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On this week's "CBS Sunday Morning," with host Jane Pauley, Kelefa Sanneh dishes up a slice of Americana – pies! Plus: Tracy Smith sits down with filmmaker (and now novelist) Quentin Tarantino; Nancy Giles visits a Brooklyn restaurant training refugees for food service industry jobs; Mo Rocca examines the partisan divide over statehood for Washington, D.C.; David Martin and Charlie D'Agata report on the withdrawal of U.S. forces from Afghanistan; and Faith Salie explores the intelligence of ants.

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2 July 1776 would be celebrated as the day the Continental Congress declared our independence from England. Instead we celebrate on July 4, the day the founding fathers adopted our Declaration of Independence today on our 245th birthday. We remain a nation of immigrants, which is why will begin this morning at a Brooklyn restaurant that you might say carries a torch for people chasing the American dream Nancy Giles has some food for thought more than 100 refugees have gotten a culinary education at MS torch where named after Emma Lazarus who wrote the poem that on the Statue of Liberty. She was a staunch advocate for refugees and we really hope that we can just keep on her good work toward you just learning how to shop in one of man teach me from sautéing to citizenship coming up on Sunday morning.

Tracy Smith this morning is in conversation with the director and Oscar-winning screenwriter, Quentin Tarantino. After a lifetime of making movies.

Tarantino is turning a page. Quentin Tarantino is all about making movies and not much else. But now he's a novelist.

The wife and a baby son who stole his heart can even see his name written on a piece of paper without trying really, what is that about. It's just he's my Leo is my little one will have a chat with QT on his new book and his new life coming up on Sunday morning. They are truly small wonders this morning Faith Salie share some of the lessons we've learned from the lowly animal that builds cities recyclables hitchhike and are not humans give a look down the mighty is not your mother's picnic later on Sunday morning.

Moraga examines the pitched fight over whether Washington DC deserves to be state plus a story from Steve Hartman thoughts on freedom from author Sebastian younger some company for Lady liberty and more. It's a Sunday morning for July 4, 2021 and will be back after this lady liberty lifts her lamp beside the golden door to welcome countless immigrants to the United States at a restaurant in Brooklyn has taken those words of Emma Lazarus to heart. Here's Nancy Giles, the Statue of Liberty has watched over New York Harbor since 1886 the words on her base. Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free have inspired millions to come here in search of the American dream and to lead their nightmares behind why did you come to the United States persecution. Why did you leave Ivory Coast is safe. Daughter asylum-seekers like Fontes Silla and Bruce line up dream off are safe now, thanks to a helping hand from an unlikely place a little restaurant in Brooklyn.

Why did you name it MS torch where named after Emma Lazarus wrote the poem that on the factual liberty. She was a staunch advocate for refugees and we really hope that we can just keep on her good work Carrie Brody founded the restaurant five years ago to empower refugees through culinary education, a noble idea that began with unthinkable tragedy. What inspired you to start this to start MS torch. There is a photo of Alan Carty who is a three-year-old little boy whose body was washed up on the shores of Greece and for many people, myself included, that was a moment of realizing when we talk about this place.

People around the world were talking about that little boy and and for me that was really a moment of reckoning.

What am I going to do to make sure that in some small way or changing story job-training is how she's changing the story.

Students are paid $15 an hour to learn how to cook the 10 week program so far 120 refugees from Afghanistan to Zimbabwe graduated 40 countries and all all are here legally as they await asylum hearings BC that's before coven. The meals were fancier and diners ate inside these days it's takeout on the patio but man the boot is still yummy really from all over the world. You are contracted to hearing a lot of different languages and learn from a lot of different people, almost all fortunately Alex Harris speaks more than the view of those languages so you know he's the top chef and was ready and make sure every student gets the year the our students to describe apron, a notebook sharpie plus of course a chef's knife.

This is your favorite tool as a working students learn the basics, including how to sharpen that knife looking into its beautiful eyes to see if the fish is fresh they should be clear and not very white. One small restaurant to learn more about business and perhaps most important, students learn how to get a job and volunteers coming who work in the culinary industry and are going to be doing practice and when they do graduate students are very much in demand.

