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 In our cover story, Susan Spencer looks at the pain of family estrangements, and the difficulty of repairing broken family bonds. David Pogue looks at the road to Broadway of a musical about Princess Diana. Maurice DuBois talks with Adrienne Warren about her Tony-nominated performance as Tina Turner. Lee Cowan sits down with "The Price is Right" host Drew Carey, and Mola Lenghi interviews former PepsiCo CEO Indra Nooyi, one of the few female leaders of a Fortune 500 company

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Life is for living. Let's partner for all of it. Learn more@edwardjones.com. I'm Jane Pauley and this is Sunday morning. More and more it seems our United States is a house divided the national fabric torn by partisan politics, race, even our response to a deadly pandemic but there is another far more personal rift that can separate us family feuds, better quarrels that can tear households apart, sometimes for good Susan Spencer this morning looks at family feuds and then a story straight out of the history books. Mauer sets down on Lance this night on horseback gallops toward the target and carries on centuries old tradition games that remind our roots our medieval roots and yet still today the transform and transfixed Tuscan town of Arezzo coming up on Sunday morning trip in time, just as long as TV has been in our living rooms. The price is right has been there to leak how it looks at one of America's favorite game shows as it hits the half-century mark celebrating 50 years of anything mild resting 50 years on TV is rare is everything the same, but it's not Golden anniversary first show price is always been right on Sunday tonight as Broadway's big night Tony awards her back here on CBS.

After a year off because of covert. Maurice Dubois will be talking with Adrian.

Warren is been nominated for her portrayal of Tina Turner and the challenges of playing a living legend. When Adrian Warren asked Tina Turner how she should portray her on Broadway, the rockstar said find my essence, what is the essence was the essence of his fire veracity billions coming later on Sunday morning onto a new show that's getting a lot of buzz Diana have a musical based on the life of Lady Diana Spencer was in previews 18 months ago when the pandemic dropped the curtain on Broadway. David Pogue tells us how our show is born. Once upon a time there was a musical about Princess Diana. There was sent back the whole of what I was closing for a bit and there was a happy ending to be beautiful show before the show was ever opened on Broadway Diana head on Sunday morning the story of a Broadway show in Malta Langley has the remarkable success story of ingenuity. One of the most powerful executives in the world, plus Steve Hartman commentary from singer-songwriter David Byrne and more on this Sunday morning, September 26, 2021 will be back in a moment family ties, there may be no stronger bond but as Susan Spencer tells us when that bond is broken. The pain can be everlasting. Don't say Nashville musician with Hill doesn't typically write songs about mother but there is a trace of her mom in every note she plays you described having some sort of psychic pole toward her.

What does that mean I remember telling her when I was a little child I said mom, we are connected by a silver band there. The silver band of love between us all that silver band of love snapped and we became pregnant at 22. She turned to me and she said get it taken care of and that was a knife to the heart and and I said no I am and I have this baby and it's going to be okay mom can be okay and she said well then there can be nothing more between us when she said those words which must've been devastating.

I did you for one second think that this was going to be the literal truth. No, but it was with its mother cut off all contact with her daughter for four decades. Did you make an effort to get in touch with her.

I wrote to her regularly for many years while the door still open on my am I missing, sometimes it's not too painful anymore, but I'd be willing to make all the necessary adjustments if you say the word scores of letters like that one.

From 1985. All went unanswered. When people would ask you about your mother would you say I would say it's a sad story, but we used to be very close and I have been disowned. I think when a family member walks away.

It's almost more painful than if they died. Jane Wu is a clinical psychologist at Duke University school of medicine who has written about these broken relationships. This is one of the deepest types of human hearts that we can have these are the things that we regret our deathbed. These are the things we spent sleepless nights thinking about and it's something that happens more often than you might guess, this is a problem that affects everyone in our country and cuts across a lot of divides Prof. Carl Piller is a Cornell University family sociologist is new research is an eye-opening look at just how prevalent family estrangement are. I was absolutely stunned to find that 27% of Americans report that they are currently estrangement and that would translate to close to 70 million people.

That's unbelievable.

It is an extraordinary almost epidemic level problem sometimes the problem becomes a spectacle from the feuding royals to famous Hollywood stars. It's horrible to have to do this to the siblings of an Arizona congressman last year campaigned against their own brother but most family estrangement's go unacknowledged by the outside world, people are willing to talk about all kinds of things. But the really clam up.

