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We begin this morning in an unlikely place, but for all the right reasons were taking you behind bars to a prison in Maine to see a kind of prison work which will both surprise and maybe inspire Nancy Giles explains along Maine's route. One is a store filled with all manner of crafts from salad bowls to sailing ships all made in Maine state prisons. There's only so many opportunities you have in here to try to light touch the world ahead on Sunday morning making art while doing time music with the ministry Saturday tells us it's especially important and particularly beloved during the holiday season little drummer boy was it for the Christian rock country become such a thing right before upset matter generally do whatever later on Sunday morning. Perfect temporary Christian cruise is one of Hollywood's biggest stars. So how is it that she now makes Madrid her home. We asked Holly Williams to make inquiries debating screen presence. Penelope Cruz has been compared to Sophia Loren at the Spanish actress says she doesn't herself that way I would ask you what it like to be a beauty icon but it feels like you don't acknowledge that you know I don't have in my mind so home and I think what is good is to have a faith that contains and has so much to do with light.

Penelope Cruz lights up the screen once again coming up on Sunday morning. Rita braver talks with the outgoing head of the government's never more important, National Institutes of Health Luke Burbank takes us to a place where the candy is dandy.

Plus David Pogue on a modern Christmas classic, Steve Hartman visit secret Santa holiday sing-along with Josh Grogan, Jim Gaffigan, and more on this Sunday morning before Christmas.

December 19, 2021 and will be right back.

When we begin this holiday show behind bars with Nancy Giles you're about to find out along Route one in Thomaston Maine is a store filled with crafts birdhouses and dollhouses salad bowls and sailing ships all made in Maine state prisons. We found the quality to be excellent.

Ted and Barbara would Mayer have been shopping here for decades. It's very nice that somebody who is perhaps in a place that he or she wishes she were still has the spirit to make something nice like that prison inmates have been making things in Maine since the 1800s when selling sleighs and wagons help defray costs.

Today a whole range of crafts support the workshops and Maine's maximum-security prison in Warren.

I mean I can't control everything up and imprisoned nobody but one option that the computer designing something is going to lose about modern pearl about their I am focused on this. This can bring somebody pleasure Ron Bovard was 24 when he began serving his time. That was 33 years ago, like a person that wasn't computers.

I had to teach myself abnormal so I taught myself to do so.

How did you learn is all trial and error. Charlie Jones came here when he was 20 sentenced to 75 years in a state where there is no parole in the workshops. He discovered he had a talent for carving every time that I called something I'd thought only under this, but as you take one piece off start to see more than just go one of Charlie's earlier projects was this Golden Eagle which he learned to carve from a book I just kinda went by that and tried to just duplicate it. You just kinda went by that I have ability to indoor monotony carving the feathers was kind of therapeutic integers do it and want you can get a rhythm going. It's all right. It's amazing the Martel residents out here hundred residents working her daily interval $1.6 million worth of work out of this facility, they do random liberty is Commissioner of Maine's Department of Corrections for people who might think. Lock the door and throw away the key. Why are they getting opportunity to get training to be educated.

What would you say to them whatever side of the political spectrum, there may be on to win here for everyone. If you spend $46,000 year how someone in a correctional facility and they come back because they receive no programming to address the core reasons why they arrived here.

It's a stupid money.

One of Maine's programs allows residents to earn a college degree the money for it was donated by Doris Buffett Warren sister, who lived in Rockland, Maine to give us initial $2 million donation and are thus the best money I've ever seen invested in anyone. Ron Bovard is one of those graduates. Charlie Jones is to the college program is noticeably magnificent, noticeably magnificent list when we used to walk in shower. You could hear people talking in the back about some MS 13 story they heard of people in front you talk about is the cook math but now one go to trial. You might hear one of those conversations impermeable behind you. You have somebody talk about their philosophy class with a history class. The individuals saw that graduates have about a 5% return rate for citizenry as opposed to a 60 to 65% nationally. That means 95% of the people go through this program don't go back. That's correct.

When Doris Buffett died in 2020. Charlie was asked if he could make something to honor her. This is what Charlie made a table with legs made of books on their spines.