Just learning how to chop a one man teach me the Sema bocce rose to become head chef that's 1/2 a James Beard award-winning grocery store in Brooklyn not long ago, she was fleeing the Taliban in Afghanistan. Fontes Silla from the Ivory Coast joint Sema at the hotties right after she graduated. We first met Fontes on zoom last year about better programs will survive both Dr. Astley was would like to go to Christine's a hottie. Whalen runs the store. She says font that is really great at rolling grape leaves.

She's very good with her fingers it up manually.

There's no machine so were delighted.

So just how valuable is an MS torch diploma before coven depending on the time of year we were looking at between 90 and hundred percent job placement rate. Our students are incredible. I in particular suggest that a lot of our students end up in restaurant I can get a reservation to it can certainly be hard to get a reservation at all dead. It's been called the hottest restaurant in Brooklyn is not what helps tell the people chef Greg Backstrom. Ridley has three storage graduates on staff and wishes he had more these cooks than that coming from refugee situations or even victims of torture mean they're coming from other countries. Do you feel like they're taking jobs away from Americans job posting that goes up seriously. That was so little or no and that brings us to Vietnamese pizza was the coolest little versus a dish served up by to bomb a Vietnamese refugee and MS torch graduate who worked at Olmsted right before the pandemic hit back side I make is that put it on the menu is that sealed to have that that item on the menu.

Did you feel like empower you Mr. Stewart July that I haven't tried to call her back but to Fontes are far more important matters on her menu.

She's now an American citizen in my eyes to the happiness of the moment. I have another American dream come true.

Poet Emma Lazarus would be proud. Happy birthday America. We know him as one of our most creative filmmakers but Quentin Tarantino is turning a new page and telling our Tracy Smith all about it was a slow month for us all the big shows, and what you want Hollywood, it seems, was built on books, a little like a mostly good. We all know that the Don was a literary legend. First, all as was Mary Poppins.

In that short jaw always the most important thing in this town when you're making money. So it might surprise you that the book that inspired Quentin Tarantino's epic Once upon a time in Hollywood was actually written after the failed woods. So the movie you may recall, is about an actor in stunt double looking for relevance in late 60s Hollywood. The new book is actually a novelization, a much more detailed version of the script so if for instance you want to see even more of Brad Pitt's character, the book will tell you everything that Tarantino couldn't fit in the film.

So is this home LA got it all makes perfect sense to the author. We met at the movie theater he owns in Los Angeles. When I talk to you in 2000.

No you said you said this to a lot of people that at 60, you're going to switch gears and become a man of letters. I think this has put it to me to do novels so your 58 and your head down that path already yeah yeah exactly without putting it off at 60 I started on. Of course it's been a hell of a ride so far Quentin Tarantino has made nine along the way created some of the most memorable characters in film history from tracksuit wearing male action hero to an unnervingly genteel Nazi villain stood but as QT would be the first to tell you pretty good filmmaking is not the easiest way to make a living. What is it about the literary life that appeals to well.

One nice thing is I spent a lot of time writing my scripts and then when I'm done.

Now I gotta go make a move.

Now I got it casted and we gotta go look for locations and then we go to another place where I don't live in, and we spent six months doing that and it's like this whole process know it's a fun process and is a wonderful way to live a life I'm not making it sound like it's a bad thing. I'm very fortunate to have the situation to do that but the idea of putting your heart and soul into a piece of writing. And then when you're done you're done. That's amazing yet, how did that feel with this book affect*possibly Tarantino might be a first-time novelist, but he's always been a writer. A lot of it in longhand. I write it like that and then I don't type but I that I type it up afterwards. Many you type like this like this just got a SideArm of this of his arm. I'm like oh my goodness that's a long process you be surprised how how how fast you are what I did pick up speed. You want to get comfortable, but not when you gotta take all that junk type it up with one finger is not Shakespeare. You can cut it is my strong police do but his process seems to work both of his Oscars are for best original screenplay. Where does that come from your gift for dialogue I guess would be my memory. I just remember conversations I remember funny things I remember terms and phrases even if a mean you go out to lunch and were overhearing an interesting conversation between the daughter and her mother in the next booth. They say something interesting and it could be nine years from now you'll remember, yeah, I'll remember it as I'm writing this apropos pop it comes back.

