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On this week's "CBS Sunday Morning," Correspondent John Dickerson speaks with political experts about President Joe Biden's first year in office.

The incomparable Liza Minnelli, sits down with Jane Pauley to discuss how she still continues to honor the works of Gershwin and the life of her mother, Judy Garland.

Kirsten Dunst, who has starred in such films as "Interview with the Vampire," "Melancholia" and "Spider-Man," is getting Oscar buzz for her poignant acting in Jane Campion's period drama, "The Power of the Dog." She sits down with Correspondent Luke Burbank.

"Leave It To Beaver" actor Tony Dow talks with Correspondent Jim Axelrod about looking beyond the curse of being linked forever to the character of Wally Cleaver.

Finally, Did Thomas Edison really invent the light build? Contributor David Pogue finds out!

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Let's partner for all of it. Learn more@edwardjones.com Jane Pauley and this is Sunday morning this week marks a year since Joe Biden was sworn in as the 46th President of the United States. It's been a year marked by some major legislative victories, but plenty of disappointments to all playing out in the shadow of covert and unsettled economy and more. John Dickerson take stock of how Pres. Biden and our divided nation are doing one year on one year ago today. Presidents get credit and blame for what they do and for things they have no control over. Lyndon Johnson said that sometimes means the job is like being a jackass in a hailstorm. You just have to sit there and take it how's Joe Biden doing can't really claim that this is been a victorious year if it's okay, it's coming up this Sunday morning, taking stock of Joe Biden's first year in office for Liza Minelli. The word legend runs in the family this morning. We're catching up. I love that I love you whenever it's been a while since we've seen Liza Minelli to an audience audience saying to you, so was it 111 Liza Luke Burbank talks with Kirsten Dunst about her talked about new movie Jim Axelrod catches up with the beavers big brother were talking classic sitcoms actor Tony down plus a story from Steve Hartman opinion from historian Douglas Brinkley and more on this Sunday morning January 16, 2022 and will be back after this. Pres. Biden's first year in office is been marked by both big plans and nagging problems. John Dickerson considers the high and the lows is a cliché of politics, the candidate's campaign in poetry govern in prose we lift our gaze is not what stands between us. But what stands before us, but it Joe Biden's inauguration Amanda Gorman's poetry anticipated the rough pros to come.

We seen a forest that would shatter our nation rather than share. It would destroy our country if it meant delaying democracy.

Workers were still repairing the windows in the capital behind her from a violent attempt to overturn the election results the broken glass is gone now, but not the threat. I suddenly feel like the sun has not sent on January 6 that the the day continues. Joe Lepore is a Harvard University historian, so long as the eye that an armed insurrection against the democratically elected president being certified into officer taking office is seen as legitimate and defended as legitimate or not repudiated by so many public figures. I hated evoke images of such violence, but it just seems to me like it's his series of buried landmines through the lens of the January 6 convulsion the Biden administration at the one year mark is a success merely because it exists at all. Democracy held but presidencies are viewed through many lenses and anyway you look at it. The first Biden year looks muddy. How's Joe Biden doing drugs during okay. He ran for president on this promise of a return to normalcy returned to America, maybe not quite as it was before. Present front but much less chaotic. Jamel Buie is a columnist for the New York Times, the persistence of the pandemic in the process of the pandemic disruption American society.

I think means that Biden can't really claim that this is been a victorious year. It's okay. It's this is not the chance Biden wants to hear at the next rally for more men.

The Blunt's story of the Biden presidency is told in his approval ratings. They started to drop last summer with America's messy departure from Afghanistan and have continued to fall. While covert cases, crime and inflation have been rising presidency that started with heady comparisons to FDR now invites the headline it's not over for Joe Biden, but history tells us that the Blunt just story is not always the lasting one, especially for presidents in their first year impressions people have one year in very rarely have any bearing on how the presidency at the end of the first term or second term. How the person is seen in history.