If they're asked to talk about estrangement and families over and over. We heard from our respondents. They feel shame. They feel guilt. They feel stigmatized when they tell someone that they haven't seen her son in 10 years.

They imagine a cartoon bubble over the other person's head saying what's wrong with you. And often that's the case Prof. Piller hopes his recent book will change all that. One of the primary causes of it if someone could tell you the exact causes of her problems complexes estrangement that you probably want a Nobel Prize or the equivalent of a strong risk factor for becoming a strange is very divergent values about religion, about lifestyle, about other issues. My mother had a very different outlook on things than I did.

It was just a different generation was a low, never will forget the lunch she had with her mother in 1982 they started talking about unmarried couples living together, I just said very conversationally.

I have several friends who live together before getting married and they're doing just fine and in the middle of this restaurant.

She blew up as badly as I've ever seen in my life.

Her mother, who was known for such rages stormed out of the restaurant for Pat. That was it. I said I am never going to speak you again you mended from that moment on, literally. I meant it like I am not to put up with us again, such family breakups.

Prof. Piller says seem to be on the rise in the US bonds of obligation that might've affected our parents used begin this because it's family and blood is thicker than water. That's something that's changed especially for a lot of young people.

I think in America we have a sense of needing more boundaries and more distance and that distance is often a bridge too far.

According to a recent CBS News poll. 4/10 people who have fallen out with family members say they have never reconciled. Still, psychologist Jade who says don't give up hope.

You may feel like you will never approve of your son's partner you may never approve of your daughter's career. You may never understand what transgender means. For example, but the whole point is that you need to hear their side of the story. And if you can listen with empathy and even if you don't immediately agree, you can still say I hear you.

I can see how deeply I hurt you. That is a huge huge step towards healing for Pat was a Lou reconciliation came after a year of silence out of the blue.

Mother called and apologized.

What it did mean to you to have reconciled with her before she died. Oh, it was really important. It was really important. I literally don't know how I would've felt if I had never spoken to her again and then I heard that she had passed away. If you think I conveniently lost my memory of you you're wrong. But for Whitehill, there was no happy ending for decades in my disconnect ended with no hog, no explanation, just news. Last year that her mother had died think I wouldn't care. After all this time right. I wish I didn't wish I cared, but ice screamed and found my husband's arms and cried. I think we are hardwired to have very strong feelings about her family. These are the people that are the closest to us. They are the ones that wash us grow up or raised us. Remember that every family has conflicts but when there is conflict be willing to put aside what's right and what's wrong and be willing to apologize. Perhaps, again and again. Now we take you back in time for one spectacular spectacle. I walk through the pages of history is in the company of set down the mortgage from their own orders for two-year eat of the city in the heart of Tuscany. These Italian café owners and teachers mechanics and business people become in medieval costumes ability nights and soldiers while there is plenty of pageantry, their expressions reveal the competition at the root of this is real reparations of been underweight for days in the Piazza Grande as practices for the main event tonight on horseback to get Christine. This spectacle known as the Joe through Josette at Chino back to the Middle Ages and twice a year. The picturesque walled city of Arezzo transform as is Enrico bit of leaning a local jeweler turned night we train or that he or they on foot on the fourth at four seconds is how long it'll take to run his horse PA across the square foot.

The bond we Bennett Benevides pharmacy prepared for his 40th set a Chino joust. That's a lot of jousts but the pressure is the same. He's helped his team win 12 times making them something of a local celebrity. Everything anybody. Oh, you will make Satoshi know you'll make Ms. people recognize this every time and Ms. either liked much you don't like this uncharacteristically humble night since tourists only see this out at Chino with their eyes were his locals. He says feel it in their hearts.

We have been gaining our blood in your blood that is games that remind our roots our medieval roots. Historian Fabiano proves he grew up in this ancient city, with everyone dressed up in these old costumes for while it seems that people actually match the backdrop back to a time when Tuscan cities were fighting both each other in foreign forces that sat at Chino per roots, he explains, was a sort of wargame during times of night train shape so the best way was wargame in the town would come out to watch for is that there were varying fourth and see that these games we stunted joust prize at Golden Lance had become citywide session divisions are clear and color-coded are you wearing green for reason. My knees think that you they yell I'm go on worrying today that shade of green is tied to a team with 36 Golden Lance is in its museum. We wall is green and white are the only colors team manager severity of Christine he would wear on these days supporting his quarter sent Andrea and my family apart is something that another pot that what she set up that the enemy infected shooting disputed the with my mama. That's from a book she fed up mom today I want to want to redo okay are you serious yeah just outside the museum team was pulling up its fans preparing a pair to TiVo in the course meal 700 supportive yet another tradition joust meal here green and white was everywhere, including the nail polish on loud told us there was a division in her family to her sisters would never come to this dinner featuring sent and that is night recuperative meaning.

