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Serena Altschul talks with experts about the dangers of avalanches. Lee Cowan looks at the enduring popularity of the late TV painting instructor Bob Ross. Mo Rocca interviews actor LeVar Burton. Tracy Smith talks with actress Ellen Pompeo about the future of "Grey’s Anatomy" And Erin Moriarty of "48 Hours" investigates allegations of sexual harassment by former female employees of McDonald’s and its franchisees.

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Let's partner for all of it. Learn more@edwardjones.com I'm doing holy and this is Sunday morning after one year of Comed while looking for any way of getting out of the house. We can find and for avid skiers. That means hitting the slopes, but this winter skiers are contending more frequently than usual. Without most terrifying of warning cries avalanche Serena cultural starts us off this morning. Winter sports have offered people cooped up inside a welcome respite from the ravages of the pandemic. The snowpack throughout the West is not always cooperated. One of the accidents we had was last week. Avalanche itself, breaking the snow was so 3000 feet wide and extra by a person I had on Sunday morning visit to avalanche country. After that, we are in conversation with actress Alan Pompeo, Star of the long-running TV series Grey's Anatomy just how much longer it will Ron is the mystery. Our Tracy Smith will be trying to get to the bottom of your last laugh. Grey's Anatomy is the longest running primetime medical drama on TV now. The burning question for the shows star and producer Alan Pompeo is when or how to end it. Are you looking now and I'm not try to make it give anything away. Okay, but still her answer might surprise you. Alan Pompeo later on Sunday morning. Moraga has a Sunday profile of actor LeVar Burton, Nancy Giles is a blast from the past she's on the record with two cofounders of the fifth dimension. Aaron Moriarty looks into charges of sexual harassment at McDonald's plus Steve Hartman, Jim Gaffigan, and more on this last Sunday morning of the month February 28, 2021 will be right back slopes. There is no more frightening cry than the call avalanche and a Serena also tells us it's been heard a lot this winter with sometimes deadly results mountain mornings above Ketchum, Idaho often begin with cannon fire. The enemy avalanches.

The Sun Valley ski patrol uses explosives to test the snowpack on the mountainside.

It's one way scooter Gardner, the head of snow safety for the resort keeps his guests safe. Our ultimate goal is to give skin customer is much ski water as possible is the safest possible to the blissfully unaware.

It might seem like overkill. I live beyond the boundaries of America's ski resorts threat from avalanches is a very real part of mountain life. These snowmobilers got caught in an avalanche last month in Utah for areas all the snow is is a horizontal representation of the seasons whether to really understand the danger of snowpack on a steep slope you have to dig a little deeper more readily. This slides off that's going to show poor bonding between those layers. Since the start of the pandemic enrollment in avalanche classes like this one. My Sun Valley guides has more than doubled with people looking to safely get away into America's wild and rugged backcountry mountain guide Chris Marshall walk students through the basics of search and rescue terrain management time and critically how to read layers of snow like a geologist read sediment when you got snow looks like sugar and especially when you can see the individual principles with her naked eye. These are facets snow. Scientists say climate change has heightened avalanche risk throughout much of the West there was heavy fall snow, followed by drought that formed a week layer, which was then buried under several feet of snow prime conditions for the most dangerous type of avalanche we call slab avalanches cohesive plate of snow like a magazine sliding off of an inclined table.

Bruce Trumper was the head of the Utah avalanche center for some 30 years before retiring in 2015, 93% of the time that avalanches triggered by the victim or somebody in the victim's party means we have a choice. We can avoid avalanches if we want to. By not triggering avalanches in 1977 as a young member of the ski patrol at Bridger boll in Montana. He was warned to stay off of the slope. That was a notorious avalanche path. Not that he listened in the first happens it feels like somebody pulled up the rug from underneath me. I flopped down on the snow and it just pulled me downhill Trumper credits managing to grab a tree, saving his life and I just felt like goes underneath this huge waterfall get hounded to death so Mayo's just tumbling down the slope going head over heels all over the place had mittens gone, skis gone, I mean snow is going everywhere down my underwear under my eyelids and when it came to a stop, I was. Like my chest. When snow is moving down a slope, it often feels like water but when it comes to rest. It tends to set like concrete.

Had Trumper been fully buried. He might have had only about 15 minutes to live the really important misconceptions is that you can dig yourself out if you. And you know just because of how the average flows when you get buried snow compacts.

It's really really hard and green as the director of the Colorado Avalanche information Center certainly is going to be one of the worst years in a long time. I'm hoping it's not going to be the worst year.

In fact, the week of January 30 was the worst week for avalanche fatalities in the US since 1910, with 15 dad and the season is far from over, you know, it's a pretty amazing natural hazard in that you have a person that goes across the snow slope and can release may be thousands of tons of debris goes rolling down the hill. One of the accidents we had was last week. Avalanche itself, breaking the snow was over 3000 feet wide and extra by a person that sort of risk-taking can now have legal consequences in Colorado. Two snowboarders are facing reckless endangerment charges, causing an avalanche above I 70 yeah if there's a high avalanche risk. Do you generally shut down public public lands. We don't do that part of our culture in the United States and certainly the Western states has a high degree of value on freedom and personal responsibility. So these are public lands that are there for everybody to enjoy. And that's a wonderful thing for all of us to have access to and without freedom to use those lands comes the responsibility to take care of ourselves and also take care of the other people in our communities so viewer beware if you're pushing the boundaries you're on your own. What are the best ways to survive in avalanche it is, like asking what I do if I get in the car wreck, you know. And the answer is there's not much you can do because these things are really really dangerous. And by the time you trigger that avalanche. You've already made all the mistakes are Burton is a veteran actor who's played a variety of roles and gathered an equally wide variety of fans along the way maraca has a Sunday profile when you walk down the street and you see that somebody from a distance recognize you can you size them up. She's gonna know me from Reading Rainbow Star Trek.

There are three kinds of TV watchers.

Those who first met LeVar Burton as to contact in the landmark miniseries and we have to adjust the vector processor. Those who came to know him for his role on Star Trek the next generation and those who grew up on Burton watching him host PBS's Reading Rainbow Wendy's television to you, simply the most powerful medium in the history of civilization communicating thoughts, ideas and stories.

Burton, whom we met says it was his mental my name children's TV giant and ordained Presbyterian minister Fred Rogers who shaped his understanding of what television can do told me that it was okay to use television as it was possible to enlighten, while entertaining that the two don't cancel each other out.

In fact, Burton originally planned to spend his life in religious ministry when he was just 13. He entered the seminary in Sacramento intending to become a Catholic priest is the feeling of awe and reverence. That being in a church there always really quiet environments and the pump and circumstance to fix, but Burton eventually decided to pursue a career in the actual theater and so his mother in English teacher took a second job waitressing in a nightclub to help her son through USC during his sophomore year he answered an open call for a television miniseries.

It was his very first audition was America before Ruth North America after roots and the America after Ruth was aware that this nation was founded on system that was brutal roots based on the Alex Haley novel began with the kidnapping of men think the tribes played by Bert big deal for us because finally, our story was being told from our point write the story of slavery in America had never been told of the point of view of the enslaved people aired over eight consecutive nights in January 1977. One. The reason why Ruth was broadcasted eight consecutive nights of programming was because the network was nervous that nobody would tune, but 100 million Americans ended up watching Edward great John Davis featured an All-Star I. Lewis got the newcomer LeVar Burton became the face of slavery still exist today.

Mass incarcerations of young men of color the relationship between the black community and law enforcement. All of these social issues are rooted in slavery and Americans still grappling with that with the massive success of scheme celebrity for Burton your washing machine things foxhunting show talkshows show. I think you're well on your way probably to go to if you want to go straight up. Yeah, the wind, but the same time. I love think I read in the drink natural serve. The battle of the network stars opportunities immediately post worthy opportunities of a celebrity. Did you like the celebrity I did when I had joined the popular culture and avid science fiction Burton, 1987 assumed the role of Jordi Laforge and Star Trek the next generation Gene Roddenberry's vision was one that included people who looked like meant that when the future comes as a place in inclusive vision, yes, but the character of Jordi was blind for most of the run.

Burton performed with the visor covering his eyes and how you act without your eyes. That's what I had to figure out use my body. I use my voice. I was born that way.

Parents let you live. What kind of question is that, of course, they let me live. I really have to develop other ways of communicating everything that I wanted the audience to know about back in one of my favorite fables toward his hair longest professional ride over 20 seasons has been as host of PBS's literacy program Reading Rainbow everything that I have done in the field of literacy is tribute son of an English teacher to have been part of an effort to turn kids who know how to read in the readers rely when they were children over the years Burton's red for groups large rhino looked at his world all tattered and torn and small.

There always people there to help us through the tough times squeezed and more recently recorded a hit podcast on LeVar Burton and this is called simply LeVar Burton reads it turns out, there are a lot of adults who want LeVar Burton to read to them absolutely covered was empty except for macaroni and pumpkin pie filling. LeVar Burton is 64 now and a grandfather and married to makeup artist Stephanie Cozart since 1992. Thank you all for coming in June 2019. Burton returned to Sacramento for the dedication of a park named after him we are making a barber will be in the barber just the latest on in a life filled with accolades and driven by purpose. Seems like all the things you handle such grace. Thanks I'm good I'm I'm blessed. I'm I've lived an amazingly charmed existence really have an ungrateful for 17 seasons fans of the TV show Grey's Anatomy.

I watched Alan Pompeo's character graduated from intern to surgeon this morning. She is out of the hospital and in conversation with Tracy Smith you have a garden before COBIT you might not know that Alan Pompeo is quite the home gardener. This is amazing. Why did you decide to set this up garden as she.

Last week we got a tour of the nursery shed. I have parsley.

This is outside the Los Angeles home she shares with her husband and three kids. Oregano is a really good antiviral properties like oregano oil for flu and cold is really good but I guess that you you chew oregano Italian girl I am sorry and I say I tell a story like an Irish course she's a lot better known for something else.

She's been helping to grow the past 17 years. That's one of us down there.

The first one of us was your loyalty show ADCs Grey's Anatomy happens to be the longest running primetime medical drama on American TV 17 seasons and Co. comparison Dr. kill there only lasted five years. Landmark CDS series – ran for 11 and perennial favorite yard, said goodbye. After 15 to pick me choose me love me as the show's title character, Dr. Meredith Gray Alan from Pao has survived all manner of vanity and hard Dr. great herself as COBIT 1999, and in recent episode she's been drifting in and out of the dream from which you may may not awaken now billions of hands are on waiting to see if Dr. Gray show lives or dies.

Are you looking now and I'm not try to make it give anything away.

We honestly have not decided where really trying to figure it out right now the middle deciding whether it ends or it's it's what story do we tell and show this iconic how you know how do we do it. I just want to make sure we do this character in the show and the fans want to make sure we do it right and you can bet it'll be heart stopping for her emotions seems to come naturally born in a working-class Boston suburb Alan Pompeo had by her own admission, a melancholy childhood is quite sad as a child. I think people might have. My sisters or my family might have other impressions of me, but I definitely had a very sad childhood because I lost my mother when I was four, so that shapes your entire existence. I think that is something that traumatic effect Academy had it affected probably made me want to get out of there. You know that place represented sadness for me so I thought maybe anywhere but there would be better and luckily for me I found a way to monetize on my emotion. You know well is to make a lot struggling actors from Pao's first on-screen roles were mostly small and often forgettable.

That is until her agent convinced her to stop taking bit parts and do a TV pilot for a medical show. I got cut out of a bunch of movies so then it came to a point where that I needed money so I did the greatest pilot because he needed my agent said you know what I said I don't want to be stuck in a medical show for six years. I don't think I'll be happy.

I think I'll be bored, and he said you know Ellen just take the job it's going to last a month six weeks at best and he things never go out and just be a job and you'll be right back to being broken, unemployed and complaining in a couple of months. I need to feel as valid as you say you value me I need to be able to look in the mirror.

This is just not enough. Do you have a number in mind and now 17 years later, Pompeo says she's learned just what she's worth to the network and how to ask for it. You are one of the highest paid actors on today and I would imagine that I know that didn't come easy. Now of course not. But in my specific instance. I had a very specific number that I can see what Grey's Anatomy is generated. I can see exactly how much that show makes for one of the biggest corporations in the world and her end of the deal is to be dollars and gray yeah well done and as for what comes next. Pao says even she doesn't know as we sit here we don't know whether Meredith is alive or dead. Basically right. We don't know I'm in that we hear in that we really don't know if this we choices. This is not bad for a girl from Everett now know not bad, but no matter what happens on the show this season. Pompeo will to some at least always be Dr. Meredith Gray and she in a way will live forever. It's a blessing. Of course, but at the same time you do have to kinda go. Okay, now I'm in this box. What happened what comes next. How do I find my way out. You could look at it like that. I looked at myself as if I was in a box when I was 35 years old now and 50 and I would never look at myself that way. So with age comes wisdom. And now, how do you see it and now how I see it like you do anything I want, or not do anything at all time for Steve Hartman question are dogs really man's best friend animal refuge in New Jersey is a shelter of last resort. Megan Brewster was really the one that don't have anywhere else to go with any Sadie was a German Shepherd nearly hundred pounds was a great movement, which is why three other shelters turned away why Brian Myers girl adopted her. I thought to give this dog a chance because she's beautiful and I think I can work through her issues. So at the time you thought you were rescuing her yes absolutely. Little did he know he was saving his Savior. I was very lucky to have her in the night they had the stroke.

As soon as I stood up here.

I fell straight down. Brian lives alone in my cell phone was over there so Sadie was his only hope. And that's when I grabbed her collar and she pulled me out of thisholder all the way across the room to respond as far as I know she's never been trained as a service dog or anything pointless. I can't think she can use as rescue dogs are often doubly loyal dog who lost something. All the dogs that have left the family. A person has that make that connection you really become their world good girl Brian so Sadie does constantly track and obviously she was at her post. That night he needed her most. Brian was rushed here to Inglewood health and Inglewood mergers spent a couple weeks of treatment in Rio just before his will. It's got a visit very grateful.

She just was kissing my face my glasses, my last. I just thought I love this dog. You don't need to be Dr. Doolittle to hear Savior. I love you.

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Any woman that he could get his hands on her being here he was taking advantage of that moment young women from across the country with remarkably similar accounts of workplace abuse and harassment at one of America's largest fast food restaurant chain isolated thought that I was the only one that right now you fell completely alone. Kimberly Lawson familiar fairly Barber and Emily Anibal have all either file discrimination charges were filed suit against McDonald's corporate restaurants or their independently owned franchises. Each tells a story of persistent and unwanted harassment from male coworkers. The tongs that we used to like make the food he used those like Rodney got my breast when it is just the two of you. He wouldn't try to hide it at all.

It was in front of everybody. It is hard to believe that in this day and age that it's still happening this egregiously this out in the open. Jillian Thomas is a senior attorney with the ACLU. She says hundreds of female employees have been subjected to sexual harassment at McDonald's restaurants as described in as many as 100 lawsuits and charges of discrimination. The other piece.

That's especially shocking at McDonald's, which of course bills itself as America's best first job is how young the victims are 15, 16, 17 years old you not saying this only happens at McDonald's. Oh, far from it. The food service industry generally is is one of the worst for sexual harassment claims last year and a survey of nearly 800 female workers at McDonald's restaurants and franchises three quarters said they were harassed at work in that same survey commissioned by unions.

A majority said that they suffer consequences for reporting the behavior, but a company spokesman disputes the findings same the sample size was too small and not consistent with what we're seeing in McDonald's restaurants and yet there are stories like camellia fair ladies map. I reported my harassment. They gave me 11 hours 15 hours and I can work with those hours it wasn't enough. It wasn't helping me keep my place in late 2018 fairly then 24 years old and a single mom was working at a corporate owned McDonald's in Florida when she says a new coworker began making lewd comments and touching her first for himself by don't touch me and what was his reaction when he said that he thought it was the Joe people see this happening yes and he was doing it to other women at my McDonald's as well.

I wasn't the only one fairly reported that behavior to both the supervisor and the general manager and yet she says that didn't end the offensive behavior and even worse to the point where he pushed me like grabbing things wrong area managers were standing there watching him do it like I didn't do nothing about it. He was eventually transferred to another store. She says, but not until fairly reported another incident with a different coworker, he like really maybe really upset because he yeah me.

