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On this week's "CBS Sunday Morning," with host Jane Pauley, Luke Burbank talks with Shay Myers, a third-generation Oregon farmer who feels it's important that agricultural workers get their due. Since Prince Harry and Meghan Markle quit as full-time royals, their popularity in the U.K. has plummeted – and Prince William and Kate Middleton have been called upon to fill the vacuum. Correspondent Holly Williams reports on how the House of Windsor is trying to counter the Duke and Duchess of Sussex's narrative in the media with a new charm offensive by the family. Attorney Ted Olson, a star in conservative legal circles, has argued 65 cases before the U.S Supreme Court, but his stance has not always reflected traditional conservative doctrine. Olson talked with Mo Rocca about overcoming polarization, and about his marriage, which demonstrates that opposites attract. The host of "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert" talks to John Dickerson about returning to the Ed Sullivan Theater to perform before a live, vaccinated audience, something he had not done in 460 days.

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Life is for living. Let's partner for all of it. Learn more@edwardjones.com I'm doing Pauley and this is something morning breakfast, lunch or dinner. America's bounty of food is rich and varied, but there's plenty of hard work behind that bounty for too many of us, it's a case of out of sight out of mind this morning. We look at America's army of immigrant farmworkers who is Luke Burbank tells us our unsung and undervalued, but essential ingredients. Farmworkers are the hardest working lowest paid and yet most vital workers in America.

According to farmer Shea Meyer every single meal that we eat every single person has required effort by someone in the fields and Meyer says we got to rethink how we treat these often invisible people as human beings. How can we argue against them. Being able to have the same opportunities that we have taken a trip down to the farm coming up on Sunday morning this past week Stephen Colbert one yet another Peabody award. The awards committee site work that quote powerfully reflects pressing social issues some serious business for Stephen Colbert to discuss with our John Dickerson welcome. Thank you someone else's labor. The renovated supply closet is one of the places where Stephen Colbert taped his TV show during the pandemic. There's absolutely no way that I want to be able to hide how weird this feels what's this being back in this room. The city is coming.

But now people are back in his theater and the laughter here of black Woodstock when new Sunday morning contributor wash you told us we just had to do this story we listened and I think you'll be glad we did 1969 or dislike + the fifth dimension performed for some 50,000 New York, Harlem. Why haven't we heard of this festival number one question always had was like way to meet your trying to tell me that for 50 years. No one was interested coming up this Sunday morning music festival that was left out the history books. The British press is reporting Prince Charles won't meet with Harry when his son returns to England this week to unveil a new statue of Diana Holly Williams will examine the ever deepening royal family feud Princess Diana 60 days Thursday and you statue in London will honor her life and bring together the divided sons unveiled this week. A lot of the people I speak to remain recent dollars field pretty badly scarred by the laws couple of years. Scott, yes, God actually that they're very happy. Head on Sunday morning. How a family argument has exposed the challenges facing Britain's monarchy maraca is in conversation with famed attorney Ted Olson along with Steve Hartman and more on this Sunday morning 27 June 2021 and will be back in once again the farmers of America are facing a summary of labor shortages, even as thousands of farmworkers are refused entry into this country and is Luke Burbank tells us some farmers have had enough. You still haven't finished your role you're kind of slow over here all my work on something unusual happened a few months ago in an asparagus field on the Oregon, Idaho, 6000 people showed up on a Saturday for the chance to pick some free veggies, family, community, surgical to see so many people out here and you know it's hard and I'm 80 years old so some needed the food. Some just wanted to get outside on a spring day, but most had never picked asparagus before but looks like your which is where Shane Myers came. You want to cut deep enough so you don't need anymore feel the dirt fell over Myers, the farmer whose family owns the field had been sleepless for days and getting ever more agitated on tick-tock.

I understand the occasions what's going on at the border, and the lack of labor that we have in this country agitated that he couldn't hire enough people to pick the asparagus crop.

Some hundred and $80,000 worth. So instead of throwing it away gave it away and created a viral moment. I put it out there with the idea. I think we thought we got five or six people we never thought like 6000 was even in the realm of reality. Myers says that one day cost him and his family there entire asparagus profit for the year, but that's what can happen when you're reliant on an increasingly scarce labor force coming in from Mexico. Farm laborers are so critical to our actual life on a daily basis.

I mean there there picking the food that's on your dinner table that day in April Shea's workers from Mexico were stuck at the border because of a holdup with their visas. The H2 a guest worker program gives agricultural workers temporary visas to come from abroad, farmers can't find enough domestic work. In case you're wondering Myers farm pays around $16 an hour for farm work hard, work, and culturally as a nation we look down. I think on on fieldworkers and that the type of work gets done in the field. For some reason. And so it's it's it is it's a Catch-22.

Myers and farmers across America are grappling with the fact that it's almost impossible to grow fruits and vegetables without farmworkers.

Myers is a third-generation farmer's grandfather started the farm in eastern Oregon with a single borrowed tractor and some rented farmland after returning from the Korean War nearly 50 years later why he produce as the company is now known, runs a state-of-the-art operation. How many bunions you guys produce in a year. We will produce about 2,000,050 pound bags per year 2 million bags.

2 million bags something in the 200 million onion range saith averting a new basis. That's a lot of onions and every single one of those onions is photographed by this $3 million machine operated by the steady hand of Eliana Ramirez, who does QC or quality control for the farm.

She got her start in the field. I remember I was planting onions and one of my friends calls me into slight hey there's one position open for QC deepening. You can do it.

I was like I don't know because my English is good. Myers convinced Ramirez that she could do it even gave her time off to complete a college degree while she was working there giving me some opportunities that actually I never had another job, they see the qualities that I have before actually discovering by myself. Myers says he feels is important that agricultural workers have something to work towards. As an employer I want people to have a future and I got to know that they have because it's not very rewarding to do your job weeding in the fields or cutting asparagus or pitching watermelons or whatever they might be doing and consider or or think that they have nowhere to go from there back in 1960 when Edward R. Murrow documented the plight of farmworkers in the documentary harvest of shame.

These are the forgotten people under protected under educated under the under migrant workers followed the harvest you want most for your children have a career in these days rose, migrant workers have mostly moved up the economic ladder leaving agriculture to immigrant work with some agricultural economists estimating that in order to get Americans to work in the field. Farmers would have to pay something like $23 an hour before liking their breakfast right now. What are the chances that vegetable that they're having was picked by somebody who isn't legally documented in this country. 90% probably it's it's the majority. If that's not H2 a program in the majority the people doing the work are likely undocumented. I think most people agree with me that it doesn't make sense that we depend on a workforce who can't even remain here legally not easy for the farmers. It's not easy for the workers far from ideal. Diane Charlton is an agricultural economist at Montana State University, studied immigration and agriculture.

There is currently a bill in Congress to try to reform the H2 a program to make it easier for producers to use that program to provide a path to citizenship for those who participate in the program.

Unfortunately, there have not been better solutions for many decades, but reforming H2 a wooden actually help undocumented farmworkers, which Myers says are the majority and are not actually legally permitted to work in the United States as human beings. How can we argue against them. Being able to have the same opportunities that we have for Myers, a self-described staunch conservative. One of the first changes he'd make would be to give immigrant undocumented workers a path to citizenship. They came here with the dream they came here to make a difference for the family they came here to improve their lives. They they put food on the table. They should have a way path to citizenship. There's no question that they should have about the citizenship. The simple fact is that a lot of the food that we eat in this country is picked by people who are often invisible to us. People like Marcella. We caught up with while she was picking asparagus and she had a message for the people watching this story well nothing more than don't berate that if you'd like to come here. We can teach you nothing more.

We just want to come here and work a statue of Princess Diana will be unveiled at Kensington Palace in London on Thursday, which would have been Diana's 60th birthday. It comes Holly Williams explains as Britain's fractured royal family faces an uncertain future new statue of Princess Diana will honor a woman whose congressman compression and rebellious streak revolutionizes legal affairs time that his sons Prince William and Prince Harry have been seen together, Harry and his wife Megan began publicly criticizing the royal family from their new home in California.

The first time was this stilted looking encounter at the funeral if it grandfather print difficult for Harry to make things return visits to the UK following the interview that he and Megan did was incredibly difficult. They are like pariahs in this country. They are treated abysmally by the press.

They criticized left right and send Zachary Aisha has a Rica is a journalist and form a political advisor who says the royal families been damaged by the couple's allegations of racism is a lot of younger people love the people in black and Asian communities look at that. They took that very very passive. They felt really ashamed of the royal family, and quite embarrassed by the royal family is desperately missing Harry and Megan's stock power. William and Kate really being pushed to the fore in terms of publishing, particularly Kate Middleton, I think, will that PR machine behind both families trying to D had William and Kate into the Megan and Harry that trying to base of the rock star light. Kate and William released Hollywood style video to market wedding anniversary. The royal family has never done anything like it before. It was Kate who appeared with First Lady Jill Biden on a visit to the UK this month and Kate is become prolific on colds with the public saying Megan was very very poor and they sucked up a lot of the oxygen and so with them off the scene there is any more attention paid to William K Joni diamond easel royal correspondent for BBC News child little bit little but of course this month reported on Harry and Megan's decision to name then you want to attend daily bets private royal family nickname for the Queen. The couple said the Queen supported it publicly humiliated when a palace source told diamond. She hadn't been asked when I first reported on. I said that is a mark of great love and respect that. I was told slightly different story from palace.

It has no made people feel any better I think on either side of the pond. While the vast majority of British citizens still support the monarchy. Younger people much more sympathy to Harry and Megan, but even more strikingly, the 40% of those aged 18 to 24 now say they prefer to head of state to a recent poll I'm pretty agnostic about the Boyle. I appreciate some people love them and their here, but I don't personally see the need for them or think for some of your life.

The country Jane Wilson is one of the Queen. Subjects who says she could do without her. She's also a public relations guru. We asked her to analyze the new video with ads for an insurance company or or some country living company with at least in part, explicitly done to counter the narrative pushed by Harry and Megan I think will secondly I think it started the third soft power charm offensive for the family for K-12 in particular timely argument is expose the challenges faced by a 1000-year-old institution in the modern world is any doubt there is debate about us about the future of the monarchy and how they worried know if that water they know they have the God-given right to civil forbearance telephone streaming progress and crazy time once final point is we need people in the best way to protect good people is to convict final season Millstream Steve Hartman this morning. The story of something lost and something found fishermen are known for their fish charter boat captains Mark Paisano and Paul Strawser are about one's is all too real. That story really it was catastrophic, imagining what she went through that day is unspeakable really 35 years ago. Paul and Mark were piloting a charter back from Catalina Island off the California coast. When they came across a capsized boat orange like best, bobbing in the waves. Mark jumped and pulled out nine-year-old Desiree Rodriguez, the only survivor.

Her mother, father, sister, aunt and uncle all perished. Desiree had been in the water.

20 hours it was against all odds that she was still coherent and alive. This was the last time: never saw a little Desiree. They've always wondered about her. Okay which is why a podcast or name Phil Friedman invited the men on the shelter marked by his auto along with this rise. Yes sir. So the brims of the roof WERE nearly wide enough to hide the joy 35 years.

Not nearly long race the bond. When I went they brought a lot of closure since then they have stayed in touch. Not long ago: invited just the right who raised her and the rest of her family to take a little trip was Desiree's first time back on the ocean journey that would bring her full-circle. Right back to where it all happened in no the bodies of her father, sister and uncle were never recovered.

This was their first memorial commemoration of the family she lost but also a celebration of the guardian angels she gained you serious ways I feel like you fishermen usually tell stories about the one that got away, but Paul and Mark will always cherish the one who got to stay. He's all yours now it's morning on CBS. Here again is Jane Hawley Stephen Colbert pursuing the serious business of being funny in front of a live studio audience switch from those months when the late show with Stephen Colbert was pretty much a family affair. He's chatting with fan and friend John Dickerson tell me about June 14 nervous yeah very nervous. I was nervous, not necessarily that I would forget how to perform in front of an audience a little bit to go the slightly anxious daughter of the late show with even Colbert returned to his workplace, 400 person Ed Sullivan theater seats had been empty for 460 days ID or than 20,000 requested tickets attendance required proof of vaccination. They were there for much more than just a laugh. The reunion was Amanda Sacco of the smaller reunions among friends separated during the June 14 to do like look out the window and look at the long time for looking out windows. John workingman just your average working man atop a staff of hundreds which during lockdown included his wife at times didn't Colbert's exacting writing, cursing, writing right up and Showtime's first line on reopening night came to him just before he hit the stage I thought was missing here that was just checked with the audit is to set how you been chatting familiar just with you say to an old friend. I don't know if I even remember how to pander to the most beautiful crowded show with Stephen Colbert suspended production on March 12, 2020.

Just a few hours ago I got some surprising news will be going without an audience darting tonight. It was chaos for a performer who needs order. I don't like things to change are all white blueberries level. Wipe down what he tried to kill me. How change. I don't mind changing what I say or what I do, but nothing around me can change glaciers new temporary set. The historic Ed Sullivan my house there soon began taping from his home in South Carolina. This is going very smoothly library became a second camera that I would talking to.

That's the prompter that the tangle Barry listed his three children.

His crew members. Why is my son sitting on a couch over there with a headset on talking to my director back in New York.

Say hi to Jim, I need a mom volunteer from the audience to come up and help me out, but the bulk of the heavy lifting was on the shoulders of every, his wife of 28 years God they go watch the thoughts that psychotherapy or tough love is one my favorite things that happened over the last 15 months I finish one night I went fell down like a tree face down on the sofa. I said I don't know how on earth to keep on this.

You did not say that is looked at me and he said you figured out and walked out of the room I want – is right we did figure it out yes you ever forget that this was your wife know knowing what I do like okay guilty, like the crew had been sat on. He was very nice to me because he wanted me to be cold there was her husband's audience of one and a supporting player experience for you to come back okay good okay let me like my very funny.

I said that's very funny, said you know what you can work a lifetime is and never hear something so satisfying as an audience are saying that we go for the whole people go. That's very funny. Tell another. I can also tell when it would help until the laughter someone great having their kids with us on mother's now know won't know. I mean yes it's sad to think if I could get audience laugh the way Evie laughs. I think I'll be okay and less a few months that the only life I had just confirmed that's really the kind of life I always want something to change my proudest heart heavy.

She still there hello hello Alaska last in August of last year. Colbert then returned to the building with his name on it. I'm back in New York City, she can say look, New York for the first time since March 12 in the historic Ed Sullivan theater's office building, but there was still no live audience for a performer who built a craft around reading giggles and guffaws from the seat that feels all right start off in improv and cabaret and sketch and that's all about relationship to the on special improvisation you train your entire life to do is to get a particular sound from the audience because that's a great thing about comedy is that you know it's working. The audience makes the sound legal all that work in my theater right now. Are you 400 people.

Why argue for me it felt like you were playing catch in a field without some duplicate. I've often talk about the shows game of catch that I like to send the audience that the show for you to. You really do the show with you because their energy makes the show.

The clothes make the man, but the on his next show you ever come down here and just wander around remembering as it was, like many of us returning to what we used to do Colbert carry some portion of the last year and 1/2 with him is that your spot as he encounters the other, like his home state symbol.

This is where to the mall every night. I love it, and nobody's ever noticed no one's around about the right angle, he could certainly see that there were no different than anything about just another reminder of who I am and where I'm from, and now it's a constant reminder of what we did down there reminder of the essentials, even whose routine includes a reminder about the essentials because only have one shot to those and I want to be away.

I set myself in the face twice and my own rule for myself is that I have to stop myself hard enough that I regret having done it. And that means I actually didn't hold back and then I'm awake. I said to myself, don't blow this opportunity you want to go do these jokes you actually like these guests act like it best known attorneys dozens of cases before the United States Supreme Court still with attorney Ted Olson Moraga has discovered easy labels don't apply. When did you first argue before the Supreme Court. When I was in Assistant Attorney General was 1983. Do you remember it vividly. Yes, I remember every word vividly remember the preparation.

I remember breaking my glasses but they before the argument thinking how could this happen to me was it out of nervousness that you wrote you think partially nervousness anybody that argues in the Supreme Court is going to be nervous no matter whether it's your first time or the 50th time you're going to be nervous just as Mr. Olson. UC is now unconstitutional.

Yes, there are several answers to it and I like Bell's model Ted Olson has argued before the US Supreme Court 65 times on some of the most consequential cases of the last quarter-century, making him as close as an attorney can get to a household name that can't be good morning Star in conservative legal circles. Olson California native went to law school at Berkeley, a locus of liberal activism in the 1960s did you feel like an outlier at Berkeley well those of us who are Republicans, which was very small party. I think we were treated quite well most the people thought of us as curiosities. The public came to know Olson when he represented the Bush side in Bush V Gore. We've argued that the Florida Supreme Court overturned the case that decided the 2000 presidential election in George W. Bush's favor. Why did the Bush side when we were right after serving as President Bush's solicitor Gen. Olson left the government in 2010, argued on behalf of the political group, citizens United, we hope the court will come out strongly in favor of the First Amendment right of all citizens, including corporations and union in its ruling, the court struck down limits on political spending and the group's name became shorthand for outrage about big money in politics. High priority would be to overturn United return citizens United at least two subsequent cases, surprised many on the right is a matter of fundamental human rights and human decency first teamed up with David always. He's opponent from Bush V Gore to overturn California's ban on same-sex marriage in 2013. The equal protection of the laws is the protection of equal laws is not something that's partisan or anything like that. It's about American value. The first question we were being asked by people in the media. Why did you come together and that gave us the opportunity to explain what was wrong with this discrimination, and in 2019. The so-called dreamers case. He represented a group of immigrants brought to the United States illegally as children and now threatened with deportation.

I went and spent time with these people and each one hold their story where they came from. When they came to the United States what it would mean for them to be wrenched away from their family or their job and sent to country that they did not know, and I felt very keenly the stories of these individuals and I thought I have got to win this case, one that one too. But his involvement in the dreamers case added to the speculation that the Republican stalwart was going soft like a sale. I had influence on him as a Democrat or as a liberal thinking person in 2002. Olson met lady booth, an attorney from Kentucky and he's political opposite the person picking me up with him. He was one of the attorneys in Bush versus Gore's brilliant tapes in the VHS tape that my closet and she was misrepresenting last night for you had that trial taped I yeah that I was the couple's first date was just a few months after the September 11 attacks, which left Olson widowed the moments before the plane crash. There were phone calls Olson's then wife Barbara, a prominent conservative commentator was on the plane that hit the Pentagon that day Olson made two phone calls to her husband.

She described how the hijackers using my flight instruments herded the passengers to the back of the plane. Her last words to her husband.

What do I tell the pilot to do in the terrible weeks that followed, Olson turned to his mother for counsel. We had lost my father, her husband a few years before and she had immediately started meeting people and dating people and she took me aside and she said Ted is time for you get out and meet people socialize and she said you're young man and I said mom I'm 60 years old and she said I'm 80 I think that the best way of respecting the person that you love them that you lost to get out and live and look how lucky I was 10, and lady married in 2006. They see their mixed marriage is proof that people are more than their party affiliation. She's got her own mind and she's got more law.

The reason I we can talk about some things but I'm not going to try to persuade her of my point of view on maybe where will go on vacation and despite the talk Olson insists he hasn't changed. People look at the chronology of the case is one there's the Ted Olson of Bush V Gore in citizens United is the Ted Olson prop eight in the dreamers case are those the same Ted Olson, well lady will tell you that it's all because of her good good good arguments and the good cases and the noble causes are because of lady where you conservative, then conservative, now I would answer one way I think I've always been a conservative people tend to want to put people in boxes and people overdo the conservative or liberal thing that's now 8010 Olson says he's unlikely to argue another case in front of the Supreme Court, but he still believes that making a good argument is possible without being at each other's throats, something he learned back in college debate class IV of the analysis and trying to understand both sides of an issue and being persuasive on this side and then being persuasive. On the other side that really stretches a mental muscle right I think that's a very good thing for people to do in today's world people are so polarized there's not a lot of time spent trying to think the way the other side thinks or try to express what the other side is expressing and believing. I think it would probably be good for all of us. Thank you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning. This is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA.

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