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On this week's "CBS Sunday Morning," a panel of historians is releasing its third collection of essays analyzing and assessing the accomplishments and failures of a presidential administration. However, for the first time, a former president, Donald Trump, spoke to the historians to offer his own take on his time in office. Correspondent Rita Braver talks with Princeton University's Julian Zelizer, who assembled the panel, and with the academics who unpack history's first judgment of the 45th president.

He was half of the Washington Post team of reporters who broke the Watergate scandal. But Carl Bernstein's career began as a teenager at the Washington Star, what he has called the best education in journalism. CBS News national security correspondent David Martin talks with Bernstein about his new memoir, "Chasing History: A Kid in the Newsroom," and about how a cub reporter who chased history ended up making it.

Jane Pauley marks the end of an era, when Blackberry, whose mobile devices once served up to 85 million subscribers worldwide, pulled the plug on its phones, shutting down service for good.

David Pogue looks at how TikTok is rewriting the rules of comedy, especially during the COVID lockdown, and talks with TikTokers about their unusual path to fame.

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Learn more@edwardjones.com Jane Cooley, this is Sunday morning. It's been said journalism is the first draft of history during the 12 years that draft were sometimes found in sensational headlines that tended to generate more heat than light. Now, a group of actual historians is considering the presidency of Donald Trump.

It's a monumental task with only one likely outcome like the man himself. Its findings will be met with both praise and condemnation reader braver speaks with some of the men and women taking a first look back because the duration of the United States. So how are historians assessing Donald Trump's presidency, Donald Trump is the president who tried to break things. He came into be a disrupter, and of all his accomplishments.

I think it's very easy to say that he accomplished that one coming up on Sunday morning, a first draft of his three David Martin talks with journalist Carl Bernstein of Watergate fame will remember trailblazing filmmaker Peter Bogdanovich plus a story from Steve Hartman and more on this Sunday morning 9 January 2022 will be back in a moment. This past week marks one year since the closing chapter of Donald Trump's presidency January 6 insurrection at the capital this morning. Reader braver talks with some historians trying to assess the Trump years and their impact on America, there is at least one thing that Donald Trump saw critics and supporters graduation present can agree on about his presidency into be a disrupter, and of all his accomplishments epic. It's very easy to say but he accomplished that one Jeffrey Engel, director of the Center for presidential history at Southern Methodist University is one of a group of historians from leading universities around the country who convened via Zoom last March gives concept of the national interest was identical with his concept of his own. Trump inherited a mess of it was thought that he created a mess, the Middle East was in very bad shape. Their mission assessing one of the most unusual presidencies in American history. This presidency is now ended. One of the most unstable unconventional Julian Salazar of Princeton assembled the panel which will soon publish a book of essays on the Trump presidency.

One thing that historians who've lived through the moment. Have that historians 200 years from now won't have is a sense of what it felt like to live in the moment.

It will be the third volume in the series, which offered mixed assessments of George W. Bush and Barack Obama.

But unlike his predecessors Donald Trump requested to meet via Zoom with the historians. They shared the video of that session with us. I have great respect and I thought of you writing a book.

It would really be nice if we had an accurate book. In fact, we spoke with for the historians all agree that history's judgment of Donald Trump is likely to focus on major events.

His response to the coronavirus pandemic.

It's going to disappear one day is like a miracle, it will disappear, and his role in the insurrection at the US Capitol.

We fight like hell you don't fight like hell to knock it out of the country and we'll get back to those in the moment but first during his one hour session with the group. Former president from focused on what he sees as his administration's major accomplishments largest ever.

For example, generating a strong economy.

Early in his term prior to the pandemic care. We were setting records in every way heat is building of at least part of the wall between the US and Mexico. We did a great job on that and we got. We did a very we did the wall.

The border patrol and he proudly talked of upending US policy toward China.

China was very better trade. You know that I did tariffs everything else and really had a bigger better. It's a policy shift that Pres. Biden has continued Trump I think helped most Americans recognize that China needed to be stood up to and then there were Mr. Trump three Supreme Court appointees likely to tilt the port to the right for decades. But when it comes to the full assessment of the Trump presidency. Historians point out that his accomplishments were often eclipsed by your never before seen in a US president I convey, usually he frequently commanded himself like a really smart then there was his use of social media people were fired or their appointments announced on Twitter and Interpol thieves were announced on Twitter on real confusion, Nicole Hammer of Columbia University also points to Mr. Trump asked him several record of making false claims, beginning when he insisted he had record-breaking crowds at his inauguration looked honest, look like a million people.

Hammer says not all presidency tell the truth all the time, but this one had a singular strategy and is about my weight, everyone can see the crowd sizes. All are but if you are Trump supporter you have to fight with a very different use of live previous presidents sought to unify the country Republican and Democrat. We are all Americans but the historians point out much of president Trump's rhetoric, encouraged a divide his people versus everybody else you work harder, but you are indeed smarter than them. Let's call ourselves from now on the super elite with the super on the one hand, had religion, they felt like they been forgotten and on the other hand, you had say that he emboldened white nationalists and racists. With this very same rhetoric which was it met that he was able to speak to people didn't feel heard was true but study is quite natural. Lesson White Hart movements. Those movements also heard something in what Donald Trump was saying that appealed historians say that connection with white nationalists was on display after they clashed with counter protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017. Very wide people on both sides was a March fueled by this white rate and white backlash.