The names of courses open to prison residents and the professors who teach them on the table a book telling Doris Buffett story and a thank you note. There's only so many opportunities you have in here to turn the light touch the world in Portland Maine this fall and exhibition of art by those serving time in Maine, prisons part of a year-long project to shine a light on parts of prison life. Not often seen.

It's all from the heart. That's what I like about this. Curator Jan Collins is assistant director of the main presenter advocacy coalition sometimes is an expression of longing more than anything we have people who have used paperbacks because that's the only thing they had to work with your eyes sort of moves. Yes, not just one co-curator Olivia Hutch. Dad graduated from Colby College with a degree in art history last year you ever been imprisoned before now. Now what was your perception before you went in just five images of like sweaty guys who work out. Maybe not friendly and that's just not been true. Maybe they work out. What surprised me most was how kind the people I met were respectable, courteous, you know, I really believe that some of those guys are nicer than men that I've met outside.

We want people to know that every person in here has a family on the outside, the cares about you note my brothers coming to see the show.

My daughters we want them to see something that could be really proud of. What do you think is the biggest misconception people have about people that are in prison think that, therefore, always ask ourselves we believe redemption. I think that will believe reduction when it where applies to us when replies are placed all the people were reluctant to do that for Charlie Jones. Existential questions are deep and persistent maneuver murder. I got 75 years I've been imprisoned long I was alive like me to micron if I say to myself I want to fulfill the purpose of what the people who put me here intended for this to be what am I supposed to be doing when, if anything, would that purpose be fulfilled and the people that you hurt what has to be done for them. For those people to say okay I now see that that wasn't monster that that was a stupid kid. Dr. Collins has been at the helm of the National Institutes of Health since well before the start of the covert crisis. He is stepping down and has no intention of slowing down as he tells our reader braver. Dr. Francis Collins, the adventure of owning a Harley compared with the challenge of running this rolling National Institutes of Health. So we have 27 institutes and centers. They range everything from institutes or focused on a disease, the National Cancer Institute, to some that are focused on organ systems. The National eye Institute for infectious disease, heart, lung and blood had a pretty good time getting the best people in the world to come and leave those institutes after 12 years on the job. One of the longest runs in history.

Dr. Collins will step down today. I have loved this role, but 12+ years is a long time to have a single leader of this largest supporter of biomedical research in the world.

It's good to have new vision. It was current his own vision is one of the foremost genetic researchers in the country.

It inspired and then Pres. Barack Obama to appoint him to lead NIH in 2009. Collins helped push two major increases in the NIH budget now expected to hit $50.4 billion a year.

I have done everything I can to stay out of any kind of political partisan debates because it really is not a place where medical research belongs. That may be why both presidents Trump and Biden asked him to stay on the Collins revealed that once the Colby pandemic began found himself facing off with Mr. Trump over Collins's refusal to endorse scientifically disproven remedies like hydroxychloroquine and blood plasma for me covered covert patients.

I got into a difficult place and got a bit of talking to by the present states about this, but I stuck my jewelry designed to come to the White House, trying to do something he didn't want to was not going to compromise scientific principles to just hold onto the job. Collins has resisted demands from the right for him to hire one of his key team members Dr. Anthony found she can you imagine a circumstance where the director of the NIH somebody who believes in science would submit to political pressures and fire the greatest expert in infectious disease that the world is known just to satisfy political concerns. Collins is proud of the work by NIH scientists helped lead to the development of covert vaccines but still are there any things that you wish you NIH had done differently vis-à-vis: I wish we had studied more carefully. The problem of hesitancy. I did not imagine that there would be 60 million people who faced with compelling evidence of the lifesaving nature of covert vaccines would still say no.

Not for me.

Francis Sellars Collins, one of four boys grew up in Stanton Virginia home schooled until sixth grade. My mother and my father had this ability to inspire you about the joy of learning new things.

He got a PhD from Yale and an MD from the University of North Carolina in 1989 he helped discover a gene that causes cystic fibrosis amine 93 Collins was recruited to join NIH where he would head up the government's effort in the race with a private company led by Craig Venter to map the human genome all the genetic information in our DNA.

