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July 16, 2022 9:00 am

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July 16, 2022 9:00 am

Former White House Press Secretary and Fox News Contributor Ari Fleischer has a new book out, “Suppression, Deception, Snobbery, and Bias” Why the Press Gets So Much Wrong – And Just Doesn’t Care”

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You know you are leaders with your geography and your maps in your spelling. Even though my reading your reading your geography known other countries. All those lives on the map only limit leaders know where Ukraine is getting a hold of Clark's that was a good when I needed that so that you see cut from Don Lemmon with Rick Wilson and another ponding talking about down from voters and Donald Trump into the they just expand on with who they think Donald Trump is who they have no respect for and they have almost 0 respect for the people that support them so that comes out to.

I don't know 74 million people and to sit there and mock and and and laugh like that. Got to Ari Fleischer and he was one of the first chapters in scene. The first chapter of his brand-new book that is outside this week and it is called suppression deception snobbery. They heard the Sabri and bias why the press gets so much wrong and just doesn't care.

Ari welcome back. Congratulations on the book. Thank you Brett. It's excellent, but I wanted to bring that to like this you you chronicle this. Did you watch that in real time was a pretty retention owner. I watch that real time to write this book. I just I watched a lot of CNET and I was repulsed and just stood out at me that this sums everything up. This is the problem that the press cannot understand that half this country to intellectually proudly happily support somebody else named Donald Trump for all his flaws for all strengths.

That's what half the country thinks that the mainstream media looks down their noses and does not understand America because they don't like these people. So I would say this I can ever picture a roundtable mocking Hillary Clinton supporters but Hillary Clinton also mocked by Fox of Hillary Clinton also mocked Trump supporters. I think your point.

What I get from the book is not just about Trump trumps the most extreme example, but it's Republicans.

In particular, they just don't understand they don't understand people who were raised to go to church every week.

They don't understand people who pray they don't understand people whose fathers taught them how to hunt and his grandfathers taught them how to hunt are people who think that life began at conception and that abortion actually might be murder to some people that we can have disagreements about what bright policies are but I was raised in Bryant bride to respect the other side, they have different opinions.

Maybe it's because I was raised in a democratic family so I love my from my family. I want to beat them. I wanted to feed them at the elections. I will not mock them right will respect them right. Everyone breaks of the table. By the way, that just with the kids Republicans. I'm not having tolerance, the party of white people men first women, second only cares about one race and the reason why and where white people are paranoid about losing the power that they've historically had where you're seeing nonstop intolerance, which explains their vulnerability to one of the chapters in my book gets into suppression of the name, suppression, deception, snobbery, and biases because they deceive people by putting these on the air that's wrong and then they suppressed news so Madeleine leader worked at the Democratic National Committee they had an opening at the DNC for job and she sent out an email to all her friends saying we have this opening.

I don't want any straight white males to apply. If you know anybody else on the my way would have a job. Could you imagine Bryant summary the RNC put out a email for a job opening and said the only people who should apply straight white males, or we don't want any gay email get gay female Blacks to apply hell would a broken loose.

It wouldn't front page lead the networks everywhere, the chairwoman of the RNC would've had to resign but you know what happened to Madeleine leader's email ignored by the New York Times, ignored by the Washington Post, ignored by CBS, CNN, ABC, no one covered my book is full of stories like that about intolerant, narrowminded, bigoted, wrong things the Democrats saying get away with it.

But if you're Republican you say one syllable wrong.

The press will hammer you and when Trump was making mistakes, and press try to hammer him. He hit back twice as hard and they couldn't handle it. And then when he won the can understand it, and their goal was to take him down right this is a big part of my book, one of the reasons the mainstream media is so off the rails right now in the present did speak to you for the book yet.

I interviewed president trouble tight about that, but one of the reasons things are the way they are is because the press took it upon themselves the mainstream media to right the wrong that the people carried out in 2016 by electing Donald Trump.

The press was part of the resistance they never accepted the will of the voters. When people elected Donald Trump, the pressure that accepted it and being remained neutral remained objective, but they became activists to fix the Republic to save the Republic from the risk that they saw from their warped Democratic liberal college-educated point of view, the Trump was bad enough, Trump should be subject to criticism from a neutral, objective point of view, and that's what went wrong. You might not like his tweets but you have to salute the Abraham records. You may, you might not. You might not like the way he approached the tax reform during a reconciliation, but you have to notice that it did help spur on the economy and maybe take note to people: for reduction.