The president was unable to firmly just announced.

Still, many voters were willing to overlook Mr. Trump's provocative behavior then Kovic hit and polls showed disapproval of his handling of a pandemic that has now killed more than 800,000 Americans were totally under control.

One person coming in from China is talk with the historians, former president Trump acknowledged no mistakes, instead lauding his own handling of the crisis. So we got to work and we did a credible job.

We had a go by from everybody all over the world. It was tough because everybody else wanted to buy the best all of how you don't do with answering the challenge: overall I think Donald Trump not only didn't do bad pretty terribly.

There were many opportunities where he could've taken decisive federal action and pass them up Merlin child climbing in a historian at Columbia University School of Public Health, says that despite Mr. Trump's claims he failed the country in major ways, including the rhetorical stage where president gets to use the pulpit instead used it to flout scientific expertise that I see the disinfectant in minutes.

It is a way we can do something injection, and said knowledge is that Mr. Tom does deserve some credit for the quick development of covert vaccines. There are some people would say my greatest achievement was getting the vaccine, but he adds that his follow through on promoting and distributing the vaccines was weak. He had yeah that's present a grade on how to get them probably go with the D get that extra letter grade for some of the vaccine contributions but the end with the country reeling from coalbed Donald Trump lost his bid for reelection. That's when he started down the path that historians say ultimately led to the other defining moment of his presidency, insurrection, and assault on the US capital as his firm was responded to his repeated false claims of fraud, believing what's come to be known as the big lie is still five present did not like the results of election did not like the fact that he was being voted out and decide that he is personal interests were more important than the constitutional process. Nicole Hammer says it was part of a pattern began with lying about those inaugural crowds.

I think that when his strength back over the course of the Trump presidency now say little lie at the beginning was buy-in for the big lie because that insurrection seemed to be the culmination that so many of the things that we saw as unique as our about his presidency. We will we will never see it doesn't happen was terribly destabilizing and dangerous members of Congress and the vice president under threat part of a mob that's been instigated by the president, Mr. Trump denied that allegation. It was very modest many ways was a very peaceful speech but there was a lot of and there was a lot of love was tremendous love. Mr. Trump did not discuss the fact that he was impeached for his role in inciting the riots, becoming the first president in history to be impeached twice.

The first for his efforts to pressure Ukraine into investigating the Bidens know he was never convicted. He's not the first president with a troubled term in office, but still in the listing of American presidents.

Yet many people believe is closer.

Certainly Herbert Hoover presidents on the finding who left the country in a bad and the presidency did and with the economy incredibly fragile and unstable. It ended with the pandemic raging and it ended with the country more divided than United from when he started. If you had to give him a grade. I don't think that a presidency that peaceful transfer can be anything other failure. Mr. Klumpp still has strong influence in the Republican Party while teasing our possible White House run in 2024. Nevertheless, historians. We spoke to along with those in the recent C-SPAN survey predicts that in the long run, Donald J. Trump will be relegated to the bottom tier of American presidents Jeffrey Engel of Southern Methodist University, Donald Trump has a unique distinction is the only president who refuse to honor democracy, stop and think about that sentence. It makes my mouth say how can you say these words and yet I don't think the wrong this is. Intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for any your sustained great power competition states put on my to something we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we could've no analytically and empirically as our strategic situation or motor situations not being matched up with follow. Intelligence matters were ever you get your podcasts.

Speaking of first drafts of history, Kyle Bernstein, wrote perhaps the most famous of our time. David Martin catches up with the legendary reporter who helped uncover the Watergate scandal always had. All good reporting shame best obtainable version of truth you know Carl Bernstein is half of the most famous byline in journalism.

Woodward and Bernstein. The Washington Post reporters who uncovered the Watergate scandal old were you when you were shown to cover the word house 28 young but not green Bernstein had better news room since it was a teenager forming a part of my being a reporter occurred from ages 16 to 21 great old-fashioned newspaper, the Washington Star not to post should I just finish my junior year of high school, sorted 1 foot in the juvenile court in 1 foot trying to figure out what I was going to do with my life because it wasn't exactly going right's new book chasing history is the prequel to Woodward and Bernstein's classic work all the Presidents men begins with the moment he first set foot inside a neutral.