The next morning on the big day, teams paraded through town and West Bishop field to get on date, plaintiff had backstage feel that we found Enrico bit of Vini a lot of emotion a lot of waiting on the BBB costume for this joust, but those emotions are authentic play said to be called in to settle things.

This mainly uniforms.

It was a bit of the Dniester center of the target Lance using all of the points ultimately the winning run fans flooded the field. One of these. This does have his leanings in this case. After all, I married into a family from Arezzo, which is also divided passion is part of the tradition here at Enrico bit of Vini's farm. We saw him training with his 12-year-old son Julio. If I do not another generation preparing for another joust, just as they have for centuries.

This is the second time this is the second time in 32 year model my camera and TVs longest running game show.

The price is right is turning 50. We ask Lee Cowan to come on down if you don't watch your back backstage at the price is right.

The price might view everything is on the move back here again prize coworkers, especially all pushed in the places of every battery in Hollywood. But despite the controlled chaos of CBS's oldest game show host Drew Carey just minutes before, she can be appropriate. The run for up there's no prep the door open.

I know just what to do and I'm ready to go 50 seasons 50 everything the same, but it's not Bob Burke postcode starting way back in 1972. Think about that Nixon present Jane Fonda was taking home her first Oscar Barker was giving away brand-new cars that cost less 3000 box 6C number six this day a few places on TV anywhere else espresso effect don't pick up the whole playing games old fans are some of the most galaxy energy persistence. The key know Alvarez is one taping the price is right, but the record, that is made on stage twice last time winning big part of the price is right, unlike reality TV you here really, especially the Really says is not our money. When it all.

Rachel Reynolds and memo are blind to the price is right.

Models the only ones you are no male models to ask one of the big updates the last 50 years have live viewers that lie the biggest change of course was hoped all right. Barker and Homer. The price is right for five years 2007. We finally decided time I never let anybody what job you slick unheard of anywhere right Carey remembers meeting Barker. This legendary old Hollywood home when Frank discussed the very real fear that when Barker left. The price is right.

I feel old wrong engine history. No transmission of everyone talking about. Yeah, it does.

But at the same time you know every day. It's the ball Barker studio and people still show up with Bob Barker shirts with this picture of the shirts. The time Barker was practically Hollywood royalty Carey was a blue-collar comic from Cleveland hey giveaway prizes growing up. He could never imagine this to you when you die so much. Realistically, nobody my neighborhood had a lot of money. If anybody ever said that the parties would say oh yeah what yours carries always been funny on the outside ever since he was a kid when I was younger I would memorize joke books, 2000 and sales for all occasions was big ones, but was struggling on the inside self-described nerd is a team. He says he was plagued with self-doubt and unworthiness to suicidal times I was younger I was like 18 and I was like really depressed and lost and what I want to do with myself Junior high.

What I would walk to the hall and instead of saying excuse me or Sam, sorry sorry sorry I was sorry for existing. He dropped out of college and joined the Marine reserves. Why was and I was sick so excited to be part of the thing you know I got a lot of pride back to myself and yell all they wanted in care. I was just so happen to be part of this was part of this big thing and I was doing you open Drew Kerry's later success is well documented. Johnny Carson made him a standup standup graduation picture. The look like this one joke nine seasons of the Drew Carey show sitcom sensation. This is your girlfriend that you left the long mismanagement of ABC Christmas hoedown in the game show whose line is it anyway day that I really hate about it which I can relate. So every December. I picked up Mike go out and hang out with me to realize that just being himself to start out sitcoms dream. Think of what was the price of pictures of all the time. This crazy all the time.

Another 50 year time capsule and average Joe. When the price is right can win be from Steve Hartman story on the care and feeding of Louisiana line after hurricane lineman from across the country came here to southern Louisiana to restore power and found an angel.