Yes, exactly. And it seems he chooses his actors as carefully as his words you are but you charge Bruce Dern played movie ranch owner George Spohn and Once upon a time but Tarantino's first pick was Burt Reynolds who passed away before the film was finished. Did you get a chance to shoot with him know know he will I get a chance rehearsed with I'm officially the last role he played because he came to the script reading so that was that was his last acting. Not only that the night he died what he was doing before he passed on his. He was running lines with his assistant while that's like sad and beautiful the same time it is in a way it has to make you feel good to give him that he was so happy I can honestly say that having a much thing you got happy because of me, but I'm people.

He was happy he was definitely happy when he passed on these days. Guaranteed. Oh, seems to have found his own share of happiness is now a married father of one when we talked last time we talked about relationships and you said I'm all about the movie.

I need to focus on my movie that's all I care about that set. What changed. Well woman I met changed Daniela pick a right. I met her and we fell in love.

She wanted to get married and I did to and so I married. I mean it's pretty incredible because it's something that trumped your ultimate love, the love of the movie absolutely and and she can take away anything from it.

Quentin and Daniela who split their time between LA and her native Israel have a 16 month old son Leo who no surprise already likes watching movies with dad and so I now know officially the first motion picture he's seen as despicable me to the cool thing is here you are sharing a movie with your son and I'm if I talk about it too much already has her crying.

If I talk about it. I I I can't even see his name written on a piece of paper without crying. Really, what is that about. It's just he's my Leo is my little one I just see his name LEO written down, isolated and adjust.

I want to come to him and he just the most charming human being I've ever met my life and so it's like half the time I look at him and I'm just laughing because he so funny in the other time I'm just bursting into tears and those are both great yeah my whole life of coursework is still pretty great to his book is likely the first of many but he says his next film will be his last.

Give a sense of what that 10th film is going to be no I don't have a clue if I had to guess I would think. Once upon a time in Hollywood is sort of the epic. At the end of the career if I had to guess I would think the left.

The 10th film would be more epilogue what epilogue he would just it's not an epic. It's the you at the LU told you till the big story and there's a little thing at the end you could say that's classic Quentin Tarantino and artful ending that leaves you wanting more is next few weeks here Sunday morning. Looking back at a few of our Sunday best stories we like so much. Would like to share them with you again to begin faced daily with some small wonders of the insect world who can teach some big lessons to the rest of us. When most people think about ants if they think about them at all. Ants are passed in the pantry are on a picnic that here in Belize. The king of the jungle.

They are constantly on the hunt, swarming under every rock and lurking in almost every flower so many different kinds of ant species to thinker and the Belizean rain forest or around your member could probably be several hundred tops of the trees along the my God, I found her on law made from Mark Moffat is a biologist inside. We have the Queen, author, photographer and aunt enthusiasm. Oh yeah, almost from birth. I learned early that I am sir controlling the world under her feet down there as an infant, but would watch them doing all these things were very humanlike building of roads working together to collect food ants to all kinds of things that leaves primates like a chimpanzee. You don't have to deal with. Take the leaf cutter ants. These insects live in society's of millions another sound, motion leaves and feeding all those millions of mandibles requires a lot of work. This is a tough job draws good court worn down by the draws for over contain a lot of zinc so essentially living can openers, grab onto leaf from one side here through with that other tooth on the other side where you use a little portable CanOpener ants are carrying leaves with hitchhikers furnace was a something literally explore the import of the world is little ants climbing on top of the leaves and getting hauled along. One reason is of public cost for calling low some of you for the bus stand on the leaves on the walk themselves as is just good economics, carpooling, carpooling of those leaf cutters are carrying their booty back to the colony and eat the leaves know they don't actually need these leaves would think they would return literally pound after pound of leaf down is tree mode actually turn them into a mold on which they raise a fungus or fungus eating out totally. There early farmers in Berkeley do everything you think human farmers do with behavior. This complicated be pretty smart right answer. Not smart. In fact, if you watch Anand for any length of time you can end up wanting to help it because ants are really very inapt. What's amazing about ants is that in the aggregate all of these inapt creatures accomplish amazing feats as colonies and according to Deborah Gordon, Prof. of biology at Stanford. They do it all without a boss in a colony there's nobody in charge. There are no bureaucrats there no foreman there no managers. There is nobody telling anybody what to do. We put a lot of effort into thinking through how to organize some of the things that we try to do is groups. Ants don't put any effort at all.