Author James Fallows was a Carter speechwriter Jimmy Carter who is history. Nose was not reelected was extremely popular in his first year in office. Carter's first year approval rating was higher than Ronald Reagan's and his party lost fewer seats in the midterm house elections than Reagan did go Reagan is considered the more successful president measuring presidents in the moment is hard, says Joe Lepore because people focus only on what's right in front of them like a protracted global pandemic. This how you measure president day-to-day case numbers. Does that basically mean the approval rating is a general thermometer of public feeling and of the public's unhappy president is the best-known politician is the one that gets blame yeah I think that's what is a proxy for the national mood rather than an evaluation of efficacy of an administration rate day-to-day to evaluate the efficacy of the administration with trumpet was a little different because people didn't know what Trump was doing every day because he was tweeting all day long. Being president means sitting in the national complete window. You are the target of public anger whether you caused the problem or not. Biden success delivering vaccines into arms was undermined by ideological hesitancy and viral variants. Those aren't his fault, but he is responsible for the mixed public health messages, and the president admitted being caught flat-footed on testing contract role on the website next week where you can order free test shipped to your home. The withdrawal from Afghanistan fits a similar pattern. Some part of public upset was the inevitable unpleasant assault of doing what the public wanted. But it's also true that the Biden team failed to account for how quickly the country would fall. Biden made the decision to leave Afghanistan so he can be judged up or down based my decision.

I judge him up on that because it is what his predecessors have said what he promised and was running then there's the execution and there is room for fair commentary about whether the human cost was mostly grief even if the decision to leave Afghanistan have been carried out in the most perfect possible way it would've been a tragedy. There on the economy, inflation in December.

Rose 7% spike that hasn't been seen since 1982 during Ronald Reagan's first term and that economists in both parties predicted would be caused by Biden's early spending programs. I've lived through times of hyperinflation.

I've lived through times of mass layoffs. Let me tell you, mass layoffs are way worse the trauma to families and to communities and the companies is much worse than the general problem of inflation, the unemployment rate is moving in a more encouraging direction just 3.9%, down from 6.3 at the start of Biden's tenure is probably the strongest economy for workers if you have some time, but gets no credit for any of this. Columnist Jamel Buie without credit for a strong economy and with the resistant Republicans and and the Democratic Party, but is feeling unenthusiastic.

He's in a tough spot. Democrats are unenthusiastic because Biden has not been able to pass the robust social spending legislation. He initially proposed or voting rights legislation tough to do when Democrats have the thinnest possible majority in the Senate and can only afford to lose three Democrats in the house. So as you feel that given the margins of Biden faces has been stymied or is this just kind of a slow process that it takes when you have these kind of margins. I think I'm somewhere in between the two.

Bill pending on how you count is either $600 billion, or $1.1 trillion in the quarterly bill was $1.9 trillion a year present buying the sign $3 trillion spending into law which is I believe more than proud of the Democratic process were signed in his entire years in office to buy back standard I'm doing great but by the center of the coalition and the coalition's expectations and by think the ministrations of dictations is probably behind Biden, feeling the heat from his base signaled his urgency about voting rights. Quiet conversation Congress for the last quiet, neither quiet nor loud worked at the end of last week, Democratic senators mentioned in cinema wouldn't support changing Senate filibuster rules to pass voting reform.

I hope you get the stuff youngster got answer is I don't know the same day the Supreme Court struck down the administration's employer vaccine mandate another setback at the end of the first year of Joe Biden's presidency, which means the second year starts not with poetry or prose, but with the blues luck is nearly always wind up getting matinee toning down and Jerry Mathers in the 1950s TV had leave it to beaver so happened to Wally Jim Axelrod catches up with an older wiser Tony down.

This piece is the second piece I ever did this a call alter ego in the studio where he spent the last 20 years, sculpting meditations on our humanity. What is the emotion or feeling you're getting at here is going to represent hope. This artist is carving a gnarled piece of burled wood into a dramatic figure will then be cast in bronze wrestling, some sense of off is from this life so often presents this face is pain is pain in your changing to what one of hope as many as 50 hours of work go into a single piece before it's ready for his signature tea that once you start a peace that piece takes control what it does is it tells you what you need to do next. Finally, at the age of 76. The artist is happy to relinquish control of his work. It wasn't always like that from the time I was 11 or 12, I was being told what to do. I was told on the set I was cold at home.