What woman actually named Angel what beginning I was likely so under her own blue tarp Drew Angel began prepping lunch for the lineman working in and around Houma, Louisiana couldn't stand the thought of that meeting: processed food. There is no restaurants, with no power. You wanted food you winning. And that's the thing. It's not just Angel by a long shot. While we were there seemed every 15 minutes. Someone else showed up with a side dish scene that repeats daily here in Houma and across Louisiana on this Facebook group. We found thousands of women and men helping the lineman in every parish affected by the storm. They been preparing meals, offering rooms, even doing lawn like checking your check and guiding an angel tells the man to leave the dirty clothes on the porch and folded by morning for lineman like Jared Coley of Winter Garden, Florida. Treatment is unbelievable but a lot of storms. Remember, through the skin for, but Angel says it's the least you can do these guys put in 16 hour days seven days a week away from their families and talking to them. Angel has learned it's really about the money it's about their alignment don't take the call to go on storm they call it like being in the Army in turning down the plane so we Louisiana are now recognizing lineman for the heroes that they are helping to rebuild the community that we that's how you restore the power of gratitude is take out with preacher Garrett this week Stephen Law ally of Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm monument list for me to Senate races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed with Nevada not Georgia. Georgia is right up there with New Hampshire's surprise, New Hampshire people really just kind of don't like you have for more from this week's conversation, follow the take out with major Garrett on Apple podcasts forever. You get your podcasts. It's the new season on Sunday morning and here again is Jane Holly at tonight's Tony awards.

It's probably fair to say that many eyes will be on Adrian Warren nominated for Best actress in a musical for her trail of Tina Turner. She's on Broadway with Maurice Dubois fell incredibly back like a blessing and I'm happy to be able to do what I love what Adrian Warren love is perfect with people and portraying one of rock 'n' roll's biggest stars in the reopening Broadway show Tina Tina Turner musical and Broadway logs Adrian Warren she's nominated for Best actress in a musical show itself is nominated for 12 tones, including musical yeah I've forgotten a lot. I've got a lot Adrian Warren has been becoming Tina Turner for more than six years now, and patients has been the name of the game show for so long and I think I put so much pressure on myself pressure to do right by her pressure to direct her fan and now I feel that more ownership over and away that I didn't feel that before and now I think I can actually have a bit more fun before the pandemic began born shared with us the pivotal moment in her transformation to Tina Turner right here. My back is the first in the beginning and right when the lights go down here for me and I hear that crowd childhood which Tennessee to her discovery and horrific treatment by her husband, and producer Turner.

It wasn't had to be careful what I said and how I said it and I didn't want to start a fight was always a black guy broken nose busted lip Maria. It was pure torture Tina Turner is one of the executive producers. I looked up to her for as long as I can remember. I think there was a time), Sinclair music in my household and I've never seen another woman saying rock 'n' roll all that look like me hello stranger from their very first meetings, Turner made sure she would be there for any advice that Warren needed, you know, I didn't see you dance yet.

I now see the pony right now.

Yeah, you know from the beginning. She she asked our producers and tell her she can ask me anything she wants and I thought the flip shoulders and then when you go fast when first thing she said to me, there are no shortcuts to hardware.

Now I do. Turner says she told Warren don't try to me find my essence and in order to find that essence.

Adrian Warren turned to video of Turner's classic performances. How is her body move when she said, grooving her hands off it always here. They're often a little loose but she like makes points and points at things and points at the audience and warrants that she was shocked by something else. There a lot of video that you can look back and you can actually see bruises on her. She would say Adrian that I can't just punch me in the face before she tried to cover it up with makeup paid to her ankle and knee are herniated disc hardly ever leaves the stage for the shows two hours and 45 minutes performing an astonishing 24 numbers. So what happens to your muscles, your mind form for you actually had to forget about myself. I actually asked the question of who am I went out the answers though I am someone who cares a lot about what's happening in this world this country cares a lot about my community silence around black lives infuriated me in a way that actually made me want to stop performing at one point I was silent about my life and about whether or not we are having to ask permission to be seen as equal in the industry didn't really acknowledge us for years until now.

Which explains why she will walk off with a special Tony tonight for her work with the Broadway advocacy coalition, a group Adrian Warren cofounded five years ago to combat racism. So ultimately in your mind what does social justice look like when comes to the theater. It looks like you and I at their looks like you and I it looks like black narratives being more about watch how well we sing and how well we dance that what is it to be ice in everyday life were being acknowledged the now here you see were not going anywhere learning and say don't hold people accountable were knocking to set up in my journey of learning how somewhere in there. I've been able to find myself on Broadway a momentous time. We've been waiting for. We have thoughts from singer-songwriter David Byrne performer all my life.

At some point in my life.

I realize that these experiences change me as a person, but realized this is a collective kind of ritual going on is healing for me.

Time is experiencing is not about me as an individual man. My collaborators, enabling a group social experience as a catalyst in enabler of a moment that lets everyone experience something that allows them to transcend themselves for a moment, becoming part of a larger group than just I is a wonderful experience might be in a musical theater, dance club, sociologist Emile Durkheim called this phenomena collective efflorescence about 100 years ago is something that happens in religious ceremonies. Now, I won't presume that what we do in the theater and concerts is necessarily religious or spiritual partakes of the same part of our nature as social animals is essential to who we are as humans were not merely individuals alone are gazing at our screens. Much of who we are is what happens when were together with other people.

This part of ourselves has been denied us at least in this country for a year and 1/2 like a part of our bodies, our souls, ourselves and cut off taken from us, not quite home now recapture the experience part of ourselves feeling coming home again six audiences in spontaneous applause not just for us performers before themselves for the collective joy they missed laughing together, cheering, being moved altogether.

We will stage feel the same way. Let's hope this can all continue and we can become completely human again with Broadway reopening the carton is finally going up on the highly anticipated musical Diane David Pogue has a preview this is the story of a Broadway musical about Princess Diana Diana you probably know, the plot already. She was. She single-handedly transformed the role from domestic institution into a global Andrew Morton is the author of the 1992 book that revealed Diana's unhappiness is bulk of those becoming Prince Charles is held this relationship with Camilla Parker Bowles as she famously said there were three of them in the marriage so it was rather crowded the story of this musical journey falls neatly into three act one a shows born.

I was happy to be reading about her and I thought this is a great idea for a story and the musical composer David Bryant and scriptwriter Jodi Pietro began writing the show in 2016 is a show where there are no villains or just people trying to make things work in a very difficult situation. There are no villains or rhymes with but but but it's through Diana's eyes. They approach Christopher Ashley is the director of the La Jolla Playhouse in California about directing our story takes us from what I was 19. The day she meets Prince Charles to the divorce so it really is a story of a marriage. Yeah it's a little so property plus it has history for me. The moment that I really got was when I saw the picture of her shaking hands with a young man with AIDS that really move me a lot.

Now all they had to do was find themselves.

Diana Gina walked in she was aptly definitive. First edition my whole preparation began watching all the countless teaching videos we have opposed the cameras out to speak. They found their Diana Gina about accident and yes I'm British that she has a totally different accent and I think my normal accident deftly fluctuates a lot of talks and not move forward Tina Fey forward and quite nasal and dad very articulated for Diana aficionados Diana's biggest costar might well be her costumes. This is the closest to my heart of any show that I've ever worked in is well written. Just William Ivey Long has designed the costumes for 75 Broadway shows, but he really wanted this one because the main character is known for her passion is the wedding dress is famous. The revenge dress is famous.

The John Travolta dress. She was famous for, among other things, her fashion sense. Everyone wanted to see her. Everyone wanted to be here. How many outfits you made for Diana, Princess Diana Allstate is wearing 35 different outfit by my calculations that's less than four minutes per outfit you do that well.

It's a secret Velcro.

I can guarantee you that is not an ounce of after a successful tryout at the La Jolla Playhouse.

It was all systems go Broadway opening in March 2020 and then the curtain fell so we arrive ready Friday night session and you said gave us the news that the whole of what I was closing Bette's coded 19 close the Diana musical. Before it had even opened asked to Netflix. This we meet again next month later. The last time I spoke to. We were in this room under very different circumstances give us a concise history of what happens to the creative team started meeting the day after Broadway shut down.

We wrote a new song and really did major reworking of the first acts Netflix possibility came up shows producers have struck a deal film this Broadway musical that had never actually opened on Broadway and so in the thick of the pandemic in August 2020. The cast spent four weeks living in an isolation bubble rehearsing for the Netflix chute in their empty and nobody said to buy a ticket to the show turned out not to be true, you think about likely impact the Chicago movie had it's still running on Broadway. The live show. I do actually think people want to see something live for themselves of the experience on film at three back to Broadway a few weeks ago we sat down once again with Gina DeWalt shall be putting on Diana's blonde wigs once again when the show finally opens in November. I was there pandemic longer than expected. I can't really think of what it would be like you are really rehearsing a show already rehearsed white for five years.

Still don't know we really doubt really because flex means would not be judged by the Neil stage means are going to be judged by everybody. One. The Netflix film of Diana will become available on October 1.

The Broadway show begins previews November 2. At least if things don't change again to be that guy.

Right now the story is a nice three act structure Shoney's Broadway show loses Broadway show gets Broadway Delta variance now is there any worry is where I anyhow could you not be like that that is just the nature of surrender and have faith. She embodies the American dream rising from humble beginnings to become a Fortune 500 CEO. She's also struggled with every working mother's dilemma juggling career and family correspondent mullah lanky talks with PepsiCo's ingenuity got an incredible collection ingenuity's office in Greenwich, Connecticut, Lionel Richie, sign my toasting looks like a shrine to rock 'n' roll. But this one is the one I love the most, like Shelton signed new, the former CEO of PepsiCo, one of the most iconic brands in the world was something of a rock star herself in her native India. I was all goes rock that was in high school when I was in a Catholic school so songs about appropriate none good songs that the nuns picked the banning landmines picked the name logarithms standing over them tables rock 'n' roll like new. We went on to become a rockstar in the corporate world attempt to leave PepsiCo in 2006. She was one of only a handful of female CEOs Fortune 500 companies in 2008 to tie the seal of the Fortune 500 to 500 companies, 41 women see where you can read a desk great progress from 0 to 41 or you can say in 25 years removed from 0% to about 1/2% is that progress yes and no.

Technically retired.

She still hard at work trying to improve not just one company, but all companies now well simple really. More women than 50% of the population of women get more college degrees than men.

70% of high school about Italians. They are overrepresented in professional schools but at some point their career paths to rail today, women account for roughly 1/4 senior leadership jobs, new week takes aim at this disparity in a new memoir chronicling her self admittedly improbable rise to becoming as Fortune magazine described one of the most powerful women in the world to consider your time as CEO of PepsiCo success pretty good success in both things the transformational things. The things that people at that time I criticize before the knock on the prescient.

She pushed more than 100-year-old company to put families first by focusing on challenges facing women in the workplace, offering generous paid family leave and help with childcare. The biological clock in the country of talk on conflict something delaying child for many many years in the freezing getting so not having children. I thought this essay I can keep looking at condos and strategies.

My point us with go to make it less of a rat race, that's one thing.

Her ideas on family are rooted in her own experience, when it began in a strict but loving multigenerational home in Chennai, India the family that believe the goal should be allowed to soar as much as the boys made a huge difference huge difference in 1978 newly was accepted into Yale business school so off to America. She went some 8000 miles from everything she had ever known. One of the few women and even fewer minorities in her class. She arrived on campus to a rude awakening. Nobody smiling to welcome you like… I'm starving. How do I get food. I go to the grocery store and bought a loaf of bread, tomatoes and potato chips hated crying saying what I done. Turns out she knew exactly what she was doing newly graduated got married to her husband Raj had two daughters pre-done tomorrow, all while working more than full-time, eventually landing a job at PepsiCo and climbing the corporate ladder in 2000, she was appointed president of the company. She rushed home to tell her family. The news, but was quickly humbled by her mother. She said no I don't have him present on the board. I don't even know what that means but let me just tell you when you walk in the store mother or your wife and daughter, your daughter-in-law, that's all you on this house so please do if it would just leave that crown the garage. She says it was a critical life lesson 12 essay work and life is not a balance juggling and higher jungle this every day is the big challenge.

This can we have to develop trade-off stuff out of everybody's life.

Being a mom. Being an executive. How do I be the best at everything I painful emotional trade-offs. So I think back to some of those that is hugged.

I feel pain I feel a loss. This data set dear mom happy anniversary.

While she has forgiven herself grouch of her mother, Jan nice reminders of time with family that she treated for time in the office are still present when I found that there was so painful and poignant and emotional. I thought I should keep them very, very carefully. These secret artifacts were once mothers mementos of her children and a CEOs lesson in sacrifices made for success. Then mom I really love you. I really would appreciate if you came home please please please please please please, if you say yes.

I love you again These things is okay, here's what I cannot get myself to not look at them regularly is the despite the tough choices she says she has no regrets and wants the same for other women.

And while yes, her mission is gender equity injury newly insists it could also be good business. I approach it as an economist first than just a feminist because it is such a lost opportunity's mom driven. They want the bow to the place they want to love. They want economic freedom that's harnessed their capabilities.

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