks and women from voting have been demolished back room party bosses have been vanquished to candidates took over the task of defining for voters what the job requires and what you know the job requires someone just like them. For some partisans that's enough. They vote by team jersey for the rest. We not only have to evaluate the candidates but come up with a scheme for doing so were all in the clubhouse now this is our glorious burden political persuasion. We are just guessing.

You've probably had enough of all those mean-spirited campaign commercials which is why this one stood out to us so we decided to share Chris Peterson and I'm Spencer Cox. We are currently in the final days of campaigning against each other to be your next governor, and while I think you should move for me really useful for me. There are some things we both agree on. We can debate issues without degrading each other's character. We can disagree without hating each other and win or lose in Utah.

We work together so let's show the country that there's a better way.

My name is Chris Peterson and I'm Spencer Cox and we approve this message. Thank you Chris Peterson thank you Spencer Cox are both winners in our book, I'm Jane calling. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning with this week. Stephen Long live Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm money list for me to Senate races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed with Nevada not Georgia.

Georgia is right up there with New Hampshire's products to New Hampshire people really just kind of don't like you have for more from this week's conversation, follow the take-out with Maj. Garrett on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts