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In our cover story, David Pogue looks at the increased attention being paid to the investigation of UFOs. Tracy Smith sits down with actor Ewan McGregor, star of the Netflix series "Halston". Mo Rocca visits a Kentucky home for retired racehorses. Ted Koppel talks with attorney Ben Crump about his defense of victims of civil rights abuses and police brutality. Jim Axelrod examines recent controversies involving the U.S. Secret Service; Steve Hartman reports on a war of signs; and Chip Reid talks with entomologists about the once-every-17-years emergence of cicadas, and how their protein can satiate the appetites of predators (and cookie lovers).

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Learn more@edwardjones.com I'm jingling and this is a morning today, year after year, Americans from all walks of life claimed to be seeing things what they say they're seeing UFOs unidentified flying objects and the reports are so persistent that even the US government is searching for explanations this morning how David Pogue joins the UFO hunt used to be. If you believe that aliens are visiting our planet. You might be called a crackpot. I just can't believe that if were really being visited that it would be so hard to prove that you might be surprised at who's taking UFOs seriously. Department of Defense's name is involved with it. So I feel like that's really been a change coming up on Sunday morning.

New signs that we might not be alone in new people believing in conversation this morning with Ewan McGregor, the versatile movie actor who's adding a legendary fashion designer to his roster of roles as he'll be telling our Tracy Smith also say house is in a new TV series Ewan McGregor brings the designer Halston back to life and what a life it was Halston like being famous yet. Do you you yeah I do. I love that is very honest answer yeah but he can't be honest about everything will explain later on Sunday morning where to retired racehorses go to enjoy their golden years if they're lucky to the place Mo Rocca has been visiting, running a retirement home for thoroughbreds might seem like an odd career for a retired film critic body but don't tell that to Michael blowing here in Kentucky and surrounded by all these amazing animals and these are great athletes. Anita is like watching the movie stars then meet ahead on Sunday morning. Life after the races go around it.

Ted Koppel talks with civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump Jim Axelrod looks into alleged security lapses at the United States Secret Service and more on this Sunday morning 16 May 2021 and will be back after this. UFOs have been the stuff of science fiction. Also possibly be the stuff of reality. David Pogue is in hot pursuit of an answer we've always been fascinated by aliens and that's putting it mildly, and mathematically speaking, aliens should exist there 2 trillion other galaxies we can see each of the hundred billion earthlike world hundred billion okay. It's hard to believe they're all sterile sets just act as the senior astronomer at the SETI Institute study stands for the search for extraterrestrial intelligence.

I happen to know that this is sort of a trick question. When people say do UFOs exist, UFOs exist, because it just means unidentified flying objects, but be the real issue here is not that you see things in the sky. It's what you claim they might be something misguided looks of aware that some kind of alien thing which is what a lot of people assume author and investigative journalist Leslie came most sightings that people have OIC something in the sky. Those kinds of sightings can usually be explained. Planet Venus airplane's comments, shooting stars, birds, you know, let's say 5 to 10% are the cases that any conventional explanation can be ruled out. Those of the cases that are of interest in 2017. Pain co-authored a New York Times story that revealed the existence of believe it or not a secret Pentagon program devoted to studying UFO sightings is a huge revolution to revelation to know that the government took that seriously. There's really banished a sea change of attitude toward this topic is not to say that there is no more ridicule, but it's way less and sure enough in the CBS News poll. Two thirds of Americans say they believe that there is intelligent life on other planets up 10% from 2017.

The time story included links to three videos captured by navy fighter jet pilots 2004 and 2015 with infrared sensors, the Navy and the department of defense have not been able to explain what this thing was with all the work they've done on the Pentagon declined our request for an interview, but offered a statement that said in part, the Department of Defense takes any incursions by unauthorized aircraft very seriously and examines each report as we collect additional data. We expect to close the gap between the identified and unidentified to avoid possible strategic surprise always the biggest question is that Chinese is that Russian could it be their technology and if it is where in trouble because they're way ahead of us. I don't think I've ever spoken to anyone who has seen more reports paperwork photographs interviews as you on this topic. Has there ever been a confirmed extraterrestrial.

We have to say no. We have to say what's confirmed is that we don't know what this let's call it a ship or an object. We don't know what it is we can just say what it isn't and you know you can ask yourself with them. What an of course, the X will become the extraterrestrial hypothesis isn't is a valid one. Maybe it is from some other place in the universe. Note the military secret program was only one 2017 surprise. A muumuu was another muumuu which means scout in Hawaii is something that Hawaiian telescope glimpsed in 2017, just as it was leaving the solar system.

We cannot really chase it is moving faster than any rocket you can produce Bobby Loeb teaches astrophysics at Harvard great until last year he was the chair of Harvard's astronomy department are the discovery of what we have never seen an object from outside the solar system is the first thing is that our object and the rights of private Loeb identified three other strange characteristics of a muumuu first, it seemed to be flat like a pancake. Second, it had no tail as a comet does.

Finally it was accelerating away from the sun as though being pushed and you know about to happen. The Aldrich had to be very thin. Like a Seo reflecting light instead of reflecting the windows. Your final essay bold and baffling visitor to our solar system may find advanced alien patient. So we suggested the perhaps the subject is logical really infarct the sale produced by another position and the first indication that such a civilization exists Loeb's theory didn't win many friends among other scientists, especially when he turned it into a best-selling book, Joe X, salami, i.e. a little bit to stop when you throw the entire scientific culture under the bus because some of us have been thinking about and building instruments to find anomalies for a very long time. My colleagues responded very negatively. I am not convinced it that obvious right about this. You know there are a lot of people here who know a lot more about asteroids that I do. They say look it, you know, it looks like an asteroid, it quacks like an asteroid. It has all the characteristics of an asteroid studies snapshot stack wasn't persuaded by the Navy videos either think about the fact that there are 750 or so satellites out there. We were now whirling around the earth. You know making those photos you find on Google Earth, don't you think they would've found some of the sauces if they were really around. You sound like a skeptic about there being a search for extraterrestrial intelligence, and yet you work for SETI whose mission supposedly is to find yet I have no doubt that there's extraterrestrial intelligence, but it's a different thing to say and not only are they out there, but they've come to visit, but the evidence to my mind is not good Loeb Canaan Shaw stack all agree on one thing that the government and the scientific community should spend more effort and money on the search for alien life is a difficult D refuses to discuss it. I think this should be in mainstream just like we are doing archaeology on earth we can explore archaeology in space in search for possible cultures around anymore next month if all goes well, the Pentagon's UFO research group now called the unidentified aerial phenomena task force will finally go public with the report requested by Congress.

But no matter what that report winds up saying Seth Shaw stack doubts it will change anyone's mind. Is there anything wrong with people believing whatever they want to believe. I don't see too much harmony to be really honest about it. Maybe aliens with it. If they are here. They don't do much right they don't address the national debt they don't cure any disease doing anything except occasionally appear to people in their cell phone videos so live and let live.

Yes, you may get the right attitude, as you've seen the Preakness stakes the second leg of the Triple Crown was run yesterday to great fanfare. But what happens to the horses when their racing days are over. Maraca has found a retirement home for champions because thank you.

It's not often a grown man goes all Google wide over a horse.

But that's just the effect silver charm has on Michael blowing silver charm is without a doubt my favorite blowing his infatuation dates back to 1997 when he watched silver charm when the Kentucky Derby but it wasn't until the scallion retired 17 years later that blowing finally met his equine idol. I can't imagine a happier person on the planet Earth because I get to wake up every morning and Cecil drop you a grace every day. Every day in 2003 blowing started, old friends, a retirement home for thoroughbred race horses have about 275 acres of most of the more than 240 horses are donated and live on this sprawling Georgetown, Kentucky farm.

It's a place where blowing says they can return to being themselves. One of the horses do all day whatever they want whenever they want. All residents are treated equally here from those that never made it inside the winners circle just some of racing's most celebrated speeds Breeders' Cup winter alphabet soup spends all his time with a donkey named gorgeous George former star sprinter green mask now likes to nip at people a nice bayberry while were saying nice things about little silver charm likes to hang out with blowing keys old friends is an official mascot unit champ you are old friends draws human champions to Hall of Fame jockey Chris McCarron has written several of the horses here, but he's got a soft spot for touch gold boy silver charms quest for the Triple Crown. McCarron wrote touch gold in the 1997 Belmont stakes spoil silver charms shot at the Triple Crown crown. I just get the biggest kick out of the fact that touch gold and silver charm or just a paddock away from each other wonder they ever reminisce here. I think the only competition now is going after Michael's carrots in all residents here have earned more than $241 million on the track plus blowing says hundreds of millions more from stud duties. The monetary value of a horse disappears last time it crosses the finish right or the last time you are so breeding should you but not for you know that to me Dr. life begins look at you but the 74-year-old wasn't always this doting have you always love horses know was afraid of him. I only like horses because I like to drink and gamble blowing was a movie critic for the Boston Globe when a colleague invited him to a local track.

Eventually he started moonlighting there but never got paid. I did stalls in life took care of the horses. We leading a double life. Yes, I would get to the track around quarter six I got to the globe by 930. I trade my closing shower knife like Larkin. After more than two decades of the paper, it was time for blowing winds second act. He and his wife Diane white celebrated globe columnist took buyouts and headed south.

By this time I follow with the horses it at the track because you know they try so hard.

Even the ones that are very successful and sometimes at the end of their lives are not treated as wildly as they should be the dark side of racing made headlines around the time old friends was starting in 2002 Ferdinand the winner of the 1986 Kentucky Derby was reportedly sent to slaughter. The idea the cost way like Ferdinand story brought attention to old friends mission blowing says it was still a rough start. Do you think in the beginning a lot of people that you went to with this idea looked at you like a poor guy doesn't know what he's doing.

You I would hear people I would walk away. I could hear the background. These days no one is laughing about 20,000 paid to visit each year. Horses run their my idols volunteers help the staff with everything from chores to providing medical care for the past eight years of veterinarian Brian Wooldridge has helped take care of these elderly equines alphabet soup just turned 30 I think these older horses.

They lose body condition of above loss of the their energy but are really happy with. I have it on good authority that you've never presented this place with a bill, why not. I just don't think you should latest volley.

The price for liberalism. Earth is doing good deeds and new artists over to the horses Michael blowing says he owes these horses to even after they're gone.

There's 112 grades here. I remember you chores individually.

What made it unique you still gamble. Oh yeah can't wait Sundays. I tell people I'm going to travel, don't bother me, but for Michael blowing old friends has paid out in more ways than he could've imagined. You are doing what you love. How many people in the United States of America can wake up every morning and say this is great. The horses tell you to relax, take it easy. Don't worry about it.

Things will work out and so far so good, and you can still drinking gamble. Yes Sundays is rusted and something arrested and hopefully came out of exactly right. The Secret Service can't afford to fail even once in its mission to protect the president and other top officials, which means there is no ignoring some of the charges in our next story reported by Jim Axelrod. It was all very plain to see you on January 6 the valor of the Secret Service agents protecting VP Mike Prince so the bravery is pretty amazing when they find a way to surreptitiously leave as people are tromping through the building. Rioters in various amounts of war gear but as Pulitzer prize-winning Washington Post reporter Carol Lennox spells out in her new book about the Secret Service zero fail. There was another darker side to the agency on display that day as well. There are a lot of members Secret Service presidential protection division who cheer on that riot on the Capitol grounds in social media posts. Many of these people shared their views, explaining that the election was rigged. Donald Trump has been denied his fair and rightful second term. This dualism says Winick heroism on one hand scandal. On the other is been the story of the deeply troubled agency during the last decade.

Time and time again. The Secret Service has chosen to cover up the problem rather than fix that this is a great agency with unbelievable patriots, but it needs housecleaning and needs help the modern Secret Service is less than 60 years old. Consider that in August 1962, Pres. Kennedy could sneak away from his detail during a weekend in Santa Monica. Go for it. Dip on a crowded beach ballot boxes, three shots were fired up president, the motor good in downtown Dallas. Dallas changed everything. Pres. Kennedy died at 1 PM central standard time. JFK's death was a gut punch to the country like no other.

But if you think it was bad for the country. You have no idea how bad it was for the Secret Service. They rebuild that agency. They made it so rigorous.

As a result of that tragedy. The training and protocols of the post Dallas Secret Service seems Pres. Ford from not one but two assassination attempt in 1975 and prepare you to take a bullet meant Pres. Reagan in 1981.

There's no more heroic image of that to McCarthy on the day outside the Hilton when John Hinckley shoots Ronald Reagan to McCarthy. What is he do he throws up his chest to take it. But critics say that urgency has been eroded by insufficient budgets. Ever since the Secret Service was absorbed by the Department of Homeland Security in 2003 Secret Service hires phenomenal people they need to hire more of former agent Jonathan WAC grow was with the Secret Service for 14 years. The redheaded stepchild might get them more money every tool to be successful, do more with more don't do more with less. From 2009 the 2014 WAC grow served on the details protecting Pres. and Mrs. Obama which gives him insight into another problem plaguing the Secret Service that more money can't address culture lacking transparency and accountability. On November 11, 2011, a man fired a rifle with the White House striking the building seven times the Obama's war at home, but their daughters were despite agents reporting gunfire lending rights. They were told by superiors to stand down Secret Service leadership initially told no one about the regions not the public. Not even Pres. and Mrs. Obama.

Thankfully didn't have a tragic outcome, but afterwards nothing. There was no way let's get everybody together and let's review what happened. But how could there not be. The Secret Service is the best organization in the world in crisis management. If they can't manage themselves as an embarrassment but you have to learn from it. The embarrassments continue. The next year 12 Secret Service agents were sent home from Cartagena, Columbia River doing advanced work for presidential trip. They were drunk. Some had prostitutes in the room were agents had plans for Mr. Obama's visit. A huge security risk is very troubled agency, particularly overseas would put themselves as being compromised when you really have questions about leadership. Michael Chertoff oversaw the Secret Service as Sec. of Homeland security under Pres. George W. Bush. He was out of government. When Cartagena took place but still found it painful not only embarrassment and engage in this kind of illicit activity doing foreign countries really risk operational secured teaching can be a wake-up call. This wake-up call would also go unanswered. Two years later in 2014. A man with a limp, wearing crocs and armed with a knife, jumped the White House fence and made it all the way to the foot of the stairs leading to the private residence in alarming and dangerous breach with deficient follow-up should be hot will turn this to see what are the lessons learned, because three years later, it happened again you have the second jumper. So where was the hot wash while that's a good question.

I don't know if there was a hot wash or just assume she's nobody got hurt. No big deal. That's really tempting. Many of the agents told me we are succeeding by luck. We have great energy, great dedication but were lucky that this hasn't happened and luck can't be a policy that's right absolutely the idea that the meta-women of the Secret Service are not given the support resources or leadership to do their jobs effectively. Secret Service is an agency in trouble, unwilling to examine its own issues is an alarming set of allegations. We made multiple requests here at Secret Service headquarters for the agency to respond. They declined our request for an instead they provided a statement. US Secret Service is aware of the newly released book which rehashes past challenges. The agency overcame and evolved from the agency. Skilled workforce is dedicated to the successful execution of its critical missions. That statement, in your view needs one more sentence needs one more sentence that says however, we are going to undertake a mission reassurance review that's what's going to make you do something better. It's the after action.

The leadership became more frightened of letting people know how bad it was behind the curtain. The agency has demonstrated remarkable valor and bravery. But it hasn't demonstrated transparency now it doesn't really like that word but without it letting says the Secret Service will continue to function with a capacity inadequate to meet its mission and its duty shielding itself with the fact that since Dallas they been successful in the only way that matters. I don't criticize the men and women who are dedicating their lives to this and we have to be able to look closely at how they're being shortchanged the way in which were not really letting them be able to do their job and deliver on the promise they made in your book are you detailing the exceptions or the rules. They are symptoms of something larger going on behind-the-scenes and if these failures can happen. It's just a matter of time. Should we pay attention before that happens. Should we do something before that happens is to take out with Rachel Garrett this week Stephen Law ally of Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm monument list for me to Senate races where you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed with Nevada not Georgia.

Georgia is right up there, but New Hampshire is a surprise.

The New Hampshire people really just kind of don't like that you have for more from this week's conversation, follow the take out with major Garrett on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. It's Sunday morning on CVM. Here again is Jane calling you all you and McGregor one. Ray: the 2001 film Moulin Rouge now in his latest role he's playing a legendary and most fashionable man about town.

As he explains in conversation with our Tracy Smith.

You live in the last century, very likely saw touched or wore something from health White House with the New York maker designed box Jackie Kennedy wore to her husband's inauguration and went on to build an international fashion brand Houston with friends like Andy Warhol and Liza Minelli embodied what it is like to be rich and famous disco era New York City fish changed the face fashion. If only he'd lived my whole life story with all of the dazzling drugs and debauchery in a five-part Netflix series to feel that everything you have could disappear in an instant with you and McGregor in the title role. So US is now yeah live here yet. The 50-year-old Scottish born actor says paying Halston required a lot more homework than usual. See you develop this kind of delving into the archives, but you also learned how to drape fabric to an extent a little bit I mean is quite not great are you would take a single piece of cloth and turn into beautiful dress just if my hands didn't look like they knew they were doing. It would give me away, so I would practice and practice and practice myself and try not to prick the person was draping you McGregor seems born to the role that this one was something of a struggle. In fact, he says every acting job gives him the shakes beginning of every project are very nervous and them over the last two weeks before you start something I am always a wreck like just thinking this is the one I can't do this I would be able to do it.

I always go through a period of great fear before. Seriously, every time the fear is unbelievable the night before. I'm no home going practicing how to do it.

I don't do that. I wanted to happen from the camera because I don't that's how it's always been really lazy. It's not lazy might be laziness in a minute work. Choose life.

She's a Job he's made a few things work in 1996. His turn as a heroin addict in the film Trainspotting Star in the films that followed 2001 Moulin Rouge showed his impressive ring career came 2017. The Trainspotting SQL does an accounting course or for small business was just fantastic to be back with them again 20 years later, but it's a really thoughtful beautiful foam in its own way to so there's another character that you had a chance to return to what it feels. Nicely done.

Here McGregor is reprising his role as Obi-Wan Kenobi in this Star Wars saga, this time for TV series much about it yet if you like to correct the beard again on the cloaks will always have a beautiful not working because I just like to be much enjoy shaving cream. It's been great to come back to this been really exciting what you like seriously what if you like to put on the cloaks might not be cloaks. You can even say that there may or may not be cloaks. I'm not saying I come back to play him again. Obi-Wan Kenobi is been absolutely brilliant and I'm really enjoying it, but it's not always easy to live in this Star Wars fan will intense mostly knocking this comment set off an avalanche of speculation about what comes next for a while you had to sit on even saying that were coming. People been asking you about this for almost 2 decades, every interview I did you New Year's people would say well on it is true of the rumors true not have to solve have to lie say well you know I don't know I be happy to play him one day. Again, this keepsake start looking like I was asking the Disney for a job like every interview will be happy to play him again.

You know that was just a way of life trying not to be dishonest by the same time not telling the truth quite a relief race the cat out of the bag house is a house for McGregor playing Holston was another kind of challenge for much of his adult life. Stan was battling different kinds of demons like addiction and that's one that you and McGregor. Once face down himself. Last we spoke, you spoke about your sobriety and I'm wondering watching Holston to do you think that your sobriety has helped you see these people who are struggling with drug use in a different way understand them a little bit more. I understand the understand addiction and I'm I'm not judgmental about it. You know, because I because I've walked that path for so many years and is very cunning on your will. It will you will absolutely live in denial, you know, people, people can't see it so holsters Halston going to studio 54 every night and doing coke and on his thought unit was businesses in that terrible trouble, and yet he still good. I don't problem I can stop anytime I like to know. I understand that for all his complexities. Halston clearly loved being Halston and McGregor loved being Halston, but he seems to love being you and McGregor to Halston liked being famous yet.

Do you yeah yeah I do very honest answer. Yeah.

Live and learn the new you know you do with it when I was 25 years old post Trainspotting dealt with very differently than I do know how just I think you can to become carried away with no carried with it. I don't know what you mean. I really don't well because of you. If you're focusing on fame. If you think famous gray and you will then doesn't really lead you anywhere is road to nowhere.

You know you never wake up and be famous enough for you and you will if that's what you're striving after I do know I'm very satisfied. I like it like it, so this is not in that side of things you learn that that's actually what makes you happy is the is striving to do the best job he cannot work and no feeling that you're so dogging it or phoning it in and then that feels pretty good. Benjamin Crump is a civil rights attorney who is at the heart of the black lives matter movement. He talks this morning with our senior contributor Ted Koppel. There is nothing shy, retiring about attorney fees from zone media attention as he acknowledges the central weapon is to believe when you represent a marginalized minority in America, especially a black citizen that you are providing to courts yet. The first five in the court of public opinion, and then if you win there, then maybe just maybe you might get to fight in the court of law and get the consequences. So the picture "surrounded by cameras is become familiar recurring. There was family wait for Jeff but it's an image that began taking hold in 2012, when he sought compensation for the family of a 17-year-old high school student who was visiting his father when he was shot and killed walking through his neighbor wasn't there law enforcement tap into Damon and blame the victim Crump seared an image into the national consciousness of crave on Mark wearing a hoodie carrying a can of iced tea and a bag of skittles 5 Sunday Look Like Trl. out the trailer Martin. It was Michael Brown of Ferguson has no shoe Cory Jones Marquise McGlothlin Terrence Crutcher both Joan Stephan called Alisha Thomas and then we come to 20/20, which pandemic where everything is shut down Excel Excel implicit by simply tell it in America is mom Barbara Lynch for jogging while black. The embryonic Taylor is keel in the sanctity of her own home, and John's floor is tortured to do right out the George floor, Rayford Pellerin, John Kinsey, Jacob Blake Junior Anthony McLean, a black male who ran out of his shoes, would you look at the please Brautigan video Andre you, they continue the kill black people over and over again in each of these cases chrome and his associates negotiate or litigate the financial settlement for the victim or more often the case, the surviving relatives that pay you.

You sure surgery and I can almost hear the city manager on the sure and the police should loosen all blank Crump shorter, you've got that kind of reputation, where undefeated with every case that we have represented up family in a police brutality matter. We've even gotten the verdict or settlement. Unfortunately these police have a go to prison. 51.

Been Crump is in his prime, long before he achieved national prominence. Crump looked for clients wherever he could find people have to get into the chosen lane of their profession sometimes but doing things that the notice when you start.

Folks will use terms like ambulance chaser certainly is not a term I expect you to like for think people say a lot of things even to this day, personal faith, and I know who I am whose I am an no matter where people strive to me. I'm okay with it because I am fully focus on what my mission is to his very self unapologetic defender of black life black liberty and black humanity and that's why I am proud to call myself a civil rights lawyer who believes that it's about these romantic notions of liberty and justice for all. Today you can use the clinch sure you're looking to be a friend of the future of not at all that might be more impressive what you just said if you were doing pro bono.

If you were making a lot of money and I know you're not making money off the people you represent when the city of Louisville ended up paying $12 million for Brown Taylor you go 30%. We hear about 1/3 of Miramar cocounsel's yes that's a whole water carriage where I would tell you to the police brutality vision of my law firm is the lease profitable about visions of my law firm Evergreen Taylor.

There is a black people and brown people who have been killed by the police unjustifiably that you don't make a P&L, but you take the case because it's the right thing to do.

We do not believe one third of the settlement should be pointed out is the industry standard in such case, this is the case of excessive projects. More than a hint of the late Johnny Cochran, who famously won O.J. Simpson's acquittal doesn't fit you must equip if I should your account of the letter dated Johnny Cochran, would you consider that a compliment or a bit of the survey to complement Johnny Cochran was one of the giants of the legal profession, especially amongst African-Americans. However, I would be more find the notion of my personal hero my Northstar who is Thurgood Marshall. I've tried to follow the trail that he blazed as much as possible.

Thurgood Marshall, a dazzlingly bright Northstar appointed as the first African-American associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States somehow been Crump leaves an impression of harboring an even more ambitious goal. He wants to end what he calls the legalized genocide of colored people in this country. Genocide is very particular legal term with a very particular legal definition you're a lawyer stem the power of words and when you accuse the United States and the 21st-century genocide that has a lot of weight exactly when you think about black people have been suffering for 400 years in America since 1619, wherein the first enslaved Africans were brought to America. I would argue that legalized genocide when you think about how the very laws that are supposed to protect this are being used to kill us. When you think about what happened in every city in every state in every courtroom in America every day there killing African-Americans there killing marginalized people, using the law where that is killing them physically or is killing them legally with these truck.felony convictions sorting through the accumulation of mail with his Tallahassee headquarters, Crump continues to convey the impression of a man in constant motion when he goes to visit an old fraternity brother.

He brings his young daughter with her tile. We always pick her up from school because she soon there you George Clinton familiar to an older generation is the father of funk, rock, leader of the band Parliament funkadelic's unabashed mother about all the black Americans. Atty. Gen. but I'm also an attorney for my friend, brother George Clinton. He's been painting a tribute to giants of the civil rights movement and there's been a lot of change. One day, is afraid of running out of time. My recurrent nightmare that I'm running out of time. I can't keep all with the hashtags I made this just happened too quickly, you worry about surviving. You're worried about your security. I never take death threats for granite when we get them to report them to the FBI more than I would like more like I know that some people could do extreme things because they don't think that we should have equal rights. Enemies of equality as I called them. I believe God has a purpose for me and if fulfilling that purpose.

Then my life would not have been in vain do believe there has to be some things that a man is worth dying for, and the future of our children to me is worked for you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning. No streaming progress and crazy time once final point is when people in the best way to protect people final season Millstream exclusively on