Their pretty messy about it and it works really well. Most ants, it turns out, simply follow the crowd and now it turns out, scientists are following to attack one of life's most frustrating experiences. Air travel airline said help us figure out the most efficient way to get our passengers on a plane and you said I know he is an is finally doing complicated things with simple rules.

Doug Lawson's analyst at Southwest Airlines for some 21, we discovered that there is a better order in taking your seat.

Lawson used computer simulated to determine the most efficient way of boarding a plane which turns out to be open seating Southwest way of boarding without seat numbers actually more efficient and when I bought another airline and no right when we simulated what the different airlines are doing turns up a sign see there's a one third chance to ask to people to go open seating since the middle seat is undesirable. One generally that's the one that's lasted before, which means only one person is likely to get up person sitting ants have carry-on baggage with these ants cranking so may not be smart but they can be efficient. Something to ponder while waiting in the airport security line. Arguably, humans are true smart functioning of the whole society pays to be individually stupid. This is the wisdom of the crowds. Basically all of the lamps with her mostly ignorant forces out of all the mergers smart society all the lonely is actually pretty impressive high podcast. Drew Barrymore all my goodness, I want to tell you about our new shout. It's the Druze news podcast and each episode Nina weekly gastric to cover all the quirky find inspiring and informative stories that exist on the wall because well and maybe you do too. From the newest interior design trend Barbie car to the right and wrong way to wash her armpit also working to get in the things that you just kind of will probably and were not able to do in daytime television so watch out. Tristan is ever you get your podcast. It's your good news on the got some 60 years since the United States added two new stars to old glories field of blue Alaska became our 49th state in January 1959 Hawaii are 50th in August of the same year. So is it time for 51 we ask our maraca to consider the debate over making Washington DC, our newest state in 1915 nine.

Hawaii became state was the conclusion of a decades long fight with. I another. There had been's political opposition, represented my the cognitive thought and questions about whether Hawaiians could ever be real Americans will background about the culture of what future US Sen. Daniel in a way who's lost his right arm in World War II had a ready response times more men than the United States. 62 years later and 5000 miles away. There's another battle for statehood being waged. The bill is passed in April 2 U.S. House passed a bill to grant statehood to Washington DC. The measure is unlikely to survive the Senate. But the issue is not about to die, with more than 700,000 residents, almost half of whom are African-American. The District of Columbia has a bigger population than either Wyoming or Vermont residents here pay federal taxes more per capita than any state they can vote for president, but they have no voting representation in Congress. I was outraged completely outraged and angry. Hector Rodriguez moved to Washington in 1968, after serving in the U.S. Army, even when I was in the military on active duty I could vote and what I arrived in DC.

Suddenly I realize that I didn't have my full freedom.

We met him in one of the city's lesser-known monuments. The DC war Memorial honoring 500 of the some 6000 district residents who have given their lives for their country.

I felt as soldier who had served our country that I was not treated equally.

This is the only City in the world where the residents who live in the capital don't have the same rights as everybody else know has been slugging it out for DC statehood longer than Eleanor Holmes and you will not be holding the people who did not about you ground she's represented the district as a delegate for more than 30 years, though she's not allowed to vote on legislation for three generations my family has been the not the rights of Americans take for granted. Her grandfather was a DC firefighter working in a segregated unit.