I didn't have control of my life, he would literally given your lines yeah yeah is Tony down at the age of 12. Again, starring as Wally on leave it to be a TV series depicting the conversion of midcentury American life challenge in my pocket to mom. These are all pans and to show so popular it's never left the screen since its debut in 1957 was the genius of leave it to beaver.

Well, the genius of leave it to beaver was that the show was written from a child's point of view, born in Hollywood Tony Dow was a competitive swimmer as a kid when he tagged along with his coach to an audition coach didn't get the part but as his mother told him at lunch, Tony got an offer I took a bite of my hamburger took a sip of my mall and I said the okay and there went my life. Why just got compass exactly how it works but we start out somewhere supposed to type which way you're going overnight. Dow's life headed in the direction no compass could help them navigate the teen heartthrob before he could drive his adolescents unfolded in front of millions as he played the polite, trustworthy, all-American, big brother didn't think Wally was going to define you know I didn't.

But it did. Yes sir, I was going to have to live with it for the rest of my life.

I thought this isn't fair. I mean, I'd like to do some other stuff I'd like to do some interesting stuff you sad to be famous or 12 years old or something and then you grow up and become a real person and nothings happening for you. This is turned to anger setting Tony Dow up for a struggle that would mark the rest of his life.

Anger only if it's untreated anger turns to depression, but depression isn't something you can say cheer up about its pensive, very powerful thing and it it's had a lot of effect on my life learning Dow is Tony's wife of 41 years like to listen to Tony talk about the depression. Well, I'm very proud of him for talking about it for dealing with it and for sharing it with others. She's helped to balance the curse of being linked forever to Wally by helping him see clearly the blessings when you fall in love with his sweet and this softness, vulnerability and hate to do this is through Triton cliché, but spit it out.

Sounds like Wally is ready Wally and him. I think there's a lot of Tony in the character their inner twined. Wally was very much like Tony silver battens and crystal and artist herself. She makes mosaics in her own space and their shared studio. I think the art is like the best thing for him and his criticism very interesting things while depressed down to creditors are combined with medication and therapy for getting a handle on his depression and I got it under control pretty much I think people should take the leap of faith that they can feel better the world of above is ideal and beautiful. The whole series is in the air in two weeks. Can you do it still takes an occasional acting job always aware of it. Wally is working nearby but no longer troubled by. I felt that way, probably from the time I was 20.

Maybe until I was 40 and then at 40, I realized how great the show was how appreciative I should be being in that show around his home in the hills above Los Angeles are plenty of signs of that appreciation apparent from the fictional Mayfield high. Wally attended a bound collection of leave it to beaver scripts is something about nostalgia, even a box of corn flakes with Tony and Jerry Mathers, who played the beaver all grown up. This is my very first car that I ever have dinners driveways suit so sleepy example of the benefits Wally Cleaver still provides Tony down his first car in 1961 Corvair he bought with leave it to beaver money only to sell four years later you're sure this is it. I'm sure that the same license plate for the guy who bought it died a few years ago he decided to leave it to Tony returning the car and with it a reminder that perspective is the foundation of making peace with pain so anyway pretty cool.

It is one of the rewards of being who you are and you will find yeah yeah me all this positive stuff that I should be thinking about all the stuff I think about this is intelligence matters with former acting Dir. of the CIA. Michael Morel bridge Colby is cofounder and principal of the Marathon initiative project focused on developing strategies to prepare the United States for an era of sustained great power competition states put our mind to something, we can usually figure it out what people are saying and what we can know analytically and empirically as our strategic situation or motor situations not being matched up with follow.

Intelligence matters were ever you get your podcasts all Spider-Man was Mary Jane Watson as played by Kiersten Dunn in the movie Spider-Man Luke Burbank tells us dunces later star turn this similar reaction from fans and critics alike.

Kiersten Dunstan remembers shooting a particularly poignant scene from her new film, the power of the dog in it.