It was the most exciting energy and like they were in the most urgent bearings in the nation and typing away on deadline he had worn marketable skill. I have taken typing with the girls in 10th grade archetype about 90 words so you got her I got hired as what is a copy boy $29 a week. Washington Star has since gone the way of most afternoon papers and cease to public have to be a certain age to remember stories you should watch the Washington store was probably the best afternoon newspaper in the country at the store he was surrounded by Pulitzer prize-winning reporters men and women did you have role models sued upstream a lot someone else also. He was a great great years later at the Washington Post bursting work for another great editor the brush in – and been breathless/day and I sure start absolutely sure is played by Jason Robards in the movie all the Presidents men, Bradley gave Bernstein, played by Dustin Hoffman's biggest worth having a lowly local news reporter on the biggest political scandal in American history, but it was Epstein who gave him his first 1961 completion: that was the snowbound inauguration of John Kennedy Bernstein covered crowd reaction as the new president and his glamorous wife robot then came the assassination and doubts bursting.the terrible news from another report should look good, some moments took dictation as the grim facts were phoned in from Dallas to priest walked out down tomorrow Parkland Hospital 1:10 PM today and announced, quote the president is restricted still a teenager and living like one. Bernstein started to land stories on the front page. But his college transcript was littered with D's and F's job want to go to class. The defogger flunked out without a college degree. The store would not promote it so he wrangled a job interview with an editor at the Washington Post you think you can really do this the best education for this business. Washington Star, 1972 the streetsmart Bernstein teamed up with the Ivy League Woodward asked on what started as a third-grade burglary and ended with the resignation of the present nothings riding on this except the First Amendment of the Constitution, freedom of the press and maybe the future the country the kid who changed history ended up making what were talking about are really hinges of history. I was lucky enough just to be 16 years old.

He gets the greatest country the new year has barely begun.

But Steve Hartman already see some signs of hope. Clairvoyant Winslow Elliott knows what were feeling anytime there's uncertainty or anxiety. People want another future. So I asked Winslow to shuffle up her to ask a question, yes, but I don't want a reading for me okay I want a reading for the future of the United States of America. What lies ahead for the year.

Okay uneasy question. Interesting on everyone's mind some 2022 has already dropped the ball already spewed in the resurrection of our insurrection. We see people stuck in traffic for hours and in airports for days. We've seen a spike in covert cases, triggering a nationwide epidemic of déjà vu. So how will we manage light into the future Winslow that answers a higher octave of where we are now. Unfortunately, they went way over my crown chakra going and where it time does anything hearsay were going to be okay. It's not good, but there was one card to go and I'll show you that the first look at the wildcard in this query that resilient group of Americans who dictate their own future, always taking whatever lousy hand they are dealt. And somehow finding basis. Whether it's the woman who turned her airport away ukulele was the stranger broke red from I-95 to help out. We saw smiles pop up in the most unlikely place. The outpouring surprises you, Heidi and Steve lost everything in the Colorado fire but have since been flooded with goodwill great comfort. People sending care packages donating names we don't know were trying to do most of his name is remarkable. I hear stories of kindness like that wonder is our future faded, or is it designed from the way we treat one another. That's what I believe in Winslow. What's the last one, or someone out all agrees it's a kind of choosing love. Got a post holiday yen for a little something sweet Lucy craft in Tokyo can help nestled beside a Buddhist temple, the time the ramshackle shop with its weatherbeaten showcases is easy to miss for the pint -sized, these humble shelves are Willie Wonka canceling Gretel and Candyland all rolled up into one a beloved Japanese institution known as at the Garcia local penny candy shop.

The Garcia needs a seller of cheap inferior traits to customers that penny candy shop is priceless/hit only yesterday was released in 1991. The creators immortalized this candy store founded in the 18th century in a promotional poster for the film myself. Luciana has worked the counter for 70 years 13th generation of her family to operate the store girls will come back as adults when they turn 20.

And then when they have kids of their own. She said regular stores don't get to watch their customers grow up like I do, lured by delicacies like squid on a stick, roasted, soybean bonbons and fortune-telling chocolate buttons kids get a sweet lesson on how to tote up their bill figure out the change and request a favorite snack supermarket. She said you can shop without saying a word here. You need to learn to speak up its food designed to be resistible good looking Moto a buyer for snacks. Company books to error all kinds of little thing everywhere that are attractive for kids.

It's just different colors and different flavors. How much time would you spend there.

Choosing what to buy. I sell when I learned those times I use to bring hundred and 200 and which is like a dollar or two dollars strategizing for hours which items I could get with my limited pocket money across town deeply out Takashi shop is a little piece of paradise for the preschool to preteen crap inside the cramped store kids agonize over a breathtaking assortment of treats there pink sweet-and-sour radish slices Sebring shaped wafers stuffed with chocolate, sugar, candy, whistles, and tiny imitation pork cutlets, to name just a few.

Search eat delicious and easy to eat these boys said even a small piece fills you up. Takashi you exert such a powerful hold on the popular imagination some Tokyo bars offer all you can grab shelves with fewer kids around. Nowadays, competition from big stores Takashi are fast disappearing relic of the slower time.

Japan is already starting to miss.

It happened on Tuesday the end of an era.

The day the blackberry entered the history books at its peak in 2013, there were some 85 million BlackBerry subscribers will the pioneering and hugely popular mobile device was pushed aside by iPhones and other high-tech options. And this past week blackberry pulled the plug and shut down service for good. Once again the blackberry is just a fruit but really good for you.

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