All of this got to the people magazine version of science.

Roger was all that helpful, but ultimately it had in 2000, Pres. Bill Clinton declared it a tie. Today we celebrate the revelation of the first draft of the human book of life. In 2007, Pres. George W. Bush presented Collins with the medal of freedom in large part because of strides that mapping the human genome made in treating diseases like cancer, what particular genes are mutated, that is causing this to prop this problem to happen and how could we look at the menu of all the kinds of interventions we have drugs immunotherapy and pick the right match for your cancer. The genome project that possible even after he became director of NIH Collins continued to do research.

Yeah, this is the special part of it for me here in the lab where he plans to return when he steps down as director focusing on diabetes and in Eugene and acting technique to help kids with a rare disease called progeria that causes premature aging were now trying to figure out how in the next months or maybe a year to do all the necessary work to start a clinical trial in kids with that condition to see what we could do and his partner in all of this is his wife Diane Baker pioneering genetic counselor. So do you sit around the dinner table. Discuss the latest development. Actually, we do.

In fact, Baker has become deeply involved in charities support patient care at NIH. We both care so much about healthcare and access to healthcare and biomedical research we know it's all intertwined and necessary to find your question the qualities that come to mind are. He is totally himself. He is totally who he is and he brings everything to his work is humor is intellect music. His concern for people brings it all the music.

His wife mentioned is indeed a key to understanding Dr. Francis Collins, whether it's playing a concert with a young sickle cell anemia patient or performing with other NIH experts do a bunch of very hard-working doctors and scientists want to have a rock 'n' roll band because it's good for your soul but Dr. Francis Collins will never stop searching for the next medical breakthrough millions sing its praises caliphate Saturday tells us all about Christian rock in 1966. God only. The song became in the class is always negative like God is stuff more than 50 years later the duo for King and country use that old title for a new song with some help from Dolly Parton got another think we said dogs you know 24 times Australian born brothers Joel and Luke's small book or two of the biggest stars in the world of contemporary Christian music.

Let's just say that there is a God, and let's just say that he knows all about better than we know ourselves to God only knows a lot stuff that's a fascinating concept. Christian rock is as old as rock 'n' roll itself, a gospel singer named Sr. Rosetta Thorpe helped create rock 'n' roll, but a new documentary highlights how in the late 1960s, a religious movement grew into a genre of its own and an industry I saw contemporary Christian music more virions. First, there was a clash of cultures. This all start with a bunch of Christian hippies. It actually did it actually did. You can trace it back to around 1960 to 1970 in Southern California, David Stowe teaches religious studies at Michigan State University.

From there it slowly gathered and that we have a huge genre of popular music. The Jesus movement as it was known took hold in the national imagination with scenes of beach baptisms in the Pacific Ocean was music always an important part of it right from the beginning of the music was sort of the entering wedge for popular culture to come into the churches with drug Gateway Drive exactly. I felt so energized and alive because of this group.

I found that this church and Amy Grant is Christian music royalty this time of year. She towards performing Christmas with fellow trailblazer Michael W Smith. Grant started making records in high school, inspired by Carol King and by her Christian faith I always saw myself as somebody that use music to try to create an environment that made people feel welcome and seen I never thought that was like my career, I really did my senior year I thought I had to get a real job. How many records you made by the six by the 1980s.

She was redefining Christian rock with a grin selling millions of records I had conversations early on with the record company just saying how flexible Arlene this he said Jesus told a lot of stories and he said to tell good stories in 1991. Her song baby baby reached number one on the pop charts she's gone mainstream. That song threw me onto the world stage that I had never before. Not everyone was applauding was the reaction when all of a sudden Amy Grant is making big secular hits people raising their eyebrows there beginning to wonder about her spiritual bona fides that maybe she's corrupted by secular success in the Christian rock industry sometimes encourages bands like for King and country to be explicit about their faith. I think it's called GPM's Jesus per minute visits per minute, as we hadn't heard it and we didn't really know anything about it. We just wanted to write songs that felt real in concert. The brothers combine a slick high-energy spectacle with earnest appeal. Luke asked the fans to help feed starving children Joel Lord them to stand up against human trafficking, but in mainstream entertainment. You see, you're not making Christianity better. You're just making rock 'n' roll worse. Christian rock is sometimes treated as a joke. There is this rock 'n' roll mythology of sex drugs and rock 'n' roll. And the question is will happen. You just have the third and leave out the first two sentences is certainly acceptable within certain bounds of marriage.

A lot of coffee gets gets drunk, marriage, coffee and rock 'n' roll video the Christian music industry remains a world of its own, but Amy Grant says she's grateful to be part there are times you know even surrounded by people go awareness that that I love the family thing and I agree with everybody now were all on a faith journey.

Whether were singing about it or not, even admitting it to ourselves. Brothers Joel wanted to see this family and minute faith comes thing we don't write for Christmas. They were named artist of the year at the double Christian version of the Grammy. There is this hunger for the kind of music and also the kind of message write a message of faith and hope there's two ways to get to a place of hopefulness right. One way is to serve Islam, smile and think positive floats these the other way is to actually recognize the struggle probably share it with someone that you care about and have them help you out of the ditch and said to me, that's what music does so for now, Joel small, say their state and spreading the word of the good music and is bad. We try to be on the side of good music that said, we certainly want to say a thousand miles away from biting the hand that seizes if I can speak to a hope.

I hope it will.

To crumble a little bit so that we can all recognize when not that different. Together we raise strong actually is a place where life is like a box of chocolates and just in time for Christmas. Luke Burbank takes a Christmas is almost here, but forget about Santa's workshop.

The place where there really busy cranking out the holiday cheer is the seas, candies, factory in Culver City, California for the last 100 years sees is been a holiday tradition for many do you have a favorite level really do. But her favorite is dark chocolate. Water that Egan is seas Pres. and CEO is a former energy company executive who's turned into a sort of buttoned up Willy Wonka. What was the appeal to to move from that kind of work to song can seas this can be made people happy sounded here in Los Angeles by Charles C.

The company used home recipes developed by his mother Mary, whose picture still hangs in every sees candy shop. We still use a lot of rollover here is an example we still have same recipe with area. It's a recipe that's worked well for the company which has grown from just one shop to over 200 locations mostly west of the Rocky Mountains. But one Midwest fan is Warren Buffett. Yes, the Oracle of Omaha.

In fact, he liked it so much he actually bought the company back in 1972 and owns it to this day. He also orders special personal shipments of candy. Every Christmas is our number one for his gifts is that the order that you know you don't screw that one up were aware whenever filling one billionaires order is actually pretty simple compared to trying to make candy when both sugar and chocolate are ration which is exactly what happened during World War II was well do we substitute that we can maintain production and satisfy a number of customers are banged on the door or do we say will make so much and once it's sold that's it.

And that was the choice of the really good story about if it does, meter standards were just talking to do it and that wasn't the only time sees literally ran out of candy also happened just last year during the pandemic factory shut down, and since seas doesn't use preservatives there candy literally has a shelf life. The sun will actually drop from early March until late April or early May. We donated over candy banks, frontline workers, so you also give away your whole inventory. This early to Egan's great relief seas production lines are up and running again. And if this all looks sort of familiar. Well, there's a reason seal ball in the advance actually trained for that beloved the scene right here in this seas factory Aris SU VP of food safety. Let me try my hand on the assembly line and it was CS. Normally this fast to read. Unfortunately, I was kind of a flaw in the land so I decided to leave it to the experts. After all, we been doing it for 100 years. They must know something. This is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states put her mind to something, we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and empirically as our strategic situation or motor situations not being matched up with follow. Intelligence matters were ever you get your podcasts Christmas Steve Hartman is on the road with secrets but is far from the North Pole. As you can judge of the Sonoran Desert secret Santa is about to do some of his best work ever. This is something I've had in my heart. Years here on the San Carlos Apache tribal lands.