The corporate rate for about 15 years including Barack Obama and George Bush. He got it done. Brett, I regularly supported his policies defended him on collusion live on the air because collusion allegations from the beginning didn't make sense to me and I criticizes behavior criticizes tweets. I will continue to call balls and strikes. When I watched have to press the mainstream media was covering Donald Trump. It fired me because I just thought they are so bad so wrong. They are their own worst enemy. So, my book blows the whistle on them and it tells the tale of how bad wrong deceive in suppressive. They are bulimic at present a trumps what interviewed him for the book and I was at Mara Lago and I brought my iPad on my iPad. I had loaded so all I do is hit a button.

Some of the worst, nastiest coverage of him. I made him watch so I started talk to him about the mainstream media's unfair coverage and I said remember when he went to Japan and your feet and Koi fish and CNN Dr. the video and the cut out by Mr. Abe of Japan feeding the Koi fish by dumping his whole box into the water that cut that out. They showed you dumping your whole box in the water and made it look like you don't even know how to feed a Koi fish that was silly. It was frivolous, but it turned into a mini feeding frenzy. So I played for Trump never seen it before, and his reaction was, I don't understand the press I did exactly what my host by Mr. Abe did and they criticized me for as I was able to capture him actually watching how bad the presses and share his reaction with the readers what else is on the real on the real on my yeah on the on that you showed him there were other incidents of terrible press covers a lot of different CNN a lot of from the New York Times. Some of the dealing with collusion and in I would press him one of my favorite parts was I said to him, if you would want a second term you think things would been different. So this is 2021 that just came in 2021.

After he was out of office as to what would be different in the press. He said want to be different. They haven't learned their lessons and nothing would be different. I also said to him, did you ever think your press coverage would be good.

And how would that change the way you served your presidency and he said during the transition in 2016. He thought he was struck, it really fair coverage really neutral coverage and then he recognized there only here to bash me and I almost got a sense that he would've pulled himself down OU if things had been fair and neutral to him as opposed to unabashed resistance. It was with a rush inclusion thing hanging over them to threaten to destroy him, oust him from office not drive his approval ratings and drive him out and knowing that knowing what we know now and I read the whole report know we know now.

Can you imagine sitting there every day seeing the stories ricocheting around, not based in fact, you point out some of them in your book or if I should hear Ari Donald Trump Junior for example, when a Donald Trump Junior do. He they had the accused him of emails been able to get email links email the emails ahead of time with this special code that anything he had and such ricocheting out it's not even a story in the over the skunk that becomes a story in every network every single hour and there would it turns out not to be the case in a multiple sources into being two sources, and ends up being undisclosed sources which you will you point out the book that gets a new life like never before school sources.

No never apologizes notable walks back to don't spend time apart.

You know, writing the ship. CNN led the league and retract the stories and on the one your Tom Bell and moderns say they don't necessarily stop all that they just hope the nobody paid attention yet again, is why I wrote the book. As I paid attention on the blow my whistle on these people because it's wrong it hurts our democracy. When people cannot watch the news or pick up a paper and say I believe it and CNN largely did it to itself. Couple things to point out you discovered it to when you would with you with George W. Bush and you go to Columbia and you just curious to see why people seem to be bias and you ask a question what were the questions that you asked recently at Columbia was the one who was the result in what was what would you first asked that this is so 1998 wasn't this so fun in 1998 I was on Capitol Hill.

12 students from Columbia journalism school, came down the hill and had other meetings to talk about journalism and at the end of my talk to them.

Like I said to them you in the 96 election voted for Clinton and how many for goal and I said Clinton first 11 hands went up for Bill Clinton voters since only one of you voted for Bob Dole in the 12 guy in the room said no. I voted for Ralph Nader 612 nothing twice deleting journalism school, arguing the country around reputation very prestigious effete summary of the Washington and New York newsrooms 22 years later motivated back to Columbia go to their campus in New York City and I asked the same question. This is in 2021 2020.

But it was after the 2020 March 2024 covert hip so I said in the 2016 election. How do you voted for Hillary Clinton. How many voted for Donald Trump 12 nothing for Hillary 2410 nothing. Brian is how Columbia journalism school's graduating students wise the 12 to 12 wives and 24 Republicans and zero Democrats.

If you don't think the media would be different. Right field in the New York Times and Washington Post, ABC would be different if journalists were different. You know how journalism works and in the perfect world, someone ask you your favorite team is uses the Yankees. But if your current major league baseball for national network. You don't want to hear the humanism of the play-by-play so people listening at home might say it was sitting on the road in the car right now might say are that's true but that's who they vote for doesn't mean they cover with a bias yellow proves the bias of what you saw on the surface it doesn't mean necessarily up to show your colors. Example after example of bottles.

