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Jane Pauley hosts a special "At Home" broadcast. In our cover story, David Pogue looks at what has been fueling the exploding real estate market. Martha Teichner sits down with Ben and Erin Napier, of HGTV's "Home Town"; Anthony Mason interviews David Crosby, Stephen Stills and Graham Nash about their timeless music. Kelefa Sanneh examines the ordeal of homelessness in America. and Lee Cowan travels to Whittier, Alaska, where the majority of residents live under one roof.

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I'm Jane Pauling and this is a special edition of Sunday morning our home issue, the pleasures and promised possibilities of life at home, we found a nice place to call home this morning. The Lyndhurst mansion in Tarrytown, New York, just up the Hudson River from New York City 19th century escape from city life in the early days of the pandemic.

So many people fled life in the city and discovered they could work wherever they want and live just about anywhere they desire. It's been given the name the great reshuffling as David Pogue will report in smaller cities all over America something crazy was going on in real estate.

This market is sizzling burning up on fire. It is amazing and if you're selling your house you're sitting pretty. It was around 65,000 more than asking price coming up on Sunday morning. Meet the winners and losers in the great reshuffling essay. Home is where the heart is. Martha Tyson has met two TV renovation stars whose hearts are in their hometown there hit Hg TV show is made them big time in the sitters for saving small town America story of redemption story and every single house and people need that people need to feel hope were there to visit Laurel, Mississippi hometown of Erin and Ben Napier Sunday morning song. Our house is an old to home and hearth release just over 50 years ago by the group. Crosby stills Nash and Young will be looking back with Anthony Mason is just over half a century ago was super released one of rocks allowable. How would you describe the period of record chaotic.

You talk about how you guys, but has old what was glancing blows, but there were continuous inductance in your skull and return calls Crosby stills and Nash remember joining up with Neil Young to record déjà vu later Sunday morning, Lee Cowan visits a building that holds the whole town and caliph SNA talks about homes with the homeless and more on this special Sunday morning at home will be back in a moment of living and working from just about anywhere become reality for many during the pandemic.

David Pogue has been charging the great reshuffle Boise Idaho is a great place to live. It's got natural beauty. Great weather and friendly people.

But wow is something going on with the real estate is this your house. Alicia Figueroa recently sold her house here in the experience was incredible, had over hundred and 50 people walk through in two days, which is pretty mind blowing had nine offers half of those for cash and I'm still here because the buyer is allowing me to live here for five months rent free. Are you willing to share how much more than the price finally went for it was around 65,000 more than asking price that really it was even more than the money they also didn't require any kind of inspection or an appraisal.

They paid all the closing costs and you know this is, this was not an unusual offer. If you contact me today and said I'm looking at buying somewhere in the Boise greater treasure Valley. I'd say put on your gear. Buckle up. Colby Littman owns homes of Idaho real estate agency that his mother Debbie founded in 1990.

This market compared to the other hot markets in the past is sizzling burning up on fire. According to the real estate website Zulu home values in Boise have shot up 32% in the year. The biggest increase in the country. Real estate in Boise was already thriving, but the pandemic superheated. That trend, thanks to the remote working movement that came with it.

There's people deciding what I want to land I can keep my job and live anywhere. So what I want to live. This is a nationwide thing that's happening this great reshuffling of people. He's right. Smaller cities all over America are seeing a similar boom just ask real estate pros like Patrice McFadden in Durham, North Carolina in racing tens of thousands even hundred thousand dollars above list price or Lori Finkelstein reader in Miami Florida go to an open house.

There could be cars yes 50 50 cars in a line outside waiting to see that property or Joseph Tim Bureau in Fort Lee, New Jersey 34 years. Unbelievable. Thomas Brown in Austin, Texas market was $460,000.

Our clients that will be will buy this house. We will by the sellers next house in the 700s on the home offered to buy the sellers next it was. Except you guys going this term. The great reshuffling. What does that mean more people moving work has allowed us to really wrap our work around our lives as opposed to our lives around our work. Amanda Pendleton is the home trends expert for solo whose website had 9.6 billion visits in 2020, up 19% from the previous year.

The pandemic really accelerated some trends that we are seeing prior to the pandemic. People are moving to Metro set off a relative affordability and year-round outdoor living and were they moving from seeing a shift away from really expensive coastal Metro area to some of these more affordable metros in this Wall Street Journal animation yellow dots show the flow of people out of California. In 2022 of those dots might represent Dustin and Brenda Hough who use Colby Littman's agency to find their new home in Boise like 20% of all Littman's clients. They bought this Boise house without ever having seen it in person but had only a video tour at what point do finally walking after he signed the papers in case what sent you here from California. My company is amazing and allowed me to work out remotely somewhere that was a little more little more our style. Is there any pushback among the locals to seal the California's movement to your face.

No, but you conversations and stuff you'll hear some people are pretty unhappy and a little locals fortified more in those locals include Joey and Lauren changes who stopped by at this open house with 60% of Boise homes selling for more than the asking price they're getting discouraged.

My wife and I and we have our little son hours try to move the very closer schools and there's no way we can afford it to hard-working people. Hard-working family having a house or yard fence should be something doable. Plus there's a question about Ken Boise handling traffic. Absolutely we are friends now that are finally having like an hour long commute on what you gonna do so in a way he may be waiting a long time. The great reshuffling shows no signs of slowing. For one thing. Mortgage rates are at rock bottom lows, and for another, according to solos Amanda Pendleton, the country is experiencing a kind of generation clash millennial the largest generational group in the country and into their home buying years worth. Meanwhile our healthier living longer anyone age in place. So we've got yields competing with baby boomers looking very similar types of homes smaller more affordable starter homes and send. This is what's really driving unrelenting demand that we expect to see in the market for many years to come. For now Alicia Figueroa is packing up the house she sold. She is one of the winners in the great reshuffling really does sound like you are in exactly the right place exactly the right time. Like Boise 2021 can be anything.

Homes are private spaces, not museums, but Mark Phillips in London walks us through a museum. That's a collection of homes. There is a 300-year-old role of townhouses in London, where they know all about how the home has changed over the years. Today, this building is the Museum of the home with her just getting ready to reopen after three-year refurbishment and just-in-time. There have been a better time for the home to reopen the printed time for us to be talking about because around the wound people up. He looked down which means the people been thinking more intensely about domestic spaces than ever before. So you solitary is the museum's director what were looking at here drawing room 1915 says Yep. So this is a suburban family home. Sonya oversees the exhibits that re-create the spaces we've lived in over time. This one goes back to the 1600s, and they continue through the technological and social changes that have brought us to today from the arrival of the knife and fork to electricity to television to the home computer. Sometimes the journey has been more of a circle than a straight line back to the future. We like to think you know that we've invented everything and now we think this whole idea of working from home.

The home office is a brand-new thing is know if you look back at the house. Suddenly, in the UK 1600s in an environment very light show will conducting business from you hold space you haven't got around the home office room yet know about talk that I lie with the 1630s dogs talk about the 1630s yet yet I absented the home office today. Of course, would be possible without the connectivity that started with the phone. Yes, the fight over say they started to come into the hype of the 1870s and think our lockdown lifestyle was a new thing. Look at what's next to it. A restaurant menu when Takeaway started to come in the 1970s and could go out for the technical and that shopping from home thing that's not new either. Remember the mail-order catalog that started to really blossom in the 19th century huge made STATES came to the UK very quickly how we lived how we cleaned tells the story of the pain and pleasure of house was partly about what use the machinery stuff, but it's also supposed yet. One of the stories we tell differently the gender division within #8, which is still unresolved. The rooms tell our history, the suburban living room.

The bachelor pad. The loft apartment. This is part of the trend for combating industrial buildings in New York and London in the eighth place like this give you a sense of perspective history, it's always it's always changed yet. I think it's always changed that's always been challenges and the home is evolving, not just through time, but it week to week that today how you might think I'm in the morning might be different how you think about it is he thinks I home is constantly evolving from the last award home includes not just our family home, but also our hometown. True enough for the TV renovation stars Martha Teicher has been watching. We live you small town in our town is seen hard to change in one house is again. So one reason why of hometown on Hg TV pilot and same and it was on TV and it was 2.2 million people watched it there was a snowstorm on the east meaning active audience, but it wasn't a fluke. Five years later, Erin and Ben are Hg TV superstars that we want to make this a home invasion child but also a romantic comedy, sweaty, around the love story about and about possibility rural Mississippi population 18,000 or so like so many other small towns had been hollowed out Erin a graphic artist grew up in Laurel, she moved back with been a furniture maker when they got married after college I don't like to be told what I can and cannot.