I've always felt inside my soul. I spiritual connection with the Native American and so after a blessing from the medicine man and a briefing for his elf recruits today are on the front lines of kindness. This anonymous wealthy businessman set out to give away $30,000 and hundred dollar bills. Random stranger.

Boy was it well. I nearly half the people who live on this Arizona tribal land lived below the poverty line to put my foot on the table. Mark for my family to eat no food. Eliza Cook says he knows hunger still plans to give away his money goes my father. He needs it more. This is for you. After getting her gift Velma Wilson said she could finally get her grandchildren what they been begging for Letter and yet even here to give you this with the need is so great secret Santa says it's not about the money it's never about the money, whether Native American, African-American, Christian, American left American right American kindness is common language between us all. And maybe that's why most people didn't cry when they got there bills but when he made them feel like a million bucks. You know how special you are.

That's when the joy came your beautiful spirit that's when the tears rolled your example to every mom you're amazing, Malvina Cobb got $400 but valued those comments much more just help me this holiday season. Few of us will have the resources to give like this but Santa says we can all make an equal impact using our wealth of words around as long as some but Christmas time is here is unquestionably a holiday classic. One of David Pogue's all-time favorites. This song ever become a classic melancholy waltz. The court's ruling chance story begins in 1965 when CBS asked producer Lee Mendelson. If you could put together Christmas special in six months. My father cultural shows. He said hey I just sold the children Christmas CVS and Charles Schultz said. What's that Jason Mendelson is Lee Mendelson's son and my father said something you and I have to write over the weekend. Schultz agreed to write the script but the special would need just the right music and that's when Mendelson heard of Vince karate song on the radio one girl. He was a rising San Francisco jazz and Mendelson thought perfect sound music became forever associated openings.

Special became forever associated with the songs just based Mendelson thought time running out words leave just dashed off like basically on the back of a paper bag or something. The children's voices belonged to carry cedar blade Dan Bernhard Dave will it and a few other members of the St. Paul's church youth choir in San Rafael, California. In this group use the recordings you made have probably been listened to more than many of the biggest singers start skill score because about $15. The kids got five dollars for each recording session.

No royalties, not even their names in the credits. It's true that things were a little catch as catch can have with people I and to then just be a part of this iconic show that really touches people for years and years and years is is humbling in that way. Once the special was ready showed to the network executives.

They hated everything about music.

What's is just the animation it's this is not what we expect.

There's religion and there's feelings, but the special was a monster any been on TV every Christmas and 65 Raleigh score became one of the best-selling jazz albums of all the gold record and this is performing. Did Raleigh is Vince's daughter. This is an original Charles Schultz Jew for my father, your dad's at the counter where Schroeder usually sits in Schroeder's right mind really wrote the music for every Charlie Brown special thereafter until February 1976 he was playing small little club and he had gone off from Frank and he hit the ground on the break from he died of a heart attack at age 47. I am proud of who my dad is. I'm so blessed by this life because it pressure then was less than you saying this entire thing in the September 1965.

This is all these three guys Christmas time is here will always be much more class I'm extremely proud. I think it's gotten better about will always okay what did they say, not school. I always encourage your talent and I'm not talking about genius Penelope Cruz. It's tempting to think of the bright lights of Hollywood. But if you want to talk with the Oscar-winning star you need to travel to Madrid, the city in her native Spain where she now resides Holly Williams has a Sunday profile.

I have always said to myself I will never stop being the observer. I don't want to be there one of said how my basic she's a movie star who spent painting the spotlight, Penelope Cruz, she's not interested in that hokey hang onto your sanity as a celebrity yet intensive not be needing either the great things that I said about you needing to buy things just going in your path and I didn't think of life and that's what I consider myself making debut as a teenager, Cruz, now 47 has been dubbed as screen spy critics.

We three Academy award nominations, including one wing. She's the only actress from Spain to take home an Oscar Lasky made few Hollywood films and more films here in Spain, creative, artistic preference, it's also because this is where raising my kids makes me pass a lot of things these years that are so important. I don't want to lease anything within motherhood with some jarring twists and it's already one Cruz the Chris award at the Venice film Festival cruises seventh collaboration with Spanish director Pedro Almodovar who wrote the role for the one of them was a comment but I can't help many more. He calls Cruz. He is use.

She told us it's the most important creative relationship of her career. Both of them she says are… Steve about their work will find you get here about what I think going the way you have a safety net. Knowing that is a fiction that you have to go there with no fear, but he's always there to peeking out from the filler one time I just couldn't come out of and when that happens, any scary but he shows a great feeling when we went to update when we were supposed to go to tell the story early on cruises might screen presence was also noticed Hollywood and she was fluid across the Atlantic, starring budget beaches.

She's one of non-native English speaking hit the big time and frequently compared to Sophia Loren. Do you feel that in Hollywood because of your beauty at times even type cost. I feel like that had great opportunities and that of course I said no to things, especially in the beginning and maybe where I interesting thing because he would just love interest would be unfair for me to tell like that because I've been able to move back and forth finding interesting things most difficult lesson beginning for me was to learn that I have to say no to two other projects have you said no it is in big pots and some big money that I would never say will easily: I think that would be so rude of me to say all cruises diplomatic about the industry, even when it comes to hand name which, it turns out we've been mispronouncing Cruz told us she doesn't mind for the right card. What is the correct pronunciation of your name, growth, growth, crucible cruised one some of the reviews of peccary. If you have role in distilled love will last forever is forever fighting to work. That's why he would always feel complete. Vicky Cristina Barcelona Woody Allen's son love letter to Spain. Cruz played a troubled artist, costarring with Javier by Dan whom she later married, has anybody ever fainted here. It was also the electrifying performance and Cruz maybe soon you will thank you, thank you for having me to know that all these years. Some of the greatest characters for women, but in 2014 controversy surrounding an old allegation of child sexual abuse against Woody Allen was reignited, he vehemently denies the accusation some actors who have worked with Woody Allen have said I regret working with him and I would never work with him again. I don't want to talk about this that want to talk about speaking generally about the media.

Though Cruz told her she has concerns about people being tried in the court of public opinion. The speed of things nowadays is crazy would take minutes to too many.

I took the life of someone for the better for the worse in a way that maybe could be no way back. Cruz is now leaving nearly 6000 miles from Hollywood native may treat. This is truly what feels like home. She has two children with by Dan, who is also an Oscar winner.

What is that working relationship like naturally we don't look for projects to do cost money away would be more comfortable here for schedule. Now I think it's a way to also protect to be working all the time to get will you make more films together once in a while and he says the same way once every day for five years okay is imagery and inspiration to you.

I think it is the patient because he's so full of life. They something in the sphere that is very, but I really warm section in Cruz is back right when she started where talent has 100 global acclaim and a life.

She told us beyond her wildest ambitions and was like dreaming about going to the moon say somebody would have told me at that age. All of those things are going to happen to you know it was like science fiction. I could evening 19 have a holiday tradition of our own here on Sunday morning. Thanks to the young people's chorus of New York City this morning. They perform from the American Museum of Natural History with some company, including Josh Grogan soon you will will you will will will will and in all now in the spirit of the season. I hope you're having a happy holiday can be a lot. It's crazy to think that it all started one guys birthday one guys birthday and it's turned into a whole season makes you wonder when Jesus was alive.

He was one of his friends that was like the heads up that my birthdays, and you have to do anything. But if you want to chop down a tree and put in your living room they'll be cool. You could re-create my first scene with dolls and wanted to get some friends and sing songs about me door-to-door and overdue celebrate the night before my birthday the night before his birthday was like 12 days just 12 days. Men like in the year as one people in January like I'm still recovering from Jesus's birthday by what Jesus would say happy holidays everyone. Once again, the young people's chorus of New York City with Josh Grogan's saw all this all will and in and in and where they will and in and in you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning, Drew Barrymore, all my I want to tell you about our new shell and each episode, Nina weakly got all the quirky find inspiring and informative stories that exist on the ball because well and maybe you do to from the newest interior design trend Barbie car to the right and wrong way to wash her arm.

Also getting the things that you just kind of will probably not able to do in daytime television. So watch out. Tristan is ever you get your podcast good news on the got