How much would it be to have faithful my daughter and time issued only one usual so that employee was fired fairly stayed. She said she needed the job to provide a roof over one now is the right time to have this conversation in this corporate video McDonald's new CL says the company wants to be a leader when it comes to values do the right reasons. Everybody knows what it means to do the right thing in late 2019. The company did put out an extensive new policy for dealing with sexual harassment in its corporate stores but 95% of McDonald's are independently owned franchises and there the policy is only a resource, not a requirement. And this is how some past employees describe the sexual harassment training they received my patient was a lady as he sat across from me. She had that Kimberly Lawson worked at a McDonald's franchise in Kansas City in 2017 and 2018. You just sign and date everything so we can get this done. Now something that did list the policy having to deal with complaints of harassment and what you do you do encounter no idea.

We heard the same story over and over again. I never got any training on that at all. Remember any training on that are hearing about that. There was a page in the policy, but that is fine but knowing you don't been through it with me, so policy that's on a piece of paper stuck in a handbook that is never actually lived in the work environment is worthless, which may be have a worker in a McDonald's franchise in Mason, Michigan was able to harass colleagues there for years. This case where there was a serial harass or a serial predator east of Montes is an employment lawyer silly McDonald's and the franchise he harassed you. We woman who was there.

Basically, Emily, Anibal is 17 years old when she went to work at that McDonald's in April 2006, been an encounter John Banks a shift manager making comments or touching some pretty much every shift for most of the shifts you thinking just yet is kind of the environment and I think that was built at that restaurant is that this is normal and if you don't like it then you can leave she finally did leave in the spring of 2017. Five months later when Barber then 18 started working there. Banks was still a manager used to call me a bit ugly items that I told him to stop and what know he what, if anything, it made him persist more. Barber said she reported the behavior to the general manager I normally would either get a laugh get told that I was being dramatic. In September 2018 sheet to quit her job and what made you it was way too much to watch not only others get sexually harassed by also get myself sexually harassed. It was causing such a impact in my life personally, even when I was looking for new work.

I was having anxiety about whether someone at that work was going to be sexually harassing me. John Banks did not respond to our request for an interview the owner of the franchise through an attorney declined to answer written question is just a matter of one bad apple really not about one bad apple.

The problem is not just that you have a harasser it's that you have a harasser who is not being stopped after Anibal and Barbara along with several other women filed suit the franchise owner sold in stores.

McDonald's can say how are we going to be able to monitor the environment and every single one of these McDonald's will McDonald's actually does impose a great deal of control on its franchises.

McDonald's anyone the country they managed to have the exact same hamburgers and fries so they do actually have a lot of control so McDonald's Corporation could certainly be training these general managers about sexual harassment at about how to handle it. In its statement to CBS News McDonald's says that it makes training available to its franchisees and has made a hotline available for all franchisees to provide to their employees. If McDonald's is held liable in the cases filed by these women, the damages may not be substantial. Non-was making more than $14 an hour in a job that some see as inconsequential camellia fairly says she is finally being seen and heard. Do you have regrets. Sometimes about complaining no have no regrets about complaining at all. I feel like that out for myself for my daughter for other women whom he was bullying. I thought I was. I was making a difference. Lest we forget, here's Jim Gaffigan where my wife anything I know, I know I'm horrible but how do you celebrate a full year of living with the Corona. I guess inviting friends for a party is not a good idea. Try to move away from bleach. Can you believe we've all been living in a pandemic for a whole year. That's right, only 12 months ago we do strange things with friends like shake hands are or meet them for dinner. Without the fear of causing people to die just one year is amazing how time really doesn't fly by mail been a grueling 12 months, but I would like to focus on the positives for a moment okay no really the last 12 months have been interesting, but I'd be lying if I didn't admit I learned a couple I found the cooking for my family on a nightly basis over the past year has resulted in me being still not discovered. If I don't eat a huge block of cheese and drink 1/2 a bottle of bourbon at midnight. I will wake up feeling horrible the next morning and I have to keep discovering that lesson I discovered that giving online groceries delivered takes longer than actually shopping for groceries in person. I learned that using talk to text is the most efficient way to get on someone's nerves also was sure finally and most importantly, after spending just about every moment of every day for the past 12 months with my five children. I learned I no longer fear that Harry Chapin's numbers. Thank you for listening.

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