I don't like to be told that you cannot have a professional art career. Tomorrow Mississippi. I don't like to be told that the place ran from his dad.

It is interesting in its creative and unusual and I wanted to share that with the world.

All but one of the second building was renovated in Laurel with new restaurants and shops opened in what had been fronts including gilding gentry, stylish, clubby men's store barber chair in the back for me and my friend having a shop in downtown we could go regular man's character was right. A dream come true for the store's owner, Caroline Burks, Cory, she is another Laura light who came home to a town daring to reinvent itself. I jokingly tell Torres that Laurel had a 10 year plan, but the show helped compress that into 3 to 4 years.

Tourists yes tourists thanks to the Bennett factor is because the joy their personalities on TV what they're doing down she wanted just see yourself. We just got here and all because and Aaron. We love what is it that you think makes people like you and your show. Happy place and they feel invested in Laurel in the story here and I think they see something universal maybe plastering different 5000 submissions, which is how it happened that Hg TV created a hometowns call hometown take over the huge undertaking but will people should feel a renewed sense of hope and what can happen when it premiered on May 2 million sought to those struggling women's boutique trend. What happened next. Less than 24 hours.

The entire website was sold just got out of the box sold in the store was so busy with her was swamped with the mass I could not hold back the tears. My shop can survive now back in Laurel Benton division very pregnant and her race to finish shooting a new season of hometown before their second child was born. They were about to show Donell Thornton done to her home on her $60,000 budget. Welcome to the farmhouse, my God, the reveal really is a surprise and didn't turn out the way you thought it would turn out are completely different.

It turned out better for Erin and Ben Napier. There's more to the story than the happy ending. We hope that it is about small and not backslashes.

We love love a great backslashes is take out with preacher Gareth this week.

Stephen Law alive.

Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm monument list for me to Senate races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed with Nevada not Georgia.

George is right up there, but New Hampshire's products New Hampshire people really just don't like that you have for more from this week's conversation, follow the take out with major Gareth on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts strolling around your hometown without ever step outside Lee Cowan found some townspeople with no need to imagine we will ask about 60 miles from Anchorage is both beautiful and yet gritty. It's wild, but to me it's accessible but also very yet unit was strangled by him because there's only one way unit one whale for everybody. It's not the path to Whittier goes straight total board for more than 2 miles of solid rock tunnel shuts down, leaving him to you know you thinking only of the tunnels on way out one third of emergency or something.

I can't get out.

You also had to get used to his address, Lee Shuford from North Carolina now lives on the 12th floor of what some describe as wilderness power. High-rise does seem out of place here, but what's even more surprising is that the baggage towers is officially called is about the only place to live. We people think it's weird is the where the city of Alaska.

It really isn't one word I would say it's magical just in their view. Dave Dickerson is what hears me key.

His wife Anna and their 18-year-old daughter Janessa say they have almost everything they need right here cozy corner grocery store is stocked with essential post office notary church old Justin right away. Need all of the big box stores all of the so-called conveniences of large city.

I feel like it's made us better people because you came from a much money you have in the world just here in this town make it work. That said place to have a social life, but is not a lot of single people in their 20s and 30s. Why were about to write your social life, social life, well that's that's probably what you like and that can be a little troublesome and the dating question really dates here because we all grew up together, we a few weeks ago Janessa started posting the building tick-tock and soon had millions of you just about as many questions people ask. I think the readers question that I got was like a cult like I got so many comments on my tick-tock thing looks looks depressing just so nice don't really have time to.

It was built by the military during the Cold War as a no-frills barracks of the inhabitable. No one is going to build a home on property that they don't own 300 or so residents live here, you new families, school yes there is one it's connected to the building by guested another currently has about 50 students ET. It's important to be here for the right reasons. Lindsey Burke moved here from South Dakota to teach no kid in this school is back in the classroom and not something every kid is seen that's what fills my pocket and that's why I want to take care of the room here is for the kids is often made by the teachers and during covert delivered right to the doorstep of students like you, we all can talk too small to function in isolation do you have to be willing to work with each other straight down.

Victor Shen also works with students here and he's also a graduate he was born and raised in Whittier and came back because it's home but don't people understand about your everything is here. Think of all the things I am valuing a community we found that here is home to some it may just be the strangest town in Alaska but residents seems to be the answer to the call of the wild.

We want people to know about Whittier noted unique beautiful place and it's in its own way before you judge 10 Whittier come visit for this Sunday morning. Here again is Jane Pauley. Our house is a very very very fine song released just over half a century ago by Crosby stills Nash and Young this morning.

Reunion with Anthony Mason considered one of the greatest albums of the rock era. What you think of recipes and dog in the bun. Crosby stills Nash and Young recorded déjà vu were you conscious, while you were making the record what you were making sure you heard when you hear carry-on you know what your day record 8 million copies and was intends tragic in many ways, but a really decent Crosby stills and Nash had released their highly successful debut out earlier in 1969. Crosby had come from the bird stills from the Buffalo Springfield and Graham Nash from the hollies stills wanted to add another member. What were you looking to add to the battle you wanted someone I wanted to be able to do what the Springfield water beautiful. I want to be rock 'n' roll as well.

He settled on his former Buffalo Springfield bandmate Neil Young, you were not in favor. I wasn't in favor we had created between me and David and Stephen vocal sound that was completely Nash agreed to meet Joan for breakfast in New York such as why why should we invite you to this Stephen click talk together. Yeah I have been from the band was entering the dark.

Stills had just broken up with Judy Collins Nash's relationship with Joni Mitchell was growing rock and Crosby's girlfriend Christine Hinton had been killed in a car crash. I was in terrible. I was damn near destroyed.

I'm just really lucky we were making that market is a gave me a reason to get up in the morning. Damn right that's what got me locked. How would you describe the period of recording chaotic you talk about how you guys, but heads all the time.

What was glancing blows, but there were continuous inductance in your skull and return calls and Neil Young. The only band member who didn't talk for this story also went his own way in the studio Neil when he joins event is really going to. He made his tracks outside by himself and brought them and we sing which is kind of snotty but they were good. He didn't even perform on either of your songs know another single plate on teaching children the following note, listen to the decent like it's CSN, why started touring in the summer of 69 second would stop if I can get with what struck you, Joni Mitchell be the biggest hit when it was released in 1970 at LA's Morrison Hotel Gallery stills recently signed Prince of the famous cover photo taken by Tom O'Neill is getting very serious, almost the 50th anniversary addition year late because of the pandemic include some memorable demo of leasing house doing was set she started to get an idea of what we went through much for people to make one that made that record may never play together again. How are you all with each other. Stephen O'Neill and I have great talk often we don't talk to David. I don't know I don't expect to be for new hates my guts. One said that Smith but his girlfriend probably do regret you know when the silver thread that connects the band gets broken. It's very difficult to the ends together physically so things that happened to me in David's life.silver thread for the life of me I can't put it back together. He was yes I do.

I do wish I could only because of the loss of the music to comfortable talking about our lives at home.

It's important to consider those among us with no real which is what caliphate has been doing this Pedro has grown used to life on the streets by but he might never get used to being overlooked and people out there on this okay to say no. The story of homelessness is really lots of different stories for Mother's Day and Father's Day work. Everything you just worry about staying alive. The need for help is more is very tough life of the night, and yet the problem seems stubbornly hard to solve. Were all confronted with extraordinary challenges Mike Kaufman, the mayor of Aurora, Colorado wanted to try something different. This was really a way in which I felt that I can understand better. He says he wanted to immerse himself in homelessness per week.

What groundrules did you set for yourself will bring the money or our system wanted don't bring any food so I had a backpack sleeping extroverts arts in the close I know is a cell phone.

I did have a cell phone. He says it served as a kind day after Chris Mike, promise to stay in touch with me as well as a way to reach out to the local CBS station and went undercover among the homeless. Why not do what most mayors would do commission.

Some reports have some meetings. It seems like a lot of things were trying not really working. This was an opportunity for me to sit down side-by-side with people experiencing homelessness and talk to them not as a policymaker really is is one of them and after eating and sleeping alongside some of his homeless constituents. This is not about a lack of shelter is not. It is a lifestyle choice is a very dangerous loss or not solve the problems of people with addictive disorders is all the people that have no real challenges but we will help those that have economic challenges in terms of the four stable housing. I just think that we have to move away from the deserving and undeserving paradigm and really work towards what does the evidence show actually works. Mary Cunningham has been studying homelessness for more than 20 years has been for a long time and increase significantly in the 1970s and we responded by building shelters on any given night, more than half a million people live in shelters and on the streets, but Cunningham says the shelter system only manages the problem shelters were really getting people back to where they needed to be in housing and selling 1990s and early 2000. There was a response to homelessness that was more focused on housing.

The approach called housing first reverses the traditional model, we would say hey let's help you get a job.

We can help get you some use counseling, you need to do all those things. First, we will use housing is the root word and it didn't work. Quite frankly, I know because it's so hard to do those things get a job, work on your mental health problems when you're literally sleeping in a tent. So instead of giving housing second, third or fourth give housing first and not shown to be really successful.

Cunningham measures that success by seeing how many housing first residents remain in their new homes. Over time, her answer 80%. That was the finding in Cunningham study of a program in Denver, which is next door to Aurora where Mayor Mike Kaufman did his own on the ground research why you think that the so-called housing first model can work more broadly understand the notion that housing is so basic to the human condition that if you address that not intent a temper away, but her permanent way that the other things will fall in place. I just don't think that's realistic or not. Washington DC we have to have balance budgets. Cunningham says the problem is perception. If I'm a politician, I would think that one of my first reaction. This sounds expensive housing provides a really significant returns on investment.

So for example, take people were experiencing chronic homelessness moving in and out of shelter there, moving in and out of emergency rooms having interactions with police. All those emergency services really cost a lot of money, but housing first. One study found emergency room visits dropped by 53%.

Arrests and incarcerations dropped by about 58% and the use of emergency shelters essentially ended also participants.

Mental health symptoms decreased by 35% in the number of residents using any drugs fell 37%.

Perhaps the most important finding since the Veterans Administration embraced the housing first program a decade ago.

Veteran homelessness has been cut in half moment list. Does the mother James Santiago served in the military for six years. Lori correlated with the roast would be until 2000 long time didn't know what I was drinking as much levels after living in shelters for three years.

Santiago was placed in a housing first program he's been living in a fully stocked studio apartment like this one since 2012, table, chair, condition, or place to put your stuff in bathroom in New York City where homelessness rates are among the highest in the country. Jericho project is one of the organizations that provides housing and services like substance abuse and career counseling for veterans and other homeless populations. Facility rent rent they pay one third of their income.

Adriana Rodriguez Baptiste overseas programs that Jericho project if they have no income to help them find the urban Institute's Mary Cunningham says it's going to take more advocacy to make housing first widely available as part of the work convincing every day people everyday taxpayers that it's actually a good idea while they are paying their rent every month are paying their mortgage every month to get free housing to some other people some of whom might have problems. Part of it is the error message that people choose to be homeless and I don't think the evidence bears that out when you offer someone a key to an apartment they take that choice the promises.

People just don't have good choices solution is to draw the street is most people think homelessness is something that happens to someone else of their own poor choices. People who experience it firsthand. Still can't quite believe I'm really trying my best to be something a little kitchenette for some of them a place to live. Doesn't seem like the solution to all their problems, but it does seem like a start. The biggest hope is that they'll come when I first wake up in my apartment.

I'm not worried that I'm still on the street in the moment. Home. I'm Jane Pauley enjoyed our celebration of life at home. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning. Crazy time is the point is we need people in the best way to protect people final season Millstream