My father was a civil servant.

My mother was a schoolteacher in the District of Columbia Public schools did you know growing up that residents of DC had this unusual status. I certainly knew it from the time we were children because you lived in the nation's capital. You had no voting rights. It was as if you didn't live in America. The question over DC voting rights stretches back to the beginnings of Washington itself. The Constitution called for the formation of that will district independent of any state to serve as the nation's capital land was cheated from Maryland and Virginia for the 100 mi.² District of Columbia on the banks of the Potomac River. There were already people living there in the existing towns of Georgetown and Alexandria and soon in a brand-new one called Washington, which by the way, is why it's written out Washington, DC the Constitution had nothing to say about their rights to representation.

They had just out of the country on the principal of no taxation without representation, so they realize that they got to competing principles when it comes to the District of Columbia. Historian George Derek Musgrove, co-author of chocolate city, a history of DC says the irony was not lost on the founding fathers. They debated they debated and Madison finally throws up his hands and says I know that any state that seeds the land for the district will, in fact, figure out how to make sure that these people are represented months teapots essentially in 1847. The portion of DC south of the Potomac retro seated to Virginia in part because Alexandria slave traders feared that slavery would be outlawed in the district giving the city its current shape and it wasn't until the 1990s statehood for the district became a political movement but at the time the city was deemed ungovernable by statehood.

Opponents Mayor Marion Barry national had was caught in the FBI sting smoking crack cocaine.

The district a liberal bastion of corruption and crime has yet come even close. In this member's eyes to deserving the is also privilege and responsibility of statehood. The city was on the verge of bankruptcy. The highest murder rate country 19 so these were serious problems that people use as a excuse to reject statehood legislation. Democrats win 93 at the White House and both houses of Congress gave only tepid support to a DC statehood bill, which died while you death, but today the district is a very different place. While homicides have risen over the last few years there, well below the early 90s and the city is today on firm financial footing known as the seller. So this is where the actual act of fermentation. Dorchester is the owner of right proper brewing, he and 22-year-old Trimble holds a part of a new generation of activists. I'm trying to function as a small business and I don't have someone in Congress is going to fight for me to fight for my business because it's in Washington DC this issue from your personal amontillado for healthcare. She was on her shirt so the day where everyone was like oh you're so reach out to your representative and told the vote for the affordable care was a day where I knew I was worthless, but opponents of the statehood bill saying not so fast in their invoking the Constitution. There is no power in Congress to turn the district into a new 51st state. The only way this can be done is through a constitutional amendment. Roger P. Lawn is a legal scholar with the Cato Institute.

It's clear that the people in the District of Columbia want. There's only one way under current circumstances that they can do.

They will have to move to a new state. There are people in the district that have been here for many generations does it make any difference constitutionally. No what you say. The argument that you care this much about voting rights moved to another state. I am almost speechless. You can't just pick up your life. People don't have that option is also a matter of civil rights more socially on the margin of the real battle is a bareknuckled partisan one over control of a closely divided Senate in 2020, 92% of residents here voted for Joe Biden. You state would almost certainly add two more Democrats to the Senate. No surprise that opposition to statehood is almost exclusively Republican God of love. That prospect of two more Democrats in the Senate.

How much is that motivate you, what motivates me a lot. We need to more Democrats in the Senate while the drive statehood may have stalled in Congress, the very people live in the shadow of the capital are not about to throw in the towel in 2016. Referendum record high 86% of DC residents registered their support for statehood why it matters is it's almost as though the country is not yet complete. Like this in front of your voice does not in this time that we make sure the vote counts Steve Hartman this morning has a love story.

Something lost and something found in the picture. Peter and Lisa Marshall of Andover Connecticut are paging through the most memorable day of their lives look like a lovely wedding, was was unforgettable but he's forgotten he has forgotten his. It's the saddest part because you want to reminisce and near alone in the memory three years ago at the age of 53, Peter was diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's. Eventually, you not only forgot his wedding day is pretty you forgot his wife, Lisa, became just another nameless caretaker there entire history together permanently raced a whisper of their love must've goes. Lisa says all of a sudden he began courting her just started dating until one day a wedding scene came on TV. Peter pointed to the screen and said let's do it, do what any pointed you pointed again, this is Mary and he got this grin on his face and he said yeah so he fell in love. Lisa accepted this proposal a few months ago, she staged a wedding for her husband can't even describe to you how magical was he was so and he was so happy.

You may kiss your bride Lisa says Peter hadn't been this loose in weeks. Unfortunately it was a Cinderella moment the clock struck 12, by the next morning. This wedding to was lost to the Lisa says she fully expected. I am the one who's going to remember that and that can help me heal later because it really is a true love story Alzheimer's can take away so much. But, fortunately, is almost always the last to go. Freedom.

The founders sought is the most basic of human rights. It's also the title of a new book from author Sebastian younger published by Simon & Schuster a part of Viacom, CVS Sebastian younger now with thoughts on the meaning of freedom in the land of the free years ago some buddies and I walked up the East Coast along the railroad lines sleeping under bridges drinking out of creeks and cooking over campfires was a kind of high speed vagrancy that saws pass through everything Farms ghettos suburbs wildlands that make up this great country. Once we walked through Chester, Pennsylvania, a small but dangerous town that has recently tripled the murder rate in nearby Philadelphia. It was a warm fall day and I saw man drinking on his front porch.

He raised his beer as we passed by and I stopped to ask you what you love most about America freedom.

He said without hesitation.

It's a free country. The man was African-American and lived in an exceedingly poor broken community.

It seemed like a kind of moral victory that he would remain focused on freedom despite the injustice of the circumstances. My father grew up in Europe and fled fascism in Spain and then in France and he told me that he came to America because he knew that freedom and democracy would never failure. He always made sure to tell me that many thousands of Americans were buried in his home country of France where they had died fighting for the most basic freedom there is that no one matter how powerful can wield cruel and arbitrary authority over anyone else.

The same can be said about American revolutionaries who overthrew British rule in Union forces that defeated slaveholding Confederate states during the Civil War. I believe that my father, a theoretical physicist who spoke with an accent and the man on his front porch and Chester would've had a huge amount to talk about American democracy has survived every single attack upon it, including Al Qaeda's fourth airplane which was headed for the US Capitol building on 9/11 until passengers forced it down into a field in Pennsylvania, 20 years later, thousands of mega-supporters attacked the same building for the same reason is the heart of our democracy and they wanted to intimidate and control us.

We may know the greatness of our country, it seems, but the cruelty of our foes. If the Statue of Liberty has been lonely standing in the mouth of New York harbor as she has these past hundred and 34 years. She certainly never showed it still closed to visitors due to coven Lady liberty projects the same confidence and majesty as ever, only now she's got company on Wednesday. A second smaller Statue of Liberty arrived on our shores, a gift from friends. They say it symbolizes the enduring friendship between our two countries. French ambassador Philippe 18 explorable never underlines how all democracies need to work together with our common values, including everything which is symbolized by this.

I choose freedom. Also, alternatives for all our citizens from her Parisian church last month and carefully wrap the statue boarded a freighter bound for America. Retracing the very same transatlantic route. The original statue traveled in 1885 as the new statute passed to Liberty Island, New York city's fire department greeted it with a water cannon sold crafted from the original plaster model used by French sculptor Frederica goosed about holding this bronze replica weighs in at nearly a thousand pounds and 9 feet high. It's about 1/16 the size of its much larger this Independence Day weekend. The statue was on display on Ellis Island less than a mile from her big sister. Then it's off to Washington DC where the statue will be installed at the French ambassador's residence just in time for Bastille Day on July 14. Thank you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning progress and crazy time is the point is we bad people in the best way to protect good people is to convict the final season Millstream