She and her real life partner Jesse Plemons plate to deeply lonely people who finally find a connection in 1920s Montana said how nice it is not one another. I felt like all my God is still so corny right now to be this proper little silly to be honest, but Dunst had complete faith in director Jane Campion so she went along very director to reconcile this great couch and like her next writing. I really would've done that faith seems to have been well placed is the power of the dog and Dunst performance in particular are getting rave reviews and even rumors of Oscar consideration for Dunst, now 39, an Academy award nomination would be the latest step in a life spent in front of the camera starting at age 3 in New Jersey when her mother would driver into New York City for modeling gigs, but it was her role at age 11 as Claudia in an interview with the vampire opposite Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt that really put her on the map of Empire going insane in my school like never before was a worldwide search said that I was a really I knew that it would be a life-changing first star was rising fast. With roles in classics like little women useful to educate Indies.

Like the Virgin suicides. It's like bring it on the chair and blockbusters like the Spider-Man franchise going back to Spider-Man speak out on the nose like a safety always like that.

I got to go back to the site to this homebase of working with these people again.

And yet, amidst all the outward success. Something inside Dunst just didn't feel right and at age 27, she checked yourself into a Utah rehab facility for treatment for depression. I just really was very much more people pleaser now I think you just growing up in that industry.

Your wanting to do good for the director wanted to get together act like there's a lot of pleasing and I think that that starts to affect someone unconsciously or whenever and for the hat and I think that like something that I think is just like part of being a human being. Now did you consider walking away from acting at that point I knew, however I approach acting had to change so there was like more cathartic when entering into our role as opposed to performing as I was like free.

Basically to try anything and not feel fearful at all.

That's on display in the power of the dog when her character rose Gordon develops a drinking problem.

Dunst resorted to an unusual acting technique. I will come out of the house a lot in distress and sell yes spinning around in circles is my very helpful track. Closing your eyes and spinning around circle like rolling your dislike will then ask Kiska stumble out of house.

The final product seems to have paid off with one review saying few actors have played drunk as convincingly or sympathetically. The fact that the project let her work with partner and fellow costar Jesse Plemons is also a plus gross. The couple has lived in Austin Texas during much of the pandemic, raising their two small boys. Is it just because of less paparazzi attention everything care less better with children.

The parks are nice there like general assist like I'm living after a life spent making movies. Dunst understands just how unique this moment is for like has to be giving a performance of the weakest link in like so many things and then everyone has to like it when it's a rare thing that happens I picked but if the Oscars don't come calling. I figure something else out. I love my life separately. It's not like all of my confidence and everything is wrapped up in this industry like I think finding Jesse having children, stability, and it gives you when you find a person like a way that just grounds. Here, your life, so it feels like a time that like I can really really so things and appreciate and feel good about the story of a lifelong love that almost got away for most of her adult life 68-year-old Chief Justice and suffered from chronic regret can't turn back the clock. I wish it could, would you do anything different. Yes, I would've married married what Jean so regrets is breaking up with her college sweetheart, so this is the spring of 72 guy she met the German club at Loyola University in Chicago this is Stephen I'm back here Jean says he would've made the perfect husband letter memories here only been white. My mother was absolutely left to say.

What did she say how can I disgraced the family. It was pretty, partly because of those pressures. Jean broke up with Steve Watts never saw him again until a few months ago when she tracked him down at the Chicago nursing home.

What I found was sort of a broken man like Jean Steve was divorced with no kids, but life for him much harder. He fallen on terrible times.

He was homeless and two strokes was almost unrecognizable.

Today Jean walked back into his life, but he still the wonderful gorgeous man that I knew that all those feelings come rushing back. Yes for both of us.

And so with her mother no longer in the way Jean made arrangements to move Steve from the nursing home to her home in Portland Oregon.

I feel terribly lucky that I get a second chance. Steve's health issues have left him bedridden, but his mind is sharp in his heart. John, in fact, if you listen closely you can still hear his devotion unwavering, after all these years all race drove its wedge and love wormed its way back in. Their story isn't over.

I don't think is a proposed liberty to say, hypothetically, if he did propose what would your answer be yes. Sounds like a follow-up. Should I book a ticket stopping number from the film 50 years later, the movie still stands out and so does it*legendary linesman and be nice. We caught up with Liza Minnelli where she is most race at the piano with Michael Feinstein and attune by George and Ira Gershwin will you still the one and only Liza yet even now uncertain of her own immeasurable gifts.