Brian Ross who you are probably Brian Ross of ABC with the in with the Bush administration. Littlewood, Brian Ross, I believe got suspended and fired it ABC 40 did Trump draft that's correct. My beef with Brian Ross started and when I was a Bush White House when he reported that Saddam Hussein was behind the anthrax attacks wasn't Saddam was not. He had nothing to do with them. I warned ABC exit door air. It's wrong. Saddam had nothing to do with it. Where the Bush ministration that want to wax Saddam. No kidding here telling them Saddam had nothing to do with anthrax.

He aired it anyway and then later you have to quietly retracted is just journalists let it rip. Without caring if it's true. If they have an agenda and that's one of the biggest problems.

Some of the other things I did Brian.

That was so fun. I hired opposition research for the pull the public voter registration records of the White House press Corps today.

The 49 people who sit in the briefing room today under Joe Biden's presidency and they found the ratio of registered Democrats to Republicans is 12 to 1 against the Columbia journalism school, right. Why isn't it 66. Why is it even. What happens if it was 12 to 1 Republicans covering Biden to one Democrat, the press is warped press starts out with an original sin. The people who go into journalism are so cut from the same cloth the same college educated Democratic voter liberal think alike at the like. We like cloth and then they think they represent the breadth and depth of America. No run 48 entities describing being a journalist coming backed up. The premise of your book and run 40 basically says you if you go to Washington egos had, how can you change things if you had a journalist that's really not your job to change things your commentator Bradford if you're covering somebody it's your do expose things by reporting the truth Ron Fournier was the chief White House correspondent for the Associated Press. When I was there.

He later went become the AP bureau chief in Washington and he tweeted the job of a journalist is to move the needle to affect change will who was Neil Bryant and what direction are they moving it left right center know that's not the job of a journalist, a journalist, is it somewhere that I'm not and I would like that journalist.

Please tell me what happened just tell me the news and I'll decide where the needle should go.

That's the job of the American people. It's not the job of the journalists we just need the facts and the truth example.

I think the backs of the premise. By the way Ari Fleischer's book is is now for sale. It is called suppression, deception, snobbery and bias why the press get so much wrong and just as in care and this is actually good for the average person listening to us right now who sits there and engages with some Democrats and others.

They say where's the bias you actually have to you have an example after example given example did you bring up that I forgot about when Gov. Jan Brewer confronts Barack Obama and pointed him they say how disrespectful that is to the presidency of the United States and how dear she was to quorum like that and how inappropriate and you compared to Nancy Pelosi standing over Donald Trump yelling at him and how she was lauded for standing up for women and to do what's right against the mighty male chauvinist president. She pointed her finger at Donald Trump. The picture bent viral and she was praised by the mainstream media.

The New York Times iconic photo Danna Bassett CNN iconic photo. A woman standing up to a man but one as you point out, Gov. Jan Brewer did with her finger on to Trump what Nancy Pelosi did or Jan Brewer. I'm sorry Gov. of Arizona did to Barack Obama. Just as Nancy Pelosi did to Trump.

The press slammed.

Gov. Brewer praised Nancy Pelosi. It's just another day at the office for the mainstream media and it's amazing that it is so close holy selections is amazing right at me. You think if the press really had the power that they think they have.

This would not be a 50-50 Senate and a howitzer how to flip it any Republican field of about 12 really solid men and women that have a strong case to run for president.

If we have for if or if not Donald Trump runs but is why would become such a polarized divided country and I lament that I want to just pick up one piece of news and say I'm done for the day. I've read and I accept what was happening as America's dividing and Republicans, conservatives were winning and we have more media outlets. The tell the story the way we want to hear it than the Democrats do in the way they want to hear it. But if the mainstream media was fair and neutral Bryant Republicans to be winning every way we probably start winning inner cities as people are fed up with crime in their way of life and they should know better than the blame it on the Democratic mayors we got ways to grow as a conservative movement but it started right. We used to be very interesting. Should we have tax cut in which we do in healthcare how dear they have universal healthcare, those with almost healthy good old days. Now, with which a man left woman people are our founding fathers there trying to get at the foundation of everything, it seems ludicrous and I since there's a pushback. I hope in the root of it, and this is in my book is art press biases become cultural is not ideological and by that I mean reporters today are overwhelmingly college-educated Democratic voters in one of the studies I put into my book is the only group of Americans who think the press understands them.

College-educated Democrats people.

The high school degree. Press doesn't understand them independence with college degree or just a high school degree. The part press doesn't understand the Republicans of all stripes pick up his book Ari Fleischer's out about will have them back if you'll have us suppression, deception, snobbery and bias why the press get so much wrong and just doesn't care. Ari, thank you, thank you, Brian Fox news contrasts network subscribe and listen to the trade only federal prosecutor and four term US Congressman from South Carolina brings you a one-of-a-kind punch list now by going on just.com