Do you recognize that you have achieved this status of legend to be told a lot like Michael's great team fluently was nice. Somebody else is, no one knows Liza like Michael Feinstein, her best friend. You understand human nature better than almost anyone I know. I think that's one of the things about her. I think that's why she's a great artist because she's able to channel a fundamental understanding of the human condition into her takes talent from the stone he won her first tee and Oscar and me in a single year made it a grand slam tickling her birthright. She was just a toddler when she appeared with her mother Judy Garland in the movie musical in the good old summertime whisper can film director Vincent Minnelli was a Hollywood giant in his day, Fred Astaire, Gene Kelly K.

Thompson, literally household names all these wonderful people.

My parents said to me you are your own. This 17 she began to see herself faced gate was initially called best foot forward off-Broadway, and I mean all walked on stage that wasn't me I was the person that I knew so much about because I love so much about her habits about her thoughts November 1964 London's famed lady just on this look. Judy Garland died five years later, four months before the premier of the sterile cuckoo in 1969. Liza's Oscar-nominated performance at 23. Think which is astonishing but I knew that so well.

I really tried to get upright. Thank God I did in 1972 credit, he changed my entire life has no for some call the greatest entertainer of the 20th century to deliver. I was not because my mom was the best in the world. See Charles and he's saw, but it wasn't his voice that got what got me was why he was just wanted to know.

He told that story to this for even help shape her Oscar-winning performance and Bob Fosse's version of Cabernet also directed TVs Liza wearing that pixie cut show is over and shot off and the look on your face is it's uncertain is not joyful to Michael. We go up in the mood and everything was with if she was my dark side. Following her mother down the road to addiction were also failed marriages and all captured by the prying the paparazzi is currently working with Michael Feinstein as executive producer of an upcoming album called Gershwin country and producing his or celebrating Judy Garland, 100th birthday this year. 175.

Liza Minnelli doesn't performance and often so this is something special. I see I see you like this one unquote now I just want people to know that I've been to what they've been to tomorrow. Of course, is the holiday marking the birthday of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. which prompts these thoughts from historian Douglas Brinkley. Why is it so hard for Americans to vote these days, it shouldn't be. After all, and a free democratic society. No right is more precious. The equations really simple, no universal voting rights. No democracy nearly 6 decades ago we thought we won this war as part of the civil rights struggle. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. exposed all the Jim Crow tricks designed to keep black voters from registering in casting their ballots, including literacy tests pull closer some police intimidation. In early 1965. King organize peaceful voting rights demonstrations in Selma, Alabama, only to be arrested.

Then, just over a month later, on a day that came to be known as Letty Sunday. Alabama state troopers and sheriff deputies gas 600 peaceful marchers crossing the Pettus Bridge while TV cameras roll, causing the national outbreak in the wake of that violence. Then Pres. Johnson addressed to televise joint session of Congress on March the demanding that legislators enact expansive voting rights legislation.

He concluded with words from the popular civil rights anthem, and we shall overcome. In short order.

The voting rights act of 1965 became law, loaded with provisions ensuring that rural state and local elections would at last be free, fair, and racially inclusive in the years to come. The act proved to be a triumph of freedom in 2022 that historic achievement is being dismantled Republican-controlled state legislatures writing laws that impede voter registration reduce early voting hours cut the number of polling places in urban areas limit mail and in dropbox voting and politicize how elections are run. Meanwhile, GOP gerrymandering of legislative districts trying to lock in Republican-controlled what the state level, no matter how many people vote for the other person.

Sound familiar, it should. It's the new Jim Crow. That's why the national rallying cry. This Dr. King holiday should be a member Selma remember the sacrifices made then to guarantee voting rights for all Americans now remember that other great civil rights leader John Lewis been beaten by police on that bloodiest Sunday and in whose name Democrats are trying to pass the new voting rights advancement act as Dr. King said so powerfully 1965 on the you for listening. Please join us when our trumpet sounds again next Sunday morning this week. Stephen Long live Mitch McConnell in one of Washington's biggest midterm monument list for me to Senate races you think Republicans have the best chance of taking a democratic seed with Nevada not Georgia. George is right up there with New Hampshire's products to New Hampshire people really just kind of don't like you have for more from this week's conversation followed the take-out with Maj. Garrett on Apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts